Japan plane crash: What happened?
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- Опубликовано: 1 янв 2024
- A Japan Airlines aircraft carrying 379 passengers caught fire on the runway at Tokyo's Haneda airport after a collision with a coastguard plane.
Investigators will be trying to find out what went wrong that could result in such a calamitous accident.
Sky's Emma Birchley assesses what we know so far.
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That is amazing that all 379 passengers and crew got out alive.
But so sad the rescue workers heading to aide in earthquake relief efforts on the other plane perished. They still died heroes answering the call.
Yeah, It could have ended a whole lot worse. But they had some good trained people. There are credit to their company and their country.
It also helped that the passenger aircraft was landing, carrying fewer fuel from its flight.
Probably the Airbus was landing after a long distance travel so most of its fuel had been used up.
A350 is one of the newest most advanced aircraft out there its so heartbreaking that its involved in this accident and I share my condolences to all involved
@@liangxu._. literally just said from the news its from Sapporo, a local flight
The evacuation of the plane and relatively low injuries are a testament to the training and professionalism of the crew.
and passengers.
And the accident shows how bad the Japanese handles these types of takeoffs and landings with different planes. This could have been avoided if the Traffic Controllers were more alert and the Small plane had a transponder. Very unprofessional
@@robocop581 but if that happened in the USA or Canada, about 25% of the passengers would have held up everyone while they tried to get their carry on bags out of the overhead bins. So there's that... Just sayin'.
@@robocop581 -- The "small" plane did most likely have a transponder, just not an ADS-B one... Reports say that the airliner had been cleared to land... That means that either the pilot of the smaller aircraft screwed up or the controller screwed up... Oh, and BTW, that "small" plane is not *that* small... It's used by some commuter airlines for passenger service...
I'd say a plane full of westerners would be trampling and fighting each other to get off and trying to grab their iPad in the hand luggage....the behaviour of passengers is probably more important than how professional and well trained the crew are!
crazy incident, thankfully I've got more chance to win the lottery, I fly a lot! 🫣
The saddest part of this tragedy is that the smaller coast guard plane whose 5 crew members passed away was on its way to aid the earthquake victims
Man Japanese people are on another level. The urgency in which all of those people abandoned that plane... nobody looked back to ask for their bags.. everyone did what they were supposed to do and left the plane inmediately. Kudos to the ones who survived and my deepest condolences to those in the Dash 8 that sadly perished.
Great job by flight crew getting everyone off safely. Prayers for earthquake recovery crew. Amazing & sad
and the passengers themselves. sounds like they didn't f around getting bags and stuff, just got straight off.
@@TheSateef despite the flak Japan gets, their people are some of the most discilpined in the world.
This is so sad to happen in any time but at the same day the earthquake hit was a double tragedy ,blessings to the relatives of the ones who didn’t survive .
It's all a mere coincidence.
Rip those people who died in the plane god bless their families. Real heros
It was 5 ppl on the small plane
They're not heroes they just died in a plane. They helped no one
Stop bringing stupid your god. It doesnt exist. Never existed and never will be.
@@scholaroftheworldalternatehist Nice assumption.
key fact missing they were helping earthquake victims cuh@@scholaroftheworldalternatehist
I personally believe that had this been any other nationality carrier, there wouldn’t have been so many lives saved. It’s a testament to both Japanese culture and superior crew training that they were able to evacuate that huge airliner in so short a space of time with zero lives lost. Of course, the saddest part is that only two days into a new year, five people are dead who were embarking on a mission to help others in distress.
Maybe in a country with "superior crew training" they wouldn't have crashed into a parked plane in the first place
The crew did nothing wrong, they were cleared to land and they couldn't see the dash 8 in time which probably didn't have it's lights on, the dash 8 crew entered the runway without permission, the JAL crew isn't at fault @@roflmatol
@@roflmatol The A350 flight was given clearance to land. For whatever reason, as I’m sure we are bound to discover, the Bombardier had entered onto the live runway. The A350 was configured to land, meaning is nose was raised and it’s tail lowered, making ground visibility even more limited, hence the reliance on the ATC. Playing a blame game at this stage does no one any good. My point was and remains that the culture of the Japanese tends to be calm, diligent and orderly and this has proven to have been beneficial in this instance. There are many cultures around the world where the “me first” attitude prevails and as such, an identical accident in another part of the world may not have had such a positive outcome. I say this a person from the UK, who has great reverence for Japan, it’s people and their culture. It is my subjective personal opinion.
