Sekiro Lore | The Schemes of the Interior Ministry (w/ Creeepling)
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- [Spoilers contained within] In the next of my Sekiro Lore videos, myself and Creeepling will be discussing the Plots of the Interior Ministry, as well as the players at Hirata Estate and their individual motivations.
Why are the 'Shadows' present at Hirata? Why do they attack the castle with Owl? What is Lady Butterfly's game?
All of these questions and more will be answered.
----- Check out Creeepling here:
/ @creeepling
Please subscribe for more future Sekiro Lore content!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Production Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound: www.epidemicsou...;
Soundtrack also contains tracks from the OST of Sekiro, & Dark Souls 3. All rights to FromSoftware
Outro Song written for me by @gmoraesguitar (Instagram)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MORE SEKIRO LORE CONTENT -
The Apparitions of Ashina: • Sekiro Lore | The Appa...
Rope Man Theory: www.youtube.co....
Lady Tomoe: www.youtube.co....
The Divine Dragon: www.youtube.co....
The Demon of Hatred: www.youtube.co....
The Divine Children of the Rejuvenating waters: www.youtube.co....
The Guardian Ape: www.youtube.co....
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I believe I have used all content under fair use.
Follow me on Twitter and Instagram: SmoughTown
#Sekiro #Interiorministry #Owl
![Sekiro Lore | The Apparitions of Ashina [O'Rin, The Headless & Shichimen Warriors]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3RKV9BBWOfc/mqdefault.jpg)
![Sekiro Lore | The Apparitions of Ashina [O'Rin, The Headless & Shichimen Warriors]](/img/tr.png)
![MISSING: SLIM SHADY [Expanded Mourner’s Edition Trailer]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/xh8qgHrOO1g/mqdefault.jpg)
Owl puts on such a show of being this great, commanding, larger than life shinobi, but at the end of the day, even Juzou sees him for the petty, selfish snake he is. When you've got Juzou the goddamn Drunkard of all people saying you come off as a criminal and a degenerate, you know you fucked up somewhere along the way
yea owl is probably the biggest asshole in fromsoft games, right next to pontiff sulyvahn
Don't forget Gwynn, he's an asshole too.
What’s wrong with Gwynn?
Jewgoo I wouldn’t say Gwynn is an evil character, but he let fear take over his mind and ultimately became extremely selfish and paranoid. He stopped caring about the greater good of his own people and his own royal family just because he was terrified of his perfect world coming to an end. For a god, he’s an entirely human character with real motivations
@@Jewgoo uh, you do know that the Age of Dark, as in the age of mankind, was supposed to proceed after the age of fire right? Only Gwynn repeatedly extended the Age of Fire far beyond its expiration date and forced mankind to willingly link the fire for him and become hollows. When you say praise the sun, you are basically saying you are proud to be Gwynn's slave. But not even his fire could last forever after linking the fire so much and he's hollow by the time you meet him in Dark Souls 1. In every Dark Souls where you snuff out the Flame, you are making the objectively right choice. It even extends to the Dark Souls 3 where the Royal Family gave the pygmy kings (i.e ancient humans) the Ringed City to distract them from the fact that they were screwing them over by linking the fire again.
You forgot about the biggest offender to Ashina Clan: Us.
We are the ones who killed Gyoubu, their first line of defense, and opened the gate to Ashina, both literally and figuratively.
We are the ones who defeated Genichiro, their commander.
We are the ones who murdered hundreds of their soldiers, generals, samurais, ninjas, even bulls and fucking ogres.
And we are the ones who weakened their people, by refusing to die and infecting everyone with dragonrot.
And hudreds of samurai in the antechamber idol
Yah but in our defense ... isshin prefers us to his grandson
@@sealdogderp26 in his defense, genichiro is a bitch
I was going to comment on this myself, I thought that genichiro was working with the ministry at first because I didn't understand why else they'd be attacking Sekiro. I understand now why that was but I thought after first speaking with issin he'd tell the ashina that you're on their side at least, since their interference just weakens ashina's forces spent fighting a shinobi that's on their side. Gameplay wise it makes perfect sense that enemies would remain enemies, but ashina's at risk of falling and they can't afford wasting all of the anti-ministry personnel on a single shinobi.
Gyobu? The dude that goes at you with his horse to protect Genichiro, Genichiro, the dude that cut your arm while protecting your lord, I think is more Genichiros fault than Sekiros.
