Star Trek: TNG Review - 2x4 The Outrageous Okona | Reverse Angle
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- An annoying pirate boards the Enterprise to spread good cheer and sexually transmitted diseases alike.
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Fun fact: Billy Campbell, who played Okona, was one of the candidates for the role of Riker but was busy with "Crime Story" at the time.
I actually liked Okana the character. He's one of those "I wish there had been more, but like written better" side characters. Like he could have been the Harry Mudd of TNG. But also, did anyone else get that he wanted to bang Data? Like he was at least trying after coming on board, but got side tracked by all the other officers trying to bang him. Really felt like he was about to ask Data if he was "fully functional" but Westley was right there.
I think he wanted to bang everyone. Wesley certainly wanted to bang him.
If this was modern trek hima nd data would've banged for sure and they would've acted that it was such a huge bi sexual statement lol
@@drunkenmistake90Okona is my favorite bicon
Maybe that is Worf's personal soundtrack. How he imagines it.
At this point I find this episode legitimately funny. Data feels that he doesn't understand humans. He's baffled by the idea that Okona is supposed to be charming, and that Joe Piscopo is supposed to be funny. But the joke is that Data understands humans better than anyone, because we the audience are just as baffled as he is.
Okona Pirate looks like the real life embodiment of Link in those 80s Zelda cartoons. I keep expecting him to say " Well, ExcuuuUUse ME, Princess " . . .
"Mom I want Han Solo" "We have Han Solo at home"
Okona was the Han Solo of the Star Trek universe.
It definitely seemed like that's what they were going for. The difference was, I didn't hate Han Solo as soon as he came on screen.
Harrison Ford is too serious to be Han Solo.
Dash Rendar
Strong LucasArts protagonist vibes.
Of all the great comedians of the 80s I don't know how they landed on Joe Piscopo.
Probably the only one available on short notice after Jerry Lewis fell through.
@@reverseangle ouch
i thought he did really well in this. maybe he was a trek fan?
I swear..that man walked right out of Ice Pirates....
Frankly, I like Okona. I like when any character shows up that doesn't share Starfleet's insanely annoying attitude of moral superiority about, well EVERYTHING! If you really don't think he's the cool kid at Starfleet's lunch table then you need to take a good, hard second look at that lunch table and imagine what it would be like to sit there day after day.
Well said. Starfleet, for all their moaning, are extremely smug, self-aggrandizing, and sanctimonious. They'll violate the prime directive when convenient, but treat it as an edict from God when a civilization is doomed to extinction. They're uproot millions colonists on a whim (as with the flimsy, ill-considered treaty with Cardassia), but won't lift a finger to save the people of Boraal II.
They busy themselves with lame, poorly attended plays and concerts, bad paintings, and holo-fantasies, but almost all have strained or outright terrible relationships with their families.
Picard - terrible (occasionally violent) relationship with brother Robert
Riker -terrible relationship with father
Troi -tense, embarrassed and strained relationship with mother
Crusher - widowed.
Worf - twice widowed, terrible relationship with son, lots of family drama
Yar -orphaned and probably raped as a child
Data - brother issues
Geordi - couldn't get laid in a whorehouse if he was covered in $100 bills
Guiana -fuck knows what her deal is, but she didn't tell anyone about the Borg OR the Nexus for decades when that information would have been much more useful
And that's not to mention all the families they have destroyed by putting CHILDREN on board an exploration ship that is often in peril.
So can you really blame Okona for wanting to be free of all that bullshit?
@@kev3d I hadn't thought about how many of them have dysfunctional relationships but that's certainly true.
@@kev3d imagine seeing your coworkers everyday at work and after work you're ready to get laid with this hot guy who is finally not a coworker, a Klingon coworker invade your privacy by barge into your room unannounced and almost find you at compromised position.
Okona is absolutely a good actor. He plays The Rocketeer. Billy Campbell is his name. Seriously, that's really The Rocketeer. I think he could have played Riker, actually. He was a similar type to Frakes back then.
