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  • @demonkingden915
    @demonkingden915 6 лет назад +951

    Fletcher Cox will be on this list one day

    • @demonkingden915
      @demonkingden915 6 лет назад +28

      @@konstantinosmassaras8263 He has done nothing but dominate for the past 3 or 4 seasons. The best player on the defense and probably one of the best d linemen in eagles history. (Behind reggie and jerome)

    • @demonkingden915
      @demonkingden915 6 лет назад +1

      @@konstantinosmassaras8263 this is besides the arguement were having, what's your all time eagle team? Like best player ever at every modern position on the eagles

    • @billthomas7975
      @billthomas7975 6 лет назад +26

      Kon, bro...Cox will retire as one of the ten best Eagles of all time. Don’t be throwing shade at people for speaking a very valid opinion. He’s been the best d-lineman this city has seen since the Reggie days. All out dominant force that changes games.
      Also, he was the best defensive player on a SB winning Eagles team, that says it all.

    • @seymourwhitetail4945
      @seymourwhitetail4945 6 лет назад +3

      Fletcher Cox should be ahead of Reggie White

    • @graykid4263
      @graykid4263 6 лет назад +11

      And Zach ertz

  • @bnop
    @bnop 5 лет назад +323

    “Why do you think you can fly”
    “Because I’m an EAGLE”
    Dat smile doe. SuperBowl LII nostalgia brought me here. Birds 4 life

    • @DylanASD
      @DylanASD 4 года назад +1

      Brian Nop SB LII will be only SB you win in the history of your franchise NO CAP

    • @benjihighlights6455
      @benjihighlights6455 4 года назад

      Dylan ASD wow I’ll remember that until next time we win a SB

    • @Burger-urger
      @Burger-urger 3 года назад

      It's a turbin football turf war in this bih

    • @TheAlmightyClipse
      @TheAlmightyClipse 3 года назад +1

      Fly Eagles Fly 🦅

    • @charlieligon7621
      @charlieligon7621 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@DylanASDshut up

  • @v3nzzzz
    @v3nzzzz 6 лет назад +520

    My Favorite Eagle and NFL player of all time is Dawkins.

    • @suukbang
      @suukbang 6 лет назад +3

      Eagles 8/30 mine too!!!

    • @Hayden-pp2dy
      @Hayden-pp2dy 6 лет назад +3

      Yet you have mah BOI Carson Wentz as your channel thumbnail lol

    • @supahbowla5418
      @supahbowla5418 6 лет назад +1

      For real, mine too!

    • @ivanli8881
      @ivanli8881 6 лет назад

      Why does your pic has Fletcher Cox

    • @isaacisidk-u3o
      @isaacisidk-u3o 6 лет назад

      suukbang same I was not even born when he played and yet...

  • @Goldensphinx
    @Goldensphinx 6 лет назад +777

    Randall Cunningham was Michael Vick before Michael Vick

    • @dacodawiteout4565
      @dacodawiteout4565 6 лет назад +44

      Randall Cunningham is Randall Cunningham

    • @Jpgoeagles
      @Jpgoeagles 6 лет назад +7

      Dacodawiteout theyre really not similar at all

    • @JulianWavy
      @JulianWavy 6 лет назад +20

      Randall started the dual threat qb he inspired vick

    • @Jpgoeagles
      @Jpgoeagles 6 лет назад +6

      Julian Shipp J.R. qbs been running since the 50s bruh

    • @JulianWavy
      @JulianWavy 6 лет назад +10

      @@Jpgoeagles he changed the game bruh

  • @DarthVix501
    @DarthVix501 6 лет назад +464

    “SPIKES IM GONNA TAKE HIS SOUL “ 😂😂😂😂 haha DAWKINS IS A BEAST

    • @MrRasheed7
      @MrRasheed7 6 лет назад +8

      I saw this video last night and I thought about that line all day today.. Dawk was serious problem.. The guy never even saw it coming.. Dawk doesnt even dive into guys or head hunt.. His arms are so big, he just hits you with the guns

    • @DarthVix501
      @DarthVix501 6 лет назад

      MrRasheed7 dude same. Its gonna one of those sayings that will stick with you lol

    • @birdgang4lyfe
      @birdgang4lyfe 6 лет назад +4

      Hallelujah! Thank You Jesus!

    • @gardetto265
      @gardetto265 6 лет назад +12

      20:45 haha he suplexed a guy like it's WWE "you gonna feel it Cooley, in tellin ya! YOU GONNA FEEL IT!"

    • @rimmyreddy788
      @rimmyreddy788 5 лет назад +2

      i remember that games...lol

  • @Tone22845
    @Tone22845 2 года назад +70

    21 sacks in a 12 game season is beyond insane

    • @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078
      @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078 Год назад +9

      You ain’t lying. It’s absolutely ridiculous. But here’s the stat of Reggie’s that blows my mind every time I think about it. It’s actually one of the most impressive stats in any sport on any level I’ve ever seen..
      In 8 seasons as an Eagle, he played 121 games. In those 121 games, he recorded 124 sacks. He *averaged* over 1 sack/game for *EIGHT* *YEARS*. So it’s not like it’s a short/small sample size. Absolutely bonkers.

    • @Tone22845
      @Tone22845 Год назад +3

      @@alexandriaocasio-smollett5078 what makes it crazy is it's more of a passing league now & you would think today's d-lineman would have more opportunities to hit the QB but they still can't match his numbers

    • @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078
      @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078 Год назад +1

      @@Tone22845 Great point

    • @JohnDo-iv2zn
      @JohnDo-iv2zn День назад +1

      He should have been number one no disrespect to Concrete Charlie but Reggie was better

  • @zAquilaa
    @zAquilaa 3 года назад +78

    Concrete Charlie is the physical embodiment of Philadelphia. Toughest guy on both sides of the ball, survived 30 missions as a pilot in WWII, drafted 1 overall, won 2 chips as an eagle, and is now a HOFer and made the NFL 100. Not to mention he never played for a team outside of Pennsylvania in middle school, high school, college, and the pros.