I gotta say, that giant sword kinda sells Owl out when he stabs Sekiro
Y. Ahriman honestly wish he used a hidden blade.
But its a discrete ninja weapon, as easy to hide as an elephant.
@@KaiserAfini
well, I bet Owl is a monster at sneaking in tiny places and hiding in the shadows, especially with 200 kg of hair discreetly flowing behind him.
@Pinkaugust
I meant that for us, the players, it's rather easy to recognize that giant sword, mostly because Owl is the only one who can wield such a beast of a blade. I don't know about Sekiro, he isn't super bright in the first place and very likely didn't spend too much time pondering about it while being stabbed.
Y. Ahriman There also is the line, “The same could be said of you. I was certain you died that night,” Wolf died and was resurrected quickly after. The only way Owl would’ve known is if he was there.
My theory is that Lady Butterfly is actually protecting Kuro from Owl. Butterfly knew Owl was making his move. Butterfly is assuming that you are helping Owl, and Sekiro is assuming Lady Butterfly is who kidnapped Kuro. Butterfly could have applied an illusion technique to Kuro to numb the trauma as she knew he couldn't die but would still suffer. A sort of mercy before the burning building came down on them.
I like this theory a lot
@@Bobobo-bo-bo-bobobo thanks! Lady Butterfly really had no other apparent motive. So sad just a case of poor communication.
But she is in possession of the Sakura Droplet which only appears when an immortal oath fails. This leads me to believe that both were trying to gain immortality while being independent from each other
@@karvenman that's a good point, though I always thought that came from her not fulfilling her oath to successfully defend Kuro. Great characters either way! Love this game!
@@karvenmanIt's said to be from Takeru.
Whatever it is, it isn't from Kuro, nor anything she attempted on Kuro. It is an indication of a broken oath..
The question is, who broke it?
He refers to Tengu/Isshin as the demon who cannot die. He mistakes you for Tengu who killed the other shadows.
But, in Sekiro's cell, the Lone Shadow Longswordsman is there because he heard a rumor that the inhabitant could not die. Unless they think Tengu has immortality for some reason they are probably referring to Sekiro when mentioning the demon. I do think they mistake Sekiro for the one that killed the Interior Ministry shinobi though.
@@aphidamas1 no the guy in the well was simply looking for a good fight and heard of an immortal who lost his will, how you made the connection of this and the other lone shadow calling the tengu a demon is fascinating tbh, good on you.
Two different warriors calls two different people a demon for two different reasons. The one at the serpent shrine calls Tengu a demon, the one in the well calls Sekiro a demon.
Nothing suggests that they think Tengu and Sekiro are the same.
Tengu is called a demon because one must be a demon to be powerful enough to kill a lone shadow warrior (and they've heard rumors of Tengu killing spies).
Meanwhile Sekiro is referred to as a demon because he can't die (because Owl told them about Sekiro in the well)
I thought by demon , Masanaga was referring to Isshin, who could kill so many of them
Tengus are also considered a demon in some facets of Buddhism.
I thought he was referring to Isshin to not sekiro
Pretty sure he was but he figured since we were so close we were the demon but I'm reality ot was isshin who killed him
Wasn't that body there where Isshin was before? Pretty sure it was implied that it was Isshin who killed him.
Yeah he was
Just a side note: (spoiler alert!) Usui's forest is Owl's. His name is Ukonzaemon Usui, which is revealed at shura ending.
Usui is his first name, the Japanese order of the names is reversed in sentences compared to English.
That's just speculation bro... he shares his name with the forest... perhaps he changed his name to honor the forest or maybe it's his... we do not know for sure
Maybe he was named after the forest. Either way the name is not a coincidence. Owl does have some sort of connection with that forest
@@buffoonustroglodytus4688 owl and lady butterfly both lived in that forest
I need to point out a thing, when we meet father he seems surprised that we are alive, so I think that the ministry knows about wolf in the pit by gathering info on the Ashina soldiers, as we see in the beginning the samurai talking to the soldier about the "broken shinobi with no weapon".
He talks about a he, but it can be just an informant of the ministry, not actually father himself... Or it can be even Jinzaemon who tells about us since he's in the entrance, right before the Shadow.
aren't they talking about Sekiro himself?
