I've been saying he's the goat since 1971 back when a lot of people still hadn't heard of him😮 I'll tell you this much Buddy Rich heard of him and said he was the best rock drummer on the planet Neil Peart heard of him and was greatly influenced by him following his drumming back in those days in a feverish pitch😮😮
@@thomasmead4642 Buddy Rich not only attended his concerts when he had the chance but even let Karl date his own daughter. I read all this in the modern drummer magazine back in the 1980s.
He is the greatest of all time for me! Saw ELP in ‘92 on the Black Moon comeback tour in Bristol. His massive drum solo blew my socks off!! No one to touch him. 🤘🥁🤘
How Carl Palmer isn't classified as one of the top 10 drummers goes way over my head. Tarkus alone pushes him into that rank. I wish I saw them more than just 4 times.
He was he won every p o l l in the 1970s it's just after ELP broke up a new generation of fans who didn't listen to progressive rock growing up naturally gravitated toward Rush and some of the others. I mean look at bill bruford just like Palmer he gets very little recognition these days except for us old early 1970s progressive rock guys are people knowledgeable in both Jazz and rock percussion😮
@@truthseekerKJV Buddy Rich called him the greatest rock drummer on the planet. He actually dated buddy Rich's daughter. He also inspired Neil Peart and is on Neil Peart top 10 list of favorite drummers. Carl Palmer there is no better there is no substitution. Happy New Years
You're looking at one of the GREATEST rock drummers of all time and there are some REALLY good ones - especially in prog rock and more recently in prog metal. Those of us who are Baby Boomers grew up listening and watching this dude. He was king of the mountain then and still is. Palmer's hand speed is UNMATCHED. In the first half of this video it quite literally looks like the footage is sped up. Just AMAZING...
I saw him play with Asia on the Alpha tour in August 1983. He had the Premier all steel shell drum kit- 4 racks, 2 floors, double bass, not sure what make and model the snare was, 2 typani behind him, 6 Simmons drums shaped like a man’s head and large assortment of Paiste cymbals and 2 monster Paiste symphonic gongs. To say he was amazing would a huge understatement. Blew everyone away that night- the solo he played was simply epic! And they looked like they were all having fun up there. Also, John Wetton was still with them.
That was the first time he played double bass too ( performance wise) I saw that tour...When He came out and sat behind the set; he ran off a killer double bass roll...:)...When he solo'd all the ushers ran in to watch ( Cow Palace near san fran)
Best drummer carl palmer...best lead vocalist Greg lake...best piano synthesize Keith emerson..ELP miss and love you guys God bless you thank you for all the memories
I have met Carl- gave him a yoyo- and seen ELP 3x. He is very nice and teaches seriously...but...his mind works on another level. He is a truly advanced human. What he does here beginning at 4:44...cannot be done by anyone else, I believe.
That single stroke roll climax is taken straight from Buddy Rich ruclips.net/video/nxN-wN0LW3o/видео.html And Sonny Payne also did some similar stuff to this ruclips.net/video/r3Dd_Ee0k4A/видео.html
Neil Peart is #1, well, was now. Carl, Terry Bozzio, several others in the top 5. Bonham is distinct to himself because he was the basis for all of them. While not necessarily as technically skilled, none of them would be here without him.
Buddy Rich was the best drummer that dude was like the best drummer when he was 20, which was when he started his career. He also just had a unique style of playing with people like Charlie Parker and others. He really just was insane man and for sure at the top by a long way.
Yep Palmer blows Neil away. I am a drummer and have played Neil's stuff with ease over the years. Some of Palmer's stuff I can't do. What gets me is how even common people who aren't even drummers can't even recognize how much faster Palmer is to Neil. Neil is not even a fast drummer really.