    • @cornerboyswag6479
      @cornerboyswag6479 2 года назад

      Bro you have more information then then video for god sakes , I'm from NY I'm like there's no way Reggie white not #1... Here ces number 1 I'm like cool , what did he do, wonder how there gonna speak highly of him, bro you said more than they did , they jus compliment his name ,,,, and worked with concrete ....no WW2 , he works with concrete ...THEY DIDNT EVEN BRING UP HE WON 2 CHIPS!, NUTS .... BUT THANKS FOR THE information .they should hire you

    • @JuliusC1973
      @JuliusC1973 2 года назад +3

      Yes. he flew Bombing Missions over Europe against German Flak Batteries and The Luftwaffe. After that, what could opposing players do that would scare him? Nothing.

    • @josephschmidt8284
      @josephschmidt8284 Год назад

      How many eagles games did he win in world war 2?

    • @FalseOracle617
      @FalseOracle617 Год назад

      idiot@@josephschmidt8284

    • @stevenslater2669
      @stevenslater2669 Год назад

      He was a waist gunner, not pilot.

  • @sajid1891
    @sajid1891 6 лет назад +648

    Nick Foles honorable mention lol

    • @williamblackfyre4866
      @williamblackfyre4866 6 лет назад +26

      And Celek.

    • @rswaggz12
      @rswaggz12 6 лет назад +7

      Jared Hutchins it was recorded this year because I saw Ertz TD in the video

    • @KDT864
      @KDT864 6 лет назад +2

      @@rswaggz12 They edited that in but the list wasn't.

    • @andrew.cash13
      @andrew.cash13 6 лет назад

      @@KDT864 it was released like yesterday

    • @KDT864
      @KDT864 6 лет назад +3

      @@andrew.cash13 The list is old, but they added clips to make it feel recent, I'm sure of that unless I'm wrong.

  • @ncnaiche6752
    @ncnaiche6752 6 лет назад +437

    Brian Westbrook should have made this list

    • @espi555
      @espi555 6 лет назад +1

      Naiche 💯

    • @melo4985
      @melo4985 6 лет назад +13

      Disagree. More like honorable mention, definitely ain’t a top 10 eagle all time

    • @michaeledwards1552
      @michaeledwards1552 6 лет назад +29

      @@melo4985 idk he carried that eagles team from like 05 -09 eagles had shitty receivers until they drafted Djackson and maclin

    • @ncnaiche6752
      @ncnaiche6752 6 лет назад +4

      Melo 498 I hear you, all I’m saying is all the years I been watching him he was beast mode lol & has some of the best RB Highlights

    • @melo4985
      @melo4985 6 лет назад +1

      michael edwards he was good, but definitely not a top 10 eagle all time

  • @malcolmcarroll2548
    @malcolmcarroll2548 6 лет назад +191

    Good list but...what happened to the end of the video? Chuck Bednarik's segment was way too short for #1. C'mon NFL Films!

    • @JS-ue2si
      @JS-ue2si 6 лет назад +7

      preach.

    • @falconater51
      @falconater51 6 лет назад +4

      @Harry Engel Merrill is a VERY close second

    • @janklebox7263
      @janklebox7263 6 лет назад +3

      Very disrespectful!

    • @andrewpadaetz5549
      @andrewpadaetz5549 5 лет назад +2

      @ZECTCustomUnit Exactly-his most memorable moment was his hit on Frank Gifford.

  • @JS-ue2si
    @JS-ue2si 6 лет назад +263

    What's with the abrupt ending?

    • @lurchlogan
      @lurchlogan 6 лет назад +14

      Yeah, I hate that. Chuck Bednarik is one of my all time favorite players & they talk about him for like a minute then the video abruptly ends!! Smh😒
      I do agree with the list though!! 👍

    • @sneakyjames01
      @sneakyjames01 6 лет назад +10

      The hit must've been so hard that it abruptly ended the video

    • @josephallen3072
      @josephallen3072 6 лет назад +3

      Yeah all these NFL videos end abruptly I've noticed. Super annoying.

    • @limericklad2000
      @limericklad2000 5 лет назад

      Countdowns tend to end abruptly with the number "1".
      Lulz.

    • @andrewpadaetz5549
      @andrewpadaetz5549 5 лет назад +3

      Forgot Bednarik's signature play-clobbering Frank Gifford (except during the intro revealing Bednarik as number 1)

  • @eliwenig3252
    @eliwenig3252 6 лет назад +463

    Brian Dawkins at 4???????? Maybe more like 1 or 2

    • @Jpgoeagles
      @Jpgoeagles 6 лет назад +32

      3 behind reggie and chuck

    • @MaxONeill403
      @MaxONeill403 6 лет назад +15

      He played twice as long as Reggie for the eagles. Plus he works for them now. He should be at least number 2

    • @zachmiller3610
      @zachmiller3610 6 лет назад +3

      @@MaxONeill403 But he was NOT as dominant.

    • @sykosteve777
      @sykosteve777 6 лет назад

      @Harry Engel #1 Worst fan = EDP

    • @Jpgoeagles
      @Jpgoeagles 6 лет назад +1

      yal need to stop hating on edp, hes a real fan, hes just over the top emotional but thats why we watch him in the first place

  • @kidwitdaflow8876
    @kidwitdaflow8876 6 лет назад +51

    Thank you for showing McNabb some Love! I appreciate everything he did for us with no WR’s.

    • @robskovira5626
      @robskovira5626 2 года назад +2

      That was the thing that always baffled me with Andy Reid. he always wanted to throw the ball but never brought in any good receivers except for that one year with TO

    • @dynamicascension981
      @dynamicascension981 3 дня назад +1

      @@robskovira5626he did draft desean jackson

    • @jeffreykline4088
      @jeffreykline4088 День назад

      He had T O and whiffed he definitely doesn't make my list . 04 there was probably 10 other qb in the league that year if we had them instead we win that sb

  • @fballmaster7952
    @fballmaster7952 5 лет назад +35

    I don't think people give McNabb enough credit and respect and admiration. I love the way he played the game, and had more grit than some of the best today. This man is a legend. An underrated legend. THX so much number 5 for so many memories!

    • @acewilliams7917
      @acewilliams7917 5 лет назад +2

      I'm a Steelers fan and I'm a big fan of McNabb. They're right, they wanted Ricky Williams and he would have left Philly hanging. McNabb was the better choice.

    • @eddixon2015
      @eddixon2015 4 года назад +2

      I definitely agree, McNabb was a great QB, I think the issue was that most Eagles fans didn’t like him.

    • @qwalitycontrol972
      @qwalitycontrol972 Год назад +1

      That west coast offense McNabb ran did not suit him. He never had much of a run game or help at receiver either.

