Windows CEO on How They're Gonna Spy On You
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I GUARANTEE that 'turning it off' doesn't turn it off.
No, but at the end of the day the control is still yours. Take a look at blackbird for windows, for example
Never does, unplug the fucking power supply lmfao
Most cpus have a back door
Modern PCs already have a UEFI operating system running under the main operating system, with no software way to access it or see what it's doing. Even when you turn your PC off, it's still running apps and uploading/downloading data. Check your PC network lights while your PC is off.
Turns itself back on when you do a system update
>Let's make everything worse
Why is this the meta?
Because they can. That's the only reason.
Everything is getting worse because the best source of revenue is no longer from the customers, it's from selling the customer's info. Companies can make ten times the revenue with ten times less customers by using their monopolies to force people to give them a product to sell.
Profit. It's called Enshitification.
Things cant stay the same forever so they change it for the worse just to change it
Power fueled insanity. The Arc of history tells us the truth power is no one's friend and seeks to expend everything like a fire. There are no people in power only powers latest slave
NPU= No Privacy Unit
This is one hell of a sales pitch for Linux
Fr windows is the biggest ad for linux
I just switched to Kubuntu this week. So far every game from steam i have tried works.
Horizon Zero Dawn actually seems faster 🫨
Welp. No time like the present.
If they're gonna spy on me, they're gonna see a lot of shit they don't want to see.
I'm gonna download a bunch of furry shit thishas nothing to do with the video I just felt like saying it
im sure thwy would loved to see it, your information is money.
thats the thing, they want to see it which makes it even weirder.
Let it be lmao
@@RetreatSequelthey re creep enough to spying on you , i bet they re into furry too. it will be ineffective
"Pretend I'm not a computer nerd, what is an npu?" "Well its a nural processing unit matrix math accelerator" i'm glad he can put these complex topics in laymans terms
It's like saying brain but with extra steps.
I'd be lost without him
it is laymans terms, if you actually can't understand what those individual terms mean then you failed 7th grade grammar and English classes. You learn matrix math in pre algerabra classes and don't fking gaslight anyone into thinking matrix math is hard it literally simple multiplication with extra steps. godamn we have to stop letting society get away with being so dumb.
Another problem with this is what is a GPU? It is a matrix math accelerator.... Being a nerd I understand npu is specialized just for neural nets algorithms like Tensor and such while a GPU is more generalized matrix maths these days. Most definitely still tech-speak...
You expect him to explain something he doesn't understand? He's a CEO his entire job is spin for investors not actually knowing what he's talking about.
Eventually the computer will have two legs and kick me out of my house
People are gonna be crying when their AI girlfriend breaks up with them.
Google: Been there, done that
Then let it foreclose then the gov sells it to a company for $5k, then they will charge people $5k a month.
Someone was already remotely locked of thier house under an accusation by a package delivery of them saying something racist. When it was just an automatic doorbell cam greeting they had misheard.
"The dude gave a great answer" Yeah, because the concept of privacy and monetization didn't come up. If we forced him to answer questions like: Who has administrative control over all the data you're generating this way, and, will my data be used to deliver or tailor advertising to me, then we wouldn't like his answers anymore.
Whoever just broke 69 likes, you should be ashamed.
Bingo
It's shocking that in 2024 anyone with half a brain wouldn't realize much of this interview was outlined ahead of time. This is PR for Microsoft and that's the only reason the CEO is even sitting there.
EXACTLY .
@JJFX- Anyone in 2024 who is upset about this but not smartphones isn't thinking straight. 😂
"The cloud" is just someone else's computer.
This probably what they're doing. Using ppls pcs to do their server jobs and save moneys 😂
Yeah, that's why I never use it.
More importantly, the work you're doing on your computer belongs to MS.
The cloud is the A.I in irobot
No it's just a massive server farm in some building.
Literally rows upon rows of servers with high-end specs processing (and probably spying on) your data.
What you're describing is peer-to-peer, which isn't reliable or performant when it comes to the insane amounts of number crunching that AI needs to produce anything good. Every peer has different specs, some better, some worse. And some peers are really far away from you. Some are closer. Their internet speeds are different. And what if you need to use multiple peers to complete some big data processing task the AI needs? How do you ensure each peer stays active? What if one peer shuts down their PC? You would have to re-allocate the task of the failed peer to some other peer, which blocks the whole process until you can establish a connection with that other peer, and possibly have to do the failed task all over again. It's not reliable and really slow in comparison.
So companies use centralized server farms for this kind of thing.
As soon as they start spying on you, its no longer a PC (Personal Computer)
Personnel Computer
As in... CIA Personnel
Publicity Container
Wait it true
Hasn’t been since they started adding back doors that they can remote into your computer to your CPUs.
Privacy ended in 2007. That's how they "obtain" the billions of sets of data pairs to train ML models for AI to exist. The time to fight this has long passed.
Rare moment where he’s not understanding what this means long term.
A dystopian eagle eye that saves snap shots on us even if we aren’t connected online on our PC’s.
So with saved videos and offline and or even doing ai offline it will save it in screenshots and immediately send it once the online comes back on.
