Man it may not be a "typical" soulsborne game but it's lore is just as interesting and deep as the rest. It's great to see the lore community having new content with potential for tons of videos to come.
Great video! Something else I noticed was that the snake in the hand of the first statue was real, where the second statue's snake was made out of stone. Could the dried viscera belong to the snake the first statue? If so, perhaps it was not just some dead normal snake, but the offspring of a great snake. I wonder then, if the great snake you kill could be the father, protecting the body of its dead child. This would also explain why one had whiskers/fur and the other didn't. One is male and the other one is female. And if the snake in the cave is female, it would probably mate with the only other great snake in the region; thus creating the baby snake that was killed and put on the alter! This would mean that the mother snake is in the cave for a reason, hiding for safety and protecting the heart of her murdered child! Woah!!
also, if you didn't finish the deathblow to papa snake, he will send you to the cave. hinting that he sends you as a snack to his wife/mate/kid/whatever the smaller snake is. Another one. After you get fresh viscera, the snake in the cave is still alive.. which actually kinda confirm that these are 2 different snakes.
So. We have learned that getting married in this world means either going to a freaky ass palace with the grooms turned nobles eating the brides turned warriors or get om nomed. Don't get married in this world. Got it.
Andrew Collins Getting om-nomed isn’t that bad, trying to get Kolapa to om-nom me for weeks, she’s the only one that hasn’t done it :( You can see her with her blue rock in one of my latest videos ^^ #LeechyLove #LoveTheSuck #MakeMeBleed
I think the reason the younger serpent doesnt go out is because the older serpent gave it a lot of trouble or it was scared of competing with it so it lived in there biding its time...
The truly reason Genichiro was gathering power, she wont show up til Sekiro 2 where you find out she is the empress of the West who came to find out who stole some of her divine bloodline and one of her sacred sakura trees
I think it's a second one as well. But I did see it suggested somewhere that the second serpent is actually the other end of the great serpent. That is, it's two-headed with a head at each end. Since we never see the entire serpent I thought this was kind of a neat idea.
The fact that this game is referencing Japanese mythology, to me, adds so much more depth to this game rather than just passively referencing mythological tropes in Europe like they did with Dark Souls. I feel like I'm actually learning something here.
it would also mean there was third serpent because of dried serpent viscera i mean even if they are really powerful i dont think they can live without viscara
I think the “snake shortcut” is interesting because the snake in the valley eats you and transports you to the cave of the younger serpent. The connection from the cave to the Ashina Depths is also interesting because it’s how you get to Mibu Village and eventually to the fountainhead palace. If you consider the theme of marriage in the lore, the snake skip, the path to Mibu, and the snake eyes boss placement, I wonder what else this leads to?
If you don't deliver the second Death blow on the Serpent to acquire the Fresh Fruit it drags you into the cave or tunnel where it's guarding the Dried Fruit
Smoughtown. I think this may be one of the most definitive videos on your channel. I mean ! You thought of Serpent Breeding environments and stuff ! WOW ! This is my new favorite lore channel. Brilliant
So i have a little theory that i wanted to share. So i think that there aren't actually 2 snakes. I think that there is only 1 Serpent that have 2 heads, one on each end of it's body. Some arguments 1: After you stab its eye and look on it while you are in the cave you can see that its running away backwards. ( and i don t think "normal" snake would do that") 2 You never see the end of its boddy 4 After you plunge attack its head its body is laying on the mountain but after a while it dissaperd so i suspect that the "other Half of Snake has pulled it to itself. ( it's not some super serious theory just a random stuff that i have come up with while playing the game over and over again)
Same. On my first playthrough I notice there's 2 snakes cause one had a bloody eye and the other was still alive in the cave after you kill the bloody eye one. But then on my 3rd playthrough after encountering it the first time and stabbing the eye I look back and saw that it always move backward as if something is pulling it. Maybe it's just coincidence that it moves like that but it would be cool for it to be a 2 headed snake at each end
It's true, it did leave in an odd way, that's something that stuck out to me the most because I have quite a bit of experience handling the largest of the constrictors(Reticulated Python) but at the same time it's a very large snake and the terrain that it was in makes sense for it to leave the way it did. In normal circumstances a snake would leave the way you're expecting but due to their anatomy it would've been harder for it to have left that way and much harder for them to animate it since this is a game as more of the snake would have to be exposed and it would require more environment interaction as it it would probably have to move alongside and up the mountain/cliffs. It's also likely that we're only seeing a fraction of the Snake's size, what you could consider just it's neck(I can't describe what I consider to be a neck or a tail, normally, for me atleast, the tail is considered to be everyrhing that's after these 2 little appendages next to their ass/reproductive bits that look like claws that have been left over since becoming what they are today, they use these as a type of foreplay by basically tickling their mate) and if so then that was a perfectly normal retreat. To me, the neck ends around a quarter or maybe half of the way to it's stomach which is probably a bad example since I'm not using any images to show what's what and where.
