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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- My review of Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers 2.
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Fun fact: In Japanese, "ringo" means apple. So the two AI characters are named Apple and Fig, both of which feature prominently in Abrahamic mythology.
So your telling me the main character is actually secretly Siri
Dude that's awesome I love when atlus does little things like that .
Although I think that "apple" only is part of the mythology as a result of the word for fruit being translated into Latin by the word "poma" which was later restricted to mean "apple," but in the original Hebrew and the early Greek editions, there is no apple. Just a fruit.
I think they should have localized the name to Apple… or something other then Ringo as whenever I hear that name I cant think of anyone but the Beatles.
Just wanted to ask "Oh i wonder why the named her Apple" xD
This looks good and I'll probably pick it up.
I wish more RPGs were like the Trails games where you can slash and destroy lesser enemies without the need to fight a battle below your level.
You have to complete everyone's soul matrix to get to real/final ending is what I've heard! Hype to start later today! Great review!! 🔥✊🏿
Yes you need everyone's Soul Matrix complete which means you need their soul link at 100 for all the party members!
Erick your dedication is your strong. You just keep going dude. 😭😭😭 thank u bro
Game is basically the definition of 7/10. Not bad but not great, just decent. You can tell it was almost an afterthought with a small budget but the team did what they could. Here’s to hoping we get another summoner/survivor, SJ or saga game
Would that be more like a 5?
I don't like how the chart only seems to go from 5-10
@@TheTrueAlpharius 5 or less would hurt the game’s feelings
@@TheTrueAlpharius See, 5 is "painfully average". As in "It's not good, it's not bad, it just... IS." 7/10, whether it's a bad or good rating, especially for a AAA game, depends on whether the game was a main, priority project or just a side project with a small budget but dedicated devs. If it's the former, then it's underwhelming, but if it's the latter, it's actually pretty good. Anything less than 5, though, is when you start to get into the "bad games" territory. 4 is "It's bad but at least has a handful of things it did right". 3 is "Cash grab that at least TRIES to be a game, even though it failed at it", 2 is "Cash grab that's an obvious cash grab that only barely qualifies as a game" and 1 is "cash grab that's the barest of barebones, is unplayable, and wouldn't even be able to pass as a pre-Alpha build nevertheless a finished game".
@RogueOmega
That sounds like a very accurate system. That pretty much sounds like the scale I use. I feel like people flip out over a 7 generally. To me a 7 signifies a little bit above average though. To me, a 6 isn't even that bad. A 6 can still be fun.
@@TheTrueAlpharius I know what you mean but somehow 7 has ended up being the average mark for games. Anything 5 or less is generally not worth your time or money.
Good review
Glad atlus are now in good terms with you. You got me into SMT V and P5. Excited to play this game next
I fear for the sales of this game, besides the quality of it. Soul hackers being a international release IS A BIG DEAL! Also, I'm an atlus fan, I'll enjoy this game anyway, so this are my personal reasons to buy it
Yeah, ill always buy megaten games. Love atlas and this series and off shoots. Seeing how great persona, smt 5 and now this are made ill keep supporting them
SMT main line isn't that big compared to Persona only SMT V did well at 1 million currently.
@@TheMaestroMizerous yes, cause mainline is trapped in Nintendo Jail.
@phantomxero1x447 it was an "okay" game to me. It could've worked better as a first person dungeon crawler imo with that empty dungeon design and simple social mechanics
Also, the “We Need To Talk About…” series is great.
Regardless what you think of the game that jacket is dope AF.
Drippy
The vibe that I get from this review is, “it’s an ok game but it’s also amazing”.
Watching the holographic ghost kids talking by the slide just reminds me of Cloud Strife's F'd up memory scenes.
I’m enjoying it so far. Its more up my ally presentation-wise. And I hope it gets better for me at least.
Was starting to wonder if any bigger RUclips channels enjoyed the game. I freaking loved it. Thanks for sharing your thots, I Def agree!
Crazy how much of a better video this is than yakko’s.
This was the review that I needed? My copy is already on its way home!
