Correction: at 9:51 I cut the conversation and voiceover in such a way that made it sound like Syria was saying the grip itself was illegal, but after a couple comments, I realize that misrepresents what she intended (which was that just stiff arming there would result in a passivity penalty). Thanks for pointing that out in the comments!
I'd watch J-Flo eat an apple. Seriously. Dude is one of the best Judo players- and coaches- this nation has ever produced. Just a phenomenal instructor- and SO humble, despite the fact that dude is a straight-up killer. Wonderful video, Josh. Dude, I beg of- and IMPLORE- you: STICK WITH JUDO AND GET A BLACK BELT. Once you're a Judo Black and A BJJ black or brown, you are fucking HELL to deal with- so get there. PLEASE stick with Judo and chronicle the journey. We fascinated-with-Judo BJJ'ers NEED to see this. Thanks for your bids my man; yours is one of my favorite channels on RUclips.
Was cool to see Jflo's take on ECO and how it applies to Judo. Him saying it's more applicable in wrestling makes sense but I honestly feel it's because the coaches in wrestling have been more open to experimenting with it. Finding a judoka who is unfavorable to uchikomi (from a results perspective lol) is unheard of. Judo is more rooted in its traditions and I can't help but believe that plays a role in how coaches teach. Flowing and playing around isn't a foreign concept in Judo but ECO adoption at the cost of drilling will be a super challenging. Great video! These have been really fun to watch. Reminds me of my Judo days
I'm really enjoying watching this journey into judo you're on. The coach seemed really good, and obviously on top of his game. His comment about learning the techniques and developing a quick twitch so that you use them is spot on. The Yoko tomenage is known as the Karen Briggs version which she popularised in the 80s/90s. She was a bit of a legend, and managed to pin her opponent despite having just dislocated her shoulder. She was a tough cookie.
@@joshbeambjj Can't remember now. One thing about developing the muscle memory and building up your quick twitch, quite often, when you throw and everything perfectly, you don't know what throw you have used. I have often had to ask what did I just do? Despite thinking that I had used say a tia toshi, I'd actually used sode tsurikomi goshi. I had two ways of training in randori, one I would have a throw in mind that I was working on and try to incorporate that, the second, I would go out with an empty mind and just use let my body react to the situation. Anyway...good luck on your journey.
On a different note, this is another reason why I love Judo so much. You’re a relatively small RUclipsr and these Judo greats are giving you their time with no issues and not talking down to you at all. In BJJ if a white were to ask most black belts these questions while trying to film for their channel, it would be a lot different. The Judo culture is pretty chill and welcoming. BJJ is very clicky and if you’re not in, you’re definitely out.
I read on reddit there was a guy with a podcast that has been experimenting with using eco approach to teach Judo. Seems like he's able to teach people without really using uchikomis.
@@joshbeambjj no, as far as I know from his interviews, Austin didn't learn Judo this way but he alluded to training this way now since he doesn't have time to attend regular classes. The guy I'm talking about is teaching beginners with no grappling experience from scratch. It seems he teaches out of Hollywood Judo.
This video was great bro! Question, could you do a video on how the culture/etiquettes differ between BJJ schools and Judo schools? I’m currently at my purple belt in BJJ and I’m stoked to put on a white belt joining a judo school! Though I feel apprehensive that I will look foolish coming from a “chill” school into a more disciplined culture. Would I look somewhat foolish? Or has it been your experience that Judo student will be just as friendly as your hippy friends at BJJ? Thanks for your time.
Hey, thanks for watching! Oh interesting video topic, I wrote it down. Tbh the judo club I joined is about as chill as any BJJ gym I’ve been to, if not more so. Actually the judo guys seem a lot nicer on average too 😂
Thanks man, that’s good to hear. I guess more specifically, at times I see a lot of bowing. Whether students are exiting/entering the mats or dojo. Or even before training. Where as my BJJ school is just show up ‘fist bump’ and train. I just would not want to appear disrespectful to the Judo etiquette. I just honestly don’t know how to do it ha
@angelpsyche-toy5295 if you're really interested in learning about Judo, you should check out Shintaro Higashi's channel. He has plenty of videos and a podcast on this discussion and more. Probably the most indepth guy on RUclips. He also previously wrestled and has a black belt in BJJ.