Yes, they are. They refer to sekiro like this because of how bad he was because of his broken spirit, and hearing this the Shadow came to kill him.
Masatsuna's seventeen born are most likely from having multiple wives, not adopted children. Multiple wives in order to have many children was very common back then. So many of them are probably half-brothers.
Yet almost every young main character in the story is adopted (Sekiro, Emma, Genichiro, and I guess Kuro)
@@pythonking16.59 probably due to the war to free Ashina, I imagine war produces a lot of orphans. While the interior ministry might have not had such a conflict recently
@@kamprouristheoharis8458 Except they were the ones who initiated said conflict. Lord Tamura was their guy.
They could've picked just as many orphans as the Ashina did; God knows Tamura wasn't picky. You read the Hanbei manga before?
Why is Isshin totally chill with you when you're going around slaughtering his men? lol
Because he's old, sick and his grandson is an heretical asshole.
Do he doesn't give a fuck.
because he knows you're also killing his enemies, because anyone who falls *may be* considered "weak" to ishinn, who has a soft spot for sekiro because he reminds of sekijo, the sculptor, who was also an incredibly strong one armed shinobi that fought and then served under ishinn. ishinn also seems to be rather "hands off" in this stage of his life, allowing genichiro to take charge, even though ishinn disagrees with his methods. knowing that sekiro may be the only one who can stop genichiro may also play some factor in this. the inner conflict of seeing his adopted grandson become a demon vs seeing the destruction of his clan and legacy may also play a part, ishinn seems content to let the cards fall where they may regarding all these moving pieces.
I think Owl's plan was to manipulate Kuro into giving Sekiro the power of resurrection, then using Sekiro as a tool to gain power and influence. He might want immortality as well but he never states that outright.
Maybe, but to me, it's more likely that he was trying to get it for himself at first and then backed on Sekiro. I'm not convinced Lady Butterflies betrayed Owl. He needed somebody to wear the responsability for the betrayal, when he meets Kuro 3 years after Hirrata, he tries to make him believe he's only here to save him from Ashina, which could only have worked if somebody else was proven to be responsible for the betrayal that led to the sack of the estate, Lady Butterflies was the perfect one for this.
Just see how the setting is perfect in Hirata estate to lead Kuro to give the blood to Owl: Owl dies, he needs to be reborn, Sekiro is taken by Lady Butterflies, and tells Kuro "do what must be done", meaning "share your power or we're done". At the time, the logical option for Kuro is to revive Owl with the Dragon's blood, hoping he will save them!
But something goes wrong. That is, Sekiro is stronger than they believed, and kills Lady Butterflies. From this moment, Kuro has no longer reasons to share his power since Sekiro has won. So Owl kills him, and lets Kuro revive him. With this, he doesn't get the Dragon's blood, but can hope to have somebody with the Dragon's blood under his orders. Better than nothing.
That's the way I see it, but it's the kind of moment in which From Soft are like: "believe what's the most likely".
Damned the story in Sekiro is quite brilliant, can't wait for the dlc.
What about Wolf unwittingly taking critical pieces of Ashinas defenses before the attack? Gyobu stops you passing the castle gates.... as well as the Ministry, now hes gone. You also meet the Tengu having slain several ministry "rats" no doubt he wouldnt have needed to appear and deal with them if Gyobu were still around... was Lord Isshin even aware that it was Wolf who killed them or did he think the Ministry was succeeding in their attacks? which is why Genichiro became frantic, and the sickened Isshin needed to come out as the Tengu once more. Seven Spears, and the Ashina Elite in the Dojo would have been a valuable defence as well but now they are all dead because they stood between Wolf and his Lord, but the Ministry benefited greatly from Wolfs work, he was a loyal vassal and unwitting vanguard.
Honestly is all genichiros fault if he wasn’t a dick in the beginning maybe Kuro and Sekiro would help defend Ashina instead of killing and destroying all the defences and basically opening the door to the ministry
Isshin knew everything Sekiro was doing. He knew that he’d defeated the general guarding the gate, as did the elderly lady near him. He sent him to hunt rats as a test.
Sekiro and Lady Emma only met because Isshin ordered her to care for and help him. Helping him included killing Genichiro if it came to it.
I don’t think Isshin cared about the fate of Ashina or its people. He won his original victory against the Interior Ministry and that was good enough for him. Had he taken care of it like a proper lord, he would have had a vastly superior number of fully outfitted samurai warriors, not just grunts. And, when his days were at their end, he was fine with seeing it fall.