Greetings from Mexico
I’m really loving this game so far
I've been playing it on xbox s and have been loving it so far, especially the music!
Thanks for the excellent review!!
In terms of JRPG reviews i never take serious most of the outlets because most of them don't understand the genre and i mean i have seen reviews that actually criticize that JRPG are turn based, normally for JRPG i see the user reviews because most people that buy this kidn of games are fans of the genre and there opinion matters most, the only outlet that i actually belive on JRPG is 3DJUEGOS but only becaus ethey have a person that is specialized in the genre and reviews all the big JRPG.
I couldn't get used to the camera, but fortunately they added a feature to change it to center focus and to adapt the distance from the camera so now I can explore without getting dizzy
Not the jrpg I'm looking for so I'll watch a lets play but I'm glad you enjoyed it this much, thanks!!
Looks very good! I’m happy it turned out great. I’ll be grabbing my copy this weekend
There is DLC to add a 5th member, though I havent gotten her yet because apparently she doesnt join until NG?
Yes, Erik. Do their soul matrix's and all requests to get the best ending. You should grab up the DLC character if you do. You can also get DLC that lets you randomize the music with this games, Persona 4 and 5, Shin Megami 3,4, and 5 ect.
And you will start to like Arrow and Raize more if you do their soul matrix's. All 3 characters have good story arcs.
I am around 15 hours into the game, and my experience summed up so far, is that its a good game, not great, just good.
Character and monster design is very good, but dungeon design is rather dull and boring(Why did they resurrect SMT3 underground rail roads?).
Music is fine, but i havent really heard anything i would particular say is memorable, sometimes the dungeon music and the "aggro/chased" music doesnt meld well at all. Combat music is sorta good, but i feel it lacks impact, hopefully it will change with later bosses. *crosses fingers*
It feels like alot of the mechanics used are grabbed from other Atlus stables, and is an amalgamation of it all, some sounds good on paper, but feels not so good on practice. Some of them feels a bit anti synergistic in nature.
Risky enemies seems taken from Tokyo Mirage sessions, thou in tokyo mirage sessions you had the option to spend ressources to take them down and also they werent ridiculus over leveled compared to you, in Soul Hackers 2 i have meet risky monsters 10 level above me, in a dungeon i was vastly over leveling. (underground railroad, i was around lvl 23, risky monsters was lvl 33) so they basically turbo crittet me to nothingness.
Sending out your demons to scout seems taken from Persona 3. They give you random stuff, money, heals you or maybe gives you "rare" things that can trigger a social event. Sometimes you really just want the quest items, but you have to run around a little more then you wanted too to get them. Demon recruiting is kinda hard to "target" and control, and i also miss the fact that demons could rob you blind and run away. Also, why does it feel like they incentivise having a full stock to increase chances of meeting your demons, which goes against having slots open in new areas to recruit. I could have liked an option to remove a demon when a recruit chance opens.
Abilities that increases drop chance from Sabbath kills, but in most cases sabbath isnt the one killing anything, which just makes you feel sad. :(
Demon fusion synergies/affinities: You cant fuse skills unto a demon that it is weak too, which just makes it harder to do the whole downfuse/upfuse to design your demons. (i wanted to get a jack frost bufula skills on to a Fortuna, so had to do some middle fusing of some others, but i couldnt find a good "path" because of this)
I like the ability to hit the monsters to stun them, but why i have on many occasions experiencethe sword going straight trough the monster not stunning it, but instead rewarding me with a ambush attack. They could have changed the arc on the sword swing a bit better, also, because of camera angle it can be a bit hard to judge range.
Feels like the game is guiding you towards having each character specialize in an element, which kinda is anti-synergistic in terms of how sabbath works. (Affinity to elements gating you to get higher elemental augmentations)
I am playing on Normal atm. but i kinda regret not putting it on hard, because the difficulty so far, has not
None of this is majorly game breaking, but its just some of those little things that adds up.
Thank you for your complete and unbiased opinion in this review, I've been waiting for this game to come out for a while and i now have more reason than before to pick this up. I'll still play SH1 so i at least have my baring's and a sense of things.
