I don't think the film intended either. They picked two people who are both disingenuous, right and wrong. Nick mostly is an activist to get laid. But Roland is no hero either he risked his and his crews lives to kill a big animal then complains about all the death. Nic starts starts loving animals then curses the trex for not understanding his intentions. Roland starts as a brutal trophy hunter then decides he has spent too much time around the company figuratively of killing and ingen "the company of death." I bet nic turns hunter killer Roland throws out his firearms and trophies.
@@aspie-anarchist9854 All you say is true. But with Roland. He is a thrill seeker. Have you seen his deleted scene? He is such a good hunter he is bored with his life. He fully expected to die on isla sorna. This was the ultimate hunt. However the death of his best friend and the men under his leadership most likely made him appreciate living .
@@danskyl7279 Or would he? I'd like to see him being taken in as easily by some bathroom refit merchant as Dr Alan Grant, seeing as he had given up being in the company of death, and could probably spot a well-off salesman BS artist a mile off. ;-)
@MotteHerald He'd had walked straight out when the Kirbys claimed they'd been on every adventure tour going. He'd have heard of them if they had and he'd have known full well just by looking that they weren't the adventurer types. Edit - If the Kirbys were honest with him though, he might well have agreed to help them find their son.
His character was awesome. Usually I don’t care for trophy hunters, I hunt for meat, but I hold nothing but respect for Roland. I’m pretty sure I’d stick near him if I was on that island.
@@chancellorpalpatineakathes6130 I'd rather take a wolf on, one 12 inch skewer up thru the bottom jaw to the brain and you're no longer prey, large cats give 0 shits remember apocolypto that panther was getting impaled left and right continued to maul its prey
@@silence6813 Still, though if Roland wants a challenge, then a Raptor would too make a great trophy. In the deleted scene; Roland stated to Ajay that they were too successful together.
He had a terminal illness but acted up until the last, I think Inception was his final role; he was Cilian Murphy's sick father in his dream (kind of ironic with it being in hospital/death bed) RIP P.P.
@@Gmoviesmoothie - Pete Postlethwaite's last four films were Clash of the Titans, Inception, The Town and the independent production Killing Bono. Despite having minor roles in each, it's interesting to note that his characters met their demise in all but the final film. His portrayal of The Florist in The Town was exceptional IMO. The part where he boasts about drugging Ben Affleck's mother up to the extent that she took her own life is genuinely chilling. Great actor.
@@Duncman92 I know right!? He's without a doubt the most unlikable protagonist of any JP movie considering that he's more or less responsible for all of the bad stuff that happens in this movie! If it weren't for him they wouldn't be stuck on the island! And if it weren't for him then there wouldn't be a giant t-rex rampaging in San Diego!
@@avae5343 Pretty much. I mean despite being one of the protagonists he's not likable considering that he's more or less responsible for all of the bad stuff that happens! Like i said if it weren't for him letting all of the dinosaurs out then all of ingen's equipment wouldn't be destroyed. And if it weren't for him then the rex parents wouldn't have shown up and pushed the trailers off the cliff and ate Eddie! And also if it weren't him taking the bullets out of Roland's gun then the male rex wouldn't have been tranquilized and taken to san diego!
@@nicolascarmona6815 I know. That's why i said i don't blame him when he provoked Nick into a fight considering that he was more or less responsible for why they're trapped on the island. Add to the fact that he also letted all of the dinosaurs out of their cages under Dieter's watch made his fight with Nick more personal considering that he was the reason why they're trapped on a dinosaur-infested island.
I like how despite Ian, Nick, and Sarah, let the animals loose and destroyed their equipment (even though they deserved it for capturing the animals), they still rescued them and had them tag along toward the village. Great scene from the movie. Not my favorite of the franchise, but better than some others.
Mine too. It reminds me of the dinner scene in JP1. Not to sound like Spock imitating a film critic but it really is a fascinating study of social class, race, gender, accent, posture and height. Roland’s got money and he earned it so he doesn’t feel the need to throw his shoulders back and keep butting in like Nick. Sarah’s a shortarse so she just stands next to the tallest man who might back her up, since she knows her voice is winey and annoying (listen to the nasal on “one”) when she tries to explain her theories under pressure. Ludlow is a winey toff coward so he just stays next to Roland and Ajay. Ian’s used to being taller than everyone else and he’s got used to no one believing him so he’s not even trying to hold his head up. He’s just gripping onto his daughter and hoping being a father will convince people to listen. And Ajay probably knows full well no one listens to him (long grass) so he’s got the quiet confidence and slight arrogance of a man who knows full well his white best friend’s taller than him, women will let him walk through the middle of them (Mombasan bar scene) and he could outfight pretty much everyone there if he wanted to (scowl at sexually assaulting tourist in bar scene) but his race doesn’t give him respect when he speaks so he doesn’t.
You’d think InGen would give detailed info about the Raptors to everyone on the mission considering how dangerous they were. Yet Roland’s second in command doesn’t know a thing about the most dangerous dinosaurs on the island.
Call it a plot hole if you want but there's a scene of Roland literally throwing away the dinosaur documents ingen gave him during the hunt on the game trail. It doesn't take a huge leap in logic to assume guys like Roland or Dieter don't really care about the dinosaurs, just that they get to hunt them.
@@anarchohelenism Plus Ingen's plan was to stay away from where the raptors were so didn't bother to inform them about something that wasn't on their agenda
Honestly, I'm surprised that they didn't simply leave Nick there. Tell him to find his own way off the island. *Edit* - 0:50 - Hold up. "Since you've destroyed our equipment". So they KNOW the release of the dinosaurs in their camp was intentional. And Nick has been identified as an environmental activist and "saboteur", in Roland's words. Fuck, they probably SHOULD have just left him there. They don't have to harm him. But they're under no obligation to help him in any way. For their own safety, they probably should have told him to take a hike. How many people died because Nick sabotaged Rolands elephant gun? At a time when he was trying to protect the camp from the buck T-Rex. *Edit edit* - Just checked. So at least two people lost their lives, maybe more. Whilst Roland was trying to prepare enough of the tranquilizer to replace his sabotaged weapon. More lives if we're including those back in the city, due to incorrect dosage issued to counter Roland's rushed tranq job, that almost killed the sedated rex. Jesus, Nick is a sociopathic monster. *Edit edit edit* - Dammit, I can't stop thinking about this. Imagine if you're in a crisis situation and there's someone going around stabbing the bags of donated blood, or cutting the cables on defib kits. The mission is 'scrubbed' and Nick continues to sabotage equipment? The guy is insane!