Genichiro, on the other hand, was running around trying to find magical solutions rather than trying to make alliances with other clans, equipping his men, fortifying the castle so as to make entry too difficult, or allying himself with Sekiro? He could have rallied the gunners from the Sunken Valley to counter the flamethrowers and gunmen. He saw how Sekiro took down his best generals, so why not stop antagonizing him and get him on your side? He wasn’t the man his grandfather was in that Isshin could spot talent even in foes and bring them on his side. He also didn’t learn from what Tomoe or understand that she wanted the mortal blade for her lord, not to save Ashina. It’s his fault for playing this all wrong.
I let the lone shadow fight the general multiple times and each time the lone Shadow won
Sometimes the general goes all "this is Sparta!" and boots the shadow right into the water for an instant KO.
AB shalom They have the exact same moveset as the General minibosses, while the Ashina Elite have their own unique moves. Also, the official game guide refers to them as “samurai generals”, while the non-boss robed samurai are called “fencers” instead.
@AB shalom To be more specific, I think it's sort of implied that the non-boss armored samurai at the very least all command at least some authority over the ashigaru, even if most of them would technically hold a lower rank than "general" (though I'd say the Seven Ashina Spears would technically be generals too, considering that the final prayer necklace describes them as basically being Ashina's greatest samurai). "General" is just kind of a useful shorthand to denote their apparent role as commanders and to differentiate them from the blue-robed samurai (the same way you refer to the latter as "Ashina Elite", even though that term seems to technically only apply to the mini-bosses with their fancy double-slash Iaijutsu techniques).
Man I've seen the shadow kick the "general" into the water, I lol'ed so hard.
@AB shalom Somehow I forgot about your reply, but Jinzaemon has the exact same moveset as the generals.
late comment, but the 17 lone shadows are most likely based on Hatori Hanzo, nicknamed Hanzo the Demon, real name Hattori Masanari, who is regarded as the most famous ninja/shinobi in Japanese history. He serves Tokugawa Ieyasu whose army serves as the basis for the Interior Ministry. His brother is called Masashige, and his son is also called Masanari . Hence the Masa- name shared among the lone shadows.
Seeing a Loneshadow vs Nightjar duel made me pity the Nightjar, even though I'd died to his colleagues dozens of times
21:38 funnily enough I have actually seen a time where the Ashina spear soldier won against the dual katana red guard
3:38 Fun fact. If you let that “Ministry Agent” fight the “bald Shenobi hunter spear man” on the other side of the bridge instead of the General, the Lone Shadow actually loses.
Well, lone shadow is, after all, Shinobi
Yeah, I doubt Masanaga was referring to Sekiro as the demon. He most likely meant Isshin/ Tengu who killed his bro Masanari. That aside, very good video - informative and nicely structred.
If there is a dlc, I feel the ministry will be the main focus
Lord Sauron I hope we get 2 dlc. Ministry and tomoe. They have the true ending hinting at a sequel in the west.
This game is so fucking good my bruddas there has to be dlc
@@ghadaeldabah4490 I was thinking the same. Dragon's Return leaves it wide open for a sequel, I fucking hope so.
You can kiss goodbye that DLC.
George Balint but if there isn’t a sequel I’ll die inside.
funny enough Sekiro contributes more to the fall of the Ashina clan than Owl or the Interior Ministry ever could. He personally kills Gyobu, the Raging Bull, and the Chained Ogre (all who were there to defend the castle gates) then opens the castle gates himself. After that, he then goes on to defeat Genichirou, the leader of Ashina's army. Not to mention he kills off several Ashina Generals and Seven Spears along with hundreds of foot soldiers and Nightjar Ninjas, softening up Ashina castle far more than just losing the manpower of the Hirata clan.
Sekiro: *kills 80% of Ashina’s forces because of Genichiro stealing Kuro*
Isshin: “Let’s have some sake!!”
Very cool to see you colab with Creepling!
You have to remember there are also two other shinobi hunters covering the back entrance to the Hirata estate, past the bandits at the well entrance.
What if there is another secret ending if we kill everyone towards the end of the game, all the shadows and red clan people. There must be something that comes up. We are the reason they can attack so easily, what if the game offers us a chance at retribution ?