I know people are gonna think my take is really idiotic here, and that’s okay.
They wanna watch and know to be able to see everything that’s supposed to be private.
Your take is everything _but_ idiotic. A program designed to send data to someone else can easily be written so it checks if you're connected to the web, it's a simple "if" condition.
That said, this is already the case today. Not specific to this new tech.
I'm too tired to understand the full context here, but the main change is they'll have a very powerful chip running an AI that will watch you constantly.
21:18 searching "ass/b00bs" or "instagram/social network" in worker PC
they have had like 95% desktop share forever now they know they can push all this nonsense and people relly gamers will just take it.
No, your take is 100% on point. We need technerds finding regedits to disable this stuff. Immediately.
It takes screenshots of your pc every 3 seconds and then stores it in their end (the cloud) Asmondgold is skilled in the art of bs Contrarian takes with things that matter.
This looks like one of those "interview" clips they put in the intro of a dystopian series pilot to show when the world really turned to shit
Hahahahahaha
@@elstifo Pointless ...haha... ha...
2000: My computer
2012: This computer
2024 Satya Nadella ceo of microsoft: This is My Computer
Our computer, comrade.
@@christianalanwilson434 Yeah, the famous communist company named "Microsoft". Yeah. exactly.
Your Computer is My Computer
@@christianalanwilson434average unix-like *BSD/GNU Linux enjoyer
2000: My computer
2012: This computer
2024 Satya Nadella ceo of microsoft: This is My Computer
2025 Linux: This your computer say good bye to Windows
Ah, yes, thank you Wall Street Journal, for this carefully constructed Microsoft advertisement.
Totally! LOL.
Apple has had this hardware tech for years now, and now MS are just trying to play catch up.
Bezos and Gates kissing right now fam.
Total native ad
Exactly 💯
@@77drisyou mean snapdragon has had this for two decades 😂 apple 🍎 didn't make ARM . Imagine shillings for a trillion dollar company 😳
As advice to you all, keep your non "AI" pcs in your attic don't sell them in a few years you'll want them back.
I'm fine with whatever hardware they want to sell me, I'm installing Linux on it anyways. Not that I particularly want an NPU, but if it comes with a good GPU that's 50% off, I don't see why not.
@@mage3690 course porteux is my jive.
But I could definitely see the use of non AI, TPM ( future versions ) & pre any bios level AI 😉 and current 8 cores and 32gb of RAM stuffed in a box out the way isn't saying dont buy future products.
Laptop transmitting useless info every 5 seconds
"Why does the power drain so fast?"
Would switching to airplane mode put a stop to that?
America: Let's block Chinese stuff to prevent espionage
Also America: Here's your expensive laptop with built in Ardamax
"They'll steal your data and sell it to brokers, we make sure to bot steal your data" - Some American CEO who's selling you data.
Problem is china was getting our the data for free...
Now they get to sell it to them :)
'iT's FiNe If We dO It'
Do it. You won't regret it. I moved on long ago and haven't regretted it for a single moment.
The entire business model of the web is espionage. Google's worth trillions from simply offering free search to everyone. We never paid them for search, they're selling that info. Microsoft's just years behind google, facebook etc.
In an age of computing with all time high cyberattacks, phishing, scamming and inflation . A more expensive pc architecture that takes screenshots of everything you look at, presumably including banking, is exactly what we needed.
surely nothing could possibly go wrong here...
Hackers don't even need to code anymore, they just infect your pc and hook into the microsoft AI keylogger/screenshotter already on your pc 😂
Couldn't have said / written it better!
It's amazing to see Zack having such a hard time understanding that it's one thing if something like this is done in a black box that nobody except for the user has access too or if it is potentially shared with MS and many others. An no, browser histories shouldn't be uploaded automatically by the browser or system and if a browser or system would do this, they should get banned.
MS has no good track record and we (I'm an IT admin working for the state - not the US) are not allowed to use normal Windows but LTSC with heavily reduced data collection and transfer by and to MS. There is actually a push towards Linux as MS is seen as a problem in this regard.
I really miss the control over what your PC was doing in the MS-DOS days. Nowadays operating systems do lots of crap in the background and it's near impossible to tell what of it is really necessary. Like when the system is idle but the fan starts ramping up because Windows starts the MemoryDiagnostics task.
exept i lost WAY WAY WAY more accounts to the INSANE security protocalls like FORCINg phone number that i KNOW i AM GOING OT LOOSE!
@@NightmareRex6 How are you regularly losing phone numbers?
@@noahthenormal for someone who travels alot and has moved to many countries to live there for a year or two... it's quite common recently I lost access to most of my accounts due to my sim card being deactivated as I haven't been in country X for few years.
"we gave the CIA absolute access to your computer... Wait for it... Through the cloud!!!"
its like we will force bitlocker on eevryone and we all know that has goverment backdoors.
@@gogereaver349 wish we could get those backdoors becuase imagine now if lost media is bneing found just imagine how much will be lost from most peaople not realizing the bitlocker is about to popup and they need to deal with it BEFORE that?
