On it's face, if you were just seeing this game for the first time, you wouldn't believe that you'd like it. I mean attacking with category menus for stuff you don't even understand what it is. But this game ended up being one of the most fun games I ever played in my life. Took me 120 hours to beat it.
ah very clever. I was too young to understand phoenix down back then. just thought it brought you back to life and that was it. This reminds me that i think there is a similar situation in Final Fantasy 9 where you fight a Tree or something and you cast life and it would do big damage instead of fighting it normally as the Tree would cast mustard or something and characters inflicted would randomly die during the fight regardless how much HP they had. I may have remembered wrong. it was many years ago. There was another situation in Final Fantasy 10 where you fight something underwater which was undead and you could use phoenix downs on it to do major damage as it would not kill it in one go like here in the video.
Yes, I think this trick made the rounds back when ff7 first came out, and so Square nerfed it a little in subsequent games knowing players would try the same trick again. And yes, the Lifa Tree in ff9 had a similar trick 😁 I believe people found it ironic since it was called the Lifa Tree.
@@Vilis_Farthuk yes! That was it! The Lifa Tree. I am puzzled as I wasnt aware it was undead since it was a Tree. perhaps i didnt pay attention to the detail of the story regarding the trees in that game at the time.
This guy ended up being a game ender for me on my very first playthrough. Beat him on the second playthrough after leveling my party better, but never knew he could be killed with a phoenix down.
i wasted the x-potion i found in that cave, actually curious what it can do, and was so surprised LOL. i thought x-potions give instakill - man i was so wrong after this battle xD
I remember I had a horrible time trying to beat him the first time clean.Than by my 2nd playthrough I figured out the phoenix down trick an cheesed him everytime after😆
Yup same on the first play through one of the toughest boss fights by this point in the game. Of course he was easy the second play through and after bc of all the grinding I did from the beginning, but I still cheesed him when he was close to death anyway lol
Oh yeah, it's common Final Fantasy feature throughout its history. I'm pretty sure the ghosts in the Train Graveyard of FF7 Remake can be similarly dispatched.
I remember when I first played this i knew cures would hurt it. (Dont remember how i knew that at the time) But it was right after i beat it a friend told me a Phoenix down kills it.
Tbh i never even thought of using a pheonix down. I guess it makes sense that the item that revives would kill an undead. I'll use this on my next playthroug. im doing atm, but it's a new threat mod so i have no idea what this boss will be like.
@@nexelray3207 Phoenix downs can miss too. X-potion is best because it does fixed maxHP cure damage instead of trying to inflict recovery/death, and so never missed.
Yeah, they sort of homage it in Rebirth because healing items will damage the Gi if you use them on them, but not as much the insta-kill like in the original.
It would be to early in the game to try Summoning Phoenix, but I think Phoenix only targets allies with the Life ability, so it likely wouldn't have this effect.
That was really nice of the person playing this to rename Red XIII his real name.
Absolutely!
Once you know, you gotta, y'know?
Except that once you do that, some dialogues do not make sense any more
@@jimmoriarty9906 it's not like the game itself was hard to understand due to the weird translation
@@jimmoriarty9906
"Who's Nanaki?"
"Nanaki's Nanaki. It's his name."
The beauty of this game - 20 yrs later and it still manages to surprise.
every ff game has undead creatures take damage from cure,life, and phoenix downs this isn’t a surprise.
??????
On it's face, if you were just seeing this game for the first time, you wouldn't believe that you'd like it. I mean attacking with category menus for stuff you don't even understand what it is. But this game ended up being one of the most fun games I ever played in my life. Took me 120 hours to beat it.
When in doubt or trouble with powerful undead,
use the magic feather.
*"DOOOUAAGH, HOW CAN A FEATHER BE THIS **_P A I N F U L ? ! ? !_** "*
-Gi Nattak
Tickled to Death 😆😆😆
Barret and Red XIII: AVALANCHE TIME MOTHER@#$% !!!! 😎
"AVALANCHE TIME MOTHER F*CKA!!!"
ah very clever. I was too young to understand phoenix down back then. just thought it brought you back to life and that was it. This reminds me that i think there is a similar situation in Final Fantasy 9 where you fight a Tree or something and you cast life and it would do big damage instead of fighting it normally as the Tree would cast mustard or something and characters inflicted would randomly die during the fight regardless how much HP they had. I may have remembered wrong. it was many years ago.
There was another situation in Final Fantasy 10 where you fight something underwater which was undead and you could use phoenix downs on it to do major damage as it would not kill it in one go like here in the video.
Yes, I think this trick made the rounds back when ff7 first came out, and so Square nerfed it a little in subsequent games knowing players would try the same trick again. And yes, the Lifa Tree in ff9 had a similar trick 😁 I believe people found it ironic since it was called the Lifa Tree.
@@Vilis_Farthuk yes! That was it! The Lifa Tree. I am puzzled as I wasnt aware it was undead since it was a Tree. perhaps i didnt pay attention to the detail of the story regarding the trees in that game at the time.
@@VTKC I was also surprised. I think there was a subtle note of it being corrupted or something, but it has been like 10 years since I last played it.