You guys should collaborate more ! This was awesome !
Out of all Lone Shadows, Jinzaemon the one who's unmasked in the Ashina Resevoir is the passive and interesting one.
JInzaemon is a samurai tasked to patrol the reservoir, not a lone shadow
Are you being serious
the lone shadow is under him
I've let that lone Shadow fight that general a bunch of times and the general never won
When I watched them fight the lone shadow won by kicking the general into the moat where he drowned in his heavy armor.
@@filiecs3 yeah I've seen that a couple times but usually he just out damages the general. The only time the general won was when I got the spear monk to come follow me and they beat him up real good
@@sablemae8853 I've seen the spear monk beat the ninja super fast (i took on the ashina general to see if the monk could kill the ninja)
@@dilospino yeah he knocks him down with those thrust attacks. I guess long shadows don't have mikiri counter lol
@@dilospino Makes sense since the spear guy is a misen monk who are known to be shinobi hunters. He even drops a gokan's sugar to confirm that he is a misen monk.
In the second memory the first Lone Shadow Mini Boss we encounter is surprised Sekiro is still alive and says he will just finish the job now instead. Also the weapon we got stabbed with looks very similar to the ones the lone shadows wield. I think he got the order from Owl to stab us in the first memory when Kuro resurrects sekiro afterwards that adds to the fact the ministry thinks he is a non dying demon. The demon part could also be Isshin as Tengu who knows but I hope we will figure it out after DLC
FewChange this could also explain why it seems like Kuro doesn’t know that Owl was behind Hirata. It would make sense he wouldn’t want to do it personally, too risky, might expose his true intentions, and he needed to fake his death convincingly.
No owl is the one that stabs you in the back
Never has the story of Sekiro made more sense than this. Incredible.
Collab with vaati! That would be great!
That's just what I wanted. Two great lore channels collaborating and making longer lore videos.
Aces !
Aces !
Making myself some popcorn before watching this.
What if lady butterfly just tried to protect the divine heir?
Holy crap maybe your right she thought maybe sekiro betrayed due to his disappearance
The Sakura Droplet says "Pale pink crystal residue known to form when an immortal oath fails to establish" and it drops from Lady Butterfly, implying she attempted to get Kuro to grant her the Immortal Oath (likely using the illusion technique he's under) but failed because he has to make the connection willingly.
Also if she's protecting Kuro, why would the blind guy who give you the snap seed have to fight her? He wants to protect Kuro too. The only likely reason would be that she wanted Kuro for herself, that's why she didn't seem to be on either side (Owl's or the Hirata retainers')
Plus kuro was under gen jutsu or something doubt it
andrew fowler well you’d maybe think that appeasing a child whose house and family re being destroyed is a good idea :)
However I do agree that butterfly did’t actually care for kuro, proof being the blind guy outside
While I love your Elden Ring videos I'm happy they made me want to watch your Sekiro videos because they go really far in depth and are still well made even 3 years ago.
Genichiro was the man for the Job but he was distracted by a side course which itself was not completely bad... Judging the odds and betrayal... He would need true immortality to be able to defend ashina in the same calibre as a mortal ishin...
Sekiro had a weakness in form of honor, the iron rule and a close 2nd to it... Which defending kuro's interests at all costs is actually the ultimate representation of the iron rule because becoming the retainer of kuro is also an instruction from his father that preceeds other instruction in that dame line his father gave(wether they be for selfish reasons or due to dedication to an external course) including the 1st iron rule...
Going against kuro's interest would actually be a voilatiin of the iron rule.
After all being said if kuro had supported genichiro. And ishin had ordered ashina and genichiro to not be hostile towards sekiro, then despite Owl's betrayal of ashina, ashina would have come out victorious against the ministry against all odds and judging by the fact that genichiro has a trick up his sleeve to revive a younger ishin, ashina would have been able to even launch a counter offense against the ministry and destroyed all of the ministry's shadow entities they were using to unite japan and in the end even break the relentlessness of the ministry...
