These are phenomenal tips, brother. I've actually been thinking of many of these exact things to help new pilots focus on the skills that really matter.
Thanks for watching bro! Ever since I saw Steele's video about how people obsess over gear and not the actual skills, I've been thinking about tips like this. I just feel like the actual flying part is too often neglected, and I think that's bad for the hobby!
For myself, throttle expo was Godsend! I do a lot of cinematic flying, 3" whoops, 3.5" quads, long range 5" and 4" racing quads among others. When I started the 'bouncing' I was getting especially the more the quad was level, braking, going through gaps and such, when there's more thrust to altitude or hovering than directional momentum I'd see it the most. I know I'm in a small segment of people who really lean on throttle expo but it works for me. Whenever I'm building a quad I'll typically set the hover to 35 and the throttle expo to .70 which is low on the hover and high on the expo but if someone is having trouble with throttle control, especially proximity flying, give it a shot. I do think this is still applicable for freestyle quads but to achieve snappy maneuvers when flying say Spang you'll want much less expo. Hope this really helps someone who's struggling with these issues
Great tip! I suppose it’s all about what style/purpose you’re flying with. It’s kind of tricky to find a perfect one size fits all setting for me as I like to have a bit of flow but also incorporate some high throttle tricks into my flights.
I have been working on a 6-8’ ceiling tree thicket and trying not to hit puddles after the rain. Very motivating to not crash. Camera angle made a huge difference for me.
Interesting material, I still hear how important the throttle is, still working on it, but each session brings some effects, after each worse comes a better one :D
Great stuff, man! I hadn't thought of throttle expo, but I've added a llittle to the quad I'm taking out in a few minutes. Leaf canopies are a great way to orient yourself in the flying space, as long as you either stay below the canopy, or far away enough to manuever clear of the upper part of the tree. I'd just add flying in a sim - yeah, yeah, but flying a set of gates on a level patch of ground can help sort out the thrust direction at different roll orientations, and it's convenient for adding some sort of extra stick time.
I have noticed through this hobby (6 years in) that racers are better freestyle flyers and quicker learners when it comes to tricks etc. They HAVE to learn throttle control to not balloon around gates etc. Throttle is key. I was getting much better as an old guy a couple of years back as I was flying nearly daily, but dropped out due the $ I was dumping. Trying to spread too thin with too many models and sizes, buying parts, frames and keeping them in the air. That being said I know I would improve with digital, but that's not my reality atm.
Totally agree! I think part of it too might be the naturally RC talented probably trend more towards racing at first. Might have to make a part 2 for this, I think adding racing practice irl/sim is super helpful!
I appreciate the love! I think one reason is the small community, and I also have not been doing it long. I just want to help the FPV community grow, and hopefully entertain people along the way. The numbers will come as long as I can hit those two goals 🙂
When I was a kid I used to be a sprinter in the sport of track and field. I used to wear ankle weights prior to every race. It made my feet feel lighter and faster after I removed them before each race. That said, I learned really good throttle control when I learned how to fly a 2s brushless whoop in my house... comfortably. In my case it was the first Mobula 7 and it wasn't easy. I could only practice when my Wife wasn't home. If I accidentally broke anything, I just gave her the "3Ds". No, it's not what you're thinking. We've been together over 30 years now. In my case the "3Ds" means deny, deny, deny! Just makes me even more thankful for my pets and grandkids. Of course, I never blamed anyone. Just left the possibilities for my wife to figure out. (Heh heh heh)
Thank you for the tips what sort of camera do you. As a newbie I started at 20 then went to 25 now im thinking more like 40 as better i think for certain tricks.
I hope they help! I currently use 25 but I've been considering moving to 30 as I get faster and more technical. 25 seems to be a pretty good mix of "trickability" and speed. Anything above like 35 scares me, that would be too fast for most of my flight haha.
@@propabilityfpv Completely agree! I do find that diving is a issue when first starting to climb as when I’ve been at around 25 in order for me to see the top building I have tilt up more then that causes the drone to drift away from the building so i basically have to fly up without really seeing the top! Thanks for reply I appreciate you!
Interesting, could be just the ground interfering with the signal? I've had similar experiences too. When you climb back up at the same distance away does it improve?