@@thwales2520 I think someone else mentioned here, there where 12 Australians onboard too. What everyone is forgetting, is Tokyo's Haneda is a very busy international airport, just like London's Heathrow. Toronto's Pearson. Sydney's Kingsford Smith. and Chicago's O Hare. Meaning there going to be also a lot of passengers from other countries and cultures coming and going. So it kind of hard to justify, rather it's the Japanese culture way why everyone got off safely, or just luck being on their side in that case. And has for who fault the crash was. More then likely it was human error between the dash 8 and ATC. Maybe the coast guard pilots got distracted, and entered the runway by mistake. We had an incident here in the US not too long ago in the early 2000's. Where distracted crew, taxied onto the wrong runway, that was meant for smaller private aircraft and crashed. Because it was too short.
Incorrect. They're fortunate that fewer people died because of Airbus' engineering not failing them for one. The JAL crew are idiots for not initiating a go-around and for listening to the idiots at Haneda ATC.
My heart goes out to the people in your country.
Please be safe and God bless 😢
Somehow I'm praying for the mental health of the person/people responsible for this, as I categorise it, accident (naturally for the injured pilot too). Accidents can happen but it must be hard to move on from one of your actions unintentionally having caused the deaths of others, even ones on their way to help people in need.
Either the pilot of the smaller plane, or the ground control, made some kind of error. We'll find out someday.
Apparently the pilot of the smaller plane was at fault. They werent meant to be there. Maybe they were in a hurry to bring aid.
@@seraby7151 It is reported that the Coastguard pilot disobeyed the Controller and strayed onto the runway. If true, that is professional negligence, with fatal consequences. That pilot could be in a lot of trouble and a new A350 will cost someone $400 million.
My heart goes to the people of Japan.
"I have always had an issue with the rather obedient culture in Japan, where people tend to avoid confronting or criticizing the authority. However, this culture seems to have played a significant role in saving the passengers' lives. Unlike passengers from many other countries, they did not block the aisle to retrieve their carry-on luggage. They must have followed the crew's instructions perfectly."
Japan is not the only country that does this
Incorrect. The culture is what led to the crash in the first place.
@@DR3ADER1 My friend, I did not talk about what caused the crash. Nor did I glorify the Japanese obedient culture. Please read my comment again. I was just explaining a probable reason why the passengers could evacuate smoothly based on some evidence (the video and the Japanese culture).
yeah but the flight did compose of a decent amount of international passengers.
@@sina6457 basically it wasn’t full of American passengers. Japan culture had nothing to do with it. It was just normal people lol
How dreadful 😢. RIP to the people who perished.
My heart goes to the people of Japan 🇯🇵🇮🇳
imagine how the pilot of the smaller coast guard plane is going to feel now, just dont know when your time is up, RIP
Props to airbus for builidng an aircraft that could take that hit and allow the plane to remain as a single structure whilst everyone evacuated. Other older aircraft have collapsed under similar incidents.
несмотря на вашу западную пропагандистскую ложь, ТУ 104 был техническим чудом, а пилоты - настоящими героями.
@@wobblybobengland English translation in case anyone is wondering: "despite your Western propaganda lies, TU 104 was a technical miracle, and the pilots were real heroes."
@@wobblybobenglandWhat on earth do TU 104 issues have to do with this crash? Plenty of western aircraft have fallen part in similar situations.
@@rhyangriffiths5398 Hey, we love our Western lies!
BS. Many American airliners are been built to stand very rough runways and flying conditions. DC3s, DC4's, DEC 6-7's, DC9's. Boeing's most of them 10 kinds. C130 the workhorse of most militaries in the world since 1956.. LOL.. C141 and C17 and many more. How many European built airliners are flying for over 50 years from non paved runways? The answer is.. ZERO AGAINTS ABOUT 7 KINDS OF AMERICAN AND 4 KINDS OF SOVIET AIRLINERS.. TAKE THAT DONKEY. Retired airline pilot im.