It’s set in the same world/universe as the first game just further in future. The tie is the fact that Spookies I’m in the game. There are multiple endings based on how much of the soul matrix you complete and the only way to get the true ending is to complete all of the soul matrix’s
There is an option in settings to disable camera tracking, so the camera won't automatically focus on Ringo. Also, change tips display to "Button Advance" - drastically reduces loading times.
I don't care about the critics review. I find enjoyment even with the most medicore jrpgs out there. Not every game has to be a AAA game to everyone. I'm just sick of everyone comparing the other Atlus games to Persona 5! Like every game from Atlus must be a Persona 5 quality! I love how they make each game unique and creative. This is why i love Atlus games. I bought the digital premium version and the Collector's edition to show my support. I'm still hoping they will release more games and hope for a Persona 2 duology will come out...
They are still stuck in the 00s where RPGs are considered to be taboo instead of joining the approval crowd on shooting games like CoD
Thank you
True, critics also said SMT V was just Persona five without heart. Another years ago called Etrian Odyssey the adventures of Fight and Heal. That's what happens when they have people who don't play niche genre's trying to review these types of games. Turns out if dont like dungeon crawly style games, you probably are gonna give them bad reviews regardless if they are good or not.
I really hope everyone knows that you can change how far away the camera is to Ringo and you can change if she's placed on the left, center or right of the screen. Also, turn Tips off in the settings menu to get rid of load screens on ps5.
Which angle gives the best view of her as... uhm, I mean... cool, thanks. That's useful to know 🙂
Bought a physical copy this morning. Had to get the employees at Best buy to dig it out. The new AAA murder sims and sports games were out, of course.
Still waiting for devil survivor 3
Hyped to play this on game pass🔥
If an ass in the camera is your first complaint, that's a VERY good sign.
I like the way you review the games amigo, very good attention to detail without spoilers.
I changed the camera distance from Ringo in the settings, loving the game so far :D thanks for the review!
Loving it so far on my Xbox Series X. Just got the 3rd character.
About five or so hours in it grabbed me like all the best Atlus games have. Hopelessly addicted and I can barely put it down. The gameplay is sublime when it gets going and the story is pretty fun. The art style is gorgeous.
How’s the music
Just fyi..i found out yesterday you can change the camera angle from Ringo to farther away and you can place her in the center of the screen instead of the default camera view under configuration. I prefer the farther away view.
I literally just finished up this game today I put about 90 hours into it I like it 👍🏾👍🏾
Getting paid on Friday. Was going to hold off for a sale but I think I'll take the plunge. Thanks for the review
Playing cyberpunk 2077 for the first time and loving it and picked this up today so ill get to continue that cyberpunk aesthetic.
This sounds pretty sweet to me, I loved smt 5 and its focus on gameplay so I like that you say this has a 70/30 gameplay to story focus
We have to support companies Atlus and NIS if we want good JRPs to continue to be localized. Atlus is the equivalent to SquareSoft in the 90’s. They take chances publishing these games in the west not knowing if they’ll be successful or not but it’s f we don’t support them and they lose money it’s going to be bad for us in the end.
Yeah let’s give them money so they can keep making mediocre games
@@nigele8625 Maybe mediocre to you but not to me. They are the ones who took a chance and localized and published Demon’s Souls in the west because Sony thought it was too difficult for Americans and then they couldn’t even afford to bid on Dark Souls because Demon’s Souls was the biggest hit they ever had. So if you want to play what I think is mediocre like Final Fantasy 5… thousand then don’t support them but if anyone like difficult games or just different than the usual crap games that are fun like Etrian Odyssey (my second favorite series of all time), SMT/Persona, Radiant Historia, Dragon’s Crown, Catherine, 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim, Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE, Odin Sphere then Atlus is the company to support. The only Sqaure Enix series worth buying these days is Dragon Quest, they ruined or abandoned every other IP they have. I’d love to see your wonderful library of games that aren’t mediocre for the lolz, if you really think the games I mentioned are mediocre then you must import games from Japan I’ve never heard of, since I haven’t seen them or heard of them.