one thing that I keep finding odd is how Sekiro, despite being shown on multiple occasions to be very religious (probably not out of piety, but rather convention) he nonchalantly murders a supposed divine entity he very likely knows of (being from Ashina). Perhaps he is only devout to Buddha and sees the serpent as a false god?
Well a snake is a snake. Its mostly out to eat him so it's clear that he doesn't have any revence towards it. Sekiro being a buddhist doesnt mean he sees it as a false god. Gods in buddhisim are simply different lifeforms that require enlightement nonetheless, same as other beings. If a god was to be his enemy it would be his enemy.
@@SeafoamBoi Not to mention it's required to kill it and acquire its heart to save his master, whom he is undyingly loyal to. The whole game, after all (except the Shura path), is about following his desire, and the return ending is considered the true ending.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention that if you let the older great white serpent eat you instead of killing it, you end up in the serpent shrine cave. Likely as part of the wedding ceremony.
@@deathserpent9747 well to be fair it’s not like these are normal snakes they could be more intelligent hence why the older one is providing food for the younger one to grow strong first
What’s interesting is that if you don’t do the second deathblow on the serpent it swallows you and suddenly you’re in the snake cave where the dried serpent viscera is.
I'm still looking for a way to kill the second serpent and I was hoping this video would answer that but, sadly. Anyway, very good video none the less.
I tried as well :( I stood in the temple where his body blocks the door and noticed the wall was caving in. If you hit the body it swings out and the back into the frame - I thought it would have opened up the possibility of another passage or way of interacting further. Sadly it just keeps ramming the frame ad infinitum
@@SmoughTown Yeah but, there must be a way, otherwise; what would be the point of keeping it alive? I do know that after a while you can go back and it doesn't block the entrance of the temple even if you pass by it but, I can't figure out how to reach on top of its head for the kill.
there are palanquins elsewhere too that have nothing to do with the snakes. e.g. the palanquin right in front of the shelter stone that clearly is implied to be a portal between the real world and the spirit world
I think the rock divers might be the ghosts of Ashinas ancient past that a lore box talks about. In some religions, spirits inhabit everything, including the ground.
I should remember you that God's in japanese culture are very different of others concepts of gods. Everything can have a god, the god of rice, the god of sake, the god of fishing, the god of land and etc. The great serpent really looks like a god when you think about others japanese gods. And also offering brides to gods was not something seen as a Sacrificial ritual, it was seen more like being Shrine Maidens for their whole lifes.
@@SmoughTown I was recently researching these guys as I thought they were very interesting but had almost no lore whatsoever. My search helped me develop a small theory, so I'm looking forward to seeing what your take on them is. Keep up the good work!
Do you have the characters for the GS’s name in Japanese? Because the translations are pretty interesting, at least to me. I’m making a thing about gods within Sekiro, and so I’m using the names translated from their respective Japanese names. So far, this is what I have: Dragon of Sakura White-wooden Old Men Lion Monkey Guardian Spirit Carp Seeing Monkey, Hearing Monkey, Speaking Monkey
The statue from which you take the dried viscera is bleeding and has a hole were the heart should be. So, the statue was a person, or it's symbolic of something.
So there is a TON of ideas of rebirth in this game, would it be possible that members of the Okami clan can somehow attain "enlightenment" or "ascend" into the form of that snake? I guess that could also explain why the Okami treat them so surely as gods because they are so much more immense and powerful compared to their humanoid looking selves but are not some sort of interdimensional god like the Divine Dragon or Sakura Tree Dragon
Blizzard S Yeah, two headless apes too. I wonder if it’s supposed to be that way, cause the second headless ape won’t appear unless you killed the first one.
I think that there is only one serpent with two heads at both ends cause if you don't kill one snake it eats you and you end up where the "other" snake is.