    • @irishlad4723
      @irishlad4723 Год назад +2

      No doubt. Him and Dawkins are the reason I became an Eagles fan

    • @williamstocker584
      @williamstocker584 Год назад +1

      He broke his angle during a game and still threw 2 touchdown passes and people call him soft

  • @nickfolesfanclub7160
    @nickfolesfanclub7160 6 лет назад +45

    I love NFL films regardless because their quality is unbelievable *AND* this is an Eagles video, thank you Lord for I have been blessed today

    • @Jpgoeagles
      @Jpgoeagles 6 лет назад

      brian dawkins HALLELUJAH!!!

    • @tynao2029
      @tynao2029 6 лет назад

      unfortunately our beloved team is pretty bad right now we have all sorts of problems on offense and defense, timing and game speed is way off

  • @arkadiosvotessocialist8436
    @arkadiosvotessocialist8436 2 года назад +9

    "Why do you think you can fly? 'Cause I'm an Eagle."
    That's what makes that man great.

  • @brysnqb7
    @brysnqb7 6 лет назад +42

    20:06 THIS IS THE BEST PART

  • @louzer2566
    @louzer2566 5 лет назад +70

    Way to pay tribute to Concrete Chuck by cutting this clip short NFL.

    • @philly_szn1765
      @philly_szn1765 3 года назад +2

      He was one of the best eagles of all time great linebacker for the eagles and one a “champion chip”

  • @Liofa73
    @Liofa73 6 лет назад +11

    Randall Cunningham was the player that made me decide I was going to be an Eagles fan, watching NFL in the UK during the eighties when I was in high school.

  • @ethanallen890
    @ethanallen890 4 года назад +28

    Man I miss B-Dawk so bad... we need somebody like him on the defense now!

  • @West_Kagle
    @West_Kagle 6 лет назад +17

    . Cunningham is probably my favorite Eagle as well. That 1990 season they talked about was so good, that in the Tecmo Super Bowl game, which the player stats and abilities of that year is based, makes him unstoppable. Even is the defense is perfect and all receivers are covered, he can just run down the field. Let's also not forget, going back to real life, that he stepped in for the punter and booted one 80 yards.

  • @manciniman0562
    @manciniman0562 4 года назад +20

    Shady McCoy could of made this list. All time eagles rusher, and people forget he was the best RB in the league for a few years. I grew up on shady being our guy and he will always be my favorite player.

    • @GoodOlKAgang
      @GoodOlKAgang 2 месяца назад

      Just don't be a waiter/waitress serving him,,,leaves 1.00 tips😮😮,, notorious for that

    • @CreativelyUninspired596
      @CreativelyUninspired596 27 дней назад

      Tips are a privilege not a right😂​@@GoodOlKAgang

  • @defenderofthenorth52
    @defenderofthenorth52 6 лет назад +79

    “I’m gonna take his soul.” 😂😂

  • @billthomas7975
    @billthomas7975 6 лет назад +6

    Zach Ertz is officially Top 10. Dude is now a legend! SB winning TD catch, and he follows that up with the greatest season a TE has ever had.

    • @billthomas7975
      @billthomas7975 6 лет назад

      P.S. The Birds need to bring back those white helmets. Those caps were 🔥🔥🔥

    • @RheemQ
      @RheemQ Год назад +1

      This aged well

  • @beeftestosterone4355
    @beeftestosterone4355 6 лет назад +103

    Westbrook should be at least a mention

    • @therldrewduncan
      @therldrewduncan 6 лет назад +1

      I was thinking the same thing. He and McNabb, we're basically the entire offense for a while. But I guess if you did him you'd have to put Staley, as well.

    • @therldrewduncan
      @therldrewduncan 6 лет назад

      @Harry Engel Duce Staley....he played rb

    • @beeftestosterone4355
      @beeftestosterone4355 6 лет назад +2

      Drew Duncan and he’s the rb coach now

    • @badboybrent93
      @badboybrent93 6 лет назад

      I'd love to see Dawkins as DC someday

    • @kahgritty5643
      @kahgritty5643 6 лет назад

      And Duce

  • @pats.365
    @pats.365 6 лет назад +118

    I’ll save y’all time
    10. Cunningham
    9. Carmichael
    8. Jerome Brown
    7. Tommy McDonald
    6. Pete Pihos
    5. McNabb
    4. Dawkins
    3. Steve Van Buren
    2. Reggie White
    1. Chuck Bednarik

    • @V1C1233
      @V1C1233 6 лет назад +5

      Darth Aech uhm what?

    • @Liofa73
      @Liofa73 6 лет назад +2

      Pats.365 --- I guess you get your kicks spoiling things for other people. Makes you appear kind of lame.

    • @pats.365
      @pats.365 6 лет назад +11

      Liofa not spoiling, this is for anyone who doesn’t want to watch a 30 minute video

    • @brianflynn1500
      @brianflynn1500 6 лет назад +4

      Idk Seth Joyner needs to be on this list but idk who you would get rid of. Joyner bad ass dude

    • @georgesmith7107
      @georgesmith7107 6 лет назад

      Thanks

  • @ShawnFX
    @ShawnFX 6 лет назад +6

    I got so happy when I saw Merrill Reese in this video! Dude is one of the best commentators ever!

  • @ryange.8600
    @ryange.8600 6 лет назад +55

    R.I.P. Jerome Brown and Tommy McDonald and Pete Pihos and Steve Van Buren and Reggie White and Chuck Bednarik.

    • @dianasoucy8824
      @dianasoucy8824 6 лет назад +2

      Reggie White is still alive

    • @dianasoucy8824
      @dianasoucy8824 6 лет назад +2

      Never mind

    • @likeatree-ei8it
      @likeatree-ei8it 5 лет назад +2

      @@dianasoucy8824 That's right cause he was born again.

    • @itsdiamond3360
      @itsdiamond3360 4 года назад

      @@likeatree-ei8it K that is just wierd

    • @milesdiontre
      @milesdiontre Год назад +1

      Don't forget Andre Waters Wes Hopkins Clyde Simmons and Buddy Ryan 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😇😇😇😇😇🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️

  • @tomsnyder1410
    @tomsnyder1410 5 лет назад +6

    There is no doubt that Bednerick was the greatest Eagle ever. I met him when I was a kid in the 50's. He lived in an old row house in Bethlehem Pa. He gave me an autographed football which I naturally took with me to the playground where it was totally destroyed. ManI wish I still had that ball.