@@anthonydavella8350 Neil is definitely smoother or better yet gentler and more intricate. Carl always starts off the snare drum. That is his Jazz background like Buddy Rich. It is the jazz standard to base everything off the snare to everything else. Old school style but Carl modernized it. To play at the speeds Carl does with accurate precision of the rudiments takes serious skill and endurance. It is way harder and more physically demanding than what Neil does. i get gased after about 3 minutes of trying to play Carl's stuff. I am not saying Neil is a bad drummer by any means, he is phenomenal and very creative. I am just simply stating the big difference between the 2 and what Palmer does is much harder to do and does take some schooling in jazz to be able to play correctly.
Even forgetting the greatest drum solo ever you see here!! .... Many people don't know he was very first to cross the analog- digital divide!!! He invented the modern electronic digital drum machine!!! For that alone.... The GOAT.....
I see a lot of Buddy Rich in his playing. I'm guessing Buddy inspired many of the really good rock drummers in one way or another. Also rare to see a drummer these days, play strictly standard/conventional grip. Peart has switched back and forth during much of his career.
When Buddy Rich was asked by Johnny Carson on the tonight show if there was anybody..any musician that he like in contemporary music..he said ELP , he said he made a point to go see them in concert when they came to NY. !!!!
One of the most underrated drummer of history, for my opinion this is the best second drummer in the human history , the number 1 is John bonnan of course
As a drummer I was able to understand and duplicate Phil Collins, Chester Thompson, Sib Hashian, even most of Neil Peart. But in all those years of playing, analyzing using slow motion video and freeze framing, Carl goes to a level that I still cannot comprehend let alone duplicate. I really think that people who denigrate him or pan him are actually jealous because it just cannot be matched, there's no amount of training that can create what he became, even someone born with above average proficiency is unlikely to be able to do what he does.
Apart from which, completely different style of percussion, BR LED his orchestra from the kit, as all great drummers should do, the beat creates the timing for all else. Even Carl took lessons from Buddy in the 60's!
Sad too see a hero stuck in a place musically 🥁ing the same solo since the 80s/ Tambourine since the early 70s before he was gifted with his signature stainless steel kit.
@@roybeckerman9253 So, Sonny Payne did gimmicks when he playing for Count Basie and Mr. Basie hired because that's all he could, I guess. Carl Palmer's a rock drummer; I think you forgot that part. Hey, does Dennis Chambers do gimmicks, because, he's pretty versitile.
I totally agree, but Carl took lessons from Buddy and imo he did a good job of transferring a basic talent into the showmanship that was ELP and the Prog Rock of the time. In my view no one will ever hold a candle to Buddy, saw him a cpl of times in my youth (I am now 64) and he was just incomparable. What a true pro and bandleader. My Dad introduced me to him from HIS youth, the swing era, and by God i'm so grateful he did.
I've been saying he's the goat since 1971 back when a lot of people still hadn't heard of him😮 I'll tell you this much Buddy Rich heard of him and said he was the best rock drummer on the planet Neil Peart heard of him and was greatly influenced by him following his drumming back in those days in a feverish pitch😮😮
That's something when Buddy Rich has respect for you, he usually only thought highly of himself.
@@thomasmead4642 Buddy Rich not only attended his concerts when he had the chance but even let Karl date his own daughter. I read all this in the modern drummer magazine back in the 1980s.
He is the greatest of all time for me! Saw ELP in ‘92 on the Black Moon comeback tour in Bristol. His massive drum solo blew my socks off!! No one to touch him. 🤘🥁🤘
He is a beast.. Great drummer ...under appreciated
How Carl Palmer isn't classified as one of the top 10 drummers goes way over my head. Tarkus alone pushes him into that rank. I wish I saw them more than just 4 times.
Who said he's not in the top 10?
I so agree. He blows me away every time. I only saw them once, but they've been serious favorites of mine for years!!