RIP for the coast guard personnel 😓
Condolences to the family of the 5 people who were on a mission to deliver aid after the recent earthquake. Very very sad day for Japan.
Finally a news reporter who has good knowledge on aviation and aviation terms like “twin isle” and “the route flight 516 was taking” and “final approach”. Also good she knows what FR24 is.
To be fair not sure what she’s on about by runway C but at least she’s not calling reverse thrust a hole in the plane.
Also my source of knowledge came from 3 random AvGeeks so shoutout to them for giving me the info.
I know it’s a script but glad she makes the effort to describe the plane and flight path etc.
I’m overthinking this and I do give my condolences to the families of the 5 deceased, although it’s a miracle that it wasn’t more than 5 fatalities.
Agreed, it really shows the difference in safety that we have these days. When we compare to accidents similar that have taken place in the past (can't think of any in specific) with older aircraft, there were typically far more losses.
Clearly not enough to call it “Runway C” instead of Taxiway C and saying it landed on “Runway C” instead of “Runway 34R”
She should also thank the writer of her script for getting it correct and for the team that researched it and drafted the script for the script writer.
That much good knowledge that 'the aircraft landed on runway C'! 🙄
Yeah the script writer couldn’t think more than runway C lol
Finally some actual info on the circumstance leading up to the the crash and a little more information on the other aircraft apart from an incidental mention like in the other reports. However, surely we need even more details of that aircraft as that's the one with the fatalities. Are there even any photos or footage of it?
The footage now is just big pile of burned wreckage. There are videos of the AB doing a belly landing , already starting a fire, until he hit the Bombardier, that blew up , and evidently was not supposed to be there. Their version of the NTSB will decide why it was there. The AB had declared an emergency landing, due to the failing of the landing gear.
@@linanicolia1363The A350 was not doing a belly landing. It was doing a normal landing, until it hit the Dash-8.
I hope the families of the fallen recover from this disaster, RIP the fallen men and women
Praise God the crew evacuated all the passengers in the Japan Airlines safely. In the time they had, this is quite a miracle. Praying for the loved ones of those who pershed from the other plane, people on their way to help others....tragic!
All came down to the training of the crew and the discipline of the people.
Praise God? Why didnt god stop it in the first place.
Yeah... It seems that youtube is full of these praise/pray idiots!
It's not god's work. It's the crew who helped ensure all got out safely. If there really is a God, why would there be so many natural disasters
My god. How does everyone survive that? Amazing.
How do they survive? Primarily by not having their heads up their arses (apparently YT has started being a bit Net-Nannny) ...
Also, there was a delay between the time the aircraft stopped moving (which would have also been when the slides were deployed) and the start of the fire...
No video footage of the coast guard plane on the runway before collision ?
My bet he was told line up and wait and got forgotten.
From the first I heard of it I presumed it was going to be Human error. There is no way two planes should be on the same runway at the same time, someone screwed up. CG Pilot, ground or tower. I'm giving the plane landing the benefit of having been cleared to land and something else occurred that shouldn't have.
Outstanding calm and professionalism by the pilots, flight crew, and passengers of that JAL passenger liner. Outstanding work.
The "calm" "professional" pilots were the dunderheads who CAUSED THE CRASH in the first place. Don't glorify these idiots.
I was at the airport, was so so scary.
Runway C? Wtf is runway C. Since when runways are designated by letters?
A plane that doesn't have a location device in 2024!
It did, most special services dont go online
@@Aviator345the news reporter quite literally said it wasn’t equipped with a transponder though?
@@harrylewin3180 No, they said it did not have ADSB-Out. A transponder is an entirely difference piece of equipment and it did have one.
The ADSB transponder gives out a much better location and altitude than the older transponders did. This will turn out to be a communications error between the Coast Guard plane and the tower.@@harrylewin3180
They have location devices, just not a specific type. Not all planes are the same, but they all have something that will help them know where they are lol
Rest In Peace.
this is why i always try to fly during the day. never underestimate the importance of pilot visibility
Great report
This is sad. My heart goes out to Japan 🇯🇵❤
There is no runway C at Haneda, that looks like runway 34R. There is a taxiway C (charlie) running alongside the runway however.