Translation: "we want people to accept the idea of AI copilot being literally everywhere, because that means our investors and shareholders are happy and will keep giving us money"
Oh boy, Linux is looking a lot tastier
yeah, this interview with Nadella confirms my right decision to migrate to Arch Linux completely 😊
@@AnatolySidorovoh, the very user friendly OS that probably needs to sudo apt install something just to shut down your computer 😂
Start with Mint, i use Arch BTW and it's not a beginner option, unless you got a massive IQ to massively be fine while being out of your element.
@@user-ed3yy8gy2lspoken like someone who has never used linux. I'm so tired of this misinformation bs
@@user-ed3yy8gy2l haha, just install newbie oriented arch-based distro like Manjaro or EndeavourOS. I used them previously before i learned how to install Arch from the beginning
The CEO is with the World Economic Forum. This does not surprise me in the slightest
The World Economic Forum is with the United Nations, how come you guys never point that out?
@chronometer9931 it's all the elites, WEF and WHO
@@chronometer9931 The United Nations is on Earth, how come you never point that out? Maybe because it's often better to be specific?
What are you rambling on about?
Well, the interview is by the WSJ = Amazon...
If Microsoft sells a PC with a NPU to billions of people… that amplifies the amount of compute they can use. So the users are their data center.
Coming to a future near you:
You: "Recall, give me that series I was watching on Netflix yesterday."
Recall: "I can't do that, Dave. It's DRM."
We've reached the "actually it _is_ happening and it's a *good* thing" stage.
"Yes we are spying on you and here's why that is a good thing."
Can't wait for "You will own nothing and you will be happy".
It didn't happen.
And if it did, it's not a bad thing.
And if it is, it's not a big deal.
And if it is, it's not my fault.
And if it is, I didn't mean it.
And if I did,
You deserved it.
A narcissit's prayer (although it doesn't apply only to narcissism).
"It *is* happening and you're a fascist if you think it's a bad thing."
I already assumed they were.
yeah keylogger but this is one step above now they will have screenlogger
Noticed this for years. Have a conversation about something without Googling and the ads still start popping up in IG and RUclips.
Early builds of Windows 10 had built-in keyloggers.
There's still a lot of telemetry garbage in Windows 10, but nothing to that degree anymore.
This is WAY worse than anything on the market right now, even worse than what Google does with their phones, and Asmon downplaying it is fucking wild.
I'm fairly certain that this might not even pass European Union privacy protection legislation.
Because they are
yeah at least now, we get some good use out of it as well!
lol, "opt-in"
Sweet summer child.
its on by default. Also the database is unencrypted locally. Also when youre using your pc, its not an encrypted because thats how it works. glad I switched to Linux many years ago.
The issue is not that your search history is recorded, but that your entire screen gets recorded, including the personal images or videos you watch from your personal files. When you drag a JPG photo file of your mother into the browser, the browser may record the file path into your browser history in case you want to look it up again later, but it won't record the actual content of the image. These proposed tools by Microsoft however literally record what's displayed on your screen. And lets not forget other issues, such as screenshots of when you enter your credit card number or screenshots when viewing classified business documents. And I highly doubt that this highly valuable collected data will forever only remain on your personal computer, it wouldn't be the first time that Microsoft silently sends out data unless you explicitly opt-out in a very hidden and deeply nested menu somewhere in the settings.
They can.also screenshot any coding a person does
Easy theft for MS.
And this is not illegal?
1: It never turns off
2: It never stops listening
3: It will be hooked up to "Smart Houses" to punish you for having Free Thought & Free Will, not to mention political ideology.
Your personal accountant for the social credit score.
People are taking it as a joke and is not, I was reading how the "godfather of AI" WANTS equal income/salary at global level.
@@GustavoEBarriga That can only mean American earnings approaching zero.
@@GustavoEBarriga
Equal how?
Equal for who?
Do they REALLY think that "CEOs" are going to work for the same income/salary as the fucking "JANITOR"?
(sorry, "Custodial Engineer")
Do they really believe the "ARCHITECTS" are going to go through college and owe tons of money, just so they can have the same pay as the guy that comes to trim the 5 hedges on the property once a month?
Get back to your pod.
Eat your bugs.
Be happy.
And just a reminder:
You do not OWN the bugs. The term "Your bugs" does not imply ownership. The term "Your bugs" refers strictly to 'your daily allotted amount of bugs' which can be changed, removed, and/or cancelled at any time, at our discretion and without prior notice.
Have¹ a nice day!
¹this also does not imply ownership of your day.
they do things slowly so the majority don't notice
it takes screenshots.
asmon: is not that big of a deal.
screenshots, meaning:
behavior identification, passwords, bank-info, literally 1984.
Is Your password ********* too?
@@elunegracee Don't hit the "eye" icon to show the password to everyone.
You're still giving away password length. That makes it a lot easier to quickly hash the password and break thru at the very least.
@@yegfreethinker Also they already put a keylogger in windows 10, they now just know what websites you were visiting at the time
I work for a large regional insurance company. It feels like our company is trying so hard to use bleeding-edge tech. AI has become such a buzzword you basically just have to drop it in any meeting and people's eyes light up...
