ERRATA: At 4:11, the 2 should also be squared, so the final answer is -mc^2i/sqrt(3). I should have set v=sqrt(2). This doen't affect the point being made, though: that the factor i will be in the final answer.
In my opinion, I think it would be kind of rude to call all people who make claims of "alien abductions" as insane, most of them are definitely lying, but others have recalled consistent experiences under hypnosis. I dont want to make wild theorys of anything, but I dont think there is any guarantee that they are all high, or crazy.
You said shadows can travel faster than light. Please look at the case where the absence of light of a particular wavelength falling on a photodetector is set as 0 and when the light is falling, the output is set as 1. Then in this case, wouldn't a shadow convey _information_ ? Now that I have typed this, I think this kind of physics is way over my head and Ishould stay within limits of my profession of engineering. 😂
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Don't take this the wrong way but CoolHardLogic needs to make a new video debunking Jordtard......... sadly though he is too busy not making videos not debunking nobody. He must have been abducted by Flattards and pushed over the edge.
"Well Ankh my frequency and call me a Space Jew!" I haven't even finished the video yet, and I've gotta say Martymer: I've laughed pretty hard at every WDPLaSS, but that line almost made me spit out my coffee. Thanks for continuing despite RUclips burying your fantastic work!
Running joke with a few friends that we blame the Space Jews on everything from bad weather to getting stopped at a red light. Alien pre-1978 didn't look like the Steven Spielberg Close Encounters aliens. It's funny as shit to academically research the folklore around the UFO nuts.
@the l33t hamm3rbro somewhere back in the depths of this series Jordan makes some interesting statements about where Jews come from. Martymer has latched onto this. Hard.
Having done enough hallucinogens to completely disconnect from reality: It's brain noise. It's what consciousness feels like through different paths than usual. The movement of information through the brain is what experience is. If you change how the information moves, you change what the experience is, just as surely as if you change what's physically happening. That does not mean you are "accessing alternate realities", what you are accessing is the ability to perceive the same patterns through different pathways. What it exposes is only about yourself, about what's inside you. The reason it seems like you're accessing something else is that it's all happening in the same circuitry. Hallucinations come from the part of your brain that tells the part of the brain that has internal awareness, the part that you think of as "you" "This is what reality is." Of course it's going to seem like reality changed. As far as the part of you that thinks is, reality actually did change, but not because of anything happening outside of your brain. Basically, what you think is reality is a mix of what the world is, and how the parts of you that cut apart and smear that out so that you can make sense of it actually go about doing so. Hallucinogens change how your brain cuts apart and smears out reality. Reroutes data, sends it to multiple locations at once, all sorts of noisy crap, and the part of you that makes a coherent story out of that then does its best to figure out what the hell is going on, and you get hallucinations.
Same with psychedelics, and I agree with pretty much everything you have said here. I’ve “talked to aliens” while high on DMT and it felt amazing, like you are being given a look into some other sort of reality. But then you come back and realize you just had a hallucination. There is nothing any more real about it than the dreams you have had all your life.
@@Mortiis558 Exactly, though that doesn't mean they're useless. That latent space contains literally everything humans can do and experience. There's some neat stuff in there.
Exactly. But as Teth47 above said, it still may be useful. For therapy of course, but it could be useful even for gleaning something objective. Most scientists that discovered something new, had to try and look at the problem from all possible crazy angles they could manage. And brain functioning in "standard mode" may be physically unable to actually look at ALL the possibilities... If drugs induce such extreme differences in how information is processed, maybe we will discover how to use them to discover theories otherwise unimaginable. But maybe people will just use them to get smashed... who knows. :D
@ayy lmao It is extremely valuable for brains that are stuck in bad patterns. THe whole point of a hallucinogen is to break ordinary patterns in the first place, so it makes perfect sense that it would help with depression. It's a shame they've been illegal for so long, simply because the hippies had a point and the powers that be in the 60s decided to stomp them out.
Do you know the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise? It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. It's ironic he could save others from death, but not himself
"If I say the word 'Alien', what's the first image that comes up in your mind? Little grey guy with big black eyes, right?" Yeah... No. Facehuggers. I see Facehuggers. I don't think it would be a good idea to take mind altering drugs if they take me to a far-reaching nexus of conciousness if I'ma bring back goddamn Zenomorphs. "Hi!" says the doctor "How was your journey to the inner cosmos?" "BlargglegAAAAAGH blblbbbAaa!!!" I scream, as a sodding neon thai-dye chestburster chews it's way outa my third eye... Don't do drugs.
Yep, first xenomorph, then that Simon Pegg movie Paul, and various incarnations of the greys. I guess we've accepted Kal El as human, along with all the other humanoids that look and act mostly like us. Aaaaaanyway, this just goes to further prove how much culture and media influences our imaginations and go-to associations.
*that whole _channel_ is. Except he doesn't just make up stuff where science doesn't at this moment have a definitive answer; he also makes up stuff where he just doesn't understand the answers that science does provide.
This reminds me of the Andy Parsons comment: "Has anyone noticed how many 'UFO sightings' occur at night, outside pubs, next to airports?" Also, it's always a good day when Marty graces RUclips again
12:15 I once believed, definitively, and told everyone around me, that I had met God. False knowledge _feels_ absolutely identical to genuine knowledge. You can't tell whether you really know something by how strongly you feel about it.
