I went UNDERCOVER in Colorado to Buy my "FIRST" Motorcycle
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I went back undercover posing as a first time motorcycle buyers with no experience to see how the salesman will treat me and the conclusion is something that I did not expect, but the catch is if they let me buy an awesome 1000 super sport bike then i will actually have to buy it.
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I like the old guy, he's honest and doesn't want you to die.
Bruh he told him to get a 600, thats like telling a child not to put a fork in a power socket but then handing them a knife instead. Both are dangerous af for a first time rider.
@@ChaoticMartian not really, someone who takes a motorcycle safety course, and has ridden mountain bikes could definitely start on a 600, sure they might drop it, but it's a hell of alot safer than a 1000.
@@ChaoticMartian entirely disagree my first bike was 1100cc all you gotta do is slowly increase your limit. I didn't leave first gear or my neighborhood for the first month and a half of having the bike. Then I got comfortable with changing gears, then driving faster, then driving even faster and then after a few (about 8) months of riding everyday for a few hours. I started pushing the bike
@@josephgallo5170 yeah its still dangerous or you wouldnt have limited yourself right? Not everyone has the same self control as you do.
@@ChaoticMartian it is still dangerous I agree. Although I'm not special though, we as a society gotta stop letting the lowest common denominators hold us all back and start learning from successful people
Denis is the kind of guy i think should work at every motorcycle dealership. Blunt and to the point, he's probably saved a lot of lives.
This is what i call good customer service. not just thinking about making a quick commission, but building a long lasting customer relationship. the initial purchase may be lower, but that kid will bring in more money over time. as opposed to when ....he's dead.
but yet he kills himself with a muzzle on his face how's that for to the point
Nice you copy pasted the comment above you
Honestly would’ve wanted him to be my sales person lol
Denis is awesome
It's hard to tell how many lives Dennis has saved with his upfront, blunt and ethical sales style. Dude is a straight up good guy. Not all heroes wear capes.
It isn't a motorcycle salesman's job to make sure you don't do something stupid. That is your job.
@@destroya3303 It's funny how people like you single out a comment to disagree with. Really illustrates how entitled you are, also shows how much you really care about other people. Everyone is just "doing their job". You're probably one of the types that needs someone to tell you not to drink bleach too.
@@destroya3303 It is the motorcycle salesman's job to make sure you are happy with the bike you buy. Pretty sure the buyer won't be that happy in a wheelchair or a coffin.
But even in a more basic level, it is not ok to potentially harm people just for financial gains, even if legal.
@@destroya3303 Some people think bang manufacturers and sellers should be legally responsible for what happens after their legal transactions. Some people think bangs are too dangerous for anyone to own and that people that disagree are responsible for their misuses.
In this case however there's an argument to be made that by simply taking responsibility that isn't legally required you can protect idiots and the hobby. To be honest it's a bit telling that some of these bikes are still legally sold to teens. I remember in the 90s when there was quite a bit of talk about heavily regulating powerful bikes and it could just be that the "community" is what curtailed that.
I'm not a rider. My dad and uncles were avid riders accept for one who nearly died as a teen after laying one down to avoid a direct collision with a pickup truck. He still rode... sort of... like in his driveway. He wasn't weak he just suffered spinal damage that led to twitches and motor issues. He focused on cars after and became a lifelong professional mechanic.
My point is that while none of us have a legal responsibility like this we could if the masses dictated it. That and loving each other is a good way to go.
He's a real motorcycle enthusiast. Through and through.
Denis didn't even realized that by not selling you the fastest and most expensive bike he had, made like a ton of people watching this go and find him out just to buy a bike from him. You go Denis!
You can't blame Chris. He mentioned that they're too powerful and doesn't recommend them but the customer kept pushing for it. Chris is young so it's hard for him to be stern with people
yeah and he's probably newer at the job with a lot of pressure to get some results while dennis probably has better position with some leeway to do as he wants
he cant tell someone they cant buy it though. Say your peace, then there on their own.
@@adamnichols476 well, of course
@@adamnichols476 You can most certainly refuse, no one is obligated to sell you anything, as long as their reasoning doesn't have to do with anything discriminatory towards a protected class. That said, it's probably not a good way to hold down a job if you're not in a position to call shots.
@@cannibal_bacon I’ll tell you all the facts, tell you what’s my opinion, I wont lie to you, and at the end of the day, I’m not going to restrict your freedom. I trust you to be a person with common sense. I’m not a democrat.
Dennis is a great guy, probably saved a lot of life's over the years.
Not with the way he’s wearing that mask
@@jacobgreen6899 give Dennis a break. He’s older and more likely to harm himself more than anyone else in this video considering everyone around is young and healthy.
Oh whatever dude. He's smart, he wants to sell him 2 bikes, small one now, big one later
@@Dani2wheels he just doesnt want to be the guy that let a greenhorn kill himself! Thats a fuckin awesome man
Dennis has seen some sh**
"You know what the difference is? Life and death". Couldn't have been more honest than that...lol.
Not wearing his mask indoors
still willing to sell a s1000rr to someone who didnt know where the throttle or clutch is.
@@amirtz3342 lol def could use a lesson on why a mask could be life and death for someone as old as him
@@nofx84 A piece of fabric won't do jack. Only an N95 or proper respirator will work.