The fact that we know there are at least two with a possible age difference between them could hint at so many things since the younger one could be it’s mate but since there seems to be an age difference I feel like it’s more likely one of its offspring which could mean that it’s mate is either 1: dead and they are the last 2 or 2: the mate is somewhere else at the moment possibly hiding away to take care of a clutch of eggs which would mean that the species will live on after you are done with these 2
Hey I just spotted something. The snake down by the puppeteer jutsu monkey does indeed have hairs, they only showed up when I was stood pretty close. But I am still with your theory!! There's defo more than one serpent and the poison area is a perfect home for them. :)
Really great video! A recomendation is to edit out when ever you take breaths. Half way through the video there was breaths every other sentance and it killed the pace some what for me. Other than that great video!
And please, someone talk about the ashina samurai spirits and nitjars that emerge from dead bodies of bound up people around sempo temple and gravestones elsewhere after you progress ths story
Last time I said I'd like to see a colab with you and vatty but this is excellence in itself with with jake the ashen hollow. Think you could make a vid with Alex aka silver mont
In hirata estate near anayama there is a house you can eavesdrop. There is a lady talking that sounds a lot like emma. The person she is talking to is maybe the sculptor I think. It can also be Sekiro himself, but I kinda doubt that. What do you think of this?
I've been torn on this tbh - it could just be a random guy, I don't think it's sekiro. Given that someone else in the house next door says you were no where to be seen and so it wouldn't make sense if he was wounded. Yet I cannot deny the character does sound like Emma, and I do think it's possible.
@@SmoughTown In one of the sake conversations with Emma she says that she ones had a difficult patient that didn't talk that much, and she asked Sekiro if he knew that kind of person. So that's why I think it might be the sculptor or Sekiro. But as you already said, It's kinda unbelievable that it is Sekiro.
I don’t think people are clueless that the great snake is actually more than one. Someone had to put the dried viscera on the altar, and they probably noticed another snake slithering about the canyon.it seems more likely that they simply regard all the great serpents as gods.
In the story of Yamata No Orochi. Japanese people would sacrifice there daughters 1 by 1 to please this great 8 headed dragon named Orochi. Maybe this is his 1st form. Snakes are regarded as the 1st stage of a dragon after all.
This could also be some influence but if it was him, all of the heads would age at the same time. I agree more with theory that one is female and the one with wiskers is male
I wonder if the wedding ritual works as a way for the brides to be transported to the poisonous pools to the second shrine wear they are to be fed to the smaller snake or die in the shrine next to it, it would explain why you get sent their if the big snake swsllows you and why we see skeletons and the snake eyes lady past the shrine.
Guys, doesn't the serpent herb memo imply that the snake eyes women went throught that marriage ritual, their locations, to me, also suggests so. Also I'd suggest that the snake is double headead, as in being eaten in the sunken valley plunge spits u out at the cave entrance bellow, e.g. it may be that at what would be the tail end of the snake, another head resides there instead.
When in the gaurdian apes watering hole you can look up to the right (I think) and see the great serpent. Interesting because there's those statues of the giant woman.
I have mixed feelings about there being two great serpents In one hand, it made sense that the serpent still exist after we killed it But on the other hand, it's no longer feel special (to me at least) that there were two great serpent gods. It just like the serpents were just normal animal that happens to be gigantic
@@MrBlitzpunk You know what - I had initially felt the same but go into that cave and look at the darkness below...the possibilities of a God brood below the surface is pretty cool!
So the dried viscera in the ruin means there was 3rd serpent as well which died long ago before story took place and he was replaced by the great serpent we killed so it's like a cycle isn't? But the question is how do these big snakes breed like isn't this problem if both young serpent and older serpent are from same gender wont they get extinct?
Another option is that the snake eyes are the children of the snake, which means the Okami tribe are descendants of dragons that inhabited this area for years. Perhaps this is related to how Kuro received his heritage.
MR SMOUGHTOWN it’s cool to see another video of yours. Something interesting noticed. Outside of The first shrine before the older serpent attacks the bridge there are feathers on the ground on one side of it. There are also feathers around inside the shrine These feathers only seem to be seen one other place and that’s on Owl. Not sure what that connection may be but it seems owl has gotten around lol.
the serpent in the cave DOES in fact have whiskers or hair. it has the same amount as the other serpent, meaning that it is NOT younger. here's proof: ruclips.net/video/TzrqCUtlVB8/видео.html if you look closely or pause the video, you can see the hair. they are still probably different snakes though, but they are probably just as old as each other.