The concept of an experienced judoka that has never done uchikomi (repetitive practice, or drills) is quite foreign. Your body has to perform the correct movement by feel (without thought) and make micro adjustments throughout, and it takes tens of thousands of proper repetitions to get there. I think you'll find that you can do small micro-games around things like movement, positioning, and kumite (gripping), but to throw a trained opponent you also need the grind of uchikomi and nagekomi. He seems to indicate that is where he does this in his brief answer. Oh, also the open side of your knot should face to your left. Later!
I said on reddit to you on a previous video that you should just do Judo right handed if it feels more comfortable and ignore that it doesnt match your striking stance. That Jflo agrees makes me feel like maybe i wasnt wrong for once.
I was wondering this lol. Cuz actually the techniques he showed (like with the cross grips and the yoko tomoes), those felt really comfortable for me to do lefty 😂 The only things that feel comfortable righty are my right footed foot sweeps and turn throws… Help!
Awesome video. I'm so jealous, I'd kill to go to one of his seminars (I'm in the uk, alas) That grip is not illegal but if you stiff arm against the hips with it you'll get a passivity shido. It's just not a great grip as it doesn't offer the benefits of a high collar grip or proper belt grip. Look up Cal Jones Judo constraint based approach if you want to see something like the ecological approach applied to judo.
Thanks for watching! Oof yeah I realize I cut the video in a way that made it sound like the grip was illegal, thanks for pointing that out. Oh nice, great resource, thanks, I'll look up Cal Jones, hadn't heard of him before.
@@joshbeambjj he doesn't have much on youtube, I think there is one sample class he teaches, but he has been on a bunch of podcasts about sport coaching, written papers etc.
9:51 nothing about that grip is illegal. its not in the rules. I can see why she misinterpreted the rules though since in order to grip that low people tend to stiff arm more. You will get called a stiff arm defensive penalty for this, there's no penalty for that grip. Its the same kinda penalty as if you stiff armed in a LvR lapel grip.
@@henry4553 Your best bet would probably be Goltz and Riverside Youth Judo. There's also discover judo but I haven't been there before. The first two are also mostly kids with few adults compared to the list I mentioned above.
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Correction: at 9:51 I cut the conversation and voiceover in such a way that made it sound like Syria was saying the grip itself was illegal, but after a couple comments, I realize that misrepresents what she intended (which was that just stiff arming there would result in a passivity penalty). Thanks for pointing that out in the comments!
Continue the Judo videos they are awesome
Will do! Thanks for watching
Keep the Judo videos coming!!
Will do! Thanks for watching!
I had rotator cuff surgery 2 months ago, binge watching judo videos like this are feeding my obsession, thank you.
I'm glad my video could help -- wishing you a speedy recovery! Thanks for watching.
More judo videos please 😊
As a judo guy in bjj jflo is a real hero of mine
Love watching your journey with judo!
Thanks for watching and following along, glad you're enjoying it!
Such a great teacher, you guys are lookin sharp
Thanks for watching!
Great videos. Subbed!
Thanks for the sub!
I'd watch J-Flo eat an apple. Seriously. Dude is one of the best Judo players- and coaches- this nation has ever produced. Just a phenomenal instructor- and SO humble, despite the fact that dude is a straight-up killer.
Wonderful video, Josh. Dude, I beg of- and IMPLORE- you: STICK WITH JUDO AND GET A BLACK BELT. Once you're a Judo Black and A BJJ black or brown, you are fucking HELL to deal with- so get there.
PLEASE stick with Judo and chronicle the journey. We fascinated-with-Judo BJJ'ers NEED to see this.
Thanks for your bids my man; yours is one of my favorite channels on RUclips.
Man I'm loving your judo series, inspiring to see someone start judo around the same time as me
That’s awesome man, glad you’re enjoying it! More to come.