@@samboyaus Because it wasn't concordant with reality outside confirmation bias and it's never reliably repeatable, scientificaly or not. Furthermore, The consequences to accepting the claim that knowledge can be apriori is that it leads to faith. When it is supposed that some knowledge exists and is valid without our need of deriving it from reality, it opens the door to pretending all knowledge can be like this. By denying the use of reason to form these abstract ideas, it claims there are alternative methods of gaining knowledge. By severing the tie to reality, it allows any idea to be accepted. This is why asking how you know something is/isn't knowledge is both a good question and also a Stupid question simultaniously without being necessarily contradictory as you need to know what knowledge is before you can know if you have it. It's the very thing Aron Ra talks about in his 4th episode in his series of foundational falsehoods of creationism. It is a logical fallacy illustrative of the fundamental sophistry behind the creationism movement; the idea that really really believing something is the same thing as knowing it. "Every religion claims to believe as they do because of reason, education, or intelligence given by their god in revelation. But whether they admit it or not, all of them are assuming their preferred conclusions on faith, and this would still be true even if all of their gods exist. Believe as hard as you want to. But convincing yourself however firmly still can’t change the reality of things. Seeing is believing. But seeing isn’t knowing. Believing isn’t knowing. Subjective convictions are meaningless in science, and eyewitness testimony is the least reliable form of evidence."
13:05 *"why [try psychedelics]? What would that accomplish? Any scientist would know that anything they experience while high is just drugs messing with their heads, so they would know better than to think this experience has any value beyond... 'awesome trip'."* -- I can tell you how they benefited me, not being a scientist but still understanding what you said there. Having experiences that match many of the things mystics and the religious say they experience, demonstrated to me that their brains could be generating these experiences. Testimony of religious experiences became weaker, more easily explained. (I'm not saying this is the best way to learn this lesson. I got similar insights from merely watching a doco about a guy who had religious experiences during his epileptic seizures.)
Exactly! Drug are fun, some of the greatest scientists of all time enjoyed drugs. But for someone to exclaim that the hallucinations from drugs are true makes them worthy of ridicule.
Imaginary energy : What drive's ones favourite variant of perpetuum mobile. Imaginary mass : What anorexic people see in the mirror. Hope that cleared it up, Marty! :-D
While I agree the person being analysed was just making crazy shit up, I never liked the "debunk" through use of established theory. Relativity works well as a model... but it still is a model. The fact that "we would get imaginary mass in this equation" does not mean, that another, more inclusive model, will yield the same nonsensical result. Relativity itself surpassed the Newtonian model, which seems so "true", that most people nowadays (a century later) still think relativity is "weird" and really understand world in the older model... And considering we already KNOW something will likely have to be understood differently to reconcile relativity with the Standard model... I would not use this equation as a "Definitivie" proof of anything, especially not our "trust" in this model. I think most physicists would agree, that it has been on a very shaky ground, ever since quantum mechanics got proven so rigorously... But I liked the video, the other guy was so confused in his reasoning :D Just a point of constructive criticism. EDIT TLDR: the best we can say, is that it would make no sense in the current model... and if the person making stuff up is incapable of producing a new model to surpass relativity, there is no point in the argument. but it doesnt mean "duh, its untrue, because the math doesnt work" ... thats the kind of language I would not use as a science communicator :)
@@psychepeteschannel5500 Actually, this very video takes it seriously, even if Marty mocks it. By showing the math, he takes it seriously and shows us WHY it won't work. If Jordan had presented his own equation for how it could theoretically be possible to travel faster than light, Marty would have absolutely gone and analyzed it. But scientists generally dismiss claims that aren't backed up at least by solid math because they have nothing to test. And if they have nothing to test, then it's not science, and it's literally not their job to deal with it.
@@Nerobyrne I totally understand what you mean, and... sure, truth be told guys like the superluminal video author, dont even "deserve" a response. BUT when a response is given, by choice, I dont like the language of "this is WRONG, because it doesnt fit our current math". The point I was trying to make is, that it is not "WRONG", it is just meaningless, without support of a new model, that could explain relativistic effects better than Einsteins relativity. I am not arguing against the conclusion, just the delivery. These are the slight things that give some people the idea of "science being arrogant".
The empty shadow of a signal is just as important to getting a message across as the energy that the message is being conveyed. It's like saying only the ones in binary transmit information.
Haha :D Good one. But just in case you were actually wondering about why "shadow carries no information", the bat signal is not really a carrier of information. It is a patern on a cloud, delivered there by the speed of light (the bat-signal lamp). And then it is delivered to batman via looking at the cloud - which is again, done at speed of light. The bat signal can move ACROSS the sky faster than the speed of light, but it only ever gets to the sky at speed of light, and then is only ever observed at the speed of light. So actually, it is at least twice slower, compared to actual communication at the speed of light :D
2:20 - saw one TV program a while back; out of focus video and in it you can see green flash, red flash, green flash, red flash, ... of course in the program their belief system kicks in. What to I see? An aircraft with its strobes. 2:58 - and that is why none have visited. They would have had to travel for millennia to get to us and have to somehow know to travel to us long before we started transmitting radio signal and long before they had even travelled any appreciable distance - as if this planet is the single most important place in the entire universe.
Welcome back! And trust me you appear to REALLY mess with the RUclips algorithms... My first 'ads' were one for RUclips video service and... for an Ion Spectrometer, "it's not just a research instrument" I'm dying here :)
You let yourself down! He often lets has been scientists reinforce his psychosis. I guessed psychedelics and I had a party! :D:D:D Not with psychadelics by the way, just neurons and thought induced hormone production. Which incidentally is why I know brain pixies are real! I wouldn't lie to you, now would I.
I feel this is a reoccuring theme in Jordans "work": drugs allow you to do stuff. Sometimes I wonder how much of his videos are created to justify taking drugs. I mean you do you and if you like taking drugs recreationally understanding the risks, both to you and the people around you, it is your thing. (And deal with the laws applying to your place of residence.) But claiming some magic effects of drugs is harmful. Because there is no reason to take drugs to get a better understanding of the universe.
I also just got this video recommen... Your comment is 2 days old? o_O Also, I'm recommended a new Jordan Peterson interview from someone called Ossekop? O_o Makes total sense. A jordan is a jordan, apparently.
If Numb Nuts here is so smart, then by all means, let’s see HIM fund the spaceship and build it. Prove us all wrong with your quantum warp drive thingy. I’ll wait...