Agreed. Nick sabotaged Roland's entire camp and as a direct result all of the vehicles Roland and his team had and forms of communication were destroyed by the dinosaurs Nick and the others freed. This was all Nick's fault. As well as Ludlow's.
I'm surprised that Ian and his friends still consider Nick as part of the team considering that he's the reason why they almost got pushed off of a cliff by two angry T-Rex parents. Add to the fact that he also took the bullets out of Roland's gun (which resulted in the latter being forced to used tranquilizer darts in order to incapacitate the male Rex when it shows up at the camp site) makes Nick an even more unlikable and unsympathetic character even by JP standards.
I understand Nick wanted to keep the animals safe but dude, he should’ve took pics of them all and sent them to PETA or something. Expose them nationally. Not fuck up their chances of survival. I’m a hunter like Roland (not nearly as skilled) so I’m trying to understand where his mind was at. All those 3 were armed with was a powerful Tranquilizer gun and it was lost with Eddie.
Jurassic World is good and has a fluent and well-structured story. And the only time action comes into it is bcs it pushes the story along and effects the narrative. Fallen Kingdom is also very good. However, it struggles a bit more as it is split more-so into twi seperate short films that take place a couole days apart so pacing is weird. But both of the acts are really good. The Death of Isla Nublar is very good, its a catastrophic and large scale event, with the Lockwood Manor then being a small, personal issue that could have MASSIVE reprocutions (should the indoraptor get out alive) this is helped by both having great action and good fun scenes with a cool premise. Dominion sadly, falls short. Its rushed, relies a lot on the nostolgia and action. Scenes like Malta chase are epic new renditions of Jurassic Park/World action and exactly what we want from dinosaurs being on the mainland. The whole Biosyn sanctuary ruins it a lot. The scene with the Rex and Giga standing off (a build up for their fight at the end) is really good and shows these animals arent killing machines but rather, actual animals with thoughts and instinct and know when to walk away from a dangerous fight that isnt in their favour. The leading cast performances really help that film, but a lot of it is ruined, we've waited 30 years for dinosaurs to get on the mainland, and we finally get it and only see the issues with it for about 45 minutes, then the rest of the film is in a isolated area away from the public. So Id say Jurassic World, Fallen Kingdom are two good films (not on the same level as the first two Jurassic Park films) But both of the 3rd films in either trilogy, have cool ideas (JP3 does an outstanding job of building up and preparing for Jurassic World) but felt too rushed and both failed to be as scary or fun than the others.
@@johnnyngo2896 or just Pete should have his own movie at that time of course lol totally agree tho Roland would definitely show the Predator he would be a worthy hunt
@@stevencarter8801 Don't forget that he got Eddie eaten by the Rexes considering that he brought their baby into his trailer in order to fix its broken leg.
2:45-2:55 okay so she knows all of this but yet she still carries around the jacket covered in baby T-Rex blood. Sarah was honestly the worst part of this movie
@Paleo PH He's awful too hes responsible for most death if not every death in the movie But at least he was consistent with what he was there to do Sarah says so many things but then does the opposite
To imagine that Nick van Owen was in the first jurassic park working for dogson instead of nedry he would have been the perfect bad guy for the first movie
"The Rexes may continue to track us..." They did, because miss indiana jones kept her Baby Rex blood-tainted shirt on instead of throwing it in a puddle of mud.
The one thing I hate about Roland was how he basically disrespected Eddie's death like that. I get why he was annoyed with Ian and the others (from his POV), but still Eddie gave his life so his friends could live. You think a guy like Roland would have some respect towards that.
He did he just focused on the situation which was pretty drastic since the trex who he planned to catch of guard was now on guard and fully pissed off to the maximum of mother fatherly rage so yikes it’s not that he lacks empathy it’s more like focus on who you have to keep alive and how
He also makes a valid point, the Rex's won't come after them unless they're hungry again, and given the size Eddie was compared to the Rex's it wouldn't be long before they're hankering for human again
@@Pagan20-08 Not really. I mean they eat hundreds of pounds of meat a day, and compared to the usual animals they hunt Eddie must not even half the size. Plus, the two Rexs broke him in half when they ate him.
@@danskyl7279 Not a bad theory but who got Kelly there then? She was left in the high hide and she turned up with that group. Unless Roland found her when she was on her way to rescue her dad, of course. See, that’s what fanfiction is for, for filling those gaps. :) Pity I’ve got writer’s block from perfectionism and I can’t seem to fix it, or I’d write that missing scene myself.
@@ken45y That’s a good theory too. Or, having thought about it, maybe she just used the harness herself or just climbed down by getting to a nearby tree. She’s a gymnast after all so I’m sure she could handle heights and wet trees without slipping and dying.
"Did you think that, what, a couple dozen Marlboro men were going to make the difference here?" I always come back to that line. Such an underhanded dis.
@@johnnyngo2896 I’m not sure where you got wouldn’t hurt a fly from. He caused pretty much every single death in the whole film through his actions and he used to photograph war zones before this film. He could handle himself but I would’ve loved Roland to punch him hard enough to knock him off his feet at one point, but it never happened. I wish it had though, it would’ve been an awesome callback to Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner, the song they got the names Roland and Van Owen from. But maybe that would’ve come across as too much of a callback. I don’t know, I don’t write films for a living, for a very good reason! Lol
@@ghostmadlittlemiss When i say wouldn't hurt a fly i mean he doesn't like hurting others in any way considering that he's a goody two shoes tree hugger who can't stand bad behavior in any way (i.e. fighting and violence).
My money's on Dieter considering that Nick's a pansy who doesn't like violence unlike Dieter who's not above getting into fights with anyone who provokes him in any way.
@@kimtieu8680 I don’t know where everyone’s got that interpretation of his character from, I really don’t. He causes every single bit of violence in that film, just about, he photographed war zones before being hired to do wildlife photography on Sorna and if he pulled his gun sabotaging trick in a war zone, he got people killed there too.
The hunters had every right to call Ian and his friends out considering that it was their fault for why everyone's trapped on a dinosaur infested island.