They aren't. Sekiro was based on real life location, on the other hand Soulsborbe was not. It was even mention the name of their world and it was no near ours.
rise4 hercules I think you are incorrect Lo {lower case in the text making it appear like an I} is an archaic term to call attention to something interesting. It isn’t a name - it’s an expression, quite often used in holy texts (e.g the bible). “And LO, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them.”
I really hoped that we could have an actual fight with the snake, because it was presented as a very powerful creature that you should not mess with. Stabbing it in the head twice from a plunging attacks was very disappointing.
“This is the first sign this is a different serpent” Yeah either that or the fact you can kill one of the serpents and this one will still be here 😅 Edit: I typed too fast, you mention this afterwards 😅
Yeah no. Benzaiten is very different from the sunken valley gods. Benzaiten the Buddhist goddess isn’t snake related, but she is in Shintoism. Whereas the sunken valley statues are of Bodhisattvas. Also I wouldn’t say the gun fort shrine snake is being cradled, it’s clearly being held at the neck and dead. My theory is that this Bodhisattva symbolise the monks from Mt. Kongo suppressing the locals who worship Shinto gods.
Also... i don't think Emma is japanese or even asian for that matter... I think she came or was born from a family born on the west... so many theories to discover on this game
Man it may not be a "typical" soulsborne game but it's lore is just as interesting and deep as the rest. It's great to see the lore community having new content with potential for tons of videos to come.
Yeah absolutely, there is still plenty to talk about here
The term soulsborne really still going? May as well call it sekisoulsborne now
Matthew Hyndman i think soulsborne will stick. Because eventually it’ll just get ridiculous especially with elden ring coming out.
@@diavolo1326 haha, true seki souls ring borne
I love Dark Souls but I legitimately find myself even more into the deep lore of this game than almost any other, including Souls
Great video! Something else I noticed was that the snake in the hand of the first statue was real, where the second statue's snake was made out of stone. Could the dried viscera belong to the snake the first statue? If so, perhaps it was not just some dead normal snake, but the offspring of a great snake. I wonder then, if the great snake you kill could be the father, protecting the body of its dead child. This would also explain why one had whiskers/fur and the other didn't. One is male and the other one is female. And if the snake in the cave is female, it would probably mate with the only other great snake in the region; thus creating the baby snake that was killed and put on the alter! This would mean that the mother snake is in the cave for a reason, hiding for safety and protecting the heart of her murdered child! Woah!!
also, if you didn't finish the deathblow to papa snake, he will send you to the cave. hinting that he sends you as a snack to his wife/mate/kid/whatever the smaller snake is.
Another one. After you get fresh viscera, the snake in the cave is still alive.. which actually kinda confirm that these are 2 different snakes.
I was thinking one may be female.
@@justhaidars There's the theory that they're both heads of the same snake.
So. We have learned that getting married in this world means either going to a freaky ass palace with the grooms turned nobles eating the brides turned warriors or get om nomed. Don't get married in this world. Got it.
Not to also mention how you marry Anri in DS3, Fromsoft have a really different idea about marriage lol
Andrew Collins
Getting om-nomed isn’t that bad, trying to get Kolapa to om-nom me for weeks, she’s the only one that hasn’t done it :(
You can see her with her blue rock in one of my latest videos ^^
#LeechyLove
#LoveTheSuck
#MakeMeBleed
Just as well Queen of the Vilebloods turns you down lol
That Palace is beautiful tho
I think the reason the younger serpent doesnt go out is because the older serpent gave it a lot of trouble or it was scared of competing with it so it lived in there biding its time...
The second snake also seems slimmer than the bigger one suggesting an age difference
Defo agree - it just looks 'younger' in general somehow
No one is talking about the old lady who you can talk after Gyobu and the demon of hatred who knew both... who was she?
The truly reason Genichiro was gathering power, she wont show up til Sekiro 2 where you find out she is the empress of the West who came to find out who stole some of her divine bloodline and one of her sacred sakura trees
@@NinjaKiller999 but that's just a theory a GAME THEORY
I think it's a second one as well. But I did see it suggested somewhere that the second serpent is actually the other end of the great serpent. That is, it's two-headed with a head at each end. Since we never see the entire serpent I thought this was kind of a neat idea.
Also if you don't kill the snake it eats you and you arrive where the other snake is I think your idea is 100% true.
The fact that this game is referencing Japanese mythology, to me, adds so much more depth to this game rather than just passively referencing mythological tropes in Europe like they did with Dark Souls. I feel like I'm actually learning something here.