@@amirtz3342 Not wearing a useless mask for a disease that hasn't been proven to exist. If you have a functional brain, do your own research. :)
Dennis was basically like “I’m NOT selling you one of those fastest bikes we have for your first bike, I don’t care if you’re upset or I lose out on money.”
I saw a young 19 year old die in a motorcycle wreck. I jumped out of my truck to help him but he was gone. Still had the dealer tag on his bike.
Scary shit
That's awful shit
@@Bardo420 in deed
I'm trying to sell my wrx to buy my first bike... that's why I'm looking at what I need beforehand.
@@Ieatzboltz when you do just be safe. I have never had a motorcycle. I was wanting one at the time of the accident and was actually checking the bike out when a car pulled out in front of him and he went flying through the air. The impact knocked him out of his boots and helmet and the small rav 4 he hit did a 180 into oncoming traffic. The sun was setting and he was coming from the west so they didn't see him. I currently have a jeep srt and was seriously considering getting a motorcycle, but after seeing that I changed my mind. I have a daughter on the way at 33 and don't want to take too many unnecessary risks. If I were an experienced rider I would go for it but I'm not so I'm going to stick to four wheels. I saw a guy get hit in Florida as well last summer. If you get one make it loud and stay safe.
Dennis is THE guy to sell a bike. Instead of making his numbers, he knows what the community is all about. Props to him. ✌️
This. I love Dennis. He’s a good man.
And he wants to build relationships with return customers. He probably wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing he sold a 500lb missile to a newb. Fortunately, 1st time young riders get turned off by the cost of insurance if they are financing the bike
He's a good dude, see him from time to time when I browse around at Rocky Mountain Cycle Plaza.
Im glad my brother stopped riding a street bike. He is a firefighter and scraped lots of people from the asphalt in parts.
@@CaptainRon1913 yeah probably not gonna have that many return customers if you sell a beginner a 1000cc bike
Dennis is an ace.
He really deserves a medal for saving lives, in all honesty.
It is genuinely encouraging to see that.
I love Dennis. “Life and death” he’s more focused on his customers safety than the sale. But he’s doing it in a way that he still gets the sale, he’s straight foward and gentle. Stern but sweet at the same time
in some ways its strategic too, it ensures he sells his 650's and 450's, otherwise almost anyone would get a liter bike as its not much more. But yeah never start with a liter bike, get yourself a good 450 or 650, and even that is still a lot of power that can scare you, but at least it isn't likely to get you killed.
Known Dennis for years he is straight up , and very honest on his opinion.. He tells some good jokes
Just in the first few minutes I already like Dennis. Tells you how it is and doesn't bullshit you.
I feel the cap
I've witnessed this exact scenario while in one of my local bike shops. Young kid, recently graduated onto to his full motorcycle license, ready to buy an R1, and I overheard the salesman tell him "Yeah, it's pretty damn quick, mate. Will take you from zero to red smear on a guardrail in under five seconds."
That is a GREAT way to explain to a teenager that you don’t need a R1 😂😬
Let me guess, he bough it.
I'm 19 and want to buy s1000rr as first bike, I'm upgrading from my bicycle
@@str8xrippin that is a great idea!!!!
@@Alex_G1885 thank you for the support, I will update you every few months, can't wait to get it and go 200 mph on the first day. I'm so excited
Dennis in his career has saved more lives than the average doctor.
Lmao yeah a first time rider is 100 percent safe on a 600 sport bike 😂😂😂 I guess you've never worked in a hospital and treated motorcycle trauma patients.
100 percent
Probably not but i get what you were trying to say.
I’m a board certified critical care doc, and I 100% agree lol.
Dennis sold me my first bike!
That was very kind of you to send them a pair of gloves with $500 bucks stuffed inside. I'm sure they will appreciate it. At the end of the day, we are all just tying to make a few bucks to keep us in food, shelter and motorcycles. I love the USA!
If one of these guys would have eventually sold you the bike after recommending a smaller bike I still couldn't fault them for it, they explained the risk If they pushed the bigger bike on you it would be different.
Exactly, thats called being an adult, not on salesman if this guy still insists on buying it. All these salesman did all they could do, the young guy from apex actually sold me my sons 12" stacyc ktm
agreed
I agree 100%
The problem is that they can sell you an insane bike as your first one. The law should not allow such things. The rules for bike riders here in the UK is extremely strict. A little too strict though but I would rather have that than no limits. Madness if you ask me.........
@@rufus1346 IMO It should be just like it is, I don't need or want the government telling me what I can and can't do. If you buy something you shouldn't then that's on you.
As a long time rider I'm proud of this guys for steering you in the right direction and not doing what would put a quick dollar in their pocket.
In England, we have engine size rules for beginners and age restrictions on the bigger sized bikes. Trouble is, many middle aged men have a mid life crisis and want to get a big bike that they feel they missed out on when younger. So, they take a week's intensive training course on an under powered size appropriate hired learning bike, with a test at the end, then because they're older and can afford the insurance etc, they go and purchase a vastly over powered bike for their abilities. Guess what, they have a very high crash rate. The laws covering bike sizes should depend on how long you've ridden smaller engined bikes, no matter your age.
