I really respect that part of your advice is to talk to a professional. It makes me feel like the guidance you are giving is trustworthy because you know the limits of the information you are able to provide in a RUclips video. I’ll definitely be checking out your exercises and seeking further help if my pain continues! Thanks & Keep up the honest work!
I get this quite frequently. My doctor has just been giving me pain killers and inflamatory treatment and it does not work. What has fixed iy for me and I do this EVERY time to fix now is to hang from a bar with a very wide grip position and pull all I can on the hurting shoulder. There is a loud pop and quite painful bud the next day it is completely gone. Hope it can help someone but be careful and don't injure your self more. I found this from getting sit of waiting for it to pass and just going climbing anyways. The sholder moves allways seemed to fix it.
Wow, thats a nice Channel. I would welcome something about Bizeps Tendonitis, with pain closer to the Elbow, not the shoulder. I can't find anything about that on the Internet and my local Doctor is useless. Anyway: Keep up the good work and i hope this grows!
I re-started bouldering training about 6 weeks ago after a long break during COVID and have developed SIS (did the tests accoridngly). It's not very painful but noticeable on both shoulders to the same degree. The discomfort began about a week ago. My plan is to dial back the training intensity and allow myself enough time to recuperate while doing the SIS recovery (strengthening) excersises recommended in this video. Thank you so much for the info!
@@HoopersBeta just an update. I’ve discovered that my main issue may be a muscular imbalance between my pectoral muscles and my shoulders. I incorporated focused shoulder exercises into my workout to even things out a bit. I’m also taking vitamin C and D regularly and I am logging my nutritional intake to see if it helps. Most of the information I’ve gathered has come from your channel so many thanks to you and your team!
Great info as always. This me 100% - went to PT for SIS but quit bc all the info is online and I felt like my care wasn't good enough to justify the cost. I feel it more in the rear delt now, seems to have migrated. I've been working on my scapular dyskinesia (wings) bc I think my SIS is posture-related. I still climb but not as hard as I used to.
Great video, straight to the point. Are some people more prone to SIS then others? I had my long term SIS fixed with great help from my PT recently, but I feel like I've got to watch out for it to not sneak back at me.
All the tests seem to indicate I have a mild case of SIS, but the pain I'm experiencing feels like it's more in the front towards the inside of the joint/near my chest- is this normal or is it indicative of anything in particular?
Do you tink that SIS can be caused because doing pullups with wrong method? I've started doing pullups because I can't go climbing because of quarantine. Can be this the cause of shoulder pain? Very good video! Thank's and excuse for my bad writting english skills.
It's possible, yes, particularly if you went from doing minimal pull-up training to doing 100 a day :) Load management is key here. But there are some other factors as well you can look at with your training that can contribute to shoulder pain! Here they are 1) not controlling the bottom of the motion (example, quickly lowering once you reach the top because you are tired) 2) resting a lot at the bottom and just "hanging" on your shoulders 3) performing far too many narrow grip pull ups without good and equal shoulder activation.
@@HoopersBeta Wow!!!! I feel identified with most thinks you say that maybe I do.... thanks!!! I will start with the rotator cuff exercices in the other video and try to recover (it's not very painfull but I prefer to avoid serious injury). Thank you very much!!!!!
I pass all the rotator cuff tests but I still have a ton of clicking and popping in my shoulders, no pain with the sounds. But I was told I have unstable shoulders. After years of doing my therapy exercises the popping is still there and only occasionally do my shoulders feel a dull ache. Physical therapy three times without a diagnosis except instability and nothing has changed
Thanks for sharing! This is one of those situations where the comment just gives me more questions. How unstable? What are the exercises? Was there progressive overload? Were the exercises challenging the correct muscles? And what is the origin of the clicking anyway, because often clicking is quite benign in the shoulders (they are very mobile with many structures surrounding them that can cause clicking). Basically, if your therapist isn't a climber / climbing specialist, perhaps you should see one?
@@HoopersBeta thanks for the reply! How do I find a physical therapist/climber? Is there a good way to search for that? I think it's shoulder crepitus btw. And inch worms, external rotation, and ITY raises
So I have an SIS ! I think it's due to too much compression style bouldering without warming up properly. It's been 4-5 days, should i start doing rotatif cuff exercises or should I wait a bit more so i'm sure it's not gonna be painfull ? By the way, can I continue to climb and just avoid shouldery moves ? Thanks you for everything Doc !