We had talked about that, but it got cut.
Soooo, are you saying he got to kiss BOTH Terri Hatcher AND Jennifer Connelly? That's why the universe feels so out-of-balance!
So, it was revealed on the Comic Book podcast recently that Billy Campbell and Jonathan Frakes were the finalists for Riker. Brought me back to all these clips. Sorry to these guys, but I actually liked this episode of TNG.
So you caught that Lois Lane was in this episode, but you didn't notice the Rocketeer playing Okana.
Strangely enough, a lot of the cast loved this episode.
Probably the only time when I though the episode was worse than your ratings ^^ I gave it an E+
I do like that Okana showed another kind of human lifestyle existing within/around the Federation, and how they accept this and dont try to limit his freedom or ability to be an independent agent.
It helps to suggest the Federation really isnt authoritarian in nature, which is refreshingly optimistic.
That is an interesting way of looking at it.
It suggests to me at how horribly inept and inconsistent the Federation is. Okona isn't oppressed per se, but they certainly look down on him. And yet he is doing what few are apparently able to do: fly special cargo where it needs to go. In a Federation allegedly devoid of money, there seem to be a number of entrepreneurs who work outside the system to turn a profit. This is true of Cyrano Jones in the original series, Okona of course, Vash, Quark in DS9, the black market ferry pilots in the Search for Spock, an so on. These people wouldn't exist if there wasn't need for their services. And they wouldn't do what they do unless someone was willing to compensate them.
Picard smugly tells a man from the late 20th century that people no longer desire the accumulation of "things", but it's clear that isn't true at all. Even Picard himself was given an extremely rare and apparently significant archaeological artifact, which he cherished and notably did NOT put in a museum.
It seems as though few, or no one, within the Federation seem to understand that people might not prefer the ersatz paradise of replicated food and holodeck fantasies.
The level of technology is so different between the colonists and the Enterprise. I wonder how do those colonists ever joined the Federation.
If the Federation doesn't share the technology, it should have been renamed Confederation.
@@kev3dI personally don't think the Federation is inept, but it's certainly lacks worldbuilding enough to provide context to their way of life. In my mind, when Picard is talking about the accumulation of things no longer being the status quo, I understood it to mean that the capitalist system of working for money in order to survive is no longer the standard way of self support on Earth. People might still accumulate things, they may even choose to earn things of value and exchange for other things of value, but survival is no longer predicated on earning. There would definitely need to be people who would interact with other spacefaring cultures with different values, so there would have to be a class of people who dealt with the various forms of commerce and trade throughout the galaxy. Starfleet, as the quasi-military arm of the Federation wouldn't engage in that type of interaction directly. Assumedly there would be a merchant-marine (merchant-astra?) style service as well as independent merchants that would permeate federation space and have a wide variety of backgrounds. There is a sci-fi series called "The Culture" consisting of a series of mostly unconnected stories in terms of plot, but take place in a post-scarcity, post-money, spacefaring society that goes in to some of the finer ideas of how such a society would function. It's worth a read. Written by Iain M Banks
You’re a droid, and I’m annoyed.
My timing is digital.
The fact this isn’t a F is astounding
The reason the guy isn't likeable is that his introduction starts off with a racial slur against the most threatening guy in the room. This dude is using prison psycology to assert his dominance over others. ...which funnily enough works on the females. But I can't blame the women, their options on the ship are ladies man Riker who's still hung up on his ex that he happens to work with(dianna), worf - a klingon who will probably break their bones during bedroom fun, and data - who they call up in the middle of the night when they get stood up because he's a fully functioning Zex robot.
The guy who played Okona was the runner up for playing Riker. This episode was like a consolation prize
News flash, Okona (the Rocketeer dude) was the 1st choice to play the character, 1st officer Cmdr William Riker, but ended up going with Johnathon Frakes. Excellent in my opinion...like most of the characters, they got better and better and the show went on.