@@mickk8519 the guys who end up falling off hard and regret it immediatly basicallly?
Hats off to all of those salesmen for discouraging you from buying too much bike for your first bike. Dennis was my favorite. Just a good dude.
I was in the motorcycle business for 43 years, all positions from assembly to management. My line was very much like Dennis. When Dad would come in with 16 year old Junior, who could ride the wheels off his PW80 and wanted anywhere from a 600 to 1100 sport bike. The first thing I would tell him, AND Dad was learning to ride on this type of bike was like trying to learn to fly in an F-16. Sometimes they regain their senses and go to something safer and more practical, but all too often they would end up with what Junior wanted. I said a prayer every time this happened.
God bless you and everyone else who did the same🙏🏼
Is a 16 year old buying a motorcycle common? I will be 17 in 2 weeks and I’m saving up for a Yamaha R3.
@@angeloc1340 hey My friend! Im 19 and bought my first bike. A cb650f, i do love it so much! Honestly I really think you will love the r3! Its fkn 321cc! That thing is super super dope! In Switzerland it’s common for young guys to ride 50cc or 125cc with 16 and when you turn 18 you can ride up to 48 hp. Young ppl like us ride, but not to much. Please take care and wear leather protection suit! It’s so important !
@@angeloc1340 Dont do it. Someone I know just died on a bike like that just 3 days ago, he was like 20 years old. They shouldn't even be legal to drive period. Like all these cars have to have airbags and seat belts, but you can just drive basically a wet paper bag at 100 mph legally, its insane.
@@mikeworkman3593 they should be, everyone has a choice. It depends on what sort of driver you are going to be.
Dennis is a cool guy. Sometimes people need a reality check.
I live at this exact Rocky Mountain he is awesome he has some good knowledge about this stuff
You need to be blunt when talking about the dangers of motorcycle riding. We have enough fatalities as it is.
Yup
Glad he was honest Dennis is the best
I'd have listen once he started speaking... Seams like a soiled guy!!
"iS tHiS tHe cLutCh?"
Dennis has alot of patience... I would've kicked him out for saying that xD
Yea and the comment I want to go as fast as I can as soon as I can. I’d be like yo man get on an airplane.
Ands that’s why you would be an awful salesman😂
One less idiot on the road xD
To all my motorcyclist why did u choose a motorcycle over an atv
I’ve been in sales for 25 years and that one would have been the end of my patience as well.
Mad chops to Apex Motorsports and Rocky Mountain Cycle Plaza for representing Colorado so well! That's my hometown and I have had great conversations with Dennis, Chris and Jesse. Thanks for taking care of them!
I miss Denver man. Moving back seems like a financial nightmare.
@@casey360360 same.
Yeah, C Springs is my home town as well. I love riding in Colorado, well actually just about anywhere, I spent so much time in the bike shops as a kid and everybody was so cool with it. I'm sure they knew eventually I'd have enough money to buy one.
Dennis has been there for over a decade. I've known him for years and he's a great guy.
Tons of credit to Dennis (and his team) for being an ethical, experienced salesman who is more a consultant than a sales person. That is the trademark of a long term customer centric vision that all companies should aspire to!
That was awesome! I truly thought the first young lad was going to cave, but, as he should have, stuck to his integrity and recommended a smaller bike. Dennis was terrific! He truly understood that commission is not worth someone's potential death! You are also such a great guy to send them the kit and cash. Truly, you also have a great amount of integrity. Cheers.
I'm guessing Dennis made that mistake once and vowed to never do it again
This is the opposite of a used car lot
Don't you have misinformation to spread?
We got an angry used car salesman here ^^
lmao...couldn't have said it better!
@@-Saigo- you mean like a car salesman does?
@@geraldwest3428 Lol
Man I gotta say, I appreciate Dennis, he reminds me of the guy who runs one of the bike dealers in my city who has also probably saved a lot of lives by putting misguided youths on the right track or even outright refusing to sell certain bikes to em despite losing a sale as a result cos the risk to the rider ain't worth it and he wouldn't be able to sleep at night if he caught wind of em hurtin themselves, we need guys like that.
When I got my bike licence back in the 80s here in australia, you were only licenced to ride up to 250cc for the first 12 months. After 12 months you could upgrade to 500cc or do an approved 2 week course and go straight to open licence. Made sense and saved lives.
Because we need the government to control us more...
I think that should be mandatory everywhere
@@orangedealer6931 This is America. Personal responsibility + stupidity is your right.
That's because in the 70's too many people were getting into serious accidents from inexperience and riding large bikes they couldn't handle
Even with the upped CC limit for LAMS bikes now, it's a much better way of doing it. 660cc, even restricted, is definitely on the limit of what is safe for a new rider - why America, and presumably other countries, let new riders ride superbikes is negligent at best.
You were a rare customer. Walking in and asking the dumbest questions. Most motorcyclists are real enthusiasts who have done their homework and know something about the bikes before even talking to a dealership. Good on the sales staff for telling you the truth and steering you toward rider training and a smaller cc bike.
Yo, this is my home town. I bought my first bike from Dennis and his crew. Great guys.
@@lukewhetzle831 it is Rocky Mountain Cycle Plaza in Colorado springs CO. They do have beginner dirt bikes, actually one of the largest selections I've seen. Great place, my next dirt bike will be coming from them for sure.