    • @dynamicascension981
      @dynamicascension981 3 дня назад

      That ball could have had you retired a few years earlier. Only if you auction it off in Philly.

  • @kevincloonan9787
    @kevincloonan9787 5 лет назад +7

    Wilbert Montgomery was one of my favorites my fondest memory was him scoring against Dallas in the 1980 NFC title game

    • @kwakuosei-tutu621
      @kwakuosei-tutu621 2 года назад +1

      Hell yeah, I still get goosebumps when I see and hear it.

    • @josephking2499
      @josephking2499 2 года назад

      Wilbert is also my fave of alltime and it's such a shame that he gets slighted this way....Wilbert, not McCoy, Waters, Westbrook or even Van Buren is the greatest RB in Eagles history

    • @mikehogg3991
      @mikehogg3991 Год назад +1

      Wilbert Montgomery was a machine! He ran the ball so many times a game and would grind out yards like nobody else! By the third and fourth quarter we were thinking, can this guy still push the ball down the field, and the answer is always yes

  • @brotherlylovestudios
    @brotherlylovestudios 6 лет назад +16

    I love my birds. So many historical players who were great characters on and off the field and many who still are today. Work hard, never give up, and we will love you forever. That blue collar work ethic is what we love to see. #FlyEaglesFly #BleedGreen

  • @jamez2fly92
    @jamez2fly92 5 лет назад +6

    Man the silver wings 🔥🔥🔥 wish we could at least wear the old school jerseys for 2 games. Was dope they wore them In 2010 I think

  • @defenderofthenorth52
    @defenderofthenorth52 6 лет назад +56

    I really thought Weapon X would be higher. Deserved to be higher I think.

  • @FizireYT
    @FizireYT 6 лет назад +3

    I'm a Giants fan but I have to say I loved watching Brian Dawkins play one of my favorite players at the time

  • @DevPack
    @DevPack 6 лет назад +8

    Man Brian Dawkins intensity is surely missed now. My favorite Eagle Weapon X!

    • @dynamicascension981
      @dynamicascension981 3 дня назад

      The intensity was accompanied with a particular level of violence that doesn’t occur nearly as much

  • @jffry24
    @jffry24 5 лет назад +13

    I cried when Jerome Brown died. It was one of the most devastating days of my life I really loved him. And he gave the Eagles and gang green defense said to be the second best ever in the history of the game. This is a man who played in the zone every game every play. There was no half ass he was in the zone he lived in the zone. Of course he should be on this list shut up

  • @emessick
    @emessick 5 лет назад +19

    Nick Foles is the #1 Eagle. He's the only one to get it done, he's the reason we were world champs. He outplayed the best QB in NFL history to get us a Superbowl win

    • @xaviervega468
      @xaviervega468 5 лет назад +1

      Bednarik got it done as well.

    • @vandanakotapally4121
      @vandanakotapally4121 5 лет назад +2

      not true, wentz lead the team to 11-2 record. plus he only had 2 good games. if he played all year I am not sure we would have made the playoffs

    • @vandanakotapally4121
      @vandanakotapally4121 5 лет назад

      Correction, 3

    • @theamaeve8175
      @theamaeve8175 4 года назад

      Bednarik, Pihos, McDonald, and Van Buren all got ships. They just played before the Super Bowl era.

    • @dustinarnold5569
      @dustinarnold5569 4 года назад

      You’re calling a guy who played a handful of good games for the team the greatest player they’ve ever had. That’s just sad. I guess clement should be on the list because he had a great game. Agholor is one of our greatest receivers then. Darby is one of our greatest corners. See how stupid that all sounds

  • @rudymikula7129
    @rudymikula7129 Год назад +5

    I loved Jerome Brown. His death tore the heart out of the Eagles. Jordan Davis reminds me of JB.

    • @vinceniederman
      @vinceniederman Год назад +2

      I Hear Jerome Was a Good Player and Nice Person Off The Field!

  • @TheSaltBoiCometh
    @TheSaltBoiCometh 5 лет назад +6

    “Hallelujah! Thank You Jesus!” I love B Dawk

  • @phillyeagle9073
    @phillyeagle9073 6 лет назад +3

    Wow! So many talent from all time, proud to be an eagle fan! #FlyEaglesFly

  • @EternalSkies1999
    @EternalSkies1999 4 года назад +4

    Pretty accurate list in my opinion. We had lots of great players over the years.

  • @jamespower1249
    @jamespower1249 6 лет назад +32

    My List
    10. Harold Carmichael
    9. Jason Peters
    8. Jerome Brown
    7. Steve Van Buren
    6. Brian Westbrook
    5. Donovan McNabb
    4. Randall Cunningham
    3. Chuck Bednarik
    2. Brian Dawkins
    1. Reggie White

    • @KingSoap-fy1oq
      @KingSoap-fy1oq 6 лет назад +3

      @Harry Engel come on dude get real. the best olinemen in eagles history. jason peters

    • @screamingsheik2264
      @screamingsheik2264 6 лет назад +4

      @Harry Engel have you not seen an Eagles game for the last ten years?

    • @UKCats-fx8sw
      @UKCats-fx8sw 6 лет назад

      I agree with your list more than theirs lol

    • @veratietsort9060
      @veratietsort9060 6 лет назад

      Putting Cunningham at at #4 is absurded enough but putting him a spot ahead of the Eagles GREATEST QB should be a crime making you my friend a criminal by my books

    • @bubbapacha7672
      @bubbapacha7672 6 лет назад

      12 is my fave alltime but 5 was better....move dawk to 3 cb to 2 and that would b my list

  • @Fraccy
    @Fraccy 2 года назад +14

    I hope in 2030 they update this list and we will get to see names like Cox, Ertz, Kelce, and Peters on there. They were absolutely insane, and deserve a crap ton of recognition.

    • @jaym6239
      @jaym6239 2 года назад +2

      I feel like Nick Foles prob gonna be on there

    • @Fraccy
      @Fraccy 2 года назад +7

      @@jaym6239 definitely not. As much as I love Foles, he doesn't deserve it just because of his 2017 playoff run.