I was thinking the same that there isn't a runway C they must have been on about 34R
There is, for non-ATC people and non-pilots. The runways at Haneda are often referred to as A, B, C, and D.
www.schedule-coordination.jp/archives/arc_hnd/2010/operational_procedure_at_hnd.pdf
C2 taxiway, the Dash must have somehow been over the stop bar
@@farminkythey lined up, I read they were on a different tower frequency than the JAL flight and other approaching traffic
Yep. They’ve confused that the Dash-8 was meant to hold short at Holding Point C and not enter Runway 34R. There is no runway C.
Informative segment
Intersection departure must be prohibited at night or low visibility scenario as the approaching aircraft can not safely go around to avoid collision in case of an incursion.
Yeah I doubt the A350 even saw the Dash 8 at all, they probably had no idea what was going on.
This could have been much, much worse.
On one of the videos, taken by a passenger with his smartphone, showing the aircraft from it's front right hand side and passengers evacuation through door R1, it can clearly be seen that at that very moment there was no fire on the left hand side of the plane, but just below the center of the fuselage and the engine no.2 still running, emmiting sparks, fueling the fire below the center fuselage.
My question is, why the fire brigade did not react to try to smother that fire from engine no.2 by foam and even trying to choke that engine.
As it can clearly be seen, at that very moment that still running engine no.2 was the main source of the fire.
It probably couldn't be shut off because of an electronic failure due to the damage of the impact.
U guess those people did not take there hand luggage with them in the evacuation as some do. Unbelievable and great that everyone survived on the Airbus.
They're not American so no. Japanese are a very disciplined people.
i cried after seeing and hearing this as I am going to Japan next week also
Just sad, runway incursions happen but this one was horrible.
I like the way skynews presented
Mistakes happen ..but the calm approach of the crew and pax was admirable
It looks like the large plane landed more or less on top of the smaller plane. The front landing gear took most of the impact. I think this is why the large plane took so much less damage. The small plane was smashed so much by the landing gear that it was in small pieces.
How on earth is there an aircraft on the rwy when an other aircraft is on final approuch ?
The picture in the beginning did not show an A350-900 but an A350-1000. Do better research when trying to explain something.
The fire engines were so so slow.. The fire crew looked lost..waited so long before they sprayed the foam. Was watching it live..
I notice that there's a body of water on the right hand side of the runway. Probably Tokyo Bay. I wonder if the jet could have veered to the right after landing and ended up in the bay. That would have put out the fire but not sure if the scenario is possible.
@@gary_rumain_you_peons that would've caused many deaths
"Runway C"... top notch journalism.
Lazy journalism.
Man our start of the new year is crazy...
We were celebrating New Years when the earthquake and the plane accident came.
Still now, the news are about this.
With all the tech available this should never have happened. RIP aid workers.
The critical thing here is that the pilot of the coast guard survived, it would be good to get their account of what happened. How could a plane enter the runway with another inbound.
Ridiculous in this day and age. RIP to the lost souls.
How the other aircraft doesn't had transponder? How?😢
Runway C?
Scary stuff.
Recreation of the Tenerife 1976 accident klm pan am
Bless them for their family and the people of indonisia
1:39 surely this was 45 seconds, minutes would be scary!
Runway C?? Great reporting 😅
Eagerly waiting @MentourPilot's explanation of this one.
Totally avoidable..! 😢
Not for the landing plane. If the Coast Guard plane had been in the correct position it wouldn't have happened, but the landing plane had no control over those circumstances (and still managed to get everyone off that plane alive).
Very confused how the landing plane couldn't spot a plane on the runway? Was night but surely the dash-8 had lights? Should be able to execute a go around even if they're only a few hundred metres from seeing it? Am I missing something? Or if a pilot is fixated on landing on their spot they block out everything on the runway before and after?
@harshilpatel684 the coast guard plane wasn't meant to be there, and the jal plane was most likely doing an instrument or ILS approach. The moment they probably started to look outside is when the coast guard plane was most likely already obscured by the a350's nose from the pilots perspective, only coming back into view as they lowered the nose gear down on the runway
@@harshilpatel684reason being they weren't required to look outside
@@pepijnbosvelt2526 thanks for your response, appreciate they're obviously not expecting a plane to be there, but wouldve still thought even if they're fully reliant on ILS they'd be looking out of the window at the landing spot.