Lady butterfly, appointed as sekiro's teacher was probably supposed to succeed in killing sekiro, and owl mopped up. The expectation of loyalty among shinobi ties, as well as owls ability to call on her suggest this as well. As to why, perhaps to orchestrate a "loyalty event" such as how sekiro obtained the heritage
"Look kuro, I killed partner/lover in defense of you" type thing quickly turned into now I have to kill my son and the bandit attacks continually progressed. Gotta go
About time for a cross over, both of you have been pouring out lore from this game with next to no stop since it came out.
but the question I'm looking for is, what is the ministry? the Tokugawa family? some sort of Japan's main ministry of some Shogun? what is it?
i want to know too
@@fernandaarmas1004 If it follows history the tokugawa were the shogunate which unified japan under one rule. And since ashina seems to have western forces, a black samurai and other aspects related to the famous nobunaga then yeah the ministry is basically Tokugawa.
🙌wahoo! Happy Friday to us!
Now I think owl kills us knowing kuro would save us so that we would get closer to kuro and come back at the right time to turn us against kuro. That's the only thing that makes sense to me. Because it makes no sense for owl to kill us and not take kuro right then. Was kuro still under the illusion technique when owl killed us? It just seems like owls whole plan was to turn us when he showed up again thinking he could become immortal with us the same but stay his master
I think kuro may have hidden from owl
@@sealdogderp26 he may have. But he was still under illusion technique and at the time the room hadn't fell apart until after the stabbing. There's one way in and one way out. If we could've seen where kuro went during the fight against lady butterfly it would clear some things up. It fits owls character to have others including wolf do his dirty work while he lays low. He did say he thought we were dead but that could've been a lie. I could see either scenario being the truth.
@@sablemae8853 was he under the illusion technique ? I think sekiro snapped him out of it
@@sealdogderp26 I don't think snapping him out of it by clapping hands works completely. It might have helped though. But he still seemed out of it to me. As far as we know snapseeds are the only thing that gets rid of illusions
@@sablemae8853 I think it's just really assuming since their is no defining thing for either argument
When the interior ministry is all the time behind attack on Hirata, how did Kuro end up in Genichiro hands? And what are we doing in the cave near Ashina Castle?
the lone shadow warriors, agents of the ministery, were surrounding the pallace of hirata after sekiro entered. kuro probably found out some exit or he got trapped below the debree and the ministery got away when they discovered the ashina's forces were getting there. genichiro found kuro and saw the attack as an attempt against the divine heir, so genichiro locked kuro to prevent that the ministery would get him. sekiro probably ended in that cave because he was labored as an faliure or even an traitor because of the attack. one of the guys in hirata accused sekiro of orchestratind everything, ots not impossibe taht other people tought the same.
@@EduardoTorelly So sekiro was sleeping for 3 years ?
And what happened during those years?
@@raxitgohel2999 war, otherwise where did those corpses on gyobu's battlefield came from?
@@EduardoTorelly if there was a war it would have been easy for Sekiro to retrieve Kuro, why didn't isshin send Emma earlier then?
@@raxitgohel2999 why having a war would make Kuro's rescue easy? Emma could be too occupied treathing the woulded or even Isshin to warn Wolf, since that is her job.
Lol here father kills him the same way he kills his father in shura ending
Had Genichiro sought Sekiro's help while also aiding him in completing Kuro's goal to sever immortality, Ashina might have survived the Ministry's invasion. But then we won't be getting this fantastic game or not the same game.
I drink everytime I hear "teim" in theese guys videos.
hey guys, can you sometimes give a subtitle to your video. im not really good at english but i really want to know what exactly all the sekiro story about.. this game is amazing
The Demon is actually Tengu Isshin and NOT Sekiro. I also dont think that the Ministry was wary of Sekiro. Quite the contrary, Sekiro had the rumor of being a ''cowardly wolf'' that failed his duties and is not even considered a threat to the ministry. Isshin is the one that holds the ministry and all its enemies at bay.
I don’t think Ashton’s lost bc as you make your way to the ministry headquarters, it’s destroyed by shura. And you can eavesdrop on one of the spears and he and another samurai cut off another side and wiped out the minkstry
What's up with the Lone Shadows' left arms? Some don't seem to have them at all and the ones that use poison have strangely shaped hands or something, I could never get a good look during the fast poison attacks.
Michael W I’ve heard that they might have a snake in there left sleeves which poisons you
@@ThEg001 I guess there is a theme of snakes in the game but that seems random. I wonder if anyone has a clear screenshot of the attack or has been able to get a close look in a model viewer or something?