He was he won every p o l l in the 1970s it's just after ELP broke up a new generation of fans who didn't listen to progressive rock growing up naturally gravitated toward Rush and some of the others. I mean look at bill bruford just like Palmer he gets very little recognition these days except for us old early 1970s progressive rock guys are people knowledgeable in both Jazz and rock percussion😮
I read somewhere that Buddy Rich gave him good compliments, and that's saying a lot.
@@truthseekerKJV Buddy Rich called him the greatest rock drummer on the planet. He actually dated buddy Rich's daughter. He also inspired Neil Peart and is on Neil Peart top 10 list of favorite drummers. Carl Palmer there is no better there is no substitution. Happy New Years
saw him last night play in Erie, PA for the ELP Tribute.... great performance, the guy's still got it at 73!!! and his musicians are excellent!!
You're looking at one of the GREATEST rock drummers of all time and there are some REALLY good ones - especially in prog rock and more recently in prog metal. Those of us who are Baby Boomers grew up listening and watching this dude. He was king of the mountain then and still is. Palmer's hand speed is UNMATCHED. In the first half of this video it quite literally looks like the footage is sped up. Just AMAZING...
THE goat...47 year drummer...Speed, fluidity, composition, complexity of beats, body of work...
I saw him play with Asia on the Alpha tour in August 1983. He had the Premier all steel shell drum kit- 4 racks, 2 floors, double bass, not sure what make and model the snare was, 2 typani behind him, 6 Simmons drums shaped like a man’s head and large assortment of Paiste cymbals and 2 monster Paiste symphonic gongs. To say he was amazing would a huge understatement. Blew everyone away that night- the solo he played was simply epic! And they looked like they were all having fun up there. Also, John Wetton was still with them.
That was the first time he played double bass too ( performance wise) I saw that tour...When He came out and sat behind the set; he ran off a killer double bass roll...:)...When he solo'd all the ushers ran in to watch ( Cow Palace near san fran)
Best drummer carl palmer...best lead vocalist Greg lake...best piano synthesize Keith emerson..ELP miss and love you guys God bless you thank you for all the memories
He is still doing solos today 🐐
All I haveto say... INCREDIBLE!!!!
Th be totally real! Buddy Rich could only dream of playing this fast and fluid.
I have met Carl- gave him a yoyo- and seen ELP 3x. He is very nice and teaches seriously...but...his mind works on another level. He is a truly advanced human. What he does here beginning at 4:44...cannot be done by anyone else, I believe.
Buddy Rich, but that's about it.
That single stroke roll climax is taken straight from Buddy Rich ruclips.net/video/nxN-wN0LW3o/видео.html
And Sonny Payne also did some similar stuff to this ruclips.net/video/r3Dd_Ee0k4A/видео.html
That's definitely a Buddy Rich influence. Pretty amazing to see someone able to play that fast with that intensity.
Ultimate Technician
In all my life , the only drum riff I can't get right.....buddy rich can just eat popcorn and watch the champ palmer
I totaly remember when I saw them at the Grande Ballroom. I'll never ever forget it.!!!!
The master even puts humour into it !!
Just pure excellence. Top dog is Carl Palmer followed very closely by John Bonham. There is no substitute for perfection.
Neil Peart is #1, well, was now.
Carl, Terry Bozzio, several others in the top 5.
Bonham is distinct to himself because he was the basis for all of them. While not necessarily as technically skilled, none of them would be here without him.
Buddy Rich was the best drummer that dude was like the best drummer when he was 20, which was when he started his career. He also just had a unique style of playing with people like Charlie Parker and others. He really just was insane man and for sure at the top by a long way.
To me, Bonham and Peart were not even close. Carl’s technique leaves them both in - the - dust.
Buddy Rich. Carl's idol.
Carl is one of my favorite players of all time. And I really wish Remo had continued making these Acousticon shells, because they sounded fantastic !
How the drum set does not burst into flames is still a mystery to scientists!!!!!