Not gonna lie but seeing Dieter goad Nick into a fight is without a doubt the most satisfying comeuppance for him considering that it was his dumbass fault for why everyone's trapped on the island! Add to the fact that Nick was responsible for destroying the camp under Dieter's watch makes his fight with him justified!
@@stemple11100 I know that. It's just that there should've been security near those dinosaur cages considering that if there was some security guards near those cages then Nick and Sarah wouldn't have opened all of those cages and thus they wouldn't be stranded on the island.
@@castortroy7704 Yep. I mean say what you will about Dieter he may be a mean and sadistic asswipe who deserved to get attacked and torn apart by all of those compies but despite that he had every right to provoke Nick into a fight considering that it was his fault for why everyone (including him) are trapped on a dinosaur-infested island.
@@stemple11100 But he was right though. An extinct animal brought back to life doesn't have any rights. Injen owns it, so based on the law, Nick was wrong. Injen can do whatever they want with their property.
Dieter considering that he's much more aggressive and violent than the goody two shoes Nick Van Owen who doesn't like fighting considering that he's a nature-lover.
@@castortroy7704 How'd Ludlow fucked up? All he did was try to capture the dinosaurs in order to bring them to San Diego but his plans were thwarted by Nick and Sarah who letted all of the dinosaurs out of their cages which resulted in all of Ingen's rescue equipment to be destroyed and thus they (as well as Ian and his friends) end up being stuck and trapped on a dinosaur-infested island.
I know this is going to sound harsh, but hear me out. Sarah was legitimately one of the worst characters in the franchise in my humblest of opinions. Maybe not as bad as the tomboy mom that showed up on the island with her divorcee and used a damned loud speaker, but she was close. She went to the island by herself, knowing how dangerous it was, and that it would most likely bring Ian to a place he was not comfortable with (I don't blame Hammond for that one). She got up close to a baby steggy and almost got killed doing that, when she was there to take pictures...NOT to get up and touch the damn things (an everyday Park Ranger would tell you not to do that to actual regular animals). Sarah knew all about how good T-Rex's can smell, she said it herself to the entire group, and she was wearing a jacket with the blood of their baby on it for MILES. That lady was trouble that entire trip and she was damned lucky that Ian was her on-off again boyfriend that actually cared about her.
Ludlow, Ajay and Burke got together and went shopping for spectacles at the same store. Afterwards, Ludlow and Ajay decided to go to the same barber. "Not for me," said Burke, "that's where I draw the line."
@@masterafricankingofjamenos1645 not him I am talking about the guy who was looking for a fight with Vince I saw the deleted videos and roland can fight too.
Nah Dieter would kick Nick's goody two-shoes ass considering that he's much more aggressive and violent than the goody two-shoes Nick wouldn't hurt a fly.
Roland didn't even wanna go 2 Isla Sorna because he believed him and Ajay shot and tracked everything there was and believed there was no challenge for him anymore. He was only on Sorna just 2 hunt a T-rex but as heard about Ajay's death he felt capturing his prize alone didn't feel as special catching it together. He has good values and wasn't really a villain at all, he even bosses Ludlow around and clearly knew Ingen was a company of death.
@@Selvestor746 it wasn't really an insult all he said was da rex just fed and even said how Eddie's troubles were over. Roland did have a point for what all Eddie gave up 2 save his friends because it was trouble for him 2 have 2 try and pull a big ass double trailer RV back over a cliff using only a lighter Mercedes SUV.
Until I Googled them recently to try to find a film related Wiki article, I didn't actually realise that Earth First are a genuine ecoterrorist group. It's a real shame that none of Nick's group had heard of them. It would've made for a very interesting plot change if Ian knew about them and turned on Nick at that point for putting his daughter in danger. Imho, it would've better advanced the "family is everything" message behind the film if he'd been able to call out Nick at that point for endangering his. We could maybe have even had a nice found family moment if the ensuing fight had somehow injured Ajay before his raptor death scene. Whether you want to interpret the two of them as brothers in arms or lovers (there's moments in the film that could lead to either interpretation), their bond is evident, even without Ajay speaking. The two don't leave each other's side for a second in this scene, even with everyone else moving around. And it would've added extra impact to his death, what with the Mombasa bar scene getting cut. We don't get to witness how close they are in anything other than blink and you'll miss it moments (Ajay watching him walk away when he goes to search for the missing man, him staying awake until he returns, knowing the sound of his footsteps and rushing straight over with water, him shouting Roland's name as the others drag him away when the Rexes attack) until we see all of the fight go out of Roland at his death.
While I think people interpreting Ajay and Roland as lovers are reaching a bit on account of their years, maybe decades-old friendship, overall I agree with you. If LW tried a bit less hard to be an action movie, and a bit hard to tell a compelling story, I think it'd have been every bit as good as the original film (though obviously still more action-oriented than horror-oriented).
@@eddymercan7487 I dunno, I reckon Roland's still got it! Lol Of course, they could've been lovers in their younger years and now they've reached the age where, as my grandma would put it, sex is a cuddle. But extremely close friendship works just as well. Tbh, it's much more likely to be that. It's just a hangover from my Kirk/Spock shipping years to take the other interpretation. I sometimes call Roland and Ajay "hunting t'hy'la" as I think it sums up their bond very well, one that could be taken either way. Edit - And I totally agree with you. You can really see the script weaknesses in scenes like this. It's a brilliantly acted scene but you can kinda tell they were trying to both rip off the dinner scene from the first film and add exposition at the same time and it doesn't really work. It's one of those scenes where the actors very much outshine the script and it makes you long for the original films inprov style of dialogue, which came across so much more naturally.
The only ones who survived on the island were Ian and his friends (i.e. Kelly, Nick and Sarah) and Ludlow and Roland considering that the others got killed off by the dinosaurs.
@@danskyl7279 There was supposed to be a scene where raptors snuck into the ship and attacked the people in the ship but that scene got cut out considering that there were budget constraints which prevented said scene from being filmed.