Having had ketamine treatment for my PTSD (which was ineffective, unfortunately), I had some instances where it felt my entire reality fell apart, but I NEVER assumed that I had been transported into a new world, nor did it change any bit of my perspective on this metaphysical, unprovable nonsense. It's sad that this stuff continues to be perpetuated, and I've seen friends fall quickly into some of these ludicrous ideas, albeit falling far less into it than Jordan. No amount, nor type of drug is going to change that which we know about our reality.
I was so happy to see a new episode out! Love the blue background mate, it really brings out the "malice" in your eyes (I was only watching that hate mail video from Jordons idiot followers this morning too, so good timing lol)
Damn, Marty. That was quite profound what you said at the end there. I wish I could see an actual conversation take place live between you and Jordan. I realize that's unlikely to happen but I'd love to see how he'd respond to the things you say in real time. Anyways, good to have you back!
We interpret our experience of the world to ourselves in the symbols inherited from the culture in which we happened to have been reared, Our experience - another's symbols.
Requiring too much energy is not the reason warp drives/wormholes aren't feasible (and newer proposals don't require an impossible amount), rather it's that they require negative mass which probably doesn't and can't exist (as it lets you easily violate conservation of energy).
@@ViperPilot16 I've hear that, though I never played the games. Ships in Star Trek also used antimatter, because when it was written some people thought antimatter *might* have negative mass (thus letting you make warp drives).
@@vakusdrake3224 Is that the reason for antimatter usage in Star trek? Wow, I never knew that. I assumed the science was proper on that one, that they are just using matter-antimatter colision to get a shitload of energy. Do you really need negative mass for warp? I thought that is only needed for wormholes and warpdrive would just be very technologically complicated AND require a lot of energy.
Crossing the light barrier isn’t like breaking the sound barrier, or learning how to fly. There are already things in nature that do both of those. Nothing breaks the speed of causality.
You should continue this series! You are the most thorough debunker of this garbage and now combatting this information is more important than ever, especially since he has over 1 million followers.
"Well ankh my frequency and call me a space Jew!" is my new favorite expression. Also, in addition to the infinite energy/divide by zero/imaginary energy problem with accelerating past the speed of light, there's also the fact that nothing can move faster than the speed at which causality propagates without causing paradoxes (and the laws of physics appear to make true paradox impossible), but massless particles can move _at_ the speed of causality, and we just _call_ it the speed of light because we figured out how fast the massless particles that make up light travel before we figured out that causality was the reason. And one thing to add to the list of non-physical objects that can move faster than light (which I'm pretty sure you've mentioned in previous videos, but for completeness' sake): Points in spacetime, since spacetime can expand faster than objects can move within spacetime.
Thinking out loud....This channel has been on the verge of poppin' off for years. Has the algo blessed one of these spirit science vids yet? The focus of this channel appeared to lose direction for a while with the fallacy vids, so it's nice to see spirit science make another appearance.... There's an endless spigot of lunacy out there on the tubes to pull content from these days. Have fun out there! ❤
I 've read of at least one scientist (Susan Blackmore) who started out believing in the paranormal because of pschedelic experiences, then became a skeptic after she tried -- and failed -- to prove that these experiences corresponded with reality. The "problem" was, she'd been using the scientific method honestly from the start, treating the idea "my [and others'] experiences were real and not hallucinatory" not as an axiom ("I know what I saw!") but as a hypothesis; and she realized that the evidence pointed in the other direciton.
I have imaginary mass, it's the mass I now have while knowing I haven't stepped on the scales for about a decade and having a young child so chocolate and ice-cream take the place of sleep. (Yes I know mass≠weight, but I'm trying to be funny whilst sleep deprived).
You should just multiply it it by 3 pies I think it was. That will make it negative and make you look really slim. Could be 3 quarter of a pie. I'm not a mathematician and I didn't really remember. Just keep multiplying with pies and see what happens. Your weight should go counterclockwise and be negative at some point.
@@stylis666 Anything that involves pie sounds like a good idea, what I can do is experiment, find out what quantity of pie is required, that way it's for science!
"We get an imaginary number. The object would have imaginary energy. What does that even mean?" Why, it's simple. We can travel faster than the speed of light with the power, of our imagination!
Once he started talking about parallel dimensions or whatever outside the universe, I was expecting him to splice in a few seconds from Luc Besson's Lucy (2014). Maybe that movie is too "out there" for him?
It's back! Wish bloody YT had told me. It's not like I'm not subscribed and have notifications on or anything... That intro from JP was no better than I should have expected. Of course, he didn't disappoint, and neither did you tearing him apart. Thanks Marty! I really needed cheering up and you did it.
I guess Towlie did the minimum diligence by opening with a warning, "science fiction ahead". But it really is annoying how he uses such confidant language to describe events, yet includes so few hard details. You nailed it with the Voyager technobabble joke, btw. As for psychic powers, it's fun to imagine as part of a fantasy setting like Warhammer, but until two unrelated individuals can carry on and recite back a complete conversation, I remain unconvinced. And even then, one must still be skeptical of fraudsters. As for psychedelics and hallucinations brought on by certain meditation techniques, I've read a few books by Tibetan Buddhists that wrote about this. Basically, it's perfectly fine to acknowledge that these states are brought on by the drug or an oxygen deficiency. If it works to help a person make realizations about themselves and better achieve mental equanimity, then the experience was real in the sense that it happened to you, but not in any physical sense of reality. It's healthier to acknowledge that a spiritual vision of a saint or gods or aliens was merely a mental state that made one more open to understanding one's mind and nothing more. He's confusing a journey of self-discovery for a journey into the fifth dimension. He takes it all at face value instead of as the symbols used by one's mind. As an aside, they naturally disapproved of using drugs as a spiritual "short cut" because it's so easy to confuse hallucination from reality in those cases. Meditation requires discipline and guidance.
I dont know who you are and I wasn't subscribed (am now) but I got this video almost immediately on my feed after you posted it. I dont think youre buried!