Me too man!!!
@luke hit up 5th gear as well bought plenty of out bikes from them over the years.
@@geffy89 oh shit really? I go to CC. I need to get something, and they seem awesome!
Faith in humanity restored, the sales guys were awesome and the $500 was a nice touch.
A really unexpected and morale booster to continue the service to humankind! When I was 25, I got a ride to the local Harley shop on the back of my bro's Triumph to purchase my first new Harley. I built a chopper welding and all with a 1973 high compression 650 Yamaha. She was a real kick buttock bike. They allowed me to sit on every bike on the show room floor I wanted to. I was wearing old blue jeans, a white tee shirt, and my old boots, so I don't think they thought I could really afford a new bike anyway. On the way in the shop, there sat a chromed-out stock FXE. A 1200 cc 74 C.I. Shovel head that was a 1978 1/2-year model with very low miles. It pissed me off they had the price taped to the paint on the front fender. I went to it after seeing all I wanted inside and peeled off the tape. I had C.D.'s but wanted a loan for credit purposes. Told them I would be back in a couple hours. Didn't get the I.D. # or anything. DOH! Had the bank call them. Met the officer who owned the bike about an hour after they were supposed to close. But they stayed open. Handed Deputy Flack 36 one-hundred-dollar bills and drove her home. Man, oh man was she sweet! Plenty of power, turned like no bike I had ever ridden, and with the dual disc up front, she stopped on a dime and would leave change. Best deal ever. That was just a little over 42 years ago. I still love that motorcycle! But Thats not what you were talking about. They would have let me take any bike I wanted. At 6' 1" and about 145 back then I could have handled any bike they had. My goal was an Electra glide, But I took the sporty model anyway. Thanks for the film, I enjoyed it. And as you can tell, it took me back to my time in the new bike shop! On 02/20/1980 @ 6P.M. And contrary to all that has been said about these bikes, it has NEVER broken down or left me anywhere. A breaker hit the bottom of the seat or frame or a bolt (something to short it out) ONE time and shut down. While I was standing there wondering what could be wrong, I heard it re-click. Took the seat off put the breaker back in its saddle and drove happily on! Hello Dep. Flack! I sometimes rode with him and his buddy while they were on patrol as they were motor cops. He would brag that it was his old bike because I had added more chrome, custom paint, inlaid custom seat to match the pain, comfortable bars, dual gas caps, just so many things to make it a riding show bike. Sorry I drug it on, I am an old man now and I got pleasure talking about it. So many memories!!!
I went to a dealership looking for a first-time bike for my son. I was looking at a Versys 300 an S40 and a CB500. The dealer came and found me on the showroom floor, and after I told him I was shopping for my son's first motorcycle, he took me to a brand new Indian Scout Bobber! I walked out. He wasn't concerned with selling me what was going to work; he was only concerned with selling me what would make a good commission.
"You have to have mental control of your right wrist."
Dennis used to be a bible camp counselor.
I see what you did there... hahahahahahah
Lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I died
Lmaoooo!!!! Omg hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha
G-d, that was funny!
Omg man, made my day. And im taking this one for my first bike purchase.
I've met Dennis. I love how straight forward and blunt he is.
I went from driving a 50cc moped to a 1000cc supermotard, even before I got my drivers license. Got 20 meters out of the garage before I was doing an unplanned wheelie and almost fell over. Had some newfound respect for it after that. Truth be told, owned it for 2 years and it scared me silly everytime I drove it. Was on the brink of serious crashes 3 times but somehow managed to stay on the road. Sold it after that.
I volunteered to ride a bike to the shop for my friend after he made a deal on it. No matter what gear I was in, or how fast I was going. Riding it regular, not powering it or babying it, when I twisted the wick above ANY normal driving that front wheel would come up. Not in a real scary way, like pop up instantly or anything. Just the front would just start rising. It all felt so well balanced and such, that I believe if it were mine, I could walk it wheel up anywhere at any time and still have full control. I have never driven such a bike since that day, and don't even remember the name of it.
Some people aren't meant to own or ride powerful motorcycles.
I've heard a 400 or 600 is a good first bike to understand complete throttle control before you ever decide to move to the big bois. I'd think I never will get a 1000cc, cause I'm not that typpa guy but we never know.
@@NAGaming513 600 sport bikes make 100+ horsepower and are almost as quick as liter bikes up 100 mph or so. Be careful.
@@tavspop Cheers for the headsup, I've been researching around and I think I'll start off with the Husq Svart 401 as my beginning rider. I'm looking for a good daily rider so it might be a solid shout.
Respect to all those guys. They really understand how dangerous a highly tuned machine is in the wrong hands. Also, respect to you, Sean, for hooking them up at the end - you have a great attitude!
Dennis thinks you’re a tool! Lol!! I love this guy! This is HILARIOUS!!! 😂🤣😂 I’d bet my ass he’s not being as blunt as he’d like to be. Back to the video......
he was such a great guy. I would like to hang out with him sometime
Actually he is I say the same when people come to the shop and ask questions like that
lol!! 👍😂🍻
@@BikesandBeards next video
As a Native Coloradan, I'm proud of these guys. There's a LOT wrong with this state right now - but it's nice to know that Colorado Motorcycle Riders/Salesmen are honest and have good hearts and look out for the people they work with!!!