Windows 11 is so, so bad, I didn't think it could get any worse... but here we are.
w10 will stop being updated in a little over 1 year. so there's that.
I think the biggest issue with this "Recall" feature is that I can imagine Microsoft will build this functionality into windows to the point where toggling it off doesn't stop the process from occurring, but instead just stops the user from seeing the screenshots taken. Further, this is a massive vector for attackers who will try to write code that can steal these screen shots which potentially hold massive amounts of sensitive/private data. Imagine how many people have a password document etc and would pull it up to view their passwords, that document gets screen-shotted, attackers pull the screen shot and now have access to all your passwords. This is might not be a super common scenario, but it most definitely will happen.
what is the difference between that and hackers writing code to steal other stuff on your computer? like, people have 4 digit passwords on their phones with pictures of their naked bodies or naked bodies of others, their kids, emails, notes and use public networks on stations and stuff, but somehow an encrypted feature is something to be concerned about? I dont get it.
And if you have not heared about password safes for Windows you probably should not use a computer anyway.
@@achgehzu2125 Anything online can be accessed by the developers of the software.
You just made me realize the Recall button is a democratized key logger
@@achgehzu2125 I know it's hard for people like you, but the difference is the scale.
@@achgehzu2125 I remember one of the biggest one of those got hacked too. They create honeypots.
They see that there’s no backlash from the people so they push on.
I wamt more thats cool
Just wait until Win 12 is not what ppl want and everyone start to switch to any of popular Linux distros.
@AngelOfDeathBG would be nice but we have said the same thing for every past release lol.
@@AngelOfDeathBGLinux will never be mainstream, even the beginner distros are complicated compared to Windows in some instances. win12 is gonna be dog shit like 10-11 and everyone is gonna eat it lmao
@@afroize nope. The moment Valve gets Steam deck accepted by major gamedev companies, Linux's popularity will skyrocket. The only upside to Windows is that it can play games better. Using Linux isn't difficult, if my mom can do it, anyone can.
The lack of privacy concern questions in the interview just makes it clear that this has the intent to surveil. If WSJ where not in on it they would have questioned it a lot more
7:36 the idea isn't new, but the implementation is. being able to "recall" anything you've seen on your computer [not just in your browser] and by searching ideas/concepts, not keywords
mac actually has a 3rd party tool that functions a similar way, it's called "rewind ai"
Dude actually looks like a villain
He is.
Is it 'cause he's bald?
😂
"Cover your heart Indy!"
@@JayneAFK ofc
Jeez its literally "my personal FBI agent" meme but IRL 😮
You thought it wasn’t irl already?
@@podglewis nobody said it out loud like that tho
linux here i come
Same. But then they also got me with a dark pattern and passively activated an Xbox Live Ultimate subscription without me noticing and charged me for two years before I found out. Never played a single game using it but of course they just flat out refused to give me a refund. So that combined with Windows getting worse and worse, finally switching fully to Linux was easy.
It is not just Qualcom, Intel Core Ultra and AMD Ryzen 8xxx Series have an additional NPU. New business Notebooks just popping up left and right. With Windows 11 24H2 and an NPU present, that feature is not opt-in, there are group policys for opt-out.
“Without even connecting to the internet” meanwhile I have to connect to the internet to play a single player game or put my damn shoes on.
Xbox: Don't buy our console.
Microsoft: Don't use Windows.
sounds about right.
It's opt-in and user-controlled, until suddenly.... it's not.
I think Microsoft forgot how their own OS works and how incredibly easy it is to break something in it. No matter how much they wrap it up, under the hood it's still a horse, not a race car.
And the Enshitification continues.
imagine you are a programmer/developer that is in direct competition with microsoft products. they now have screenshots of your code, made searchable by AI, and it is held on their computers
Who cares? Not all the fan boys that defend it. Not the goverment because they don't understand how a monopoly like this keeps being or exceeds being a monopoly like this work and are getting bigger.
thats pretty much the amazon business model
what kinda programmer would use Microsoft software willingly xD
@@lorddeus369 Almost everybody and their mama uses visual code ?
@@itsyeaboi5333 nah no need bro, there's like a billion alternatives on discover or snap
Having to need to trust corps in a post high trust society is laughable.
It’s only on Bing also he looks like uncle Ian who stole the chipmunks
Why do many Tech CEOs have this air of insanity around them? This kind of shit was previously only seen in dystopian scifi movies. Their reaction: "Oh thats interesting, lets do it for real".
He is too smart. Too smart.
"When you want to say something mundane, its best to look insane. When you want to say something insane, its best to look mundane."
If they are perceived as business-as-usual types, then almost every viewer will form a negative connotation. If they act like a dystopian Tron parody, most viewers will still form a negative connotation but a significant portion will form the connotation of "the future is crazy, this guy is crazy, this guy must be the future"
Most of them are unironically part of a cult, or at least a cult-like organization.
I thought the same about CGPT4 clearly aiming to be like the AI in "Her". Did they not watch the whole movie? It messed that guy up!
@@rumfordc "when the future looks crazy, people start looking towards crazy people for guidance"
whenever someone starts talking about the cloud i get so f'n annoyed
"Multiverse" is my one
there is no cloud it's just someone else's computer
Cloud and ai makes me roll my eyes.