Appreciate an A350 is very big and as an aircraft raises it's nose prior to landing may mean the nose obstructs a direct view of the runway, but still would've thought a plane would be visible on the runway! Aborted take offs, slow roll take offers etc happen all the time?
A bit unprofessional of her to scare ppl like that by not being more precise with her stats and not mentioning eg. that huge majority of those accidents have happened outside of Europe.
I like how the news didn’t assume the fault they more or less just gave the facts about what happened, I think I will subscribe!
traffic deviation, maintenance error, loss of situational awareness. so avoidable, what a waste
Japanese people have great group discipline. As a Japanese person, I am suffering from this. How will everyone in the world react at this time?
It's a tragic start to your new year, stay strong.
I have TREMENDOUS RESPECT for the Japanese!! Prayers from the USA!!
Doesn't look great for Japan's promises that they can teach disaster preparedness to Philippines.
The thoughts of many around the world are with the people of Japan for what has happened over the last few days
日本人は自虐的ですね
Its Runway 34R. Taxiway C is next to Runway 34R. That's the road planes takes to get onto the runway.
Similar to the Tenerife catastrophe in 1977
Landing 'Biggest risk' of accidents or fatalities.?
The lady reporting said it’s may have been hard to see visually because it was at night , really ? ATC are trained for exactly this … millions of flights land at night ……. Who’s responsible? As more details emerge it could very we’ll be the tower
Runway C? Do they mean Taxiway C?
Bro shutup 🤓🤓
Someone messed up
No hay pista cno existe la pista C...informar bien
Existe la pista 34 R..que es donde paso todo esto
Oh well. The pilot knows and hes still alive so it will become apparant
It's sad that this is happening to Japan I wish I could help countries should go help like they did to Turkey 🇹🇷 pls save them hopefully there's no more earthquakes and tsunamincoling pls and the saddest thing it happened on new year 😢
No, actually the accident happened on January 2. Japan is a day later than it is in North America.
Sad start to the year.
Runway c??? It's 34r
Truly awful.
That is very worse
My guess would be that the coast guard aircraft did not have its ADS-B transponder set correctly. If so, the TCAS system on the Airbus should have alerted the crew to a conflict and they would have been told by the computer to pull up.
Trying to find out about regulations regarding ADS-B in Japan and not finding anything saying it’s a requirement as it is in the US and Canada.
TCAS doesn't work on the ground, regardless of the presence of a transponder.
@@MrSchwabentier actually, it does work on approach which is where the Japan airlines aircraft would have gotten it. I’ve seen a number of videos of even small general aviation aircraft with simple TCAS systems alerting pilots of others even waiting on a taxiway while on approach.
@@killerdoxen yes, but apparently the Dash-8 entered the runway only in the last second. If they had been on the runway the whole time the A350 pilots would have noticed anyways, even without TCAS. Visibility was fine
@@MrSchwabentier it was dark. A sudden runway incursion isn’t going to be noticed by an aircraft approaching at around 150knots (172 mph) unless they’re alerted to it.
250 incidents out of how many potential incidents? there's literally a few 10's of thousands of airplanes and only 200 or so countries and a few thousand airports globally.
The plane is a DeHavilland Dash 8. Since Bombardier sold off that division of their company. With the new owners adopting the previous name of De Havilland, Canada. In continuing the production
Same kind of poor planning that put the backup generators below sea level. Who woulda thunk, it's a BAD IDEA to mix civil and Military in same airport. Procedures and comm frequencies used are different.
This could have easily have been another pan am and klm incident. That deadly crash is still etched in my memory !
Big kudos to the cockpit crew - especially the PIC. Runway incursions are one of pilot's worst nightmares. They knew maybe seconds ahead that there'd be an impact, and it was a very, very deadly situation. They maintained control though. The entire crew was perfectly on top of their game. It's what us sentimental types call bravery. Shout out to the Airbus engineers too. So sad for the Coast Guard crew for missing critical ATC instructions. RIP. The aviation world will learn much from this amazing and tragic crash.
They didn't maintain control, the plane skated down the runway a la TAM Airlines Flight 3054 only in the dry and without any landing gear. They also confirmed that they DID NOT see the Coast Guard plane AND obeyed ATC clearances instead of initiating a proper Go-Around procedure in cluttered, scrambled and diverted airspace.