    • @jaym6239
      @jaym6239 2 года назад +2

      @@Fraccy regardless of his playoff run or not he still delivered when others like McNabb have not

    • @BIGWILLY5004
      @BIGWILLY5004 Год назад

      Ertz prolly wouldn't be on there.Graham is more likely then Ertz. Kelce would probably be the highest ranked of the newer Eagles, that man's superbowl speech is a legendary moment in itself

    • @Yeah-w5d
      @Yeah-w5d Год назад +2

      @@jaym6239we’re talking overall career here tho

  • @albertorr740
    @albertorr740 День назад

    I'm 57. The list is perfect. I've seen almost everyone of those players live in a game or at an Eagles function. We are the greatest team in the NFL.

  • @GrabinBigBuns
    @GrabinBigBuns 6 лет назад +52

    People disliking the video must be patriot fans 😂

    • @apiratepanda4001
      @apiratepanda4001 6 лет назад +5

      Marquis Grant or people complain about comedians

    • @Froston1
      @Froston1 6 лет назад

      or cowboys fans

    • @Bubs-_-
      @Bubs-_- 6 лет назад

      TRUE DAT

    • @dianasoucy8824
      @dianasoucy8824 6 лет назад

      Pats and Cowboys are trash. LETS GO GIANTS!

    • @BigBossCQCLegend
      @BigBossCQCLegend 5 лет назад

      William Rivera shining 5 Tainted Trophies 🏆 Lmao

  • @spinner9057
    @spinner9057 5 лет назад +2

    Got to meet Tommy McDonald and get his autograph. Such an honor and privilege for me to do so. R.I.P. Tommy.

  • @dwightlove3704
    @dwightlove3704 6 лет назад +60

    Jerome Brown was the ORIGINAL WARREN SAPP

    • @Jpgoeagles
      @Jpgoeagles 6 лет назад +1

      thats what i was thinking

    • @DGKong
      @DGKong 6 лет назад +1

      Facts

    • @tmrevenge
      @tmrevenge 6 лет назад +1

      And he was even better than Sapp

    • @brucejones9317
      @brucejones9317 6 лет назад

      Brain Dawkins hard hit safety the best Eagles safety ever love that guy.

    • @отпирайте
      @отпирайте 6 лет назад

      CrushingRock nah

  • @prplprince8730
    @prplprince8730 4 года назад +1

    I had the pleasure of meeting my hero B. Dawk at a meet and great a few years ago. I told him he was the reason I began watching football and fell in love with the eagles. Not only did I get my picture with him he signed it for me and took the time to have a conversation with me. Whenever I feel like crap or sad times come in my life I look at that picture hanging on my wall or watch a Dawkins hype video and I would run through a damn wall afterwards. My heart says he is number 1 but I do understand why he is number 4. Go birds!

  • @villebryant4346
    @villebryant4346 6 лет назад +15

    Ron jaworski was pretty good to

  • @danielc3321
    @danielc3321 4 года назад +13

    If you don’t get the “QB Eagles” reference, you’re too young to watch this. 😂

  • @The_Almighty.
    @The_Almighty. 6 лет назад +14

    Thank you Donovan McNabb thank you Brian Dawkins thank you Jeremiah Trotter great players to follow great role models I'm glad I became an Eagles fan in their era
    McNabb never had help he had one receiver one year and he was on the cover of Madden 06 and offensive player of the year and I think NFL MVP for the 2004 season

    • @jimritzheimer7465
      @jimritzheimer7465 5 лет назад

      The Almighty well kinda singlehandely lost the super bowl with those three picks in the redzone. All we needed was a stinking field goal. They should have played Garcia that game, Eagles would have 2 super bowls

    • @williamthomas3359
      @williamthomas3359 Год назад

      Peyton Manning Threw 49tds and Culpepper threw 39tds in 2004, Culpepper was a distant 3rd in that year.

    • @BoosterGoldEarth6
      @BoosterGoldEarth6 Год назад +1

      Garcia wasn't even on the team and he was trash

    • @dogg5626
      @dogg5626 Год назад

      ⁠@@jimritzheimer7465you’re definitely a fake Eagles fan and no nothing about the team Jeff Garcia wasn’t even on the team 😂he played with the Cleveland Browns that year SMH

  • @deadvibez4978
    @deadvibez4978 2 года назад +2

    Honorable mentions to me are jon runyan, Brian Westbrook, Trent Cole and Jason peters. got to give a shout-out to shady McCoy as well

  • @plasticonopvp
    @plasticonopvp 5 лет назад +5

    Where’s McCoy? Biggest fan favorite of the past 15 years

  • @EmmaBonn96
    @EmmaBonn96 3 года назад +2

    I just love the concept of Harold Carmichael
    A 6’8” wide receiver
    I just
    I love it
    It makes me happy

  • @jeremiaheverett9806
    @jeremiaheverett9806 6 лет назад +59

    "Number 1 eagle of all time, nick foles"

    • @BabyDiazmusic
      @BabyDiazmusic 6 лет назад +3

      No but he HAS to be top five. Even though he doesn't have the longevity he was/is magical. I'm going to miss him next year. He is also directly responsible for Wentz. Traded for a first rounder to Rams Howie turned that into Wentz. Then he comes back and wins the Superbowl

    • @eaglejoe8
      @eaglejoe8 5 лет назад +2

      Foles wasn't traded for a 1st rounder. He, along with a 2nd round pick was traded for Bradford. After a season with Bradford, the Eagles held the #13 pick in 2016. They then traded Byron Maxwell, Kiko Alonso, and pick 13 to Miami for pick #8. Then traded pick 8, a 2017 1st, 4th, and 2018 2nd to Cleveland to move up to 2 to get Wentz.

    • @dhfhfhghfhdnnd4499
      @dhfhfhghfhdnnd4499 5 лет назад +3

      @@BabyDiazmusic you genuinely think nick Foles should be top 5?? your delusional

    • @dissapear7072
      @dissapear7072 5 лет назад

      Dhfhfh Ghfhdnnd where would you out him

    • @jimritzheimer7465
      @jimritzheimer7465 5 лет назад

      He will be a hero in the city of Philadelphia for the rest of his life

  • @curiouslymavismade
    @curiouslymavismade Год назад

    Usually I have so many arguments with these lists, but I can genuinely say this list is perfect.

  • @defenderofthenorth52
    @defenderofthenorth52 6 лет назад +117

    Tom Brady lost the Super Bowl to a backup QB.