I always educate boomers I personally know that cloud is just marketing slime language for "someone else's computer".
Old man yells at cloud
This is how they get you to sign up, initially they give you all the control and make it seem like you are making the decisions. As people forget and don't disable the feature, they start taking that control away bit by bit. Soon it won't be opt in or out. It's all or nothing. They do it every time with every privacy.
This Microsoft CEO talks like a Bond Villain when they are posing as good people, it's very cool speech
Plug that firewall boys.
2:00 Also I find it funny how she says "translation for non-computer scientists" when not one thing he's said has actually been an IT term. This is just marketing jargon.
@@ChristopherGray00 RIP to the malware that has no CNC to talk to 😢
@@ChristopherGray00 actually most data are sold from smartphone since the first iPhone, you just don't know it yet.
@@ChristopherGray00Learn how a firewall works lol
@@ChristopherGray00You can start by learning how Opnsense works
@@ChristopherGray00 True it's a workaround, but the actual solution would be the physical removal of the chip the program is on which is beyond the technical scope of the average person. I may be able to do it considering I'm a licensed technician, but the random clerk at the grocery store? Not so much. Ergo, plug the firewall.
From the company that couldnt even fix their own local search function the last 10 yrs....
Windows search is based on Bing right? So no real surprises there
Instant language translation makes students in Hong Kong learning English really bad. Whenever I say something to a student they pull out a phone (secondary schools) and ask me to speak into their translator......
Imagine hooking this up to cameras in your house, you could have an ALT+F find function for when you loose your keys.
As security staff on IT department, the issue is not only about browsing history or cookies, but because it capture screen password can leak from people that uses notepad / excel, sensitive data that opened in excel can be read, and many other thing. Sure it can be turned off, but I don't believe it that much when I opted out in telemetry options in Windows but it still send it anyway.
Imagine thinking you can opt out of anything lol. Unless you literally pie-hole every url connection you don't like. And you can't do that in a corporate environment
I've noticed that many laptops have easily replaceable WiFi modules (to allow upgrades for new WiFi versions and mobile data access, I suppose). I wonder if there are replacement modules with built-in firewall functionality that could be set to block traffic to and from all AI-related addresses 🤔.
Imagine being on an IT department that spies and reads emails and activities of company employees to protect the company, complain about having themselves spied on.
It's more likely you are not what you said you are. Just saying.
Yes, most AI based stuff is a big security hole.
@@TheHighborndoesn't stop apps hard coding in DoH unless you have root cert and HTTPS traffic inspection and blocking the DoH. The companies are getting wise to it. Case in point Amazon FireTV which won't respect your DNS servers unless you block DoT and snat redirect any dns query to a specific server. Well, at least that's what I had to do.
What? This is more than a cookie. This is your notes, your side chats. This is the text messages that Microsoft Link can now allow you to do. This is your email content.
One large company with this enabled has its accounts compromised and literally everything including the passwords some people save to their own text files or use for programming can be compromised at that point as a single point of failure when before there were multiple points.
Be real about this.
Yeah Asmon miss the points sometimes
Am I really supposed to be sympathetic to people who store their passwords as open text? They are practically giving a middle finger to the concept of cyber security
@@noahthenormalyou have to open the file at some point 📸
@@richman2601 he dooesnt. The pics dont leave your PC, its on edge.
@@noahthenormal Please don't be naive. When you program, your source code can be leaked and compromised with a screenshot. You also have to type your passwords in places in plain text, which can be leaked with a screenshot. When trying to reset a password or create a new user you "KNOW" you put your password in correctly so you click the "eyeball" THAT can be compromised with a screenshot. We are not talking about saving an encrypted file. We are talking about reading that file.
The screenshot can reveal your search history that so many streamers have already been called out for.
This isn't about where you have been on the internet. This is about the videos you pirated, which they now have proof you are watching. This is the intimate message you sent to your lady that only you and them are supposed to see. Now, when your Microsoft email gets compromised, they have your whole computer history.
You might be an outlier regarding computer security, but we are talking about the people who still have to be told not to click the link that some random person sends you on Facebook.
We still have to have that cyber security training every year. Turbo Tax and Google track it. If it wasn't an issue, then that stuff wouldn't be useful. That's why there's SSO and 2FA, and we still have people who are compromised.
Again please be real about this.
if you are going to turn off recall.. what was the point in buying it again?
I haven't regretted switching to linux OS, ever.
google is master of not showing things people want to search
"Pretend Im not a computer nerd" we don't need to pretend
6:43 You know damn well this isn't going to be opt in. It's going to be opt out via a setting buried somewhere 12 layers into your settings and named something like "happy feel good memories" to make it harder for you to find the right setting.
Smiling at the amount of people switching to linux in this comment section, here comes the OS revolution
If you type a confidential email or password, you do not want it screenshotted. Same if you process ugly out of focus pictures of yourself. Also, when Nadela says that you can "trust it" you immediately know that you definitely should not.