There’s a lot of good people here in my experience after a long while. The problem is social unrest, which is everywhere now/
#1 Take a motorcycle safety course. Everyone needs to do this.
i can go and buy one without a course? does the course not give you a license? i’m 22 and thinking of getting my first bike
@@Three-Trece3 You CAN buy one without having taken a course. The endorsement on your license comes from the DMV. At least here in Texas, there is a written exam you have to take. But that's about it. Take a course. It's not that expensive, and you get to learn in a controlled environment on somebody else's bike. The fundamental's you learn there are key to successful riding. I have ridden off and on for nearly twenty years, and I have only dropped a bike one time. I dropped it because I was not paying enough attention to the fundamentals in that moment.
I have actually purchased a bike from both of those dealers in CS. This was a few years before this vid was made. They have always maintained this integrity (although I am sure there are salesmen that slipped through selling to someone that shouldn't be buying that certain bike). Glad to see they are still doing the right things.
Just found your channel this passed week (recovering from surgery), and I love it that someone is doing this to show people what to watch out for. Great to see salesmen being honest & NOT putting their paychecks over safety. Keep up the great work! If you are still doing stuff like this, TN is also a 1 party state, and much closer to PA.
Always keep your faith in God. He is above all!
Glad to see that there are still honest people out there. Always makes me cringe when people who have just got a license want the fastest and baddest thing
Hey! Some of us don't even have a license lol. I appreciate honest people myself, but if somebody knows what they want, they better be able to get it. This is America after all.
Well, I think he's Canadian, but still
That's why I got the fastest baddest thing years before I got my bike license, so ppl wouldn't cringe 🤣😎💨💨💯
@@barryallen5507 They did say that you can buy any bike you want. But they don't recommend it where I live in the UK you have to take the test then you can level up which should be the case across the world really
Weird when you see your local bike dealers on the RUclipss. Poor Dennis, he's usually really talkative and will shoot the shit with anybody about the bikes. He's a good guy. Shout out to Rocky Mountain Cycle Plaza.
I take it Dennis doesn't care for squids! 😆
I hope you show him the video
Why poor Dennis?
I sold motorcycles and cars in several dealerships back in the 90's, and I never saw a single salesman sell a liter sport bike to a new rider, certainly not one who didn't now where the clutch lever was. What is real is the threat of being victimized by the unscrupulous sales, closing, and financing techniques. I only worked at one dealership, a motorcycle dealership in LA, that played none of the games. We gave you the Out the Door price before you even looked at the bike. And we were literally the least expensive motorcycles in country. Until 2008, when it all came crashing down. Honestly does not pay.
am i tweaking or did u just contradict yourself with the “i sold cars n bikes in several dealerships” just to say “i only worked at one dealership” 😭
@@Brickharrison_was thinking that too 😂💀💀
bro how much drugs did u take before writing tht...
Dennis is definitely blunt, but he's the kind of salesmen that we need more of. There are two many of them out to make a paycheck, and willing to upsell new riders onto bikes that are way too powerful for their own good.
Dennis "I ride Harley's"
Beard "I want ..."
Dennis "no you don't"
“I’ve been riding mountain bikes a long time” Lolol 😂
I had a buddy switch from mtn bikes to motorcycles. Guy is insanity good on a bike. Endless wheelies on his 600 and on dirt he can bunnyhop his crf450.... I have been riding for 20 years and can't get that back tire to pop up like him.
I mean it actually does help. Mountain bikers have good balance usually.
I ride MTB a lot, decently gnarly stuff, it helps a bit? but controlling a big nasty bike with ludicrous power, not so much! (I"d wager often MTB is more dangerous though)
Then you will want to be able to stand for bumps, the fat bikes won't let you and throttle response times are 10 or 12 sec!
@@jacobt5720 Thats great but your buddy is the guy who usually becomes a statistic. Having balance isn't the same as having the ability to deal with speed and pulling endless wheelies is great until he finds out the hard way that 5mph on a mountain bike means you stop - 100mph on a 600 means you hit whatever is infront before you can even get the wheel down.
He's one lazy/distracted driver away from a morgue.
Dennis & Jesse seemed very knowledgeable and straightforward. They didn't seem like they're just there to make the sales. We need more salesmen like them.
You can't expect salesmen to push back hard against a customer who wants the most expensive thing in the shop, especially when they're being rude and insistent.
But that is the thimg that decides if they're a good salesman.
isn’t it legal to ride any bike? i thought there aren’t any power limits in the us.....obe of the reasons in glad i live here
yup, this. if a customer comes into my store and keeps insisting that he wants/needs a 450 race bike or a GSXR, I’m not gonna tell him no. it’s his money and choice.
Thats the difference of one time sales and life time sales how many riders do you know that have ever owned one bike if you sell a starter bike then a 600 than a 1000 to a person you make more in the long run you want them to have the best experience as possible to become a repeat Customer
In the end as long as the customer well understands the danger, that's what matters.
Him: "I drive pretty fast cars". Salesman: "You know what the difference is....life and death"! 🤨👍
“I got a pretty quick turbo cellica “
This cracked me up because my old turbo celica is a way scarier driving experience than my first bike lol
Scotty Kilmer???