Ive seen neil perts drum solo twice and carl Palmer twice the solo carl palmer did in Cleveland in 94 smoked all Drummers no can touch that
Honestly, I really think he is one of the best drummers to have ever lived. He is lightyears of ahead of Peart.
Horses for courses. More of a natural swing than Neil. Neil was getting there in the mid 90s after "re learning" again before his family tragedies.
Absolutely, I often thought Pearts rating was more of rock urban legend than anything. Palmer blows him away, not even close.
Yep Palmer blows Neil away. I am a drummer and have played Neil's stuff with ease over the years. Some of Palmer's stuff I can't do. What gets me is how even common people who aren't even drummers can't even recognize how much faster Palmer is to Neil. Neil is not even a fast drummer really.
@@jskypercussion Carl spends too much time on his snare IMO. Neil was smoother and silkier
@@anthonydavella8350 Neil is definitely smoother or better yet gentler and more intricate. Carl always starts off the snare drum. That is his Jazz background like Buddy Rich. It is the jazz standard to base everything off the snare to everything else. Old school style but Carl modernized it. To play at the speeds Carl does with accurate precision of the rudiments takes serious skill and endurance. It is way harder and more physically demanding than what Neil does. i get gased after about 3 minutes of trying to play Carl's stuff. I am not saying Neil is a bad drummer by any means, he is phenomenal and very creative. I am just simply stating the big difference between the 2 and what Palmer does is much harder to do and does take some schooling in jazz to be able to play correctly.
Absolutely amazing I think you will agree 👍
Brilliant drummer all over the years talent gave so much to music can't fault him 👍
Carl Palmer is amazing.
The Best Ever!!!!!!!!!
Even forgetting the greatest drum solo ever you see here!! .... Many people don't know he was very first to cross the analog- digital divide!!! He invented the modern electronic digital drum machine!!! For that alone.... The GOAT.....
Legendary!
Emerson Lake And Palmer what a band i nos you guys amazing from Carlos Portugal
Synth skins an all!!!! Bravo! The epitome of ELP Prog at their best.
Closest to Buddy Rich than any drummer today
ELP , fantastic band.
I see a lot of Buddy Rich in his playing. I'm guessing Buddy inspired many of the really good rock drummers in one way or another. Also rare to see a drummer these days, play strictly standard/conventional grip. Peart has switched back and forth during much of his career.
The great Jazz drummers of the 40's -50's influenced all those guys-e.g. Krupa, Elvin Jones, Louie Bellson, et al..
I believe Carl Palmer is just as good as Buddy Rich extremely talented drummers 👍
Can really see Big Band greats in with the Rock and roll Luv to see him in 1940's time machine needed.
Excellent
The Best drummer
Only because he had Buddy Rich as a mentor.
Buddy Rich is the best any day of the week Pall.
The world’s best drummer alive today...
Anyone know what snare he used here ?
Remo Acousticon. The shells were made of a wood composite, and sounde phenomenal.
I agree light years away from peart also Elp best 3piece band. Ever
GO CARL GO!!!
I always liked Carl's militaristic style. Good man too.
Worked up a sweat just watching this. He is Buddy on steroids!
You worked up a sweat listening to it but Carl didn't, playing it.
Simple.... genial......!!!!!!
When Buddy Rich was asked by Johnny Carson on the tonight show if there was anybody..any musician that he like in contemporary music..he said ELP , he said he made a point to go see them in concert when they came to NY. !!!!
I saw dec 73.msg.74 nj.77 4times..92.on n on.him n buddy my top 2...bonzo for pure stage band sound n thunder.n solos in the mix
One of the top 10 for sure. Up there with Rich, Bonham, Peart, Krupa and Portnoy
I never hear Portnoy's name mentioned much in these lists but yes he's definitely an incredible drummer and up there.
Portnoy's work with Neal Morse and Transatlantic has really gotten me in his camp. I think he's stupendous.
very nice, i like it.
Hyper fast drummer 👏🏻👏🏻
WOW!