Anybody asking for trust doesn't deserve it. No sane or on-the-level person asks for or assumes it, because it must be earned. By the time its appropriate for you to have it, you won't have to ask.
I'm a central IT admin for a 100k+ seat government organisation with strict confidentiality requirements.
Cloud/AI/Microsoft removing management options from organisations is positively poisonous for such an organisation... When the service goes down, an entire org goes up on blocks. When the AI chooses to leak confidential data? How about we've upgraded our core internet link from 10 gig to 15 gig in the last 18 months and everytime we bump up the speed, Microsoft related services chew up the new bandwidth and we run straight in to the limit issues we've had previously...
Or how about IT staff getting AI to write scripts that they don't understand to "do work" internally??
But yeah, the important part is a quiet fan and "better" search. No one really care about privacy any more personally (your phone is basically a big funnel sending your private data to dozens of agents), but corporately, it is still a vital thing.
@@saviourself687 Since you are an IT with experience, I.. well, studied IT before so I have a minor idea about this BUT can you say that a Key Logger is very much the same with this new AI thing?
I tried a keylogger once (for fun, just to know how it works), and it basically screen shot what I am doing with my computer every few seconds including the facebook passwords, which are not hidden in asterisk, and sent it to my email. Doesn't that sounds very much the same as this AI recording everything you do?
@@konaqua122Key loggers don't take screenshots, they records keystrokes entered to the keyboard. What you're describing is similar in results if not function. Key loggers are effective because they use very little bandwidth on your network to send anything you type directly to whoever has put the malware on your PC, whereas sending screenshots chews up considerably more bandwidth and therefore increases the chances of being caught.
In this case, the built in AI would be processing the images locally to enhance it's internal heuristics. I'd be curious to know whether that means every OS has a quasi AI of different levels (ie. you never turn your PC on ergo your AI is a retard) or if all the results are pooled and Copilot is buffed by updates... = \
What MS is doing could be secured so that it never leaves your computer (by them) but in all likelyhood, it will be datamined locally by your OS and any relevant data uploaded to MS. Remember, if something is free then you are the product.
As I said previously, for most private users this isn't an issue, they hand over data left/right/center (Epic, Steam, browsers, phones, OS etc etc).
Here’s the problem: If the hardware can do it, opt in/out is meaningless because the government will find a way to justify turning it on through a backdoor.
Just stop using the internet then
The hardware has always been able to do this. Software was the limiting factor. This just added that so... Also they say it is locked to edge only. Um, edge is chrome isnt it? They could simply copy key strokes and duplicate it in the backend. No one would be the wiser. They could even store it on a server.
@@illyaeaterooo so big brain of you
Exactly
@@ricky4673 incorrect this does not only screenshot Microsoft edge it screenshots everything when he says edge he is talking about edge computing aka the AI processing happens locally what they do with the data after that is anyone's guess tho
so this works only with that ai chip in your pc or just with the system?
Nailed it on AI filtering being the block on trust.
"Opt In" only works when you have the option to "Opt Out" Else it's called "Forced"
"Guys, remember the Kinect? Yes let's do that more."
The kinect was fun.... and justva mocap camera
@@gamerboiiiiiii that shit was spying on you and mapping your home and selling your voice data and photos of you playing in your boxers
Xbox people dont let shit slide, Windows Pc people dont give a shit. The prof is gaming less annoy on a Xbox DRM wise then a Windoes PC. I game on PC but on Linux.
@@gamerboiiiiiii
Anyone who owns a console is already on serious copium.
And Windows RT
Every university, company or state with research worth a damn will never allow anything like this. On a personal level imagine health issues, on a company level imagine strategies, offers or confidential information not to mention databases with customer data and then the military level, every subcontractor to the military or anyone who signs an NDA. Now any of these people talk, write or google anything and you can piece it all together? This will be the greatest data breach in history waiting to happen. Equifax waiting to happen times a million...
"Press P?" holds breath
Why do these tech CEOs always sound like cult leaders
They must. Profits are in direct correlation with brand loyalty. The less people think and the more than buy, the better. Time to form a cult...
Scary for sure.
because they are now a cult of matriz, if they don't make the impossible, there no value in their life anymore
Pretty damn sure a lot of them are in a cult together
Ok. F this, time to learn Linux
It's actually really easy now epically if you chose an os like mint, pop os, Ubuntu, zorin, these operating systems are really easy to lean moving from windows
Good luck. You'll needevery minute of the year and a half to learn how to use it effectively if you don't have prior experience and aren't willing to drop everything for days to learn how to fix minor issues.
@@escthedark3709 you're the perfect example of someone who's never used any Linux os, or you went straight to using arch and broke your system, not every Linux operating system is arch or complex, my parents in there 60s can use mint no issues, people like you have no idea.
@@michealrosen I've used Ubuntu, Mint, and Arch, and none are viable alternatives for Windows for me. I'm happy for your parents in their 60s for not having any issues with Linux, however that is utterly irrelevant because I'm not your parents in their 60s and neither is the original commenter.