    • @captain__castle3177
      @captain__castle3177 6 лет назад +11

      defenderofthenorth52 if you think tom brady lost that game you are crazy man tommy straight up threw for 500 yards BB definitely is the reason they lost

    • @Jpgoeagles
      @Jpgoeagles 6 лет назад +12

      isaiah castillo tom brady dropped a touchdown and fumbled in the clutch that is the definition of losing the superbowl

    • @defenderofthenorth52
      @defenderofthenorth52 6 лет назад +5

      isaiah castillo also he did lose the game and Nick Foles did win the Super Bowl. You can throw any stats around you want, Brady took the L here lol

    • @MrColeemon
      @MrColeemon 6 лет назад +7

      When a team sport consists of 53 players, wins and losses are rarely credited to a single player. You've got to have a terrible game for that. Brady threw over 500 yards 3 tds and zero picks for passer rating of 115. Guess how many quarterbacks have thrown for over 500 yards and zero picks and lost....
      Brady's the only one.
      The Patriots defense and special teams units get the most blame followed by the patriots offense for this particular loss. Belichick is primarily in charge of defense and special teams units, while Mcdaniels and Brady primarily run the offense. Belichick gets more blame than Brady for this loss.

    • @mclohan
      @mclohan 6 лет назад +4

      Cold Winter Are all of you Brady fans this big of liars? Other QBs are not 36-0 when throwing for 500 yards! In fact it hasn't been done 36 times even, you lied and inflated that number to make it seem even more crazy. The 22 times QBs have thrown for 500 yards, they have a record of 13-9! P.S. his passer rating was 115 not 117...just stop lying dude, just stop.

  • @Cynsham
    @Cynsham 10 месяцев назад +2

    Brian "Weapon X" Dawkins was one of the absolute best safeties to ever play NFL football

  • @briansshare
    @briansshare 5 лет назад +11

    20:04 "Spikes I'm gonna take his soul"

  • @HiddenHarmonics369
    @HiddenHarmonics369 2 года назад

    crazy after 30 + years to remember some of those plays so vividly

  • @BlakeRobinson14
    @BlakeRobinson14 6 лет назад +91

    #1 Nick Foles ... glad they got this one right ....

    • @ghenry4513
      @ghenry4513 6 лет назад +4

      Yeah honestly, I don't think how long or how many years you play has anything to do with if you were in the top ten list. Stats alone are never enough in football; it's about winning the big games- that's what makes players great. My list would go like this:
      10. Pihos
      9. Van Buren
      8. Westbrook
      7. Ertz
      6. White
      5. Bednarik
      4. TO
      3. Dawkins
      2. Nick Foles
      1. Wentz
      Honorable mention: Jeffrey, Blount, Cox, Graham, Jenkins, McNabb, Celek, Jackson

    • @mandocam1354
      @mandocam1354 6 лет назад +18

      Your list is a joke.

    • @ghenry4513
      @ghenry4513 6 лет назад +2

      Nope. Best players to ever put on a uniform for the Eagles, right there. Period. No questions about it. Forget how long they played or how they padded their stats. It's how you show up and play in the big time and big game. Playoffs don't cut it and if you can't shine on the top stage then you don't belong on any 'greatest' lists.

    • @OceansBane
      @OceansBane 6 лет назад +5

      That list shows how much of a millennial you are. I guess Riley Cooper should also be on here because of his 3 tds vs the Raiders when Foles threw 7 tds.
      Many of those players before the AFL/NFL merger and modern day players didn’t “pad” their stats. Go watch the NBA if you want padded stats.

    • @jagsnation6721
      @jagsnation6721 6 лет назад +2

      @@ghenry4513 no offense bro but your list is straight up Dookie

  • @patrickoconnor1077
    @patrickoconnor1077 Год назад

    Good to see guys on this list that goes back further than 40 years. 🦅

  • @jamez2fly92
    @jamez2fly92 5 лет назад +6

    They gotta bring the all whites with green wings in the helmets 🔥🔥🔥

  • @jhot2478
    @jhot2478 4 года назад

    1:28 GOD DAMN!! those old eagles uni's, silver pants and kelly green helmets in the old meadowlands stadium...nostalgia is a hell of a drug lol

  • @datman3416
    @datman3416 3 года назад +3

    “Tommy McDonald was the last one on the field to know if it started to rain”
    Excellent short joke lol

  • @einzelganger6664
    @einzelganger6664 4 года назад +3

    11:34 why the hell is there a dallass cowgirls game on in the background on like 5 different TVs? Yikes!

  • @ggi1447
    @ggi1447 6 лет назад +48

    Dawkins is #1

    • @Jpgoeagles
      @Jpgoeagles 6 лет назад +6

      not over reggie white

    • @itree4
      @itree4 5 лет назад +3

      No, he's not.

    • @paysonfox88
      @paysonfox88 5 лет назад +3

      I'd put him at #2 behind only the great Reggie White. In terms of effective impact on a game that is, not in loyalty. I'd put Dawkins #1 in Loyalty. Dawkins is still the only visiting player to receive a standing and enthusiastic ovation by the Eagles' crowd -- WITH THOUSANDS OF BRONCO #20 JERSEYS in the crowd -- worn by Philadelphia fans.
      The love that city had for Dawkins is unreal.

    • @Mick0722MX
      @Mick0722MX 4 года назад +3

      @@paysonfox88 There's no way anyone could justify putting anybody over Bednarik. Let's be realistic here.

    • @eddixon2015
      @eddixon2015 4 года назад

      Brian Dawkins was good, but he was the third best safety of his era. He’d have been fourth if Bob Sanders could have stayed healthy. Reggie White is easily better, and nobody beats Concrete Charlie in Philadelphia.

  • @1neOfN0ne
    @1neOfN0ne 3 года назад

    I'm too young to have watch Harold Carmichael play but my ex girlfriend worked with his daughter in law. She actually got to meet him once and she said she couldn't believe how tall he is but also how down to earth and friendly he is. She told him I was a diehard Eagles fan so he actually signed one of his jerseys for me, I still have it framed on my wall... Best birthday gift I've ever received.

  • @znull_24
    @znull_24 6 лет назад +3

    Nice vid love it

  • @kinhason46
    @kinhason46 Год назад

    Pete Pihos, said of him 'never dropped a pass", tough as nail, WWII vet, served under Gen George Patton, Bronze, & Silver Medalist, definitely defined what we know as the tight end! Philadelphia's 1948 & 49 NFL Champion, an Eagle thru 1955! I cheered him on as my earliest memories as a toddler! Pro Hall of Fame inductee 1970!