@@richardaaron4454Square is trash nowadays so it’s easy to be better than them. And i like Atlus but recently they are just making mediocre/ok games like soul hackers 2, smt v, persona 5 (royal was kinda cool), strikers, smt iv apocalypse, TMS FE and lazy ports. They were the equivalent of Squaresoft 90's at some point, but not now. Like you mentioned Radiant Historia, Catherine and megaten games during the DS and PS2 era were pretty fking great but it seems that Atlus lost all his creativity. By the way 13 sentinel, odin sphere and dragon crown were made by vanillaware.
Also want to mention that just because i think those games are "mediocre/ok” it doesn’t mean I haven’t enjoyed them, is just that I don’t see Atlus like that company that deserves especial support, or at least not anymore.
@@nigele8625 The only mediocre port was Nocturne HD though. Nearly every other re-release Atlus makes goes above and beyond, adding tons of content and objectively improving upon the games in many ways. IDK why they were so lazy with Nocturne HD, but that's the only mediocrity I've seen from them recently.
@@nigele8625 I do because they are small with a small budget. Vanillaware makes great games. I love Muramasa: The Demon Blade, I believe they made that too. Level 5 is great too. I just rather support struggling companies than Namco Bandai or EA that squander money and ruin small developers. Etrian Odyssey IV is easily one of my top 5 favorite games of all time.
Today I just got my copy.
Hide the Loading Screen in Config to decrease loading times to near instant.
Average reviews *seem to be the theme of this game. I'll definitely get it on sale
I've been enjoying the heck out of it, but that Entrance to the Axis that you have to pass through before getting to the Soul Matrix is just brutal. Wait for loading screen to get into The Axis, then immediately you're just hitting the button to get to the Entrance where you actually DO stuff. They could have moved the "talk to Flamma" option to something in the Entrance and saved us all that 10 seconds every time we went to the Soul Matrix.
Did you know that you can skip the loading screens, respectively the tool tips in the loading screen? There is a option for it in the option menu. Reduce the waiting time from 10 seconds to 2 for me.
@@Ryu_Teruyama . . . . You're a goddamn miracle worker.
@@ryanwatters7193 You're welcome :)
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I gotta say Soul Hackers 2 looks like a real good game, I'll be willing to try this game because it looks so much like Persona 5, thanks for reviewing Soul Hackers 2 Erick Landon you did a nice job 👍
I was waiting on you to talk about this
Just set the camera to have Ringo at the center of the screen then set it to be as far from her as possible and there you go.
Infinitely better visibility !
Sounds good. I actually played Soul Hackers but its mechanics are painfully outdated, glad to see that's been fixed up. Mostly average reviews but it sounds like it's trying to bring Devil Summoner into the current century so that's admirable.
Now let's see Devil Survivor 3. It's time.
I was going to skip this, your review has convinced me to buy it
Should have Came Out on Switch. Would've been a Day one buy for me. Now I'll wait for a possible switch port.
Hopefully, the Steam version will get tweaked so when I get home in a few weeks, it'll run great on the Deck that's waiting for me there.
That being said, it is waiting for me on my Series X as well.
OH also!!! add a no spoiler in the title somehow!!! it may help bring views!!! love the channel and wanna see it grow!
Saizo Soul Matrix Sector 3F - if you know, you know
No lie I love the dungeon crawler first person I think it's what makes the Smnt series
from what i understand this game dosent happen in the same world as the other SH games (i could be wrong though) there are very few easter eggs for the other games but nothing amazing. great video my friend!
I don't know about it focusing on her ass. It's a third person game. They're always from behind. The focus is on what is immediately in front of them, since that's what's in the middle of the screen, framed by the character model, her sword and the UI. (Cut scenes appear to be a different story, tho.)
Make more reviews, Landon! This one was great! Of course I like your Top 10 stuff, but, maybe it's time move your Chanel to a other directions.
Same composer as Nier Automata? Seems worth buying for that alone.
Kinda appreciate the game length tbh. 60 hours seems about perfect to me. Unless it's really, really good. Then games start to outlive their welcome to me at that point.