A brilliant drummer I think.
Carl Palmer completely dispels the flawed theory that a drummer can’t play a large kit using traditional grip.
“Tank”solo.
Nice.
One of the most underrated drummer of history, for my opinion this is the best second drummer in the human history , the number 1 is John bonnan of course
You may have that a bit backwards, Jesus. And Bonham is only a rock drummer and they"'re everywhere a rock drummer"s supposed to be.
Palmer's better than Bonham.
@@georgevincent1834much much better
You can name your favorite drummer baker bonham peart. But carl palmer is simply better!
As a drummer I was able to understand and duplicate Phil Collins, Chester Thompson, Sib Hashian, even most of Neil Peart.
But in all those years of playing, analyzing using slow motion video and freeze framing, Carl goes to a level that I still cannot comprehend let alone duplicate.
I really think that people who denigrate him or pan him are actually jealous because it just cannot be matched, there's no amount of training that can create what he became, even someone born with above average proficiency is unlikely to be able to do what he does.
yep.
He is closest thing to peart who is the best
Sole Survavor
SURVIVOR !
Carl Palmer 👏👏👏
Apart from which, completely different style of percussion, BR LED his orchestra from the kit, as all great drummers should do, the beat creates the timing for all else. Even Carl took lessons from Buddy in the 60's!
Mito
At 5:10, wtf?!
BEST HANDS THAN NEIL......
Carl Palmer was one of Neil inspiration for drumming, but i dont know if CP is better tho...
@@juanignacioquiroga4379 Even Neil admired Carl and learned and wanted a lot of Carls equipment
@@juanignacioquiroga4379 if you dont know me i know it and i tell you..., to much better hands than neil and also feet....
wonder how Karl would have gone trying Zappa's "black page"?
Frank Zappa was much like Einstein, genius but a nutter and on top of that a dictator. He would’ t have like to play with Zappa’s regime
@@robhaver8704 genius. period. At that level nothing is nutter nor dictator.
Sad too see a hero stuck in a place musically 🥁ing the same solo since the 80s/ Tambourine since the early 70s before he was gifted with his signature stainless steel kit.
Very good drummer! But my favorite is ronnie tutt elvis live drummer
Whoever doesn't admit how great Carl Palmer is are either a John Bonham or a Neil Peart fanboy!
The best since Buddy Rich, but doesn’t need all the gimmicks.
Great without them....he should have learnt that from Buddy Rich.
Well, it is a rock show. 😐
100%
@@skineyemin4276
Why do rock shows need gimmicks..?
Carl is talented enough.
@@roybeckerman9253 So, Sonny Payne did gimmicks when he playing for Count Basie and Mr. Basie hired because that's all he could, I guess. Carl Palmer's a rock drummer; I think you forgot that part. Hey, does Dennis Chambers do gimmicks, because, he's pretty versitile.
@@skineyemin4276
It might appeal to some, just not me..🥁.
Still, a very big fan of both Sonny and Carl.., however, Buddy will always be King to me.
Way better than Neal Peart!
GREAT!!But he ain`t no Buddy Rich!Not even close!Goodnight!
I totally agree, but Carl took lessons from Buddy and imo he did a good job of transferring a basic talent into the showmanship that was ELP and the Prog Rock of the time. In my view no one will ever hold a candle to Buddy, saw him a cpl of times in my youth (I am now 64) and he was just incomparable. What a true pro and bandleader. My Dad introduced me to him from HIS youth, the swing era, and by God i'm so grateful he did.
ruclips.net/video/nxN-wN0LW3o/видео.html
I've seen Buddy Rich and he was great, Carl Palmer is easily as good in my book. Look up his solo at the Arcada theater for further evidence.
Amen to that bro, Buddy was da Maaan!
pls don't put Carl in the same dimension as Buddy R..... you demean yourself sir.
The Best Ever!!!!!!