Michael W The Wikia/Fandom site for Sekiro (not to be confused for Fextralife’s site) has a few good images of Vilehand; the poison arm is darkly colored, but otherwise normal (he’s actually just karate-chopping you). Also, the regular Lone Shadows also have two arms, but only pull out the left one when tossing kunai.
Michael W i was pondering that too, why dont they use their left hands?? I think it has to do with shinobi techniques. Specifically the shinobi prosthetic as its a left arm. Perhaps they dont use their left arms cause they wish to replace it with “ the shinobi fang”?? Thats jus a guess tho
Marshall Duquette I think it’s more a “sneaky bastard” thing; basically keep an arm hidden so the enemy’s caught off guard when you do pull it out (like to toss kunai or do a poison strike).
Am I the only one who noticed that Lone Shadows don't use their Left Arm, as it is always tucked inside their Cloak ? Does it have any relation to Sekiro and Sekijo ?
I feel like Owl was planning on Madam butterfly killing Sekiro and then he would then sneak in and take her out. Kuro believing Owl to be his hero would have awarded Owl with the power of the dragon blood to heal him from his 'wounds'. When he arrives and finds that Sekiro has won the fight he knows that his gamble didn't pay off and so he stabs sekiro and runs.
Later on when Owl arrives at Ashina castle he is also trying to play the roll of rescuer but the young heir is not fooled.
awesome video!
Thanks buddy!
The lone shadows are my favourite enemies so fun to fight
So cool
You missed a piece of info and thats (how kuro ended up on ashina and not on owls hand) ... So I think Gyubo is the one leading the bandits.. After Wolf help kuro to escape(fighting Lady Butterfly) , the bandits capture kuro then send him to Gyubo then some time Isshin come across Gyubo to rescue kuro, Defeating him and making him his warrior since he is impressed to his skills(stated on Gyubos memory) and thats how kuro ended up on ashina.. Instead of Owl's..
How do you know this?
is it possible that lady butterfly was protecting kuro?,and owl sends us in to dispatch her
No, as lady butterfly attacked one of Kuro’s most loyal retainers and made him claw his eyes out
Amazing work :D
Oh hi Creeepling!
everything about lady butterfly working at odds against owl is total speculation and I'm not sure I agree with. Owl having the key is not enough support for the theory and even requires us to expect certain decisions from characters that I'm not sure they would do.
the interior ministry was really scared of only three guys(genichiro, isshin, and sekiro would all whoop my ass)
I think if Genichiro’s Ashina stood more of a chance if he wasn’t hellbent on the divine heir.
Always a pleasure.
Oh boi thats gonna be Good
Wooooo collaboration
for my opinion genechiro is dumb cause he hss the power of the reuvenating water soo he could be frontline second he acquired the 2nd mortal blade yet he choses to kill us instead of protecting ashina and 3rd he makes a wish to kill us ro isshin instead of choosing to defend ashina
Love the collab guys
I think you meant to say perpetuate. Awesome videos though broheemian Rhapsody.
I loved this !
Feel like Lady Butterfly thought we were working for Owl and was trying to protect Kuro
way late but nope. Kuro comes to you under a illusion. Why would she put Kuro under a illusion if she's trying to protect him? Also, that one dude loyal to Kuro gives you snap seeds to fight her. All signs point to her being a traitor along with Owl.
I disagree about the Lady Butterfly theory completely.
She taught us most of our shinobi techniques, and from Wolf's heartbroken "why?", And the way he sorrowfully says "Lady Butterfly... Forgive me..." As you execute her (in the exact same way he chooses to execute his father, interestingly), that she functioned as his maternal surrogate. In fact, in the Japanese dialogue, Sekiro actually doesnt call her lady butterfly where it says he does in the subtitles. He says "Ocha..." (Or "Obacca" and im just not hearing the 'ba'), which both mean grandma, with the first being something like granny. They were very close.
Grandma then says "Why, indeed? You'll die if you doubt yourself, boy." She knew he would be hesitant to attack her, and so she verbally warns him to take her seriously.
After you overcome her, she calls you impressive before hopping down from an inaccessible location. She could have escaped, and she knew at that point that he was going to kill her.
As she dies, she says "You've gotten stronger, Wolf..." Up until that point, she called you "Son of Owl", and "boy." She's recognizing your name.
When you confront her memory, the remnant's last words are "some things can only be learned in the heat of battle."