You can adjust the camera more far away from the character in the Options menu by the way.
Thanks for covering this with your unique flair and passion :). The UI and color scheme reminds me a LOT of Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE. Haven't heard anyone else mention this in the vids I've seen.
My copy is coming through the mail by tonight.
Looks very cool. It's on my list for sure.
Yeah, Soul matrix's progress affects the ending (or so I was said, I just started)
This is in my backlog for sure.
Very enjoyable video man! Glad that Atlus decided to take a better approach with you. You are one of the most outspoken and enthusiastic advocates for the genre.
what happened to the intro song?
(All jokes aside) But the camera angle doesn’t look bad? 🤷♂️
I have been loving Soul Hackers 2. I don’t know why people think every game needs to be SMT or Persona.
I think it's funny how much you love the sword slashing away enemies when I think the first time they used that mechanic was in a game you despise - Tokyo Mirage Sessions
near the end of the review now and wow, they really took a lot of aspects from TMS' dungeon crawling and polished them up. I still think I prefer TMS's battle system to this one but I'm glad they're not letting the good ideas from that game go to waste (also after this I have to assume the reasons you don't like TMS are the characters/story and J-Pop lol)
6:45 It is not like All Out Attack in Persona games its more like Demon Coop from Strange Journey, because YOUR DEMONS doing AoA like in SJ not party members like in Persona games. This is huge diffirence. Even u have Commander Skills from Strange Journey Redux ...
*is a good starting point for new players*
*It will get better once you play the other titles from the other series*
*Personal score:7/10*
I loved P5 and SMTV, so I absolutely have to get this at some point.
You legit sold me.
LETS GO LETS GO
This was always a maybe game for me but when I first watched some gameplay it was out of question for me. Not because I didn't like the gameplay (didn't even get that far) but because the developers made a grave mistake: the text in the HUD, the menus and subtitles is way too small. I'm not able to read it on the screen I play my games on. That's an absolute no-go especially since many developers think about disabled people with either bigger or size adjustable text.
I remembered demon summon or devil survivor on ds. But I never heard of this series
For whoever needs to hear it: Gamestop got PS5s in stock today. I don't know how many, but the one closest to me Spokane, WA) got 10.
Great video
Yo people's. When you all get a chance, check out this game called honkai : star rail....it looks really dope 😁👍
It doesn't look as good as SH1. I really dig the cyberpunk aesthetics of the first game. I'm still interested on this though. Might pick it up on black Friday sales.
I wish they would port the first game on modern consoles and pc, just so fans can have both games at hand.
Just wait one year later
Thank you
Jajaja que pedo, the middle finger strategy worked fine huh?! Fantastic, now we need a strange journey 2 with the same characteristics as this SH2, atlus is really spoling us PC players nowadays and I'm grateful for it.
I think this game is good. I'm a long time SMT fan. What I don't like about this game is the fact that it tried hard to be P5. Some soundtracks were from P5. This game should have its own identity. I can imagine the P1 remake to be something like this.
I’m here after watching larrue's video
Wow a balance game??? That e plain why some smt "fans" did not like it and would not surprise me if some reviewer gives a bad score just because is not persona 6
Indeed.
WTF I have not even started the game. You got it before release I suppose?
do we tho ?
Between this and xenoblade 3, I haven’t put both down
Eric arent you going to talk about penny blood and armed fantasia?
is your doom shirt the English punk band or the Japanese industrial-esque rock band?
This is Not Soul Hacker
This is Persona but we Devil Summoner Reference (D.S 1997)
This is true, but I'll take it. Soon everything from atlus will beasically be persona. Its the only things that sales.
No.
Wrong
You can change camera
this doesnt look better than smtv, in anyway lmao
Yeah. Especially textures and animation. Aside ofcourse resolution.
Nice video
you know what game remind the navigation camera?....
Time & eternity xD
Likes JRPGs, hates random encounters.... so what your saying is you don't like one of the core features of JRPGs then?
He said he likes the option to skip them. I'm of the same opinion too, I don't want to keep facing low level mobs while doing quests in earlier areas.