😮
Exactly what I was just going to say! Haha this is great all the way around!
😵
You're an amazing dude, and I agree with some people's comments that people like Dennis need to be at every shop
So cringe when you pretended not to know where the throttle was.
If I was walking by I give an obvious stink face
The "accelerator"
the point was to be cringe, lol
Thats... the whole point... of what hes doing...
@@1nesMcCookie so if you see someone doing something incredibly embarrassing, on purpose, you don't cringe? Interesting.
"I've got a pretty quick turbo Celica"
Oh, that poor sales rep.
🤣
I like this video, those salesmen had ethics, and it showed. I got my first dirt bike at 11, it was a Yamaha GT80, I wanted a YZ80, but the guys at the Yamaha shop recommended to my Dad to start me on a less powerful bike. Learned on that bike, then moved up 2 years later to a YZ 100. At 17, my Dad bought me a Suzuki GN400 street cruiser. At 19, I bought myself a 1985 Yamaha FJ600. Swapped out the clutch, put headers and re-jetted the carbs, and had a solid bike. Going through that progression did me well, I rode on the street for 3 years, and never had a single incident, until April 24, 1986. Riding to work that day, doing 25 in a 25 zone 2 blocks from my apartment, a dude in a S10 Blazer made a left turn and took me out. Nothing I could do about it. Props to those guys for encouraging customers to buy the proper bike for their skill levels.
Need more motorists like Dennis
Trying to educate more then anything, trying to keep people safe
I was a salesman in New York for about 20 years sold pretty much everything from Ducati Suzuki‘s Hondas motor Guzy’s Yamaha and the Augusta I would always ask them if they ever road before most of the sales guys that I work with pretty much didn’t care all they wanted was commission one day a guy came in and he wanted to Suzuki 750 I asked him if he knew how to ride he says yes I have a little bit of experience I told him before I even sell you a bike I want you to go to riding school and hope that it rained that day so he can get even better knowledge he came back to me couple weeks later with a certificate he also had experience riding his friend 600 so I felt a little bit more comfortable so we got around it took a couple hours to sell the bike and get The bike ready to go I felt comfortable because he had taken the class and practice on his friends 600 Which he Road and felt really comfortable we talked about his family and his wife and he was so excited to get his first bike came time to take the bike out he pretty much knew everything he went up and down the block to make me comfortable then he left the store 15 minutes later state trooper calls did you guys sell a bike I said yes he said well the guy just hit a pole and he’s dead I thought by sending him to school and making me feel comfortable selling him the bike it would be OK but when I found out I was very sad and then about another half hour later his wife calls and asked me did you sell my husband a bike I felt so bad I cried she said I want to come down and see you because you were the last one to speak to my husband she came down I got emotional I apologized to her I told her I am so sorry and she said it’s OK it’s what he wanted all she wanted to know what her husband talked about before he left and I told her you and the kids I still get emotional to this day speaking about it I hope it helps Most sales men or women out there It’s not about the sale or the commission it’s about doing the right thing I left the industry I still do ride but I think a lot about that day and things I could’ve done different but I felt comfortable with what I did I hope other salesman out there listen
Thanks for sharing this story...I really do hope other salesmen listen. 🙏🏼🙏🏼
I'm sorry that you went through this. I know it's not your fault. But I know that pain and I feel for you. Thank you for sharing your experience and hopefully someone learns from it.
Sad story, but man I'm out of breath just reading it. You've made a novel out of one sentence.
Wow, thats rough. You tried your very best to do the right thing, which is more then alot of people would have done. Sometimes despite our best efforts, people do foolish things. Thanks for sharing that story, that was hard for me to read let alone live.
Thank you for sharing that with us.
I cracked up “no one will notice me this time” “hey aren’t u from bikes and beards”
Lol I actually did this for real and bought my first street bike - the BMW.....I had ridden/raced motocross growing up and rode a few street bikes but never owned one. The guy turned on the “rain” mode for me as I left so I wouldn’t wreck it....lol. 5 years later we are both still in one piece!
Got my first Bike recently and worked with a guy JUST like Dennis and I’m so happy for that. I ended up with a MT07 over the MT03 just because I wanted to be able to grow into it more and even then he was kinda reluctant. Very honest with me and even gave me a bunch of advice from his own experiences.
The sad thing, is that these salesmen have to actually deal with people that are actually like this. How do you say no to however many people who actually act like this?
What are you talking about, its other's responsibility to protect me from myself. I can not be responsible for my decisions and actions.
@@zeropointmx2552 Well said. It's like fat people who go into McDonalds. Do we really expect a cashier not to sell them hamburgers because they are doing harm to themselves? Being free means being responsible for your own life and safety
As a rider with 12 years experience, If I was a motorbike salesman I'd rather strictly say no and refuse to sell to new riders a big engine bike rather than getting that fat commissions check. I dont want to deal with sad or teary-eyed mothers coming in the store every now and then telling their son is dead or coma in hospital and if they can sell back the wrecked motorbike to us
Yeah I mean you can try your best to point them to a different bike but if they want to risk their life by and get something over powerful then that’s their choice.