Hey Marty, glad to see you back! Honestly, your break seems to have done you good. You look fresher, more energetic and there's a sparkle in your eyes! Hope everything is going well and you have regained your enthusiasm for making great videos! All the best!
So If i understand Jordan correctly we just need to use multimodal reflection sorting of the subspace tachyon matrix to allow a neutrino flow convertion in the quantum field generators which will create a bubble in space time. And we do this through techno babbel.
I thought that this series ended? Not that Spirit Science ended or that there was a reason to end the series but just simply out of boredom or something like that. I’m surprised. I do enjoy the entertainment though and the correction of lunacy! Warm welcome back!
When I hear the word alien I think mostly of nothing, sometimes invasive plants, then occasionally I think of the band Mudvayne from 2000-2001 when they had their weird face paint. They looked like how I imagine aliens could look, like disturbing humanoids. To be hypothetically realistic though, no alien would see the Earth in its used-like-a-gas-station-toilet state, biosphere being smeared out of existence, humans with nukes running around, and want to stop off and say hello. They'd blacklist our planet if anything, possibly even do an exterminatus.
When addressing the subject of shadows, or the illuminated zone from a flashlight, moving faster-than-light, I emphasize that they are an abstract, transient pseudo-object. They are defined purely based on an ever-changing collection of other real objects that have no direct causal influence on each other. If some photons you blocked would have struck a certain point in space-time, and some other photons you blocked would have landed a light-year away one second later, there's nothing significant about that.
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ERRATA: At 4:11, the 2 should also be squared, so the final answer is -mc^2i/sqrt(3). I should have set v=sqrt(2). This doen't affect the point being made, though: that the factor i will be in the final answer.
In my opinion, I think it would be kind of rude to call all people who make claims of "alien abductions" as insane, most of them are definitely lying, but others have recalled consistent experiences under hypnosis. I dont want to make wild theorys of anything, but I dont think there is any guarantee that they are all high, or crazy.
You said shadows can travel faster than light. Please look at the case where the absence of light of a particular wavelength falling on a photodetector is set as 0 and when the light is falling, the output is set as 1. Then in this case, wouldn't a shadow convey _information_ ?
Now that I have typed this, I think this kind of physics is way over my head and Ishould stay within limits of my profession of engineering. 😂
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I've it all turned on, but it seems that I only get the WDPLaSS notifications. Seems that more Jordan is the answer!
Good to see you again Martymer. Your video did show up on my notifications amazingly enough.
Don't take this the wrong way but CoolHardLogic needs to make a new video debunking Jordtard......... sadly though he is too busy not making videos not debunking nobody. He must have been abducted by Flattards and pushed over the edge.
RUclips is having problems with notifications with a lot of creators.
He thinks that the light barrier is just like the sound barrier; an obstacle to be overcome. 5:50
"Well Ankh my frequency and call me a Space Jew!"
I haven't even finished the video yet, and I've gotta say Martymer: I've laughed pretty hard at every WDPLaSS, but that line almost made me spit out my coffee. Thanks for continuing despite RUclips burying your fantastic work!
Running joke with a few friends that we blame the Space Jews on everything from bad weather to getting stopped at a red light.
Alien pre-1978 didn't look like the Steven Spielberg Close Encounters aliens. It's funny as shit to academically research the folklore around the UFO nuts.
@the l33t hamm3rbro somewhere back in the depths of this series Jordan makes some interesting statements about where Jews come from. Martymer has latched onto this. Hard.
Having done enough hallucinogens to completely disconnect from reality: It's brain noise. It's what consciousness feels like through different paths than usual.
The movement of information through the brain is what experience is. If you change how the information moves, you change what the experience is, just as surely as if you change what's physically happening. That does not mean you are "accessing alternate realities", what you are accessing is the ability to perceive the same patterns through different pathways. What it exposes is only about yourself, about what's inside you.
The reason it seems like you're accessing something else is that it's all happening in the same circuitry. Hallucinations come from the part of your brain that tells the part of the brain that has internal awareness, the part that you think of as "you" "This is what reality is."
Of course it's going to seem like reality changed. As far as the part of you that thinks is, reality actually did change, but not because of anything happening outside of your brain.
Basically, what you think is reality is a mix of what the world is, and how the parts of you that cut apart and smear that out so that you can make sense of it actually go about doing so. Hallucinogens change how your brain cuts apart and smears out reality. Reroutes data, sends it to multiple locations at once, all sorts of noisy crap, and the part of you that makes a coherent story out of that then does its best to figure out what the hell is going on, and you get hallucinations.
Same with psychedelics, and I agree with pretty much everything you have said here. I’ve “talked to aliens” while high on DMT and it felt amazing, like you are being given a look into some other sort of reality. But then you come back and realize you just had a hallucination. There is nothing any more real about it than the dreams you have had all your life.
@@Mortiis558 Exactly, though that doesn't mean they're useless. That latent space contains literally everything humans can do and experience. There's some neat stuff in there.
Exactly. But as Teth47 above said, it still may be useful. For therapy of course, but it could be useful even for gleaning something objective. Most scientists that discovered something new, had to try and look at the problem from all possible crazy angles they could manage. And brain functioning in "standard mode" may be physically unable to actually look at ALL the possibilities... If drugs induce such extreme differences in how information is processed, maybe we will discover how to use them to discover theories otherwise unimaginable. But maybe people will just use them to get smashed... who knows. :D
@ayy lmao It is extremely valuable for brains that are stuck in bad patterns. THe whole point of a hallucinogen is to break ordinary patterns in the first place, so it makes perfect sense that it would help with depression. It's a shame they've been illegal for so long, simply because the hippies had a point and the powers that be in the 60s decided to stomp them out.
When the world needed him the most, he returned
Do you know the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise?
It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life...
He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did.
Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. It's ironic he could save others from death, but not himself
@@jarmandog413 I love the Star Wars Universe myself, but why?
@@ominous-omnipresent-they I mean, why not?