Lmfao let's bring women and children on some extremely dangerous expedition to a 'lost world' full of fucking carnivorous dinosaurs, what could go wrong 🤷
Ok, despite wanting RUclips to introduce some actual moderation for quite a while now, if the mods (because there weren’t any offensive words in my last comment that could cause a bot to delete it) could stop deleting all my replies, that would be wonderful. I’m genuinely glad that RUclips has finally decided to hire you but I can’t help but feel that deleting my very long and, yes snarky but in no way actually offensive, comment is a little over zealous. Third time lucky. Both the woman and the child made very bad decisions in this film that, had you actually watched more than this one clip, you’d already know about. While the child is a child and too young to actually know better, the woman is an adult who had more than enough reason to have known better. But as she was the main character’s girlfriend, she survived the film through plot armour alone and I wish she hadn’t have. While a child shouldn’t have been out there at all and only ended up there of her own choice, the woman had every right to make the bad decision of also going of her own choice. Woman are not weaklings and we do not need protecting from dangerous situations that we choose to get ourselves into. Which is why that character shouldn’t have survived.
@@ghostmadlittlemiss The only characters to never die in Jurassic Park movies are the female ones. I mean i love women but this feels like toxic feminism to me. Only males gets killed in these movies
@@raffaelj7846 Do you not recall Zara’s death from Jurassic World? It was quite heavily criticised at the time for giving such a brutal death to a named character who’d done nothing to deserve it, when it tends to be the case in Jurassic films (with some exceptions, ie, Eddie from the Lost World) that unless you’re the Jurassic franchise’s version of a Star Trek redshirt, you don’t get a brutal death unless your character has done something to deserve it or if their death is heroic (ie Muldoon from JP1, especially as it could be argued from the not readying his stock in advance bit that he deliberately sacrificed himself by holding the raptors’ attention long enough for Ellie to run to safety).
@@owen3721 And in the process his "job" lead to the deaths of dozens of men. Deaths that could have been avoided. You can be as high and mighty as you want until your morals directly lead to people getting killed
I love how the film tried to get us to like Nick and dislike Roland, but instead everyone loves Roland and hates Nick
I mean… Bad directing and a very realistic portrayal of a childish eco terrorist does do that to an audience
Because everyone knows how full of shit bleeding hearts are. Eddy would still be alive if not for Nick.
I don't think the film intended either. They picked two people who are both disingenuous, right and wrong. Nick mostly is an activist to get laid. But Roland is no hero either he risked his and his crews lives to kill a big animal then complains about all the death. Nic starts starts loving animals then curses the trex for not understanding his intentions. Roland starts as a brutal trophy hunter then decides he has spent too much time around the company figuratively of killing and ingen "the company of death." I bet nic turns hunter killer Roland throws out his firearms and trophies.
@@aspie-anarchist9854
All you say is true. But with Roland. He is a thrill seeker. Have you seen his deleted scene? He is such a good hunter he is bored with his life. He fully expected to die on isla sorna. This was the ultimate hunt. However the death of his best friend and the men under his leadership most likely made him appreciate living .
@@aspie-anarchist9854 Roland was by far not disingenuous.
Apathetic towards the rich people that kept getting themselves killed?
Most definitely.
Roland Tembo was the best part of this movie
I love the Roland Tembo character so much, had Sir Pete still alive, he would have been protagonist of Jurassic III.
@@danskyl7279 Or would he? I'd like to see him being taken in as easily by some bathroom refit merchant as Dr Alan Grant, seeing as he had given up being in the company of death, and could probably spot a well-off salesman BS artist a mile off. ;-)
@MotteHerald He'd had walked straight out when the Kirbys claimed they'd been on every adventure tour going. He'd have heard of them if they had and he'd have known full well just by looking that they weren't the adventurer types.
Edit - If the Kirbys were honest with him though, he might well have agreed to help them find their son.
His character was awesome. Usually I don’t care for trophy hunters, I hunt for meat, but I hold nothing but respect for Roland. I’m pretty sure I’d stick near him if I was on that island.
Imagine him trying to get Spino
Pete Postelwaithe and Peter Stromar were great here. I always laugh at
"Are you looking for a problem?"
"Well, I found you didn't I?"
illest part of the vid😂🪦💀
AND i found you
2:16 it’s creepy when Ludlow said velociraptors that creepy song at the beginning of the first movie starts playing.
So many years later and I never noticed that
Just hammers home to the audience that things are about to go from bad to worse
“Rex just fed so he wont hunt us for food” lol Roland
"His troubles are over"
@@Roonlovesfish3874 - I've occasionally said that line when a real-life situation calls for it.
@@CBright7831 Same same
The saw what was left of Eddie 😣
Ian: “A couple dozen Marlboro men”, I love that line!
does a couple dozen mean 14 or something else?
@@greenweeaboo8924 Should mean 24, but I doubt it was literal.
@@MimMdance thanks and i`m sorry i suck at math
@@greenweeaboo8924 A dozen means 12.
And a couple is 2.
So a couple dozen would be 24.
@@Jdabomb93 thanks and i`m sorrry i suck at math it`s mental abuse towards hulks like me
Tembo was all confident about catching a T-Rex but he seemed real worried when he heard about Velociraptors.
One things an enemy you can see another is one you can’t. Raptors are similar to canines and large cats. They’ll stalk you without you noticing.
@@chancellorpalpatineakathes6130 I'd rather take a wolf on, one 12 inch skewer up thru the bottom jaw to the brain and you're no longer prey, large cats give 0 shits remember apocolypto that panther was getting impaled left and right continued to maul its prey
Don't forget what makes them more dangerous than Trex is that they hunt in packs and specialize in group ambush hunting.
@@silence6813 Still, though if Roland wants a challenge, then a Raptor would too make a great trophy. In the deleted scene; Roland stated to Ajay that they were too successful together.
I miss that actor who played as Roland
He had a terminal illness but acted up until the last, I think Inception was his final role; he was Cilian Murphy's sick father in his dream (kind of ironic with it being in hospital/death bed) RIP P.P.
@@Gmoviesmoothie - Pete Postlethwaite's last four films were Clash of the Titans, Inception, The Town and the independent production Killing Bono. Despite having minor roles in each, it's interesting to note that his characters met their demise in all but the final film. His portrayal of The Florist in The Town was exceptional IMO. The part where he boasts about drugging Ben Affleck's mother up to the extent that she took her own life is genuinely chilling. Great actor.
You know i don't blame Dieter when he provokes Nick into a fight considering that Nick was responsible for them being stuck on the island!