Was cool to see Jflo's take on ECO and how it applies to Judo. Him saying it's more applicable in wrestling makes sense but I honestly feel it's because the coaches in wrestling have been more open to experimenting with it. Finding a judoka who is unfavorable to uchikomi (from a results perspective lol) is unheard of. Judo is more rooted in its traditions and I can't help but believe that plays a role in how coaches teach. Flowing and playing around isn't a foreign concept in Judo but ECO adoption at the cost of drilling will be a super challenging. Great video! These have been really fun to watch. Reminds me of my Judo days
Yaku soku geiko is the equivalent, the toher thing is that lots of coaches don't use it, same as kakari geiko.
But they exist
Great video! I am also a BJJ blue belt who's started training some judo, I got my yellow belt last week. Hopefully, your shoulder will heal soon.
Hey Bjj blue belt, recently received my judo blue belt. Its eye opening how much one dont know between both tbh
Another awesome video. Thank you Josh.
I was sad to miss the seminar when Justin came to my town, staph is bummer!
i love judo
Another great video! Thank you!
I'd definitely say these videos are awesome because I do bjj but its also important to know to in evolved version of it keep it up!
I'm really enjoying watching this journey into judo you're on.
The coach seemed really good, and obviously on top of his game.
His comment about learning the techniques and developing a quick twitch so that you use them is spot on.
The Yoko tomenage is known as the Karen Briggs version which she popularised in the 80s/90s.
She was a bit of a legend, and managed to pin her opponent despite having just dislocated her shoulder.
She was a tough cookie.
Thanks for watching! Are you referring to the version where he had us sorta like donkey kick backwards first?
@@joshbeambjj Can't remember now.
One thing about developing the muscle memory and building up your quick twitch, quite often, when you throw and everything perfectly, you don't know what throw you have used.
I have often had to ask what did I just do?
Despite thinking that I had used say a tia toshi, I'd actually used sode tsurikomi goshi.
I had two ways of training in randori, one I would have a throw in mind that I was working on and try to incorporate that, the second, I would go out with an empty mind and just use let my body react to the situation.
Anyway...good luck on your journey.
Cal Jones in UK for eco Judo, Josh. Great content thank you
Thanks for watching!
On a different note, this is another reason why I love Judo so much. You’re a relatively small RUclipsr and these Judo greats are giving you their time with no issues and not talking down to you at all. In BJJ if a white were to ask most black belts these questions while trying to film for their channel, it would be a lot different. The Judo culture is pretty chill and welcoming. BJJ is very clicky and if you’re not in, you’re definitely out.
I read on reddit there was a guy with a podcast that has been experimenting with using eco approach to teach Judo. Seems like he's able to teach people without really using uchikomis.
Was it Austin Cook by chance?
@@joshbeambjj no, as far as I know from his interviews, Austin didn't learn Judo this way but he alluded to training this way now since he doesn't have time to attend regular classes. The guy I'm talking about is teaching beginners with no grappling experience from scratch. It seems he teaches out of Hollywood Judo.
You definitely need uchikomis in Judo as needed even without the approach
@@fuhdawin510 my personal opinion is the same, just saying what I read.
Great video
Thanks for watching!
@joshbeambjj Cal Jones in the UK for Eco Judo. He is very well educated on the subject. Also a great 50 min video on RUclips of a class recording .
Thanks! I watched part of that video before, gonna go back and watch the whole thing
This video was great bro! Question, could you do a video on how the culture/etiquettes differ between BJJ schools and Judo schools? I’m currently at my purple belt in BJJ and I’m stoked to put on a white belt joining a judo school! Though I feel apprehensive that I will look foolish coming from a “chill” school into a more disciplined culture. Would I look somewhat foolish? Or has it been your experience that Judo student will be just as friendly as your hippy friends at BJJ? Thanks for your time.
Hey, thanks for watching! Oh interesting video topic, I wrote it down.