Not like that bastard avatar!
Who am I kidding, I can't hate Aang.
"If I say the word 'Alien', what's the first image that comes up in your mind? Little grey guy with big black eyes, right?"
Yeah... No.
Facehuggers. I see Facehuggers.
I don't think it would be a good idea to take mind altering drugs if they take me to a far-reaching nexus of conciousness if I'ma bring back goddamn Zenomorphs.
"Hi!" says the doctor "How was your journey to the inner cosmos?"
"BlargglegAAAAAGH blblbbbAaa!!!" I scream, as a sodding neon thai-dye chestburster chews it's way outa my third eye...
Don't do drugs.
When you say "Alien" the first thing that springs into my mind is Sigourney Weaver in her vest. Then the Xenomorph. Lol.
You and me both!
Yes, this! Xenomorphs... and then, for some reason: "Supreme Commander Thor"....
Yep, first xenomorph, then that Simon Pegg movie Paul, and various incarnations of the greys. I guess we've accepted Kal El as human, along with all the other humanoids that look and act mostly like us.
Aaaaaanyway, this just goes to further prove how much culture and media influences our imaginations and go-to associations.
Me too.
I went with the classic green man with antennas... the second was gray aliens.
I love these so much. Jordan is a never-ending fount of amusement.
He's definitely a never ending fountain of something :)
@@Gassit You beat me to it by only 26 minutes, congrats :)
@Naukumaija Mau-mau No, I was thinking of something a bit more squishy and smelly .
I love Jordan, he lives in such an amazing universe. I wish our history was that interesting. Lmao. XD
That whole video is one giant "God of the Gaps" fallacy.
"Science doesn't have the answer to XYZ, so XYZ must be this thing I believe in!"
And at the same time he claims that Science is to arrogant thinking it has the answer to everything... -_-
If science doesn't have an answer I can understand, that means I get to make things up.
*that whole _channel_ is.
Except he doesn't just make up stuff where science doesn't at this moment have a definitive answer; he also makes up stuff where he just doesn't understand the answers that science does provide.
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Or where he doesn't _like_ the answers science provides.
Or where he _does_ like it, but he likes his own idea more.
This reminds me of the Andy Parsons comment: "Has anyone noticed how many 'UFO sightings' occur at night, outside pubs, next to airports?"
Also, it's always a good day when Marty graces RUclips again
Martymer: Psychedelic drugs have nothing to do with Quantum physics.
The Spacing guild navigators: Are we a joke to you?
That just means he's also ripped off Dune.
12:15 I once believed, definitively, and told everyone around me, that I had met God. False knowledge _feels_ absolutely identical to genuine knowledge. You can't tell whether you really know something by how strongly you feel about it.
If it feels identical to genuine knowledge, then how did you eventually determine that you were wrong?
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Because it wasn't concordant with reality outside confirmation bias and it's never reliably repeatable, scientificaly or not.
Furthermore, The consequences to accepting the claim that knowledge can be apriori is that it leads to faith. When it is supposed that some knowledge exists and is valid without our need of deriving it from reality, it opens the door to pretending all knowledge can be like this. By denying the use of reason to form these abstract ideas, it claims there are alternative methods of gaining knowledge. By severing the tie to reality, it allows any idea to be accepted.
This is why asking how you know something is/isn't knowledge is both a good question and also a Stupid question simultaniously without being necessarily contradictory as you need to know what knowledge is before you can know if you have it.
It's the very thing Aron Ra talks about in his 4th episode in his series of foundational falsehoods of creationism. It is a logical fallacy illustrative of the fundamental sophistry behind the creationism movement; the idea that really really believing something is the same thing as knowing it.
"Every religion claims to believe as they do because of reason, education, or intelligence given by their god in revelation. But whether they admit it or not, all of them are assuming their preferred conclusions on faith, and this would still be true even if all of their gods exist. Believe as hard as you want to. But convincing yourself however firmly still can’t change the reality of things. Seeing is believing. But seeing isn’t knowing. Believing isn’t knowing. Subjective convictions are meaningless in science, and eyewitness testimony is the least reliable form of evidence."
Be careful putting complex numbers in here. Jordan may hear "imaginary" and take it the wrong way...
Jordan will very upset when he discovers that Emma Watson is an avowed atheist, and doesn't believe in sky daddies.
She just needs to take mushrooms with Jordan, then she’ll understand! 😉
@Naukumaija Mau-mau Didnt think about that, but yeah it is probably best she stays an ocean away from Jordan and his delusions.
13:05 *"why [try psychedelics]? What would that accomplish? Any scientist would know that anything they experience while high is just drugs messing with their heads, so they would know better than to think this experience has any value beyond... 'awesome trip'."*
-- I can tell you how they benefited me, not being a scientist but still understanding what you said there. Having experiences that match many of the things mystics and the religious say they experience, demonstrated to me that their brains could be generating these experiences. Testimony of religious experiences became weaker, more easily explained.
(I'm not saying this is the best way to learn this lesson. I got similar insights from merely watching a doco about a guy who had religious experiences during his epileptic seizures.)
Exactly! Drug are fun, some of the greatest scientists of all time enjoyed drugs. But for someone to exclaim that the hallucinations from drugs are true makes them worthy of ridicule.
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"Some of the best scientist enjoyed drugs" -CUTATION NEEDED.
@@guytheincognito4186 Carl Sagan smoked pot, I think it was Alan Parsons who enjoyed LSD.
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Ok, that's Two. Can hardly call that most though. Lol.
Good day.
Things i have learn about drugs:
1: they arent like the poeple that loves them tell you
2: they arent like the people that hates them tell you
Na if somebody says alien to me the first image that comes to my mind is Xenomorph.
Exactly.
It's Gonzo's family or nothing!
"It's a bug hunt."
I was picturing a xenomorph as well!
I'm on team facehugger, closely followed with baby xenomorph with top hat and cane. I really wish they had done that in the original :p
Imaginary energy : What drive's ones favourite variant of perpetuum mobile.