If you're interested in learning about what could possibly be the factor, try learning about what the 'Fresnel Effect' is. It has to do with what ProbabilityFPV is referring to. Quick note on the effect, if the Rx or the TX are high, off the ground, it should make a better signal. So, at the same distance from the pilot, if the copter is high in the air, the signal should come back. And if the copter is close to the ground, but the pilot (radio & goggles) are high up off the ground, the signal should come back.
@propabilityfpv with beta flip scaling the throttle it makes it amazing I still have full stick, and to be honest 85 is still enough power to do everything and not draw all me amps
@@propabilityfpv which brings us to another suggestion don't use your keyboard, use the transmitter you're going to be flying with if you do. The keyboard is not going to help you. 😉
Thanks for watching! Drop me a sub if you enjoyed the video! 😀
These are phenomenal tips, brother. I've actually been thinking of many of these exact things to help new pilots focus on the skills that really matter.
Thanks for watching bro! Ever since I saw Steele's video about how people obsess over gear and not the actual skills, I've been thinking about tips like this. I just feel like the actual flying part is too often neglected, and I think that's bad for the hobby!
Definitely implementing these tips, thank you for sharing!!! 😁❤️
For myself, throttle expo was Godsend! I do a lot of cinematic flying, 3" whoops, 3.5" quads, long range 5" and 4" racing quads among others. When I started the 'bouncing' I was getting especially the more the quad was level, braking, going through gaps and such, when there's more thrust to altitude or hovering than directional momentum I'd see it the most. I know I'm in a small segment of people who really lean on throttle expo but it works for me. Whenever I'm building a quad I'll typically set the hover to 35 and the throttle expo to .70 which is low on the hover and high on the expo but if someone is having trouble with throttle control, especially proximity flying, give it a shot. I do think this is still applicable for freestyle quads but to achieve snappy maneuvers when flying say Spang you'll want much less expo. Hope this really helps someone who's struggling with these issues
Great tip! I suppose it’s all about what style/purpose you’re flying with. It’s kind of tricky to find a perfect one size fits all setting for me as I like to have a bit of flow but also incorporate some high throttle tricks into my flights.
Thank you very much for your Suggestions! Could you suggest a video tutorial on Throttle control tuning on Betaflight ?
I have been working on a 6-8’ ceiling tree thicket and trying not to hit puddles after the rain. Very motivating to not crash. Camera angle made a huge difference for me.
Glad to hear it!
Interesting material, I still hear how important the throttle is, still working on it, but each session brings some effects, after each worse comes a better one :D
Great stuff, man! I hadn't thought of throttle expo, but I've added a llittle to the quad I'm taking out in a few minutes. Leaf canopies are a great way to orient yourself in the flying space, as long as you either stay below the canopy, or far away enough to manuever clear of the upper part of the tree. I'd just add flying in a sim - yeah, yeah, but flying a set of gates on a level patch of ground can help sort out the thrust direction at different roll orientations, and it's convenient for adding some sort of extra stick time.
Using expo after seeing this makes me want to deactivate the scaled throttle limit now. More punch + less scary mid stick. Thanks!
I have noticed through this hobby (6 years in) that racers are better freestyle flyers and quicker learners when it comes to tricks etc. They HAVE to learn throttle control to not balloon around gates etc. Throttle is key. I was getting much better as an old guy a couple of years back as I was flying nearly daily, but dropped out due the $ I was dumping. Trying to spread too thin with too many models and sizes, buying parts, frames and keeping them in the air.
That being said I know I would improve with digital, but that's not my reality atm.
Totally agree! I think part of it too might be the naturally RC talented probably trend more towards racing at first. Might have to make a part 2 for this, I think adding racing practice irl/sim is super helpful!
Really nice, thank you!
Happy to help!
Very useful video. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
This guy has some real info not random crap. I don't know why he does not have even a 100,000 subs. Keep up the good work :) !
I appreciate the love! I think one reason is the small community, and I also have not been doing it long. I just want to help the FPV community grow, and hopefully entertain people along the way. The numbers will come as long as I can hit those two goals 🙂
@@propabilityfpv Love the mind set. With that attitude and mine set I think your goals are totally achievable 🙂
Throttle... is EVERYTHING
Cheers from aus
absolutely brilliant advice mate, thank you for making and sharing
Glad it was helpful!