The Linux community is a tiny little bubble where "it works for me" or "it works for someone else" is a valid excuse for poor design decisions and a lack of consistency in interface design. Linux working well for someone is the exception rather than the rule, and Linux will never become a meaningful competitor to Windows and Mac unless the Linux community can come to understand why people choose to use Windows and Mac instead of pretending that any and all issues people have with Linux are invalid.
Linux is first and foremost an enthusiast and hobbyist OS. Exceptions exist, but exceptions are both expected for any rule and irrelevant to the average user. Windows and Mac are first and foremost an OS meant for regular people. The desktop OS numbers reflect this fact, and no amount of Linux copium can meaningfully expand the little Linux bubble.
@@escthedark3709 yeah that's why Linux market share is growing and proton gaming and steam deck is successful, I know you're just a windows fanboy who knows nothing on Linux, I bet you have no idea about how many companies currently use Linux servers, you're living 5 years in the passed.
"It can interrupt you"
At least I won't feel lonely anymore if the feds are gonna be watching me looking at cute kittens or sth 💀
The devastating betrayal that MS paint must feel now after helping him thousands of times illustrate his points and arguments on the fly
I would pay allot to have windows 7 back... with no bullshit. When steam nails linux... Windows is gone.
Valve has basically nailed Steam on Linux already, most stuff runs great already but imagine if game devs actually tried for official support too.
Except everything else is shit for 99% of pc users. Software that isn't available unless you add another repository and crap like that. I tried to like linux but without heavy computer knowledge it's unusable.@@Voyajer.
@@enricod.7198 How has it come to this. A customer must increase their computer knowledge significantly or just be a free data point for the operating system. To have any semblance of privacy and control someone has to either risk using Windows 7, heavily moderate and keep disabling things on the current systems, learn how to use Linux, or just accept defeat.
Yeah. Everything ain’t better, just bigger.
@@Voyajer.Very true every single player game on steam I can run on Linux, problem is still multiplayer games
its hard to watch someone who is so confidently wrong about most things
Its build around trust proceeds to show the most untrustfull face ever
Once again, my switch to Linux 7 years ago has been vindicated.
I've been using Linux for 3 years, every new release of windows lets us know it's not worth looking back lol
I've been saying that the day Windows 10 is End Of Life, i'm a pure Linux user.
... Well, this is fucking why.
You're not alone.
@@trajectoryunown I know. I also know that Linux needs more market saturation.
I might be in favor of PC manufacturers being forced to ship Laptops with an easy installer for any of the largest operating systems; The latest build of Windows and the latest build of Linux. There's an effective monoopoly on consumer devices, and the fact that this is just allowed to happen is wild to me.
Anything that limits user choice should not be allowed to get to this level of proliferation.
I bought a cheap laptop that came preinstalled with bloatware and windows 11 and it could barely open edge or internet explorer fresh out the box, I wiped the W11 and installed a minimal linux OS and its been amazing.
At this point the only reason I haven't switched to linux on my gamimg pc is because windows is convenient. I could educate myself on the best OS for me, but everything mostly works on windows without an issue. I'm getting very close to biting the bullet.
switched to linux 2 years ago for this reason
@@RecklessCV it has been super easy for the past two years for gaming on linux or most normal things, someone else would've tried before you so they ask for help and the answer is right there
From a software dev POV, I wonder if, like using the GPU to draw things on screen, you can code the NPU to generate text and other things. So things like games could use it to make enemies incredibly smart, and NPC give lifelike responses during dialogues, like reacting to your armor etc.
"Well st least it runs on the device and nothing leaves the device.."
The forced "security update" in question:
As a developer for 25+ years, long time user of Windows since 1.0, I've permanently moved to Arch Linux month ago and never looking back
based ARCHeologist
How do you find yourself starting over from zero in completely new OS? Or did you had contact with linux before?
@@sznikersIt's not really starting from zero nowadays. Lots of great software to get things done the same as on windows. Comparability layers for games and there is a lot that's really similar in terms of how things work. Sometimes I forget I'm even working on Linux
@@chronometer9931 i heard it mamy times but unfortunately it usually was not true.
Last time i tried was few years ago and it was not great. Like for example firewall had bunch of preexisting profiles for some dumb games i will never touch but lacked basic functionality like quick add/edit inbound/outbound rules for new app.
I am willing to move but im not willing to downgrade, tech is supposed to move forward.
What's the state of it in 2024?
@@sznikers I've used Linux on and off through the 90s with Red Hat 4.x. So i've had had some past experiences. I've distro hopped trying all sorts of flavors including FreeBSD. I do enjoy the power of the terminal especially more so now how they have evolved with Intellisense, sure i could use Powershell for Windows but the ASMI security issue that still exists.
Windows is now implementing Linux features such as sudo, I mean at that point all together I just rather use Linux and skip the Windows problems
Sucks to me that I wasn't born a Linux user
You can always learn mate . Ever since I got my steam deck I've been learning more about it than I ever did windows.
you can convert !
Never too late to switch.
I'd be happy to give some advice if you or anybody else is interested.
Unless you absolutely need some locked down software like stuff from Adobe or the handful of games that use intrusive anti-cheat, Linux is a perfectly viable option.