Imaginary mass : What anorexic people see in the mirror.
Hope that cleared it up, Marty! :-D
damn that's pretty dark.
Also pretty funny ^^
@FACE GALLON a dark sense of humour is like family.
Not everyone has one
While I agree the person being analysed was just making crazy shit up, I never liked the "debunk" through use of established theory. Relativity works well as a model... but it still is a model. The fact that "we would get imaginary mass in this equation" does not mean, that another, more inclusive model, will yield the same nonsensical result. Relativity itself surpassed the Newtonian model, which seems so "true", that most people nowadays (a century later) still think relativity is "weird" and really understand world in the older model... And considering we already KNOW something will likely have to be understood differently to reconcile relativity with the Standard model... I would not use this equation as a "Definitivie" proof of anything, especially not our "trust" in this model. I think most physicists would agree, that it has been on a very shaky ground, ever since quantum mechanics got proven so rigorously... But I liked the video, the other guy was so confused in his reasoning :D Just a point of constructive criticism.
EDIT TLDR: the best we can say, is that it would make no sense in the current model... and if the person making stuff up is incapable of producing a new model to surpass relativity, there is no point in the argument. but it doesnt mean "duh, its untrue, because the math doesnt work" ... thats the kind of language I would not use as a science communicator :)
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Actually, this very video takes it seriously, even if Marty mocks it. By showing the math, he takes it seriously and shows us WHY it won't work.
If Jordan had presented his own equation for how it could theoretically be possible to travel faster than light, Marty would have absolutely gone and analyzed it.
But scientists generally dismiss claims that aren't backed up at least by solid math because they have nothing to test.
And if they have nothing to test, then it's not science, and it's literally not their job to deal with it.
@@Nerobyrne I totally understand what you mean, and... sure, truth be told guys like the superluminal video author, dont even "deserve" a response. BUT when a response is given, by choice, I dont like the language of "this is WRONG, because it doesnt fit our current math".
The point I was trying to make is, that it is not "WRONG", it is just meaningless, without support of a new model, that could explain relativistic effects better than Einsteins relativity.
I am not arguing against the conclusion, just the delivery. These are the slight things that give some people the idea of "science being arrogant".
A shadow conveys no information? The bat-signal begs to differ!
The empty shadow of a signal is just as important to getting a message across as the energy that the message is being conveyed.
It's like saying only the ones in binary transmit information.
Haha :D Good one. But just in case you were actually wondering about why "shadow carries no information", the bat signal is not really a carrier of information. It is a patern on a cloud, delivered there by the speed of light (the bat-signal lamp). And then it is delivered to batman via looking at the cloud - which is again, done at speed of light. The bat signal can move ACROSS the sky faster than the speed of light, but it only ever gets to the sky at speed of light, and then is only ever observed at the speed of light. So actually, it is at least twice slower, compared to actual communication at the speed of light :D
I choose answer E: space jews
@Kevin McDougall no?
You forgot to put the *pulls card* part
I was running low on my monthly dose of high speed topically applied facepalm oil. Thanks!
Jordan took dmt and traveled to Ferenginar where he completed a study of the Rules of Acquisition.
I took dmt and a parade of dancing bears laughed at me while marching through my room
My favorite skeptic has returned!
If Jordan had a restaurant it would only serve word salad with a DMT dressing. Perhaps some wheat free bread rolls too.
Yeah, but the bread would be cut into the shape of a Calaba-Yau (sp?) Star of David, so there's that.
Hello Robert
9:00 Dammit, I had "All of the above"
If you let Jordan talk long enough, you'd probably get there eventually
2:20 - saw one TV program a while back; out of focus video and in it you can see green flash, red flash, green flash, red flash, ... of course in the program their belief system kicks in. What to I see? An aircraft with its strobes.
2:58 - and that is why none have visited. They would have had to travel for millennia to get to us and have to somehow know to travel to us long before we started transmitting radio signal and long before they had even travelled any appreciable distance - as if this planet is the single most important place in the entire universe.
Welcome back! And trust me you appear to REALLY mess with the RUclips algorithms... My first 'ads' were one for RUclips video service and... for an Ion Spectrometer, "it's not just a research instrument" I'm dying here :)
I guessed A, ancient Sumerian tablets. I feel Jordan let me down badly.
You let yourself down! He often lets has been scientists reinforce his psychosis. I guessed psychedelics and I had a party! :D:D:D Not with psychadelics by the way, just neurons and thought induced hormone production. Which incidentally is why I know brain pixies are real! I wouldn't lie to you, now would I.
Dude have you ever read a Sumerian tablet? They fookin rule! Gilgamesh and Enkidu!
been waiting a looong time for this :D
I feel this is a reoccuring theme in Jordans "work": drugs allow you to do stuff. Sometimes I wonder how much of his videos are created to justify taking drugs.
I mean you do you and if you like taking drugs recreationally understanding the risks, both to you and the people around you, it is your thing. (And deal with the laws applying to your place of residence.) But claiming some magic effects of drugs is harmful. Because there is no reason to take drugs to get a better understanding of the universe.
He has to finance his "trips" somehow
Just got recommended this vid so you're not completely being buried. Hopefully this one takes off!
I also just got this video recommen... Your comment is 2 days old? o_O
Also, I'm recommended a new Jordan Peterson interview from someone called Ossekop? O_o
Makes total sense. A jordan is a jordan, apparently.
If Numb Nuts here is so smart, then by all means, let’s see HIM fund the spaceship and build it. Prove us all wrong with your quantum warp drive thingy. I’ll wait...
I wonder how Jordan went from edgy newgrounds animator, making nun-based shoot'em'ups to somewhat of a cult leader
Having had ketamine treatment for my PTSD (which was ineffective, unfortunately), I had some instances where it felt my entire reality fell apart, but I NEVER assumed that I had been transported into a new world, nor did it change any bit of my perspective on this metaphysical, unprovable nonsense. It's sad that this stuff continues to be perpetuated, and I've seen friends fall quickly into some of these ludicrous ideas, albeit falling far less into it than Jordan. No amount, nor type of drug is going to change that which we know about our reality.