4:45 After finding Okona Worf has to find more of Dr. Polaski’s hair.
this episode retcons The Naked Now. And we should let that slide
RUclips's closed captioning called this episode "The Outrageous O'Connor". :-)
They're armed with Lasers. Fwoof. Like a 1982 CD player.
It's that ship from Star Trek 3 again.
data specifies that he has never been drunk _on alcohol,_ and he can't volunteer more information than that about it because she told him not to.
edited to add: the emphasis in "Piscopo" is on the "piss"
The guy who did the music for the first two or three seasons as fired and your commentary has made me realize why!
You're right about Campbell's character being extremely annoying. I think he was better sticking to his rocket pack. Your analysis of the so-called "comedian" and Jerry Lewis was also very accurate.
Ughh, this episode. D. They dropped a lot of balls in this one (no pun, ok maybe a pun intended).
I remember watching this episode on TV once. It was painful.
I think Okana annoyed me because he was supposed to be a charming renegade, but he went WAY too heavy on the charm. Renegades tend to also be aloof, abrasive and morally questionable people. Han Solo is a perfect example. Okana just came across as an overly nice guy working way too hard to impress everybody.
Even if an episode of TNG is dumb, it's still a legendary and enjoyable show. And Billy Campbell is awesome, his drip is charisma. I like Okona, and think Campbell did well in the role. As to his costume, I bet money that it was an available costume from the Paramount Studios wardrobe department, so it absolutely could be from some other show or movie that had a pirate in it. A lot of sets, costumes, even actors on studio productions are in house, to save money.
You guys had me cracking up. Glad I've discovered the channel.
1:03 let me explain something to you about Hollywood rules. When actors make even the most infinitesimal vocal sound out of their mouths, they instantly become abajillion dollars more expensive. That's why the background extras don't talk.
Why would humans think abandoning your child is ok? That troi line annoyed me too
the worf jokes in this one are great.
It's lame when the character have to tell you what kind of character a character is. First rule of screen plays it to show, not tell.
I actually liked this one, but in my defense I was young and stupid at the time
PISKOPO?
It's Pis Kah Po.
Does anyone care
0:38 Did you do a Reverse Angle on the Rise of Not-Skywalker?
We have not.
Ourageous? Outrageous!
Man you two are the most uptight dudes ever.
give em a wedgie chief
Wesley is totally gay for Okona. Look at the way he smiles at him! lol
1:43 Who is Teri Hatcher and why should I care?
In the 1990s she played Lois in Lois & Clark: the New Adventures of Superman. In the aughts she was famous (and won some awards, I believe) for being one of the main characters on desperate housewives for eight years.
@@pennmike82 Well, they completely missed Billy Campbell, who played Okana, who was in Disney's The Rocketeer as the title character.
This was a good episode
Glad I'm not the only one who hates Okona
It's pronounced PISS-ca-po btw.
What about the 69 on the room number?
You guys are so generous. All shows have been to my liking except maybe Elmentary, My Dear Data which i gave a meh. But The Outrageous Okona was my first 0 star, 👎 or F+. Even the last show of the 2nd season was a F or half a star. The Outrageous Okona was the worst show of all TNG except for the half ass clone episode that had the sheep herders.
That's not how you pronounce his name homey
You guys are jealous of Okona because he is a megachad
_"Teri Hatcher is in this episode, for some reason."_ Was it because she wasn't a well known actor at the time?
Hatcher's minimalist role is almost misogynistic...
You two can stuff it i would have love this Mal Reynolds Daddy in a spin off better than Discovery everyday of the week.
Bollocks episode
Literally couldn't finish watching this! Wow, guys... Go do something else with your free time... *Facepalm*
Joe Piss Co Po
The "Star Trek: Balls" episode. They even have a Mawg in the form of Worf.
Why so many beards in these early Next Gens?
Joe Piss Copo? No. It's: Joe - Pis Cuh Poe - Piscapo... sheesh, you youngins need to brush up better on your subject matter, no rewriting history, nor pronunciations!
Also, that entire bit with Data was improvised, which explains why it's so inane and awkward to watch.