@@ridge9066 I agree. You are responsible for your choices & actions.
"So, how do you actually ride this?"
That really inspired confidence.
All of the sales men were right on point! Glad to see so much care taken in the motorcycle community 👍🏻
Dennis is the man! Saying the first step is to take the training course was solid. I used to teach MSF courses, and we had so many students show up AFTER buying their first bike (often a 1000cc super-sport) and having a wreck or close call that woke them up.
"which ones the clutch?" LOL!
Did you see his face?😂😂 He was sooo done
Where the throttle?. lol
I loved when he tried to twist the grip.
If I was salesman I think any bike be bad idea of don't know clutch
Asking where's the '____' is part of my little quiz before I let anyone ride my motorcycle. If you can't name the thing I'm pointing at or point at the thing I'm naming then you don't get to ride no exceptions. I'm not an instructor, it's not my job to teach you how to hurt yourself.
I knew a kid who had his motorcycle endorsement for a while but hadn't got himself a bike. I thought "He has his endorsement, he'll be fine" but then he went down on the opposite side of the street trying to pull out of the driveway. Never again.
I'm still thankful for the salesman I met near where I live. When I was looking for my first bike, even though I told him I wasn't buying a bike today, he still took about an hour of his day to show me a few bikes and answer every - single - question I had.
I don't know Dennis, but I know I'd like him. Patience of a saint.
Dennis is a really good man. I know him. I bout shit my pants when I realized he was filming this in Colorado Springs. Lived there for years. bought my Gsxr 1000 in Colorado Springs
I worked at a motorcycle dealership where we had a few bikes in our inventory that when someone came in to buy their first bike and had these crazy ideas of what they wanted as their LITERAL first bike, we would offer to sell them one of these first time rider bikes and after 6 months we would by it back for the same price we sold it for plus any repairs it needed to bring it back to the same relative condition. We sold those bikes a few times over and I can’t tell you how grateful those customers were when they came back to buy a realistic bike for their caliber of experience. We were fortunate enough to have a dealership owner that invested into the safety of the rider community like this and it helped build a terrific reputation for the dealership. 👍🏻😎👍🏻
I respect Dennis, its like a your real father giving you good advice, and loving you like your own son. Respect for people like Dennis
Idk why dennis is getting knocked he didn't want you dying.
He didn’t want you dying unless you made him beneficiary lmao
The OG not giving a crap about your opinions and just knowing his job.
it's nice to see these salesmen try to talk you out of buying something they thought would be a "bad idea" for a first-time rider. gives you back faith in humanity.
Dennis knows you won't come back in 5 years for the new model if you're dead.
"Is it automatic?" rofl. Yeah I trolled the dealer once. When I was about to get on the bike post purchase, I asked if the gas was the right foot and brake on the left foot. You could see the sales guy computing if he needed to suddenly intervene, hahaha.
ROFL
Avid rider when I was a pup. Took 25 years off riding to raise a family the bought a naked bike with a comfy seating position but yet sporty cuz I was done raising a family!. When I was about to turn it on and ride off into the sunset, I asked where the choke was located. Doh! The salesman and his mechanic laughed a bit.
@@emeraldphotography7363honestly thats less bad, considering plenty if not all bikes back then were carbed.
I’ve been to both of these dealers for various things and they have always taken great care of me. Including saving me from buying a new head for my kx250 after a mistake on my part and they didn’t even charge labor. Glad to see them pass this test!
🤣 when you flex to that salesman your turbo Celica I died hahahaha
Got me too 😂
I wanna turbo my little girl machine so bad
I wanna take this time out and say thank you so much this world needs more people like you what you do is amazing and id love to shake your hand one day much respect and many blessings!
Wow, I live here in Colorado Springs (where both of these dealerships are located) and just had great conversations with Chris and Dennis. Both upstanding great salesmen, in fact Chris just sold me two bikes this last weekend, one being for my son. I would give my business to these dealerships any day of the week over the Denver shops. I have purchased many bikes from Apex sports over the years and hands down both of these stores are top notch! But in the end, this is a free country, if you have a death wish, no one is going to stop you. Thanks Chris! my son is now hooked, we’ll be back for the 110 in a few years.
Dude I recognized that dealership immediately. I live here in the springs myself.
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I like the line about “I’d like to be the beneficiary on your will” it’s comical but also gets a very blunt point across.
Appreciate how you mentioned the community and how we look out for each other, instant sub. The “looking out” was definitely shown in your video at this dealership. The salesmen here didn’t just bite on a big quick sale and tried to respectfully help steer you in a safe smart direction. Plus dead guys don’t come back for sales of service, parts, and more bikes.
I don’t ride bikes. How this guy showed up on my RUclips radar? I have no idea..
But to see what he’s doing for the community, biker or not. It means something to me. I’ll never own a motorcycle personally. But I’m gonna sub this guy cause he’s doing good deeds.
And that’s what I believe in. Thanks man.
Stay safe and keep doing what you’re doing ✌🏻
Dennis is the real MVP. That guy single handedly saved many lives I'm sure. He wouldn't back down from his stance. Great for him and even the other two guys.
Props to you for rewarding their good advice and looking out for people despite the loss of a commission. Much respect from this guy! It made ME feel really good that you were sending such a great reward their way!