Decreasing my throttle middle from 50 to 27 on my nazgul made it super easy to controll and having lower bitch props 🥳🥳😍 great video
Great to hear! Sometimes it’s nice to have that midpoint a little lower 👍
nice tips, thanks
I hope they help!
Great video.
Thank you! 😊
Thank you👍
Hope these tips help!
Very nice 👍🏻
Great Tips my friend!
Su.
Aloha
Thank you! Hope they help!
u forgot about esc settings. Lowering PWM frequency can help with low throttle res
Didn’t forget, just didn’t know! Thanks for the tip! 👍
When I was a kid I used to be a sprinter in the sport of track and field. I used to wear ankle weights prior to every race. It made my feet feel lighter and faster after I removed them before each race. That said, I learned really good throttle control when I learned how to fly a 2s brushless whoop in my house... comfortably. In my case it was the first Mobula 7 and it wasn't easy. I could only practice when my Wife wasn't home. If I accidentally broke anything, I just gave her the "3Ds". No, it's not what you're thinking. We've been together over 30 years now. In my case the "3Ds" means deny, deny, deny!
Just makes me even more thankful for my pets and grandkids. Of course, I never blamed anyone. Just left the possibilities for my wife to figure out. (Heh heh heh)
Hahaha I truly enjoyed reading this comment. Good stuff 😂😂 Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the tips what sort of camera do you. As a newbie I started at 20 then went to 25 now im thinking more like 40 as better i think for certain tricks.
I hope they help! I currently use 25 but I've been considering moving to 30 as I get faster and more technical. 25 seems to be a pretty good mix of "trickability" and speed. Anything above like 35 scares me, that would be too fast for most of my flight haha.
@@propabilityfpv Completely agree! I do find that diving is a issue when first starting to climb as when I’ve been at around 25 in order for me to see the top building I have tilt up more then that causes the drone to drift away from the building so i basically have to fly up without really seeing the top! Thanks for reply I appreciate you!
Good Tips!
Thanks for watching!
Nice! Subbed!
Much appreciated 😀
"Don't be afraid of trees" ..yeah! Been there! Had to climb over 15 meters to recover the drone! 😂 (Video online)
Haha we’ve all been there, good workout at least 😂
Don't try and fly like anyone else. Just be yourself.
i've noticed when i'm really low low to the ground, my LQ drops Immiditly, even within 150m. I use Crossfire with tango 2 on 250mw 150hz.
Interesting, could be just the ground interfering with the signal? I've had similar experiences too. When you climb back up at the same distance away does it improve?
If you're interested in learning about what could possibly be the factor, try learning about what the 'Fresnel Effect' is. It has to do with what ProbabilityFPV is referring to. Quick note on the effect, if the Rx or the TX are high, off the ground, it should make a better signal. So, at the same distance from the pilot, if the copter is high in the air, the signal should come back. And if the copter is close to the ground, but the pilot (radio & goggles) are high up off the ground, the signal should come back.
Throttle expo was hard to dial in, i scaled my throttle down to 85percent that gave me a lot of resolution
That’s a great idea! Makes it easier to learn then you can scale back up when you’re comfortable 👍
@propabilityfpv with beta flip scaling the throttle it makes it amazing I still have full stick, and to be honest 85 is still enough power to do everything and not draw all me amps
Good info. Liked and sub'd.
I hope it helps, thanks for the sub!
Just got my first FPV and found I could fly it around the house instantly -- but ran into this problem pretty quick
Fpv is one of those things that’s fairly easy to DO, but very difficult to do well!
I tell people a quad is like flying a jet ski...no air foil
for those who dont know yet fpv shouldnt feel like you are playing flappy bird . throttle control is more important to master than anything else
Fantastic analogy, couldn’t agree more!
Use a simulator
Lol that too, but eventually you've gotta get out from behind the keyboard and get real stick time.
@@propabilityfpv absolutely!
@@propabilityfpv which brings us to another suggestion don't use your keyboard, use the transmitter you're going to be flying with if you do.
The keyboard is not going to help you. 😉
@@MadDragon75 Haha ain't that the truth!