Thanks. It looked somewhat controlled, but I appreciate the info. I have since learned about the ATC clearance. Not sure about the opportunity for a go-around. Would an Airbus be able to execute one that close to the ground? @@DR3ADER1
it’s not runway c it’s *taxiway* C5 (Charlie-5)
The runway the A350 (JAL516) was landing on was runway 34R (three-four-right)
and that yellow line on the airport is on the TAXIWAY -_-
also the “Bombardier Dash-8” is aCkThUaLLy a DHC-8 (De Haviland-Canadair), also it *is* sometimes shortened to “the -8”
but besides mistakes that make aviation geeks angry, rest in peace to those aboard the DHC-8 and those effected by the earthquake
and hey props for using FlightRadar24
Even though there are more accidents during landing the most dangerous ones are during take off.
I think if they had a traffic light system was implemented and controled by Air Traffic control. When Air traffic Control gives permission to take off he press's the green for go button. This changes the stop light to green to enter the runway space to take off. In addition the lights on the left and right of the run way should turn red or flashing red showing any approaching aircraft that the runway is been used for a takeoff. This could work in reverse for landings for air craft waiting to takeoff.
The system was broken at the time.
Yes there is such a system, not with green lights but with red lights that probably would have kept the Dash off the runway but that system has been out of service since December 27th.
Nice to see a man presenting on this channel. Big hands too!
Ok. Grief over lives lost and great thanksgiving for lives spared. I am that. The fact is that's a lot of occurrences. 250 over years but .. finding out how and why is good but better still is to change, improve & fix to lower & diminish these things.
Air Traffic Controllers should have noticed all & avoided the accident. Someone there will be sacked & jailed.
“The aircraft touches down on runway C?”. It landed on runway 34 right.
There are 8 aeronautical runways (like 16L/34R ) but only 4 physical ones that count for building and rescue operations. The latter are called A, B, C and D.
So this event is similar like US airways flight 1493 and SkyWest flight 5569? 🤔
After 2023 a safe aviation air, 2024 brought a sad news. Being myself in aviation sector, i pray for the best in the following months. RIP who were demised, salute to aid workers.
How sad and just after the New years earthquake too 😢
ATC or the coast guard pilot made a huge mistake. . more likely than it was the coast guard pilot who made the mistake of not holding and trying to take off as the airbus was landing
Terrible pronunciation of names and secondly there is no runway C, the aircraft landed on runway 34R. Seems news quality really has dropped all over the world.
5 People died though in the Dash 8 that was hit.
I hope this video is a reminder to always follow the safety instructions of flight crew. I have seen so many videos of idiotic passengers that argue with flight crew over instructions they are told such as remain seated, and having seat in an upright position when landing. I have also seen terrible misinformation on videos telling gullible people not to do the brace position as it would cause your spine to shoot out of your skull. It’s the worst advice to listen to. All safety instructions are based off many years of scientific studies and research and not some bone headed RUclipsr trying to get cheap views for their own personal gain.
Everyone got out safely because they listened to flight crew which followed their safety protocols they were trained on. I have personally been on a flight where passengers were so blasé about the safety instructions as well as some flight crew who probably gave up trying to talk sense into people who will not listen.
lol, its hard to "See visually because it's at night" ? There's gotta be more processes in place to prevent collisions. That's a pretty scary thing to hear.
lots of movements, lots of traffic. it's easy to end up distracted by preflight checks
this is why some (but not all) airfields have lightbars at hold points which only go green when authorised to proceed and some other airports have setup taxiways which go around (and below) the runways to avoid incursions altogether
@@miscbits6399 Well, we're talking about a world class airport, and also Japanese-level work aptitude (even if its peak travelling season). Someone in the ATC messed up somewhere. Either they're severely understaffed, or they need better process / technology to avoid something like this again. The safety of hundreds of passengers can't be at the mercy of a single pair of eyeballs
Yeah this has been on all day
"Runway C"??? There is 16R/34L, 16L/34R, 04/22 and 04/23 at HND but no C??
It's sometimes called runway C at Haneda, but C refers to the runway as a structure (with no magnetic headings).