I was so happy to see a new episode out! Love the blue background mate, it really brings out the "malice" in your eyes (I was only watching that hate mail video from Jordons idiot followers this morning too, so good timing lol)
👋 👋 Howzit. Thank you for returning 😊👌👍😎 I loved realising HOW BIG THE EARTH'S SHADOW, IS. THANKS.
And for the things Jordan says🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 🤣 🤣
I love that Data O'Briain joke so much. My brain went to a second before you made it.
I'm getting Star Trek fan fiction vibes from that name.
I missed these so much. Need to rewatch all of them now
Damn, Marty. That was quite profound what you said at the end there. I wish I could see an actual conversation take place live between you and Jordan. I realize that's unlikely to happen but I'd love to see how he'd respond to the things you say in real time. Anyways, good to have you back!
It would be like trying to play chess with someone who has made up their own rules, rules which allow them to always win.
I'm totally shiping Martymer and Jordan. We totaly need fanart of that right now!
I must admit I guessed wrong for which option he had gone with. I was sure it was option E): All of the above.
Same
The answer is 4. Psychedelics. The answer is always drugs, except when the question is "drugs?" And the answer is "yes"
Pretty sure the answer to "drugs?" is "drugs!"
We interpret our experience of the world to ourselves in the symbols inherited from the culture in which we happened to have been reared, Our experience - another's symbols.
10:40 - The image that popped into my head was actually the alien from the movie Alien. Checkmate atheists!
Same
Yes checkmate indeed, so profound.
@@michaelmeyer5215 Since I am bad at detecting irony, may I point out that "checkmate atheists" was ment in jest.
"They mostly come out at night. Mostly."
Yeah, those were some sexy xenomorphs. Giger sure did good work.
Requiring too much energy is not the reason warp drives/wormholes aren't feasible (and newer proposals don't require an impossible amount), rather it's that they require negative mass which probably doesn't and can't exist (as it lets you easily violate conservation of energy).
I'm not sure if you've played Mass Effect, but Element Zero deos that exact thing in the lore....
Cool
@@ViperPilot16 I've hear that, though I never played the games. Ships in Star Trek also used antimatter, because when it was written some people thought antimatter *might* have negative mass (thus letting you make warp drives).
@@vakusdrake3224 Is that the reason for antimatter usage in Star trek? Wow, I never knew that. I assumed the science was proper on that one, that they are just using matter-antimatter colision to get a shitload of energy. Do you really need negative mass for warp? I thought that is only needed for wormholes and warpdrive would just be very technologically complicated AND require a lot of energy.
Some ‘people’ can’t tell the difference between fantasy and reality.
“Psychedelic Voyages” a fancy way of saying tripping balls.
Crossing the light barrier isn’t like breaking the sound barrier, or learning how to fly. There are already things in nature that do both of those. Nothing breaks the speed of causality.
8:30 I‘m goning to go with Option E: All of the above.
Yay! more poking fun at Jordan. I've missed this series.
“I’m shocked! Shocked to find hallucinations among hallucinogen takers!”
The stand move when the puppet move. I know it's a small detail, but man, it drives me crazy.
Hahaha! He really needs to get someone to look at that thing. I think he has some screws loose.
You should continue this series! You are the most thorough debunker of this garbage and now combatting this information is more important than ever, especially since he has over 1 million followers.
"Well ankh my frequency and call me a space Jew!" is my new favorite expression.
Also, in addition to the infinite energy/divide by zero/imaginary energy problem with accelerating past the speed of light, there's also the fact that nothing can move faster than the speed at which causality propagates without causing paradoxes (and the laws of physics appear to make true paradox impossible), but massless particles can move _at_ the speed of causality, and we just _call_ it the speed of light because we figured out how fast the massless particles that make up light travel before we figured out that causality was the reason. And one thing to add to the list of non-physical objects that can move faster than light (which I'm pretty sure you've mentioned in previous videos, but for completeness' sake): Points in spacetime, since spacetime can expand faster than objects can move within spacetime.
I guessed B because i thought D was a joke about Jordan ideas being drug inducted... I was wrong.
His entire religion is a mashup of christianity, his idea of buddhism, and random ideas he got while high.
Same, assumed he would link sacred geometry to relativity spacetime curvature etc stuff...
Welcome back, it's good to hear your voice (of reason) again.
Well, Neil's book was written for a lay audience, most of who would have been confused by the math(myself included).
I've never clicked on a video faster.
Welcome back my second RUclips sub! Oven mit at the ready!
Please never stop this series
Martymer, a man who deserves a spot in the stickdeath halls of fame for his beat downs of this poor figure.
Martymer: Is it A, B, C or D?
Me: uhmmm.... all of the above?
Thinking out loud....This channel has been on the verge of poppin' off for years.
Has the algo blessed one of these spirit science vids yet?
The focus of this channel appeared to lose direction for a while with the fallacy vids, so it's nice to see spirit science make another appearance.... There's an endless spigot of lunacy out there on the tubes to pull content from these days. Have fun out there! ❤
How I have missed these videos. Thank you keep up the great work.
I 've read of at least one scientist (Susan Blackmore) who started out believing in the paranormal because of pschedelic experiences, then became a skeptic after she tried -- and failed -- to prove that these experiences corresponded with reality. The "problem" was, she'd been using the scientific method honestly from the start, treating the idea "my [and others'] experiences were real and not hallucinatory" not as an axiom ("I know what I saw!") but as a hypothesis; and she realized that the evidence pointed in the other direciton.
I have imaginary mass, it's the mass I now have while knowing I haven't stepped on the scales for about a decade and having a young child so chocolate and ice-cream take the place of sleep.
(Yes I know mass≠weight, but I'm trying to be funny whilst sleep deprived).