When I do the Hawkins test with my left arm, at 45°, it hurts just by pushing on my hand with one finger.. my whole left side feel so weak I can't even hang from the bar with only my left hand. Crazy..
Not sure if you check your old video comments but curious to know if you have a video covering shoulder clicks when doing pullups?? I dont think its SIS
Yes we do see old video comments :) but no nothing regarding that. Shoulder clicks can be somewhat benign if it is not painful. But that may require an individual evaluation and may not be as appropriate for a general video.
ok so i do check the list for the "painful arc test" but i don't feel any pain at all doing the hawkins - kennedy test. why would this be? Also could I have gotten SIS from benchpressing with bad form? like benching with my elbows flared out and bar not far out enough?
Try doing the painful arc test again but with your elbow bent to 90 degrees. It can take some of the weight off of the supraspinatus. If it is less painful that way, it may be a supraspinatus muscle issue rather than a SIS issue. And yes, benching (primarily increasing weight too quickly and/or losing good form) is a common irritant. Sorry to hear of it though!
Since the shoulder is quite mobile, with many bony prominences, and many muscles that help control it, it's hard to say what it exactly means. Clicking/popping without pain is often quite benign, though. It's typically just a small error somewhere such as 1 muscle being slightly too tight, etc.
As always, don't forget to read the show notes!
When you're in your 20's you feel invincible. But after reaching 35-40 all the old injuries will come back to haunt you. Great video!
Heh heh heh. Wait until you’re 60.
Try 23
Nah man I’m 20 and I already feel like that😂
I really respect that part of your advice is to talk to a professional. It makes me feel like the guidance you are giving is trustworthy because you know the limits of the information you are able to provide in a RUclips video. I’ll definitely be checking out your exercises and seeking further help if my pain continues! Thanks & Keep up the honest work!
I get this quite frequently. My doctor has just been giving me pain killers and inflamatory treatment and it does not work. What has fixed iy for me and I do this EVERY time to fix now is to hang from a bar with a very wide grip position and pull all I can on the hurting shoulder. There is a loud pop and quite painful bud the next day it is completely gone. Hope it can help someone but be careful and don't injure your self more. I found this from getting sit of waiting for it to pass and just going climbing anyways. The sholder moves allways seemed to fix it.
How’s the shoulder
2 weeks of kinesiology tapes and the pain was gone in my case
Thank god. I have impingement, and not a rotator cuff issue. Super cool tests! Thank you for simplifying (some of this) for self diagnosing.
i am thinking (hoping) the same after watching this.
I found passive hanging very helpful with my shoulder impingement
Wow, thats a nice Channel. I would welcome something about Bizeps Tendonitis, with pain closer to the Elbow, not the shoulder. I can't find anything about that on the Internet and my local Doctor is useless.
Anyway: Keep up the good work and i hope this grows!
Thanks for the feedback! Share with your friends ;) Good idea! I'll get to work on that, it would make for an awesome video.
I re-started bouldering training about 6 weeks ago after a long break during COVID and have developed SIS (did the tests accoridngly). It's not very painful but noticeable on both shoulders to the same degree. The discomfort began about a week ago. My plan is to dial back the training intensity and allow myself enough time to recuperate while doing the SIS recovery (strengthening) excersises recommended in this video. Thank you so much for the info!
That sounds like a great plan! Sorry to hear of your discomfort but happy to hear that you developed a great plan :)
@@HoopersBeta just an update. I’ve discovered that my main issue may be a muscular imbalance between my pectoral muscles and my shoulders. I incorporated focused shoulder exercises into my workout to even things out a bit. I’m also taking vitamin C and D regularly and I am logging my nutritional intake to see if it helps. Most of the information I’ve gathered has come from your channel so many thanks to you and your team!
This channel is so good! Thanks for all this info
Glad you enjoy it!
Wow, love the video. Great info and very clear, thanks!
Great info as always. This me 100% - went to PT for SIS but quit bc all the info is online and I felt like my care wasn't good enough to justify the cost. I feel it more in the rear delt now, seems to have migrated. I've been working on my scapular dyskinesia (wings) bc I think my SIS is posture-related. I still climb but not as hard as I used to.