She was our teacher! When Hirata Estate was sacked, she must have known only Owl could have been responsible. It was probably Owl who ordered you and all the other warriors to go and support a battle. She knew she was no match for Owl, but her precious student could be. She gave her life to teach us that unteachable final lesson, spoken of in the last words in her remnant.
I thought this was obvious to everybody! Lady Butterfly wasn't a villain! If she wanted to use illusions on Kuro to get him to make her immortal, she could have. He was already under her spell and had clearly been with her for some time. I thought we all cried together when we read that remnant; I had no idea our grandma was so misunderstood 😭
Btw rats are the munchkin enemies not shadows
Why are the purple guys at the estate? Is that part of the story when you chose to follow your father and betray Kuro? i haven't done that yet
Well in order to have the interior ministry and owl in hirata you would’ve had to choose stay loyal to Kuro. Betraying Kuro ends the game early
During the time of Hirata, it's most likely that Owl was working with the Interior Ministry and was even in with the bandits. Chances are, the bandits were sent to destroy Hirata entirely and serve as more of a diversion than anything, while the Interior Ministry and Owl infiltrated deep into the main estate to go get the Divine Heir. TLDR the purple guys are working with Owl to get the Divine Heir out of Hirata. And no, what ending you're doing has no effect on the events of Hirata, outside of Hirata 2, during the Purification ending.
So basically Ashina was outplayed completely and utterly by the Ministry and by Owl.
Was Sekiro unknowingly complicit in the sack of Hirata?
3:54 reading script error
Does anyone know why all the purple ninjas have fucked up left arms? Like they're crippled or something?
I want to work for the interior ministry
So is Sekiro set in a post apocalyptic Feudal land?
When you think about it all of history is kinda post apocalyptic with all those extinction events
@@ayanleman
Yea, but I dont know if Sekiro is set where Japan is almost annihilated by the Dragon Rot.
(I'm confused as to how big the interior ministry is)
@@yharnamiyhill787 It's supposed to be set in Japan's Sengoku Era, which was around 15th and 16th century. But it's a fictional version of the history. The interior ministry most likely represents the largest clan and the Shogunate. Ashina Clan is a fictional clan, but definitely represents one of the smaller clans of the era that was trying to stay independent from the Shogunate. So it is history in a broad sense, but it has a lot of fantasy as well.
@@sul141 Is Ashina really fictional? Because i read Wikipedia's article on Sengoku Japan and there was a map of all the shogunates(?) and one of them was named Ashina.
Ashina was a real clan, but the representation of it in the game is pretty much all it’s own.
Why does Wolf fight a younger version of Owl?
Remember when you die after Lady Butterfly? The second Harada Estate memory is basically a continuation of that memory, you don't die and keep on going until you kind out who ordered the coup
Nygasso but then how do you fight owl at Ashina castle if you kill him there or is it more like you have changed what happens in the future as you have the ever blossom branch in your possession
Muhammad Uddin you can't fight younger owl before killing great shinobi owl.
@@muhammaduddin5884Hirata takes place 3 years before the main events of the game. Praying to the Buddha statue in the Dilapidated Temple allows one to basically go back in time to confront their memories. Wolf went 3 years back in memory-time to kill Owl and get the Everblossom. And because it's just a memory that only Wolf experiences a second time, it doesn't alter the course of history.
I really wish there was a way to stop them.
I have a feeling ashina might have won
I thought the demon the spear bearer was talking about isshin
He doesn't know who the demon is. He's just saying that there's a demon in Ashina who killed his friend. He is technically referring to Isshin, since Isshin was the one who killed his friend, but he doesn't know that.
Why is owl so big
Protein
@@Nygassso Whey·
@@nadeemius5565 Isolate-
Is there a video on why Sekiro can't remember shit? that's what i really want to know and why he wasn't at the estate when the attack happened
It's Stizzy //Chid No idea about the memory, but it’s likely that Owl himself gave Sekiro a bad lead to get him away from the Estate; after all, the code places father above master.
@@umbrellashotgunman True but he has history with Emma and i really want to know what that was about
I’m sorry, but i found very difficult to understand certain sentences of yours due to your unusual accent. By the way, i really enjoyed all your videos about sekiro lore. Good job :)
Scottish probably! They use _eii_ with pretty much everything!
0:55 ahh fuken hate the mikiri miss
Who cares.
Around 75,000 people, if I'm reading the view count right.