You’re a cool dude and so were those salesmen. Honesty in any trade is great but when it involves someone’s life and safety glad to know there’s people out there that still care.
Dropped a sub for you even though I don’t have a bike...good content 👍🏼
I died at that walk in "nobody will recognize me at all", next guy "oh hey I know you!"😂
That was staged, did you not see that there was a camera already in the building?
Awesome video. Jesse is the salesman who actually sold me my first bike about a year and half ago, my 2013 zx6r. By far one of my favorite salesman I’ve ever dealt with
“walk a little bit before you try to run.” - dennis
Goddamn.
yeah then when asked if a s1000rr is a good bike for him after asking where the clutch and throttle are responds "they are all good bikes"
@@stavencapp he said they are all good bikes, but he recommended a 600
90cc, 125,, 250,, 500,,250,, 600,750,, 900,, that's how you should do it too many dyin for speed too young
@@lizcole9827 are you going to pay for all of those bikes my guy???
@@azariahh8175 that's how I did In s fashion 250 - Honda c90- 125-,,500 550 --400 250--- another 550--900--x3 1100 now on a 1500vn
I've seen a number of times that motorcycle salesmen fought hard to keep first-time buyers from making mistakes, even when it might cost them a sale. Before MSF, I saw a Honda dealer tell an eager buyer to go to the Yamaha dealer's "Learn to Ride" weekend. I've seen used-bike dealers who were absolutely at war with each other call and ask "What'cha got in stock for a beginner bike?" I've seen outlaw bikers pull up alongside a newbie at a stoplight to give quick advice about looking ahead and staying off the oil. People who ride tend to take care of people who are LEARNING to ride.
its the same in the mtb Community, when i see someone out of their comfort zone that obvously doesnt know how to ride i give him Tips.
What a fantastic gesture on your behalf to show your appreciation to the Sales guys for being straight up with you instead of just making the sell. God is Great.
That was very fine if you to reward those salesmen as you did. They're keeping us all safe, as you are. Thank you!
Dennis is on the ball, sometimes that bluntness saves some lives.
did we watch the same video? Nowhere did any of them try and steer him away from these high powered bikes. They didn't push a sale to their credit, but had he said i want this r1 or s1000rr guaranteed they would have written him up no problems
@@stavencapp I mean they would probably get in trouble if they refused to sell to a customer. They’re doing their best to help him out there.
Dennis is the man! The guys is 100% out for the customers best interest, and no bs
Forget bike shops, we need more like Dennis at the gun sellers. As a CCW trainer, I see people buying a lethal object who don’t know the diff between a throttle and a trigger.
Sold my FZ6. Was either headed for the morgue or the jail.
I saw the quote somewhere-
“The path or mature riders is
Small bike-big bike- small bike.
Shows real maturity”
Horseshit. Everyone knows where the trigger is on a gun and which direction to point the gun. Get the CCW trainer BS out of here. That gun elitist bullshit is exactly that.
@@brontoab1 Hahahaha...ok. That's why "Everyone" never gets wounded or killed with a negligent discharge.
LOL.
@@brontoab1 the scary thing is people don’t know where to point or how to shoot and until you witness it firsthand you’ll continue to be ignorant
@@brontoab1 Agreed! There's always that one lol
I've been a biker for over 20 years, my current bike is 675cc I see no reason to go any bigger. It's quick and handles like a dream. Dennis talks a lot of sense.
I’m Brazilian, and around here a 125 or 150cc is the absolute standard. Grew up and learned to ride on a Honda CG 125. Still own it, and it’s a fantastic bike for city riding! Now I own a 350cc and it’s plenty enough for me.
I don't ride fast, but a big engine always pulls better when accelerating, you don't need to be cruising 165mph all day though
@stilkus yep its like having a lot of horsepower in your car
You don't have to use it but it's there if you ever need it
I really appreciate your work and content. I got 20 years riding, enough body scars, enough hospital visits, and enough fallen comrades to support the tough love. Keep up the good work...... 👍👍👍
Love from Japan! Here, anything over 400 is considered large so it's pretty funny watching yall call them small!
Our highways have a speed limit of 65 mph. 104 kph?. So a 400 is kinda small to whisky throttle out of a cars way doing 65 when everyone is doing 75
Hello to Japan. I have a 1999 NX650 I keep in good shape
@@currst the thing is you don't need to whisky throttle out of cars way because Japan currently has 12.5 million bikes and 80 million cars and at one point in time had more bikes than cars. In India, there are 30 million cars and and well over 300 million bikes, so bikes rule the road and cars give way to bikes, so anything over 250cc ( sport, not cruiser, they often go over 500cc) is considered large and comes under the luxury tax bracket.
@@currst it's really not that bad though. My first bike was a Kawasaki 500 with 50 horsepower and I had no issue getting through traffic. Id cruise it 80 mph no issue. Modern 400s are about the same horsepower. Even a 400's going to accelerate harder than most cars everybody nowadays drives and a econobox or an econobox SUV
400 is small
Dennis is the type of person u want to sell u anything...his honest. Saves lives.
I like Dennis, blunt was exactly the tone need with the way you were acting.
Looking forwards to see what happens at the end of this
When he said “like this” and full throttled I died😂😂😂😂