Very very good, thank you man!
Amazing and to the point, thank you!
Great video, straight to the point.
Are some people more prone to SIS then others? I had my long term SIS fixed with great help from my PT recently, but I feel like I've got to watch out for it to not sneak back at me.
My shoulder slight pain thanks you for this info :)
Hope it helps! :)
Quick question! Should I stop climbing and weight training while I rehab?
All the tests seem to indicate I have a mild case of SIS, but the pain I'm experiencing feels like it's more in the front towards the inside of the joint/near my chest- is this normal or is it indicative of anything in particular?
Do you tink that SIS can be caused because doing pullups with wrong method?
I've started doing pullups because I can't go climbing because of quarantine. Can be this the cause of shoulder pain?
Very good video! Thank's and excuse for my bad writting english skills.
It's possible, yes, particularly if you went from doing minimal pull-up training to doing 100 a day :) Load management is key here. But there are some other factors as well you can look at with your training that can contribute to shoulder pain! Here they are 1) not controlling the bottom of the motion (example, quickly lowering once you reach the top because you are tired) 2) resting a lot at the bottom and just "hanging" on your shoulders 3) performing far too many narrow grip pull ups without good and equal shoulder activation.
@@HoopersBeta
Wow!!!!
I feel identified with most thinks you say that maybe I do.... thanks!!! I will start with the rotator cuff exercices in the other video and try to recover (it's not very painfull but I prefer to avoid serious injury). Thank you very much!!!!!
I pass all the rotator cuff tests but I still have a ton of clicking and popping in my shoulders, no pain with the sounds. But I was told I have unstable shoulders. After years of doing my therapy exercises the popping is still there and only occasionally do my shoulders feel a dull ache. Physical therapy three times without a diagnosis except instability and nothing has changed
Thanks for sharing! This is one of those situations where the comment just gives me more questions. How unstable? What are the exercises? Was there progressive overload? Were the exercises challenging the correct muscles? And what is the origin of the clicking anyway, because often clicking is quite benign in the shoulders (they are very mobile with many structures surrounding them that can cause clicking). Basically, if your therapist isn't a climber / climbing specialist, perhaps you should see one?
@@HoopersBeta thanks for the reply! How do I find a physical therapist/climber? Is there a good way to search for that?
I think it's shoulder crepitus btw. And inch worms, external rotation, and ITY raises
Hi, my elbow is hurting when I climb or hangs . Can you please explain why?! Thanks hooper
So I have an SIS ! I think it's due to too much compression style bouldering without warming up properly. It's been 4-5 days, should i start doing rotatif cuff exercises or should I wait a bit more so i'm sure it's not gonna be painfull ? By the way, can I continue to climb and just avoid shouldery moves ?
Thanks you for everything Doc !
When I do the Hawkins test with my left arm, at 45°, it hurts just by pushing on my hand with one finger.. my whole left side feel so weak I can't even hang from the bar with only my left hand. Crazy..
Sounds like you have a few things to work on!
@@HoopersBeta 😂
Not sure if you check your old video comments but curious to know if you have a video covering shoulder clicks when doing pullups?? I dont think its SIS
Yes we do see old video comments :) but no nothing regarding that. Shoulder clicks can be somewhat benign if it is not painful. But that may require an individual evaluation and may not be as appropriate for a general video.
ok so i do check the list for the "painful arc test" but i don't feel any pain at all doing the hawkins - kennedy test. why would this be? Also could I have gotten SIS from benchpressing with bad form? like benching with my elbows flared out and bar not far out enough?
Try doing the painful arc test again but with your elbow bent to 90 degrees. It can take some of the weight off of the supraspinatus. If it is less painful that way, it may be a supraspinatus muscle issue rather than a SIS issue. And yes, benching (primarily increasing weight too quickly and/or losing good form) is a common irritant. Sorry to hear of it though!
What does it mean if I have popping/clicking as I come down. It’s in the range of 60-120
Since the shoulder is quite mobile, with many bony prominences, and many muscles that help control it, it's hard to say what it exactly means. Clicking/popping without pain is often quite benign, though. It's typically just a small error somewhere such as 1 muscle being slightly too tight, etc.
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