Nick’s the reason all their, both his own crew and ingen, shit was destroyed
@@Duncman92 I know right!? He's without a doubt the most unlikable protagonist of any JP movie considering that he's more or less responsible for all of the bad stuff that happens in this movie! If it weren't for him they wouldn't be stuck on the island! And if it weren't for him then there wouldn't be a giant t-rex rampaging in San Diego!
@@avae5343 Pretty much. I mean despite being one of the protagonists he's not likable considering that he's more or less responsible for all of the bad stuff that happens! Like i said if it weren't for him letting all of the dinosaurs out then all of ingen's equipment wouldn't be destroyed. And if it weren't for him then the rex parents wouldn't have shown up and pushed the trailers off the cliff and ate Eddie! And also if it weren't him taking the bullets out of Roland's gun then the male rex wouldn't have been tranquilized and taken to san diego!
Dieter knew Nick freed the dinosaurs back at the hunters camp, so he was trying to pick a fight with him.
@@nicolascarmona6815 I know. That's why i said i don't blame him when he provoked Nick into a fight considering that he was more or less responsible for why they're trapped on the island. Add to the fact that he also letted all of the dinosaurs out of their cages under Dieter's watch made his fight with Nick more personal considering that he was the reason why they're trapped on a dinosaur-infested island.
I like how despite Ian, Nick, and Sarah, let the animals loose and destroyed their equipment (even though they deserved it for capturing the animals), they still rescued them and had them tag along toward the village. Great scene from the movie. Not my favorite of the franchise, but better than some others.
Again
Still didn’t deserve it
Cope sociopath
Very true, but it's a shame that he took the ammo from Roland Run when the adult rexes attacked the camp.
This is actually my favorite scene in this movie
Me to
That’s because it’s well written exsposition
And the Lost World Jurassic Park is my favourite of the franchise, even though the crashing ship was indeed a MASSIVE plot holes.
This is the scene where it paused in the cinema, I remember it well.
Mine too. It reminds me of the dinner scene in JP1.
Not to sound like Spock imitating a film critic but it really is a fascinating study of social class, race, gender, accent, posture and height.
Roland’s got money and he earned it so he doesn’t feel the need to throw his shoulders back and keep butting in like Nick.
Sarah’s a shortarse so she just stands next to the tallest man who might back her up, since she knows her voice is winey and annoying (listen to the nasal on “one”) when she tries to explain her theories under pressure.
Ludlow is a winey toff coward so he just stays next to Roland and Ajay.
Ian’s used to being taller than everyone else and he’s got used to no one believing him so he’s not even trying to hold his head up. He’s just gripping onto his daughter and hoping being a father will convince people to listen.
And Ajay probably knows full well no one listens to him (long grass) so he’s got the quiet confidence and slight arrogance of a man who knows full well his white best friend’s taller than him, women will let him walk through the middle of them (Mombasan bar scene) and he could outfight pretty much everyone there if he wanted to (scowl at sexually assaulting tourist in bar scene) but his race doesn’t give him respect when he speaks so he doesn’t.
You’d think InGen would give detailed info about the Raptors to everyone on the mission considering how dangerous they were. Yet Roland’s second in command doesn’t know a thing about the most dangerous dinosaurs on the island.
Call it a plot hole if you want but there's a scene of Roland literally throwing away the dinosaur documents ingen gave him during the hunt on the game trail. It doesn't take a huge leap in logic to assume guys like Roland or Dieter don't really care about the dinosaurs, just that they get to hunt them.
@@anarchohelenism Plus Ingen's plan was to stay away from where the raptors were so didn't bother to inform them about something that wasn't on their agenda
Honestly, I'm surprised that they didn't simply leave Nick there. Tell him to find his own way off the island.
*Edit* - 0:50 - Hold up. "Since you've destroyed our equipment". So they KNOW the release of the dinosaurs in their camp was intentional. And Nick has been identified as an environmental activist and "saboteur", in Roland's words. Fuck, they probably SHOULD have just left him there.
They don't have to harm him. But they're under no obligation to help him in any way. For their own safety, they probably should have told him to take a hike. How many people died because Nick sabotaged Rolands elephant gun? At a time when he was trying to protect the camp from the buck T-Rex.
*Edit edit* - Just checked. So at least two people lost their lives, maybe more. Whilst Roland was trying to prepare enough of the tranquilizer to replace his sabotaged weapon. More lives if we're including those back in the city, due to incorrect dosage issued to counter Roland's rushed tranq job, that almost killed the sedated rex.
Jesus, Nick is a sociopathic monster.
*Edit edit edit* - Dammit, I can't stop thinking about this. Imagine if you're in a crisis situation and there's someone going around stabbing the bags of donated blood, or cutting the cables on defib kits. The mission is 'scrubbed' and Nick continues to sabotage equipment? The guy is insane!
Agreed. Nick sabotaged Roland's entire camp and as a direct result all of the vehicles Roland and his team had and forms of communication were destroyed by the dinosaurs Nick and the others freed. This was all Nick's fault. As well as Ludlow's.
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I'm surprised that Ian and his friends still consider Nick as part of the team considering that he's the reason why they almost got pushed off of a cliff by two angry T-Rex parents. Add to the fact that he also took the bullets out of Roland's gun (which resulted in the latter being forced to used tranquilizer darts in order to incapacitate the male Rex when it shows up at the camp site) makes Nick an even more unlikable and unsympathetic character even by JP standards.
I understand Nick wanted to keep the animals safe but dude, he should’ve took pics of them all and sent them to PETA or something. Expose them nationally. Not fuck up their chances of survival. I’m a hunter like Roland (not nearly as skilled) so I’m trying to understand where his mind was at. All those 3 were armed with was a powerful Tranquilizer gun and it was lost with Eddie.
@@Atomic_Mayhem21 Nick was just a selfish and stupid piece of shit.
These were masterpieces. Even JPIII was good compared to the modern rubbish. But The Lost World is in a class of its own.