That's a bit unfair since basically all cosmology in Dark Souls is still functionally Eastern while giving the facade of the West.
it would also mean there was third serpent because of dried serpent viscera i mean even if they are really powerful i dont think they can live without viscara
Waiting for this video felt like forever
I think the “snake shortcut” is interesting because the snake in the valley eats you and transports you to the cave of the younger serpent. The connection from the cave to the Ashina Depths is also interesting because it’s how you get to Mibu Village and eventually to the fountainhead palace. If you consider the theme of marriage in the lore, the snake skip, the path to Mibu, and the snake eyes boss placement, I wonder what else this leads to?
oh my gawd that was fast, thank you for honoring my request
Welcome! Hope you enjoy
If you don't deliver the second Death blow on the Serpent to acquire the Fresh Fruit it drags you into the cave or tunnel where it's guarding the Dried Fruit
There are actually 2 serpents
One male and one female
They are connected. 2 heads 1 body. Both ends are heads.
I think it is a child, and the dried one was one of its parents
Smoughtown. I think this may be one of the most definitive videos on your channel.
I mean ! You thought of Serpent Breeding environments and stuff !
WOW !
This is my new favorite lore channel.
Brilliant
Thanks buddy - I really liked this one as well, and loved diving deep into the subject. Really glad you enjoyed the video
So i have a little theory that i wanted to share. So i think that there aren't actually 2 snakes. I think that there is only 1 Serpent that have 2 heads, one on each end of it's body. Some arguments
1: After you stab its eye and look on it while you are in the cave you can see that its running away backwards. ( and i don t think "normal" snake would do that")
2 You never see the end of its boddy
4 After you plunge attack its head its body is laying on the mountain but after a while it dissaperd so i suspect that the "other Half of Snake has pulled it to itself.
( it's not some super serious theory just a random stuff that i have come up with while playing the game over and over again)
Same. On my first playthrough I notice there's 2 snakes cause one had a bloody eye and the other was still alive in the cave after you kill the bloody eye one. But then on my 3rd playthrough after encountering it the first time and stabbing the eye I look back and saw that it always move backward as if something is pulling it. Maybe it's just coincidence that it moves like that but it would be cool for it to be a 2 headed snake at each end
It's true, it did leave in an odd way, that's something that stuck out to me the most because I have quite a bit of experience handling the largest of the constrictors(Reticulated Python) but at the same time it's a very large snake and the terrain that it was in makes sense for it to leave the way it did. In normal circumstances a snake would leave the way you're expecting but due to their anatomy it would've been harder for it to have left that way and much harder for them to animate it since this is a game as more of the snake would have to be exposed and it would require more environment interaction as it it would probably have to move alongside and up the mountain/cliffs. It's also likely that we're only seeing a fraction of the Snake's size, what you could consider just it's neck(I can't describe what I consider to be a neck or a tail, normally, for me atleast, the tail is considered to be everyrhing that's after these 2 little appendages next to their ass/reproductive bits that look like claws that have been left over since becoming what they are today, they use these as a type of foreplay by basically tickling their mate) and if so then that was a perfectly normal retreat. To me, the neck ends around a quarter or maybe half of the way to it's stomach which is probably a bad example since I'm not using any images to show what's what and where.
Their is also some snake skin in mibu village
Tip for people: on your first playthrough, try to get the purification ending and the others later. Owl is a goddamn nightmare in a ng +
I love rewatching your lore videos man. It helps me sleep at night with a story in my head like a fucking kid
one thing that I keep finding odd is how Sekiro, despite being shown on multiple occasions to be very religious (probably not out of piety, but rather convention) he nonchalantly murders a supposed divine entity he very likely knows of (being from Ashina). Perhaps he is only devout to Buddha and sees the serpent as a false god?
Well a snake is a snake. Its mostly out to eat him so it's clear that he doesn't have any revence towards it.
Sekiro being a buddhist doesnt mean he sees it as a false god. Gods in buddhisim are simply different lifeforms that require enlightement nonetheless, same as other beings. If a god was to be his enemy it would be his enemy.
@@SeafoamBoi Not to mention it's required to kill it and acquire its heart to save his master, whom he is undyingly loyal to. The whole game, after all (except the Shura path), is about following his desire, and the return ending is considered the true ending.
@@SeafoamBoi
Sorry, I did not know that buddhist gods were but "another cog in the machine", this way it all makes sense.