Imaginary energy: the energy you have to do everything as a parent.
You should just multiply it it by 3 pies I think it was. That will make it negative and make you look really slim. Could be 3 quarter of a pie. I'm not a mathematician and I didn't really remember. Just keep multiplying with pies and see what happens. Your weight should go counterclockwise and be negative at some point.
@@stylis666 Anything that involves pie sounds like a good idea, what I can do is experiment, find out what quantity of pie is required, that way it's for science!
Glade you're back man. It's nice to see blue boy is still crazy.
Thanks, RUclips algorithm! I don’t think I’ve laughed at spirit science all year. Didn’t realize I needed that.
"We get an imaginary number. The object would have imaginary energy. What does that even mean?"
Why, it's simple. We can travel faster than the speed of light with the power, of our imagination!
Scholar does psychodelic drug research
Jordan: with psychodelic drugs we can quantum travel.
Marty:*facepalms to infinity*
Once he started talking about parallel dimensions or whatever outside the universe, I was expecting him to splice in a few seconds from Luc Besson's Lucy (2014).
Maybe that movie is too "out there" for him?
Glad you found a little time for swimming in the stinky nonsense for our amusement. 👍🏻🙂. Love ya buddy.
It's back! Wish bloody YT had told me. It's not like I'm not subscribed and have notifications on or anything...
That intro from JP was no better than I should have expected. Of course, he didn't disappoint, and neither did you tearing him apart. Thanks Marty! I really needed cheering up and you did it.
Jordan: Be skeptical of science... But totally believe people who are high without question.
I guess Towlie did the minimum diligence by opening with a warning, "science fiction ahead". But it really is annoying how he uses such confidant language to describe events, yet includes so few hard details.
You nailed it with the Voyager technobabble joke, btw.
As for psychic powers, it's fun to imagine as part of a fantasy setting like Warhammer, but until two unrelated individuals can carry on and recite back a complete conversation, I remain unconvinced. And even then, one must still be skeptical of fraudsters.
As for psychedelics and hallucinations brought on by certain meditation techniques, I've read a few books by Tibetan Buddhists that wrote about this. Basically, it's perfectly fine to acknowledge that these states are brought on by the drug or an oxygen deficiency. If it works to help a person make realizations about themselves and better achieve mental equanimity, then the experience was real in the sense that it happened to you, but not in any physical sense of reality. It's healthier to acknowledge that a spiritual vision of a saint or gods or aliens was merely a mental state that made one more open to understanding one's mind and nothing more. He's confusing a journey of self-discovery for a journey into the fifth dimension. He takes it all at face value instead of as the symbols used by one's mind.
As an aside, they naturally disapproved of using drugs as a spiritual "short cut" because it's so easy to confuse hallucination from reality in those cases. Meditation requires discipline and guidance.
I dont know who you are and I wasn't subscribed (am now) but I got this video almost immediately on my feed after you posted it. I dont think youre buried!
Welcome back. We needed our Martymer fix.
"Ankh my frequency and call me a Space Jew"
WHY IS THIS STILL FUNNY
Hi MartyMer -- glad to see you back.
Good to have you back Mart!
Didn’t think we would get another treat but here we go
Hey Marty, glad to see you back! Honestly, your break seems to have done you good. You look fresher, more energetic and there's a sparkle in your eyes! Hope everything is going well and you have regained your enthusiasm for making great videos! All the best!
Damn it, I thought for sure it was going to be sacred geometry.
Ya me to but i should have know better then to think he could handle math.
Commenting to help the algorithm. Ankh RUclips for dealing you dirty! Your work is great, man. Thanks for keeping making content!
So awesome to have fresh Martymer content.
Love your content Martymer81! Keep it comin
Good, I wanted to blame my dying braincells on the Whiskey.
But now I've Spirit Science to blame.
Thanks!
Great to see you back, bro!!! I've always enjoyed your sense of humor and style.
Man, I could've sworn it was gonna be answer B. Sacred Geometry xS
So If i understand Jordan correctly we just need to use multimodal reflection sorting of the subspace tachyon matrix to allow a neutrino flow convertion in the quantum field generators which will create a bubble in space time. And we do this through techno babbel.
Sorry, not techno babbel, that should of course be psychedelic drugs.
I thought that this series ended? Not that Spirit Science ended or that there was a reason to end the series but just simply out of boredom or something like that. I’m surprised. I do enjoy the entertainment though and the correction of lunacy! Warm welcome back!
Good to see you back.
"And they're definitely real by the way"
My sides have become superluminal
And of course the Gorn are one of the aliens.
13:24"The reason that I bring all this up . . ." is that emesis works that way.
Daaaaaamn thought you would never make more if this :D! Sweet!
I love the contradiction inherent in "identifying" something that is a UFO.
"Because we don't know what it is, we can clearly know what it is."
When I hear the word alien I think mostly of nothing, sometimes invasive plants, then occasionally I think of the band Mudvayne from 2000-2001 when they had their weird face paint. They looked like how I imagine aliens could look, like disturbing humanoids. To be hypothetically realistic though, no alien would see the Earth in its used-like-a-gas-station-toilet state, biosphere being smeared out of existence, humans with nukes running around, and want to stop off and say hello. They'd blacklist our planet if anything, possibly even do an exterminatus.
Our planet would be a no-go zone lol.
When addressing the subject of shadows, or the illuminated zone from a flashlight, moving faster-than-light, I emphasize that they are an abstract, transient pseudo-object. They are defined purely based on an ever-changing collection of other real objects that have no direct causal influence on each other. If some photons you blocked would have struck a certain point in space-time, and some other photons you blocked would have landed a light-year away one second later, there's nothing significant about that.
If we are using "Voyager techno babble", does that means we will evolve into giant salamanders?
god I hope not, that episode sucked
Thank you for this one Marty!
Jordan truly is Wesley. And I wish for the runt to be airlocked as soon as possible.