Jurassic World is good and has a fluent and well-structured story. And the only time action comes into it is bcs it pushes the story along and effects the narrative. Fallen Kingdom is also very good. However, it struggles a bit more as it is split more-so into twi seperate short films that take place a couole days apart so pacing is weird. But both of the acts are really good. The Death of Isla Nublar is very good, its a catastrophic and large scale event, with the Lockwood Manor then being a small, personal issue that could have MASSIVE reprocutions (should the indoraptor get out alive) this is helped by both having great action and good fun scenes with a cool premise. Dominion sadly, falls short. Its rushed, relies a lot on the nostolgia and action. Scenes like Malta chase are epic new renditions of Jurassic Park/World action and exactly what we want from dinosaurs being on the mainland. The whole Biosyn sanctuary ruins it a lot. The scene with the Rex and Giga standing off (a build up for their fight at the end) is really good and shows these animals arent killing machines but rather, actual animals with thoughts and instinct and know when to walk away from a dangerous fight that isnt in their favour. The leading cast performances really help that film, but a lot of it is ruined, we've waited 30 years for dinosaurs to get on the mainland, and we finally get it and only see the issues with it for about 45 minutes, then the rest of the film is in a isolated area away from the public. So Id say Jurassic World, Fallen Kingdom are two good films (not on the same level as the first two Jurassic Park films) But both of the 3rd films in either trilogy, have cool ideas (JP3 does an outstanding job of building up and preparing for Jurassic World) but felt too rushed and both failed to be as scary or fun than the others.
@@sungungchoi7097 I prefer it over all JW movies
I do like JP3 better than Fallen Kingdom and Dominion, but not the first JW.
Roland would make a good character in Predator
I know right!? In fact imagine if Pete Postlethwaite played Dutch instead of Arnold Schwarzenegger?
@@johnnyngo2896 or just Pete should have his own movie at that time of course lol totally agree tho Roland would definitely show the Predator he would be a worthy hunt
1:11 One The Best Fights Of This Franchise
Hahahahaha
Not at all
Nick: Are you looking for a problem?
Dieter: I found you, didn't i?
You know, the cast of Predator would have had a field day rescuing these folks.
0:42 Then we're stuck here, Ladies and Gentlemen. We're STUCK TOGETHER.. Thanks to you people.
Correction: Because of Nick.
Nick: Hey we came here to watch while you guys came here to stripmine the place. (notices Dieter trying to stare at him) Back off. (Dieter backs away)
Well nick the one who to get the dino adults,babies break out and destroyed hunters's vehicles and satelite phone!
@@stevencarter8801 Don't forget that he got Eddie eaten by the Rexes considering that he brought their baby into his trailer in order to fix its broken leg.
@@johnnyngo2896 oh got you!
2:45-2:55 okay so she knows all of this but yet she still carries around the jacket covered in baby T-Rex blood. Sarah was honestly the worst part of this movie
What about Nick?
@Paleo PH He's awful too hes responsible for most death if not every death in the movie But at least he was consistent with what he was there to do Sarah says so many things but then does the opposite
To imagine that Nick van Owen was in the first jurassic park working for dogson instead of nedry he would have been the perfect bad guy for the first movie
"The Rexes may continue to track us..." They did, because miss indiana jones kept her Baby Rex blood-tainted shirt on instead of throwing it in a puddle of mud.
The one thing I hate about Roland was how he basically disrespected Eddie's death like that. I get why he was annoyed with Ian and the others (from his POV), but still Eddie gave his life so his friends could live. You think a guy like Roland would have some respect towards that.
He did he just focused on the situation which was pretty drastic since the trex who he planned to catch of guard was now on guard and fully pissed off to the maximum of mother fatherly rage so yikes it’s not that he lacks empathy it’s more like focus on who you have to keep alive and how
@@kinggodzilla9788 Fair enough. Given the situation, makes the most sense.
He also makes a valid point, the Rex's won't come after them unless they're hungry again, and given the size Eddie was compared to the Rex's it wouldn't be long before they're hankering for human again
@@Pagan20-08 Not really. I mean they eat hundreds of pounds of meat a day, and compared to the usual animals they hunt Eddie must not even half the size. Plus, the two Rexs broke him in half when they ate him.
@@michaelgualtieri651 a fair point, however I'd definitely not take Nick with me if I had my way about it, too much of a liability.
Lost world is my favorite in the Jurassic park series longer darker more suspense divided throughout the movie
2:15 "Velociraptors" and then cue that familar flute we heard at the very beginning of Jurassic Park when the raptor incident happened
Yes I've always noticed that.
So were all those dudes just chilling in the bushes watching Eddie get devoured?
It was never said but from Kelly turning up with them, I’m guessing Roland found her alone in the high hide and took her back to her dad.
I think Roland crew heard that crashing noise of the cliff from a far and decided to head there and investigate, hence they found Malcolm crew.
@@danskyl7279 Not a bad theory but who got Kelly there then? She was left in the high hide and she turned up with that group.
Unless Roland found her when she was on her way to rescue her dad, of course.
See, that’s what fanfiction is for, for filling those gaps. :) Pity I’ve got writer’s block from perfectionism and I can’t seem to fix it, or I’d write that missing scene myself.
@@ghostmadlittlemiss Eddie probably lowered the high hide and she may not have gone back up?
@@ken45y That’s a good theory too. Or, having thought about it, maybe she just used the harness herself or just climbed down by getting to a nearby tree. She’s a gymnast after all so I’m sure she could handle heights and wet trees without slipping and dying.
"Did you think that, what, a couple dozen Marlboro men were going to make the difference here?"
I always come back to that line. Such an underhanded dis.
I love when Ludlow says “ahhh ahhh” when he sees booze lol
"Predators don't hunt when they're not hungry." Evidently, Roland isn't owned by a cat.
aw come on let nick and dieter have a fight and see who wins
My money's on Dieter considering that he's very aggressive and violent in contrast to the goody two shoes Nick who wouldn't hurt a fly.
@@johnnyngo2896 I’m not sure where you got wouldn’t hurt a fly from. He caused pretty much every single death in the whole film through his actions and he used to photograph war zones before this film.
He could handle himself but I would’ve loved Roland to punch him hard enough to knock him off his feet at one point, but it never happened.
I wish it had though, it would’ve been an awesome callback to Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner, the song they got the names Roland and Van Owen from. But maybe that would’ve come across as too much of a callback.
I don’t know, I don’t write films for a living, for a very good reason! Lol
@@ghostmadlittlemiss When i say wouldn't hurt a fly i mean he doesn't like hurting others in any way considering that he's a goody two shoes tree hugger who can't stand bad behavior in any way (i.e. fighting and violence).
My money's on Dieter considering that Nick's a pansy who doesn't like violence unlike Dieter who's not above getting into fights with anyone who provokes him in any way.