@@jacopoarmini7889 not even cogs Buddha is supposed to be a title for those who were enlightened and reached nirvana
I'm surprised that you didn't mention that if you let the older great white serpent eat you instead of killing it, you end up in the serpent shrine cave. Likely as part of the wedding ceremony.
more likely as food for his mate or child as alot of animal kingdom creatures provide this way birds ,lions,etc just my opinion
@@batchagaloopytv5816 snakes dont provide meals for their young
@@deathserpent9747 well to be fair it’s not like these are normal snakes they could be more intelligent hence why the older one is providing food for the younger one to grow strong first
What’s interesting is that if you don’t do the second deathblow on the serpent it swallows you and suddenly you’re in the snake cave where the dried serpent viscera is.
I'm still looking for a way to kill the second serpent and I was hoping this video would answer that but, sadly. Anyway, very good video none the less.
I tried as well :( I stood in the temple where his body blocks the door and noticed the wall was caving in. If you hit the body it swings out and the back into the frame - I thought it would have opened up the possibility of another passage or way of interacting further. Sadly it just keeps ramming the frame ad infinitum
@@SmoughTown Yeah but, there must be a way, otherwise; what would be the point of keeping it alive? I do know that after a while you can go back and it doesn't block the entrance of the temple even if you pass by it but, I can't figure out how to reach on top of its head for the kill.
Keep them coming bro these vids r life
Moataz Metro will do bud
there are palanquins elsewhere too that have nothing to do with the snakes. e.g. the palanquin right in front of the shelter stone that clearly is implied to be a portal between the real world and the spirit world
I think the rock divers might be the ghosts of Ashinas ancient past that a lore box talks about. In some religions, spirits inhabit everything, including the ground.
This was awesome didnt notice there was 2 snakes in the game all along
Where's kratos when you need him
Dee Tee Who needs Kratos when you got Sekiro.
I should remember you that God's in japanese culture are very different of others concepts of gods. Everything can have a god, the god of rice, the god of sake, the god of fishing, the god of land and etc. The great serpent really looks like a god when you think about others japanese gods. And also offering brides to gods was not something seen as a Sacrificial ritual, it was seen more like being Shrine Maidens for their whole lifes.
Well what do we know, maybe the skeletons in the sunken Valley temple are actually ppl who gave themselves as brides
Next you should do a theory about the shishment warrior
;)
SmoughTown then I’ll be waiting. Love your work
@@awesomethegreatamazing2651 Thanks friend :)
@@SmoughTown I was recently researching these guys as I thought they were very interesting but had almost no lore whatsoever. My search helped me develop a small theory, so I'm looking forward to seeing what your take on them is. Keep up the good work!
@@playmsbk I can't wait to hear your thoughts on my theories :)
love your lore videos, always do good research and make good educated guesses
Thanks buddy :) I try my best to do good research for these subjects
We don't even neede a Vatti when we have you. You are even better than him! Just keep up, dude! You do amazing work!
InuY@$H@ thanks friend :D that’s kind of you to say
this is the strangest whitesnake album review I've ever watched
Been waiting for this xD
Awesome collab guys. 😄
Glad you liked it!
Another interesting sekiro lore video it's really cool to know that their that there is more then 1 serpent
The snake in the cave is smaller than the one roaming the surface
Does anyone remember what hiruzren told orochimaru bout the white serpent
That it represents new life??I think.
Do you have the characters for the GS’s name in Japanese? Because the translations are pretty interesting, at least to me. I’m making a thing about gods within Sekiro, and so I’m using the names translated from their respective Japanese names. So far, this is what I have:
Dragon of Sakura
White-wooden Old Men
Lion Monkey
Guardian Spirit Carp
Seeing Monkey, Hearing Monkey, Speaking Monkey
The statue from which you take the dried viscera is bleeding and has a hole were the heart should be. So, the statue was a person, or it's symbolic of something.
There's also a Great serpent in Norse mythology Jörmungandr
Already appeared in God of war 4.
@@monostan645 Which also has a beard.
@@feckadoodlethe2nd that was moss actually.
In my country we call it "Gulla'ru"
Wow my favourite loretubers
Have you deliberately not hit the second death blow on the older serpent. Because if you don't something special happens.
Awesome lore videos my friend thank you.
Thanks bud, glad you enjoyed!
Oh dang! I never picked up there were two different serpents!
Time for another one😈
:D
So there is a TON of ideas of rebirth in this game, would it be possible that members of the Okami clan can somehow attain "enlightenment" or "ascend" into the form of that snake? I guess that could also explain why the Okami treat them so surely as gods because they are so much more immense and powerful compared to their humanoid looking selves but are not some sort of interdimensional god like the Divine Dragon or Sakura Tree Dragon
There’s 2 serpents, let that sink in...