@@Vilis_Farthuk It is called Iifa Tree with an "I", not Lifa. And pronounced Eefa, similarly to original Japanese イーファの樹.
Want a real challenge try beating it after setting that said tree on fire. Completely changes the entire boss fight. Lol.
"I am Nanaki, otherwise known as Nanaki"
It's always Hilarious 😂
I did this.
When I was young, this boss was one of the hardest to me :P
Yup, this and the materiakeeper were damn hard fuxkers
@@taxo Right?!
Right?!
Same, he beat my ass the first time so Ieveled up like crazy before fighting him again.
When all you need is a phoenix down.
This guy ended up being a game ender for me on my very first playthrough. Beat him on the second playthrough after leveling my party better, but never knew he could be killed with a phoenix down.
That also works with an X potion.
i wasted the x-potion i found in that cave, actually curious what it can do, and was so surprised LOL.
i thought x-potions give instakill - man i was so wrong after this battle xD
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I did the same thing back in '97 ":D
I remember I had a horrible time trying to beat him the first time clean.Than by my 2nd playthrough I figured out the phoenix down trick an cheesed him everytime after😆
Yeah, it's just too easy to not do 😆
Yup same on the first play through one of the toughest boss fights by this point in the game. Of course he was easy the second play through and after bc of all the grinding I did from the beginning, but I still cheesed him when he was close to death anyway lol
God I did this when I was on my 5th Playthrough
That miss was very anticlimatic xD
Lol, y'know, gotta keep it real.
xD
FF6 had quite a few enemies you could destroy with life or phoenix down, at least in the SNES/SuperFamicom version.
Oh yeah, it's common Final Fantasy feature throughout its history. I'm pretty sure the ghosts in the Train Graveyard of FF7 Remake can be similarly dispatched.
Toppling Doom Train with Phoenix Down in Final Fantasy VI is pretty much a done deal. One and done. 😁👍 🏳💀
Wow I never knew that 😳 all of this time
Dam I didn't even know that!!! It's time to replay this game
Replay at least once every 7 years 😁
I remember when I first played this i knew cures would hurt it. (Dont remember how i knew that at the time)
But it was right after i beat it a friend told me a Phoenix down kills it.
every time i get to this boss i always just throw the x-potion u get before the fight.
A solid alternative. I just find X-potions more useful than Phoenix Downs.
Also I like the fairly rare "Death" text which pops up.
Tbh i never even thought of using a pheonix down. I guess it makes sense that the item that revives would kill an undead. I'll use this on my next playthroug. im doing atm, but it's a new threat mod so i have no idea what this boss will be like.
i had no idea this was possible
Yeah, cure and life spells harming the undead used to be a pretty common trope in JRPGs, so my brothers and I figured it out back in the day.
It was in 6 too.
You cast Life, Phantom Train is die.
Wait TFS wasn't making it up?!?
Lol, nope. FF7 Abridged is actually remarkably accurate if you read between the lines.
James Closs dang!
Even still...
AVALANCHE TIME MOTHERF**KERS!!!
Ah, yes, UNDEAD enemies
My favorite are the ones Weak to Holy. Then find out the only materia that does Holy Damage is the Alexander Summon 😅
you mean walkers right?
Dunno, man, I was basically gunsblazing bosses including Sephiroth with Bahamut summons.
I remember using white wind and that one shot ko’d this boss.
Wait, you can use a Phoenix Down? I've been using Elixirs on this boss. What a waste! Oh well
Yup, Phoenix Down has a chance of missing though. X-Potion is also a sure fire kill.
@@Vilis_Farthuk Particularly as you get one in the cavern leading to the boss
Final Fantasy 7 Machinabridged doesn’t lie! It actually works!
Phoenix down?! I wasted x potions on this guy!
Don't worry, you aren't alone. I think that's like half the comments 😆
*DEATH*
Why did Life miss but Phoenix Down worked?
BJ Peter DeLaCruz If items had a chance to miss, then they would not be as useful to the party.
@@nexelray3207 Phoenix downs can miss too. X-potion is best because it does fixed maxHP cure damage instead of trying to inflict recovery/death, and so never missed.
Never even knew this to be a thing. 😮😂
Yeah, they sort of homage it in Rebirth because healing items will damage the Gi if you use them on them, but not as much the insta-kill like in the original.
I tried to do the Pheonix Down strat... it wouldn't work for some reason....
Were you playing Rebirth by any chance? Lol
@@Fl0wchart Does rebirth have the cheat codes in it?
x-potion works too. same thing, insta win 8)
I was sad this didn't work in rebirth lol
OMG!! The day I found this out, I purposely grinded just to beat the shit out of this boss!! Ooo made me so mad! Loo
Was the enemy dead with summoning phoenix?
It would be to early in the game to try Summoning Phoenix, but I think Phoenix only targets allies with the Life ability, so it likely wouldn't have this effect.
I suppose, it is undead
Or Phoenix Down. 1 Phoenix Down and bam dead boss.
That... is the title of the video, yup 😅
@@Vilis_Farthuk I’m so high I didn’t even read the word “Down”
I did that as well despite having around 2500 to 3000 HP against it.
Wtf
AJ_Hwd49 Yeah, it's sort of a secret across older Final Fantasy games than cure damages undead, and life causes death.