@@kimtieu8680 I don’t know where everyone’s got that interpretation of his character from, I really don’t.
He causes every single bit of violence in that film, just about, he photographed war zones before being hired to do wildlife photography on Sorna and if he pulled his gun sabotaging trick in a war zone, he got people killed there too.
When I was a kid, I always thought this was the end of the movie, the music sure made it seem that way.
“Velociraptor.
Carnivore.
Pack Hunter.
About 2 meters tall.
Long snout.
Binocular vision.
Strong dexterous forearms and killing claws on both feet.”
"By the way, this is incorrect."
@@jipke it’s correct dummy
@@jipke the raptors in Thr jurassic Universe is incorrect. But that comment describes the ones on the island
@@RealRebbitStop The Cap Bitch And yes it is correct TF is you talm bout AND YOU PROBABLY NEED TO GO GIT YOU A NEW HAIRLINE FROM THE BARBER SHOP
That doesn't sound scary, more like a Turkey or something
The hunters had every right to call Ian and his friends out considering that it was their fault for why everyone's trapped on a dinosaur infested island.
Not gonna lie but seeing Dieter goad Nick into a fight is without a doubt the most satisfying comeuppance for him considering that it was his dumbass fault for why everyone's trapped on the island! Add to the fact that Nick was responsible for destroying the camp under Dieter's watch makes his fight with him justified!
If they hadn’t captured the dinosaurs in the first place and left them well alone he wouldn’t of needed to release them
@@stemple11100 I know that. It's just that there should've been security near those dinosaur cages considering that if there was some security guards near those cages then Nick and Sarah wouldn't have opened all of those cages and thus they wouldn't be stranded on the island.
Dieter was a cruel and sadistic asshole but as bad as he was I was rooting for him against Nick. Nick got everyone killed.
@@castortroy7704 Yep. I mean say what you will about Dieter he may be a mean and sadistic asswipe who deserved to get attacked and torn apart by all of those compies but despite that he had every right to provoke Nick into a fight considering that it was his fault for why everyone (including him) are trapped on a dinosaur-infested island.
@@stemple11100 But he was right though. An extinct animal brought back to life doesn't have any rights. Injen owns it, so based on the law, Nick was wrong. Injen can do whatever they want with their property.
Roland can kill a raptor bear hands
Did you see Oscar do it with a knife?
Did you see Malcolm supposedly black daughter defeat a raptor with Gymnastic? lol
@@danskyl7279 yeah
He did kill a raptor in a deleted an earlier lost world draft.
@@lordnihilus3198 that would’ve been awesome to see
0:00-0:32 that theme kinda made the hunters into superheroes
It was Roland holding out the hand too. Awesome character
Nick vs Dieter full on brawl who'd win?
Dieter considering that he's much more aggressive and violent than the goody two shoes Nick Van Owen who doesn't like fighting considering that he's a nature-lover.
@@johnnyngo2896 Nick caused all the fuck ups and deaths. Him and Ludlow.
@@castortroy7704 How'd Ludlow fucked up? All he did was try to capture the dinosaurs in order to bring them to San Diego but his plans were thwarted by Nick and Sarah who letted all of the dinosaurs out of their cages which resulted in all of Ingen's rescue equipment to be destroyed and thus they (as well as Ian and his friends) end up being stuck and trapped on a dinosaur-infested island.
@@johnnyngo2896 Nick's a prick. That rhymes.
@@jipke Yep. In fact that sums up his character in a nutshell considering that he's one of the most unlikable protagonists in any JP movie.
The description broke my brain
Jk, thank you. Got the gist
Spanglish
This is why you shouldn't rely on Google translate
I know this is going to sound harsh, but hear me out.
Sarah was legitimately one of the worst characters in the franchise in my humblest of opinions.
Maybe not as bad as the tomboy mom that showed up on the island with her divorcee and used a damned loud speaker, but she was close.
She went to the island by herself, knowing how dangerous it was, and that it would most likely bring Ian to a place he was not comfortable with (I don't blame Hammond for that one).
She got up close to a baby steggy and almost got killed doing that, when she was there to take pictures...NOT to get up and touch the damn things (an everyday Park Ranger would tell you not to do that to actual regular animals).
Sarah knew all about how good T-Rex's can smell, she said it herself to the entire group, and she was wearing a jacket with the blood of their baby on it for MILES.
That lady was trouble that entire trip and she was damned lucky that Ian was her on-off again boyfriend that actually cared about her.
So true
This reminds me of that one scene from Jurassic Park The Game where Yoder and Oscar came to rescue the Hardings and Nima!
Pete Postelwaithe would have been a good shout for a book-accurate Muldoon.
jurassic world awesome great good going movies
That's a cool scene, but my god poor eddie. The hero of all the films
Ludlow, Ajay and Burke got together and went shopping for spectacles at the same store. Afterwards, Ludlow and Ajay decided to go to the same barber. "Not for me," said Burke, "that's where I draw the line."
My money is on Vince lol
Nah roland. Watch the deleted scene of him
@@masterafricankingofjamenos1645 not him I am talking about the guy who was looking for a fight with Vince I saw the deleted videos and roland can fight too.
@@EvilSinReaper oh ok I understand
Definitely Vince, considering that Dieter was drunk lol🤣
Nah Dieter would kick Nick's goody two-shoes ass considering that he's much more aggressive and violent than the goody two-shoes Nick wouldn't hurt a fly.
When Roland found out Ajay died, he lost his drive.
Roland didn't even wanna go 2 Isla Sorna because he believed him and Ajay shot and tracked everything there was and believed there was no challenge for him anymore. He was only on Sorna just 2 hunt a T-rex but as heard about Ajay's death he felt capturing his prize alone didn't feel as special catching it together. He has good values and wasn't really a villain at all, he even bosses Ludlow around and clearly knew Ingen was a company of death.
@@Selvestor746 it wasn't really an insult all he said was da rex just fed and even said how Eddie's troubles were over. Roland did have a point for what all Eddie gave up 2 save his friends because it was trouble for him 2 have 2 try and pull a big ass double trailer RV back over a cliff using only a lighter Mercedes SUV.
@@Selvestor746 yeah sounds about right
I love this movie.
yep.