2 GIGANTIC SERPENTS
Blizzard S Yeah, two headless apes too. I wonder if it’s supposed to be that way, cause the second headless ape won’t appear unless you killed the first one.
@@Carlito_Brigante The first headless ape & the 2nd are the same.
Love you both
It's really jarring to hear two different pronunciations in the SAME video. Well at least only one of them was wrong. Still a great video.
I think that there is only one serpent with two heads at both ends cause if you don't kill one snake it eats you and you end up where the "other" snake is.
The fact that we know there are at least two with a possible age difference between them could hint at so many things since the younger one could be it’s mate but since there seems to be an age difference I feel like it’s more likely one of its offspring which could mean that it’s mate is either 1: dead and they are the last 2 or 2: the mate is somewhere else at the moment possibly hiding away to take care of a clutch of eggs which would mean that the species will live on after you are done with these 2
TIL that are two great snakes
Hey I just spotted something. The snake down by the puppeteer jutsu monkey does indeed have hairs, they only showed up when I was stood pretty close. But I am still with your theory!! There's defo more than one serpent and the poison area is a perfect home for them. :)
Really great video!
A recomendation is to edit out when ever you take breaths. Half way through the video there was breaths every other sentance and it killed the pace some what for me. Other than that great video!
Anybody knows why in sekiro there are so many one-armed characters? And all of them have no left hand just like main character, Sekiro
Maybe but, why dragon doesn’t has hand as well
Old man Isshin has a thing for cutting arms off...
And please, someone talk about the ashina samurai spirits and nitjars that emerge from dead bodies of bound up people around sempo temple and gravestones elsewhere after you progress ths story
That is called twilight. If I recall correctly they are vengeful spirits that roam during the night. This is explained in one of the loading screens.
Huge snake super tiny heart. That thing should be bigger then sekiro
Last time I said I'd like to see a colab with you and vatty but this is excellence in itself with with jake the ashen hollow. Think you could make a vid with Alex aka silver mont
Perfect timing to get on youtube!
In hirata estate near anayama there is a house you can eavesdrop. There is a lady talking that sounds a lot like emma. The person she is talking to is maybe the sculptor I think. It can also be Sekiro himself, but I kinda doubt that. What do you think of this?
I've been torn on this tbh - it could just be a random guy, I don't think it's sekiro. Given that someone else in the house next door says you were no where to be seen and so it wouldn't make sense if he was wounded. Yet I cannot deny the character does sound like Emma, and I do think it's possible.
@@SmoughTown In one of the sake conversations with Emma she says that she ones had a difficult patient that didn't talk that much, and she asked Sekiro if he knew that kind of person. So that's why I think it might be the sculptor or Sekiro. But as you already said, It's kinda unbelievable that it is Sekiro.
All any one needs know is that it's a big sneaky snek
I don’t think people are clueless that the great snake is actually more than one. Someone had to put the dried viscera on the altar, and they probably noticed another snake slithering about the canyon.it seems more likely that they simply regard all the great serpents as gods.
In the story of Yamata No Orochi. Japanese people would sacrifice there daughters 1 by 1 to please this great 8 headed dragon named Orochi. Maybe this is his 1st form. Snakes are regarded as the 1st stage of a dragon after all.
This could also be some influence but if it was him, all of the heads would age at the same time. I agree more with theory that one is female and the one with wiskers is male
I wonder if the wedding ritual works as a way for the brides to be transported to the poisonous pools to the second shrine wear they are to be fed to the smaller snake or die in the shrine next to it, it would explain why you get sent their if the big snake swsllows you and why we see skeletons and the snake eyes lady past the shrine.
Guys, doesn't the serpent herb memo imply that the snake eyes women went throught that marriage ritual, their locations, to me, also suggests so. Also I'd suggest that the snake is double headead, as in being eaten in the sunken valley plunge spits u out at the cave entrance bellow, e.g. it may be that at what would be the tail end of the snake, another head resides there instead.
Video with vati next please
Samster86 I’ll message him
Your mic is awesome
When in the gaurdian apes watering hole you can look up to the right (I think) and see the great serpent. Interesting because there's those statues of the giant woman.