Tbh the judo club I joined is about as chill as any BJJ gym I’ve been to, if not more so. Actually the judo guys seem a lot nicer on average too 😂
Thanks man, that’s good to hear. I guess more specifically, at times I see a lot of bowing. Whether students are exiting/entering the mats or dojo. Or even before training. Where as my BJJ school is just show up ‘fist bump’ and train. I just would not want to appear disrespectful to the Judo etiquette. I just honestly don’t know how to do it ha
Ahhh good point lol yea I solved this by just bowing whenever someone else bowed at me 😂 They were all still pretty chill though.
@angelpsyche-toy5295 if you're really interested in learning about Judo, you should check out Shintaro Higashi's channel. He has plenty of videos and a podcast on this discussion and more. Probably the most indepth guy on RUclips. He also previously wrestled and has a black belt in BJJ.
The concept of an experienced judoka that has never done uchikomi (repetitive practice, or drills) is quite foreign. Your body has to perform the correct movement by feel (without thought) and make micro adjustments throughout, and it takes tens of thousands of proper repetitions to get there. I think you'll find that you can do small micro-games around things like movement, positioning, and kumite (gripping), but to throw a trained opponent you also need the grind of uchikomi and nagekomi. He seems to indicate that is where he does this in his brief answer. Oh, also the open side of your knot should face to your left. Later!
Has anybody ever told you that you look a lot like Sensei Seth? Great video btw!
Hahaha yes I’ve heard that! And I just dropped a new video with Seth: ruclips.net/video/QQNCzvwYuAY/видео.html
Judo bjj combine fighting style
I said on reddit to you on a previous video that you should just do Judo right handed if it feels more comfortable and ignore that it doesnt match your striking stance. That Jflo agrees makes me feel like maybe i wasnt wrong for once.
You could also just use both stances, but probably be more favored toward one side when first learning a technique.
I was wondering this lol. Cuz actually the techniques he showed (like with the cross grips and the yoko tomoes), those felt really comfortable for me to do lefty 😂 The only things that feel comfortable righty are my right footed foot sweeps and turn throws… Help!
@@joshbeambjj Not to add more confusion, but in traditional righty stance, sweeps are done with the left foot; lefties sweep with the right foot.
2:28 that sounds like JonThomas BJJ
Do you have pure unedited footage of the full seminar?
I do but I can’t release it unfortunately
Me watching this and seeing my instagram comment pop up 😄
Hahahaha small world 😂🙏🏻
@@joshbeambjj too small - keep making great content brother.
cool
Awesome video. I'm so jealous, I'd kill to go to one of his seminars (I'm in the uk, alas)
That grip is not illegal but if you stiff arm against the hips with it you'll get a passivity shido. It's just not a great grip as it doesn't offer the benefits of a high collar grip or proper belt grip.
Look up Cal Jones Judo constraint based approach if you want to see something like the ecological approach applied to judo.
Thanks for watching! Oof yeah I realize I cut the video in a way that made it sound like the grip was illegal, thanks for pointing that out.
Oh nice, great resource, thanks, I'll look up Cal Jones, hadn't heard of him before.
@@joshbeambjj he doesn't have much on youtube, I think there is one sample class he teaches, but he has been on a bunch of podcasts about sport coaching, written papers etc.
9:51 nothing about that grip is illegal. its not in the rules. I can see why she misinterpreted the rules though since in order to grip that low people tend to stiff arm more. You will get called a stiff arm defensive penalty for this, there's no penalty for that grip. Its the same kinda penalty as if you stiff armed in a LvR lapel grip.
Thanks for the comment to clarify! I think that may have actually been my fault with the way I cut the video/conversation. Thanks for pointing it out!
Do you know any good judo school in Los Angeles
Unfortunately no
Tenri, Hollywood judo, San Gabriel Judo, San Fernando Valley Judo, Valley Judo
@@syn3rgyz thanks
@@syn3rgyz what about the inland empire?
@@henry4553 Your best bet would probably be Goltz and Riverside Youth Judo. There's also discover judo but I haven't been there before. The first two are also mostly kids with few adults compared to the list I mentioned above.
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