0:50 Said the sociopath to himself in his own little echo chamber
Until I Googled them recently to try to find a film related Wiki article, I didn't actually realise that Earth First are a genuine ecoterrorist group.
It's a real shame that none of Nick's group had heard of them. It would've made for a very interesting plot change if Ian knew about them and turned on Nick at that point for putting his daughter in danger. Imho, it would've better advanced the "family is everything" message behind the film if he'd been able to call out Nick at that point for endangering his.
We could maybe have even had a nice found family moment if the ensuing fight had somehow injured Ajay before his raptor death scene.
Whether you want to interpret the two of them as brothers in arms or lovers (there's moments in the film that could lead to either interpretation), their bond is evident, even without Ajay speaking. The two don't leave each other's side for a second in this scene, even with everyone else moving around.
And it would've added extra impact to his death, what with the Mombasa bar scene getting cut. We don't get to witness how close they are in anything other than blink and you'll miss it moments (Ajay watching him walk away when he goes to search for the missing man, him staying awake until he returns, knowing the sound of his footsteps and rushing straight over with water, him shouting Roland's name as the others drag him away when the Rexes attack) until we see all of the fight go out of Roland at his death.
While I think people interpreting Ajay and Roland as lovers are reaching a bit on account of their years, maybe decades-old friendship, overall I agree with you. If LW tried a bit less hard to be an action movie, and a bit hard to tell a compelling story, I think it'd have been every bit as good as the original film (though obviously still more action-oriented than horror-oriented).
@@eddymercan7487 I dunno, I reckon Roland's still got it! Lol
Of course, they could've been lovers in their younger years and now they've reached the age where, as my grandma would put it, sex is a cuddle. But extremely close friendship works just as well.
Tbh, it's much more likely to be that. It's just a hangover from my Kirk/Spock shipping years to take the other interpretation. I sometimes call Roland and Ajay "hunting t'hy'la" as I think it sums up their bond very well, one that could be taken either way.
Edit - And I totally agree with you. You can really see the script weaknesses in scenes like this. It's a brilliantly acted scene but you can kinda tell they were trying to both rip off the dinner scene from the first film and add exposition at the same time and it doesn't really work.
It's one of those scenes where the actors very much outshine the script and it makes you long for the original films inprov style of dialogue, which came across so much more naturally.
0:00 I can’t work out if that’s actually Jeff Goldblum right at the start but pulling a face or a really unconvincing stunt double! Lol
I found you didn't I?
Good scene.
Very good 😮😮😮
0:28 they also found Kelly, kept her safe and got her reunited eith her father
I'd feel safer with this group than with Malcolm
Besides for the InGen lawyer, Nick and Sarah were the true villains in this film.
Ehm is it me or do they forget some carnivors, i mean arent there more then raptors and t-rex on that island? For instance what about the petranodons?
They probably didn't know about them, and probably didn't think they were a threat
Roland tembo and Jurassic Park vs the predator.
It’s true that they’re stuck together thanks to Ian’s group
I wish all of them got off the island
The only ones who survived on the island were Ian and his friends (i.e. Kelly, Nick and Sarah) and Ludlow and Roland considering that the others got killed off by the dinosaurs.
@@kimtieu8680 Btw, what happen to that ship?? The one that crashed on the dock?
@@danskyl7279 There was supposed to be a scene where raptors snuck into the ship and attacked the people in the ship but that scene got cut out considering that there were budget constraints which prevented said scene from being filmed.
Except Nick.
@@kimtieu8680 All other hunters survived
The Rex’s just fed but Eddie was like splitting a chicken strip for them so they would want more.
Nick is probably the worst character in this film. He gets wayyyy too many people killed.
He must be punished.
Rex just fed
Dam peta at some points mates
They legit should have yeeted nick off that cliff. He's the villain of the film, and is basically the reason everything went wrong.
0:33
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Macho man randy savage in the movie
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This is kind of 70s video jaja
Lmfao let's bring women and children on some extremely dangerous expedition to a 'lost world' full of fucking carnivorous dinosaurs, what could go wrong 🤷
Well technically his daughter was a stow away
he didnt bring them.. WATCH THE MOVIE
Ok, despite wanting RUclips to introduce some actual moderation for quite a while now, if the mods (because there weren’t any offensive words in my last comment that could cause a bot to delete it) could stop deleting all my replies, that would be wonderful. I’m genuinely glad that RUclips has finally decided to hire you but I can’t help but feel that deleting my very long and, yes snarky but in no way actually offensive, comment is a little over zealous.
Third time lucky. Both the woman and the child made very bad decisions in this film that, had you actually watched more than this one clip, you’d already know about.
While the child is a child and too young to actually know better, the woman is an adult who had more than enough reason to have known better. But as she was the main character’s girlfriend, she survived the film through plot armour alone and I wish she hadn’t have.
While a child shouldn’t have been out there at all and only ended up there of her own choice, the woman had every right to make the bad decision of also going of her own choice.
Woman are not weaklings and we do not need protecting from dangerous situations that we choose to get ourselves into. Which is why that character shouldn’t have survived.
@@ghostmadlittlemiss The only characters to never die in Jurassic Park movies are the female ones. I mean i love women but this feels like toxic feminism to me. Only males gets killed in these movies
@@raffaelj7846 Do you not recall Zara’s death from Jurassic World?
It was quite heavily criticised at the time for giving such a brutal death to a named character who’d done nothing to deserve it, when it tends to be the case in Jurassic films (with some exceptions, ie, Eddie from the Lost World) that unless you’re the Jurassic franchise’s version of a Star Trek redshirt, you don’t get a brutal death unless your character has done something to deserve it or if their death is heroic (ie Muldoon from JP1, especially as it could be argued from the not readying his stock in advance bit that he deliberately sacrificed himself by holding the raptors’ attention long enough for Ellie to run to safety).
I watched the scene where the one guy got mad at his daughter about something that she didn’t like about what he was talking about.
when 1 of the men said 'raptor', i thougt of a raptor attacking them
As a kid I thought Nick had a point and the hunters were being unreasonable. As an adult I've come to realize it's the other way around
The point of this movie was to show that corporate greed and "playing God" so to speak is a bad idea. Nick's job was to sabatoge their plans.
@@owen3721 And in the process his "job" lead to the deaths of dozens of men. Deaths that could have been avoided. You can be as high and mighty as you want until your morals directly lead to people getting killed