But it's a whole different ecosystem, so there's a little bit to learn. Having someone to share their experiences can save you a lot of time and trouble.
linux is so dog shit. i dont wanna have to learn 105 things just so my OS doesnt have bug
@@trajectoryunown Is it possible to play video-games on Linux yet?
Almost none of my games in Steam worked on Ubuntu last I tried.
@7:30 what is new is the ability to look at HOW you do everything and then copy it, train models on it, and replace everything you do.
The real problem is security, if a hacker breaks into your PC he'll essentially will have not just the data on your drives, but also essentially a straight up superpowered keylogger in the form of these snapshots
There are no honorable computers since around 2008, management engine bypasses everything on a hardware level. This is smoke and mirrors
things have been completely compromised at a hardware level for longer than that but yes
I think he's talking about the Intel management thing. A hardware backdoor by all intents and purposes.
Yes there are. Librem by Purism have the Intel ME disabled.
@@thisisobviouslybaittrue, but computers pre-2010 were honestly easy af to disable features you don’t want. Much more difficult to bypass anything now.
Pentium 3 was the first cpu with built in back door. And that was not found until many years later
"You can trust it's in you computer." If a closed source software maker says so.
They cant even get their default file searcher to work properly.
Recall is going to be processed on your own PC, the info is not going to be shared or stored in a Microsoft Server. If you are afraid of Recall and Microsoft bad intentions, might as well be afraid of Windows. They don't need recall to steal that info from you if they want to. Sure, it's still a liability if someone gets access to your PC, but if you don't want it you can just turn it off of even personalize it to just register on selected apps.
Savestates aren't sent back to MS for data collection. It's taking screenshots of everything you do, so user names, passwords, banking details might be captured and then sent to a third party. Private images stored locally are suddenly being sent to a mega corp. A lot of personal data you don't even consider might be captured and you not even realize it. Cookies and browsing data is largely anonymous and it's more tying your presence to places on the web, it can't capture passwords, screenshots of your files, etc.
It's very different because these are snapshots of everything you touch on your PC.
No it isn't anonymous. Everything gets aggregated from your Amazon purchase addresses and CC info, to your real name to your entire browsing history.
@@CubeInspector I said largely, as in a lot of the actual data is screen positioning, sizing, mouse tracking, etc. Yes, that data is itself used to aggregate it into the identity they have for you, but to look at the raw data without say a google account to tie it to, is completely anonymous. You have a shocking amount of data collected that doesn't have a name attached to it at all. It's still linked to you, but it never is actually linked to a name. It's like a shadow profile that is both you, and not you at the same time. the closest you can get is linking it to an IP address.
When you create accounts, like amazon, then yes, Amazon will link that data they may have purchased or collected themselves to you, but if you never create an account, then the data is actually quite anonymous as it's just "A person" (IP address, etc) Vs. "Cryptid Lord's Data".
If you never created an account somewhere, never put your personal info into a field, it'd be completely anonymous, thats why companies like MS, Amazon, Google, etc are so insidious, that use their services as a vehicle to de-anonymize the data they have collected, like putting together pieces of a puzzle, except the puzzle is your entire online life.
Hackers and malware will have so much fun with those automatic screenshots. Malware's work is already being half done by windows itself now
Isn't this just Project Insight from Captain America: Winter Soldier? when did they become real life Hydra?
When "telemetry" was built into Windows. This "feature" which no cosumer wants has been silently and gradually added to Windows over many years.
Fuck Microsoft has always been hydra
I stay on Win 10 as long as I can, then I switch to Linux
There is a vast difference between recall and restore points. Restore points are only backing up system critical files and settings. While recall is taking a screen shot of what is on the screen, this could include anything from passwords for banking and financial information that you might be logged into and looking at, social security numbers, ECT. It's like having someone constantly looking over your shoulder who has no vested interest in protecting you or your interests. It will also probably be a high value target for any malicious anti security focused entity on the internet.
People's computer is their "safe" place. Its the most private place their is for a lot of people.
Which is pathetic if you consider it can be accessed by the people who made it, not to mention anyone on the Internet.
@@gabrielboorom2683 Are you going to be saying that when you get the neural link chip inserted in your brain?
@@gabrielboorom2683 Have you tried to crack a SHA2 hash, brute force a Wifi password with a rainbow table or even something simple as accessing your neighbours printer yourself? This statement is just not true. Maybe for people with zero knowledge in cybersecurity that don't use passwords at all. But even a basic WPA2 encryption is borderline impossible to crack if your password isn't "Hello1234".
@@chronometer9931 probably not if they're under mind control. why are you asking them that in the first place? their answer should be obvious if you understood their original comment.
So in a nutshell MS will be leeching off of your electricity and your paid-for hardware to service other "customers".
No it never said anything like that lol
@@chronometer9931Its exactly what is happening though.
You know. I have been in the process of switching over to linux entirely. Thus just speeds up the process.
I can go to a website and get copilot or any other A.I.
What's the value of this? I'm lost.
They are outsourcing A.I compute to the PC rather than to paying their servers to run it.
I have the privilege of losing my privacy AND paying for an A.I data server, that they should be providing.
NAH.
Go away Microsoft.