I thought the serpent being in the cave after we killed it is a sequence break glitch
So did I, but I did it a few times, and then I also looked at the details. It looks different and most notably it doesn't have the wounded eye
I have mixed feelings about there being two great serpents
In one hand, it made sense that the serpent still exist after we killed it
But on the other hand, it's no longer feel special (to me at least) that there were two great serpent gods. It just like the serpents were just normal animal that happens to be gigantic
@@MrBlitzpunk You know what - I had initially felt the same but go into that cave and look at the darkness below...the possibilities of a God brood below the surface is pretty cool!
Aparently there is 2 great serpents in the game..
If you look at the snake skin on the one statue it looks very small like a normal snake 🐍
So the dried viscera in the ruin means there was 3rd serpent as well which died long ago before story took place and he was replaced by the great serpent we killed so it's like a cycle isn't? But the question is how do these big snakes breed like isn't this problem if both young serpent and older serpent are from same gender wont they get extinct?
Must be something bigger down there
yeah jake... i LOVE this new souls lore... i hope the dlc comes with a bit more.
Holy souls! Never expected to see an fellow Soulsborne gamer & lore researcher.
Another option is that the snake eyes are the children of the snake, which means the Okami tribe are descendants of dragons that inhabited this area for years. Perhaps this is related to how Kuro received his heritage.
There is snake skin on Mibu villager houses
Play as Orichimaru in Sekiro 😮
That was titana boa
MR SMOUGHTOWN it’s cool to see another video of yours.
Something interesting noticed. Outside of The first shrine before the older serpent attacks the bridge there are feathers on the ground on one side of it.
There are also feathers around inside the shrine
These feathers only seem to be seen one other place and that’s on Owl. Not sure what that connection may be but it seems owl has gotten around lol.
Hmmm - I love environmental details - so I will need to check that out! Thanks bud :)
Snek
I never even considered the two snakes were the same. We are not that dumb, dude.
Great serpent vs World serpent, who wins
Oh and impressed you got jake on this. He’s a bit of a Sekiro hater 😂
how much did you fine tge shrine 🤔was it monetary or more of a psychological fine 🤣🤣🤓 love your guys work great job both keep pluggin
the serpent in the cave DOES in fact have whiskers or hair. it has the same amount as the other serpent, meaning that it is NOT younger. here's proof: ruclips.net/video/TzrqCUtlVB8/видео.html
if you look closely or pause the video, you can see the hair.
they are still probably different snakes though, but they are probably just as old as each other.
Could you do a video on the connections between Sekiro and the SoulsBourne games
They aren't. Sekiro was based on real life location, on the other hand Soulsborbe was not. It was even mention the name of their world and it was no near ours.
Isn’t the goddess he’s talking about actually statues of Buddha
You say that these ppl are not ghosts, have you tried divine confetti on them? Cause I have not.
The first statue with serpent,with close eyes,amidabha,with open eyes only buddha can be,second statue with open eyes,falls prophet
The name in the beginning is wrong, it's not Lo it's Io sorry too Tell you man. No hate
rise4 hercules I think you are incorrect Lo {lower case in the text making it appear like an I} is an archaic term to call attention to something interesting. It isn’t a name - it’s an expression, quite often used in holy texts (e.g the bible). “And LO, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them.”
Damn i'm sorry for the mistake. That clears alot thanks.
@@SmoughTown you know you're stuff. Great job btw
rise4 hercules thanks buddy! Glad you enjoy :)
I really hoped that we could have an actual fight with the snake, because it was presented as a very powerful creature that you should not mess with. Stabbing it in the head twice from a plunging attacks was very disappointing.
“This is the first sign this is a different serpent”
Yeah either that or the fact you can kill one of the serpents and this one will still be here 😅
Edit: I typed too fast, you mention this afterwards 😅
Yeah no. Benzaiten is very different from the sunken valley gods. Benzaiten the Buddhist goddess isn’t snake related, but she is in Shintoism.
Whereas the sunken valley statues are of Bodhisattvas.
Also I wouldn’t say the gun fort shrine snake is being cradled, it’s clearly being held at the neck and dead.
My theory is that this Bodhisattva symbolise the monks from Mt. Kongo suppressing the locals who worship Shinto gods.
Is the first snake statue the same state as the one in the sister friede boss room
12:00 why do I hear Gehrmans soundtrack on the background?
Also... i don't think Emma is japanese or even asian for that matter... I think she came or was born from a family born on the west... so many theories to discover on this game
I still haven't found any use for both dry and fresh fruit. What are those for? Does anyone know what they are for?
They are used to unlock a secret ending
big snake
You sound like hawk-eye from the last of the mohicans, esspecially when you say serpent.
What is your accent scottish?