  • @DarthVix501
    @DarthVix501 6 лет назад +25

    Imagine Jerome Brown nowdays with Cox and The rest of our D...

    • @Jpgoeagles
      @Jpgoeagles 6 лет назад +7

      dont stop there.. dawkins at fs with jenkins at ss then swap jalen mills with assante samuels and we good

    • @timzhai890
      @timzhai890 6 лет назад +4

      gone too soon, rip 99

    • @philly_sports1558
      @philly_sports1558 6 лет назад +3

      Darth Vix My Dad always tells me that Fletcher plays exactly how Jerome used to play. A great defensive tackle that suffocates the run while being a threat in the pass rush, too. And watching footage of them side by side, it's easy to see why.

    • @Jpgoeagles
      @Jpgoeagles 6 лет назад

      michael edwards mills is still my guy, il still take him over cary williams and bradley fletcher any day. he gets beat sometimes but hes got guts

    • @saulndahcpt
      @saulndahcpt 6 лет назад

      I can’t his 💀

  • @zachmoore6620
    @zachmoore6620 Год назад +2

    I got Brian Dawkins autograph on a football when he was at a Wawa grand opening lol

  • @James-xx4kb
    @James-xx4kb 6 лет назад +32

    Cunningham should’ve been higher up this list, around 5 or 6

    • @vouswillis7025
      @vouswillis7025 6 лет назад +5

      When it started and had him #10, I paused, scrolled to see the rest of the list... typed this comment and closed the video... Maybe I don't know a ton of Eagles history but Cunningham qas awesome to me growing up. #10 seems too low.

    • @Viper8828
      @Viper8828 6 лет назад

      cunningham should be 5 or 6, mcnabb is 11 n westbrook 10

    • @Jpgoeagles
      @Jpgoeagles 6 лет назад +1

      James8107 he was awesome but he wasnt mcnabb

    • @neilm2794
      @neilm2794 6 лет назад +4

      The Eagles of his era had a championship defense and were stuck with him at QB. Maybe if he bothered to learn the playbook or studied film or generally gave a crap he could have been ranked higher. Definitely NOT top 10.

    • @cut--
      @cut-- 6 лет назад +1

      AGREED , CUNNINGHAM INVENTED THE RPO ! WHICH CHANGED THE GAME FOREVER!

  • @Gungho73
    @Gungho73 6 лет назад +2

    Jerome Brown absolutely deserves to be on the list. There are few teams where the disappearance of a player like that sucked the soul of the locker room. They dedicated a season towards him. White may have been a "better" player because of what we know now, but Brown was the heart of that team just on the tip of his potential; losing him tore the heart out of that organization.

    • @Gungho73
      @Gungho73 6 лет назад

      Absolutely Harry. He was an all pro player two years in a row before he died, one year with 9 sacks, the other without needing to stuff the sack sheet. Eagles Hall of Fame, No. 99 retired, and was on their 75th anniversary team. 5 years was all it took for the Eagles organization to do all those things, so how would anyone find him not worthy of a top 10 slot as a result?

  • @ZhangtheGreat
    @ZhangtheGreat 6 лет назад +3

    No questions asked, if you know your Eagles history, you'd know Chuck Bednarik is number one by a mile. Yes, most fans today remember how awesome Dawkins, Reggie, and Randall were, but the one player who epitomizes what it truly means to be a Philadelphia Eagle is Concrete Charlie. Dude was tough as nails, never took a play off, and excelled regardless of wherever he was on the field (offense or defense).

  • @gmsthisvilekingdom3390
    @gmsthisvilekingdom3390 2 года назад +1

    Bdawk highlights in 05 is why I started playing football

  • @michaeluphoff4749
    @michaeluphoff4749 3 года назад +3

    I am a little surprised that Norm van Brocklin wasn't even mentioned. I know he spent the vast majority of his career with the Los Angeles Rams and only had three or four seasons with the Eagles. However, the man led the Eagles to the 1960 NFL Championship over the Green Bay Packers, which was the only playoff defeat for Vince Lombardi and Bart Starr. I would remove Randall Cunningham and put Norm van Brocklin at #8, moving Jerome Brown and Harold Carmichael down one spot each.

  • @jacksonconley5117
    @jacksonconley5117 Год назад +1

    Top 10 Eagles Players in My Opinion:
    10. Randall Cunningham
    9. Pete Pihos
    8. Tommy McDonald
    7. Harold Carmichael
    6. Donovan McNabb
    5. Reggie White
    4. Jason Kelce
    3. Steve Van Buren
    2. Brian Dawkins
    1. Chuck Bednarik

  • @KingSoap-fy1oq
    @KingSoap-fy1oq 6 лет назад +3

    Top 10 Eagles of today !
    1.Carson Wentz( i have to put him at one he is our future and we all love him)
    2.Jason Peters
    3. Zach Ertz
    4.Fletcher Cox (tied with)Nick Foles
    5.Jason Kelce
    6.Malcolm Jenkins
    7.Brandon Graham
    8. Lane Johnson
    9.Alshon Jeffery
    10. Brent Celek (iknow he is a year retired but still foreal )

    • @cut--
      @cut-- 6 лет назад

      Jason Peters IS the LEADER OF birds.. this post is post playoffs. Not sure what's going on with QB in 19. We had a good season considering all the injuries.

    • @jonklippert2083
      @jonklippert2083 5 лет назад

      D. Jackson

    • @vincentpistoia9034
      @vincentpistoia9034 3 года назад

      Wentz is trash you can’t be serious.

  • @nickbradford5760
    @nickbradford5760 6 лет назад +8

    20:05 that is a automatic deserving NO. 1 all time type of story right there 💯💯💯 Takeo said he was like "I'm gonna take his soul" ... SON... Dawk was possessed #20 😂😂😂

  • @dcbandnerd
    @dcbandnerd Год назад +2

    20:06
    "I'm gonna take his soul."
    Brian Dawkins is just built different.

  • @TBSandNFL
    @TBSandNFL 6 лет назад +13

    Vince Papale?

    • @TBSandNFL
      @TBSandNFL 6 лет назад +3

      This is top 10 eagles, not top 10 best eagles.
      Vince Papale is an icon in Philly and definitely deserves to be on this list

    • @justingoodhart8489
      @justingoodhart8489 4 года назад

      @@TBSandNFL A Philadelphia Icon does not mean he's a top 10 Eagle. His story is wonderful but he didn't make amazing contributions... he didn't even make the team the year the Eagles went to the Super Bowl. Have to look at this objectively

    • @ZhangtheGreat
      @ZhangtheGreat 4 года назад

      He's a fan favorite, but top 10 all time? Not even close.

  • @John-ci8yk
    @John-ci8yk 2 года назад

    Bucko Kilroy , number one. Thanks for the video, thumbs up.

  • @calebkinsley441
    @calebkinsley441 5 лет назад +15

    Carson Wentz and Fletcher Cox will be on this list one day

    • @FlickDad
      @FlickDad 5 лет назад +1

      Caleb Kinsley psssshhh Wentz will go down as a “what might have been” story...he had talent, but so did RG3, and Luck

    • @FlickDad
      @FlickDad 5 лет назад

      Buns Loco and? I never said any of the them were the same or had similar careers. I said all three will share the same reflection in football history: greatly talented players who could have had huge success.

    • @gabem1l732
      @gabem1l732 4 года назад

      Probably Fletch, maybe not Wentz, but he still is a great player

    • @richardcheng3288
      @richardcheng3288 4 года назад

      Cox yes, but Wentz needs to prove more.

    • @smittyshighlights969
      @smittyshighlights969 3 года назад +1

      😂 Carson wentz?

  • @freeman4real
    @freeman4real 2 года назад +1

    Randall Cunningham didnt play for the Eagles for long but he REVOLUTIONIZED THE QB position!!

  • @jacmandora1
    @jacmandora1 6 лет назад +26

    No Norm Van Brocklin?!?!?!

    • @bunbunson27
      @bunbunson27 6 лет назад +6

      he was only on the team for 2 years. Hes good, but as eagles greats...he aint greater than Mcnabb or Cunningham

    • @joejay4646
      @joejay4646 6 лет назад +2

      He's as much of a Rams great as he is an Eagles great.

    • @KingSoap-fy1oq
      @KingSoap-fy1oq 6 лет назад

      iknow right

    • @xaviervega468
      @xaviervega468 5 лет назад

      Van Brocklin was more a Ram than an Eagle.

  • @lucasborja3797
    @lucasborja3797 6 лет назад +2

    I LOVE IT!!! EAGLES TO THE GRAVE

  • @kensod6034
    @kensod6034 5 лет назад +3

    Jerome Brown was a beast

  • @johnwilkins3995
    @johnwilkins3995 Год назад +2

    Trent cole is underrated. Amazing rusher

  • @derdampfhammer6652
    @derdampfhammer6652 5 лет назад +3

    Reggie White.....best Eagle/defensive lineman of all time.

  • @PentePatrolReacts
    @PentePatrolReacts 5 лет назад +2

    Forgot to mention Steve Van Buren almost being late for the ‘48 Championship

  • @Rockhound6165
    @Rockhound6165 6 лет назад +9

    I'm not an Eagles fan but the fact that they left Wilbert Montgomery off of this list makes this list invalid.

    • @phillyeaglesphan
      @phillyeaglesphan 6 лет назад

      Studa Baker whose he replacing on that list?

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 6 лет назад

      Tommy McDonald. McDonald was good but Wilbert was a game changer when healthy.

    • @bobbywizdum5248
      @bobbywizdum5248 5 лет назад +1

      Montgomery? How about mccoy?

    • @jorgerecuenco9376
      @jorgerecuenco9376 5 лет назад

      Studa Baker you are 100%right

  • @puddingwh0le918
    @puddingwh0le918 Год назад +1

    No. 5 will always be no.1 in my heart.

  • @RGsmokinthathunnitHMNdawgpound
    @RGsmokinthathunnitHMNdawgpound 6 лет назад +22

    Dawkins should be number 2

    • @itree4
      @itree4 5 лет назад +1

      Over Reggie White? Have you lost your mind?

  • @charlesnolan7602
    @charlesnolan7602 День назад

    I met Jerome, February 26,1992 - it was an Orlando Magic 76ers game- halftime, section F. My buddy Mike spotted him. We were Section F row 12.

  • @tonyclark3277
    @tonyclark3277 6 лет назад +12

    Randall Cunningham and Mike Vick I got them as my all time favorite players

  • @flylights6933
    @flylights6933 6 лет назад +2

    RIP: Tommy Mcdonald (1934-2018)

  • @icetea3400
    @icetea3400 6 лет назад +6

    I'd move Dawkins up at least one more, but cool list. Also Jason Peters belongs on this list. Honorable mentions should include Jon Runyan, David Akers, Trent Cole, Brian Westbrook, Jeremiah Trotter, and maybe Tra Thomas

    • @Jpgoeagles
      @Jpgoeagles 6 лет назад

      yeah dawkins should be number 3 no question

    • @JS-ue2si
      @JS-ue2si 6 лет назад +2

      Nah dude. You gotta think outside the early 2000s. Bob Brown and Jerry Sizemore were way better than Runyan (Runyan went to the Pro Bowl once); Akers was great but he's a kicker; Simmons has more sacks than Cole; you could argue McCoy and Montgomery had better careers than Westbrook; Maxie Baughn, Bill Bergey, Alex Wojciechowicz, and Seth Joyner all had better careers here than Trott; you could make a case for Thomas being at 10, and certainly a case for Peters, but they won't get as much respect because they're offensive linemen.

    • @icetea3400
      @icetea3400 6 лет назад +1

      @@JS-ue2si Yeah not gonna lie, don't know most of the players you mentioned all that well since I didn't start watching the birds until 04. I think Peters should be on this list regardless though. One of the best players in the league for 5+ years. Anyway, Go Birds 😤

    • @JS-ue2si
      @JS-ue2si 6 лет назад +1

      Word.

    • @FluffyBunny9002
      @FluffyBunny9002 6 лет назад

      I'd also add Mike Quick and LeSean McCoy.

  • @nellspams6915
    @nellspams6915 6 лет назад

    This just put a smile on my face

  • @jeffworrill4918
    @jeffworrill4918 6 лет назад +3

    Good list. I thought Bill Bergey would be in there somewhere.