This is Tom King's entire shtick. Putting larger than life superheroes in the most mundane situations because apparently that's so relatable and deep. Judging by the reception he's been getting and the Eisner award he took home a couple of months ago, it seems people think this is some genius level stuff. The majority of readers no longer seem interested in reading about superheroes doing amazing things, they just want to feel like the superheroes they read are as boring as they are.
RocketSurgeon That's why I don't watch new scripted television anymore, unless it's children's cartoons. Say what you will about Puppy Dog Pals, stuff happens and you won't be depressed when it's over. ^3^ Seriously, I watched an episode of A-Team today. Good stuff.
Mexican ice-cream van? You ain't woken up till you hear the knife sharpening van, shouting into a loud speaker at 8 in the morning. If you didn't know any better, you'd think "la revolucion" was starting.
You subtly invoked Rian Johnson here with the "subverted expectations" line, but this reminds me more of someone else related to Star Wars. Tom King is the JJ Abrams of DC. He can set up a great story, but he never delivers a satisfying finale (Batman Wedding, Mister Miracle). Just like LOST, Alias, etc.
You aren’t satisfied with a veggie tray and Darkseid being defeated by a stroller and a knife in about 30 seconds, only to reveal it was all an illusion? I have to stop being such a completionist.
I bought this series b/c of you. (In my best Captain Kirk voice) ZAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! That's ok, I plan on selling it on ebay very soon. Same with Tom King's Batman run which should have been called Catwoman.
It's difficult to believe that anyone could so convincingly pull off such terrible humor. To me, the comic looked like it was made by someone trying to be humorous and simply failing. It could have worked twenty years ago, I think.
I started SJS DIRECT 10 years ago in a bedroom. Used to send out review copies to book clubs just like you did. Except I didn't have a stamp machine. Tom King is slowly becoming JOKE as a writer . What a RIP. 1 issues, $44 and no PAYOFF? That's the WORST Thing a writer could do is give readers a COP OUT ending.
Tom King fooled everyone into thinking he was a deep and competent writer. Reality is that he’s a man with a lot of issues that has recycled the same depressing comic story like 4 times in his short career.
My question is how does Darkseid have celery? I mean i don't think he's growing it on a dead world....Huh! I know now what his plans were all these years he wanted to Invade earth to get....celery! A.K.A next Tom King plot.
Context. It's all in the context. "Whatever it is that goes on here needs to stop." is acceptable. "Like, then she was like, pacifiers are _so_ 90's, and I was like, Whatever!" is not.
I had initially assumed Scott was under the effect of the Ant-Life equation, hence the suicide attempt and fever dream-like reality, but as the story progressed it stopped being Mr. Miracle and became Mr. Mom. It's like King just forgot what the plot was half way through. Wtf?
The convincing of the public that Tom King is a great writer was one of the greatest comic hoodwinks in living memory. Dan Didio plowed all this money into promoting him and doing crazy outlandish events where journalists and critics are buttered up and given VIP treatment (see the weird-ass cult promo event for Heroes in Crisis which seemed to take place on a fucking boat or something) - just like Disney pre-butters up their critics with sweet nothings and special treatment - and thus the spineless reviewing classes promote the creator-du-jour and the buying audience assume they must be telling the truth. . . . They're not.
DItko also used the 9-panel grid to great effect, but it's all in knowing how to use them. Too much of a good thing is no longer good, like chocolate. A Hershey's every now and then is great, but if chocolate bars are your supper, you'll just get a bellyache.
inorite I'm pretty sure yaboi Zack's hand fell off at some point and he was wearing a convincing fake for this video until he can get it surgically reattached
You know, if some writers really likes to add eating - cooking scenes in comics just for the teehee of it, why don't they try to make an actual cooking comics? Manga does it all the time, hell, they can even make it in many style - RPG, fighting, over the top, you name it!
Richard, you truly have the strength of ten men to finish this. I honestly couldn't even get past page three with Darkseid and the flipping veggie tray.
Yes! Mister Miracle is a complete mirage by maestro Tom King. After a few great issues, it had degenerated into extended bed room conversations between Scott Free and Big Barda among other things. Creating great comics is extremely difficult because it is a study of minimalism and even though King can churn out a good one from time to time a great one is outside his ability.
Haven't even watched yet and that thumbnail has me chuckling. Its not a good joke at all, but I had the same reaction to that one panel of Darkseid chilling on a couch. I really shouldn't laugh at the most intimidating and calculating villain in DC eating a veggie tray and sitting on a couch like a fat lump. Gods help me...
Mister Miracle is one of those comics that starts great and becomes so awful that the newer issues just sits on the nightstand because you keep finding better stuff to read.
I saw the thumbnail and needed immediate context. I saw Darkseid munching on a crudités, and thought, I can't really be seeing this, can I? Have I hit my head, and this is some fever dream? It can't be a fever dream, because the girrafepede isn't here, trying to steal my toes. What is this? As for the writing, I've never read a comic with Barda, but even I can tell that she is way out of character here. 4:40 That one page advertisement for Snickers looked to be more interesting than this garbage.
I could see three panels of a villain with the snack tray as good, like a bit of comic relief, the good guys coming in just as the BBEG is scratching his balls and grabbing a bite, but a whole page? Bruh
Mister Miracle #1 comes out. Zach: HOLY SHIT! MISTER MIRACLE IS OUT! I have no idea what's going on over there, but who cares? IT'S MISTER MIRACLE! Mister Miracle #11 comes out. Zach: Oh God. Tom King again?
I think the point of the comic was that Mr.Miracle was under the influence of the anti-life equation ("DARKSEID IS") and is in some sort of simulated reality (seeing Oberon and others while they're actually dead). the "glitches" along the way in the form of the screen distortions are also an indication. He even says that while he realizes that his reality is fake he CHOOSES NOT TO ESCAPE IT, because he's happy. That's the point, escapism.
I am determined to stick it out. It's a thing with me. If I start something--anything--I must finish it, whatever the outcome: good, bad or catastrophic or a mix of the three. I'm going to read that last Mister Miracle book whenever it finally arrives and I'm going to get to the last page and if I find out 'it was all a dream' then I'm going to write King off as hopelessly over-hyped. With luck, he'll pull something out that approaches good ending. But probably not. Wish me luck, fellas.
Ok, I guess I'll be the one to say it. WHAT DID YOU DO TO LUNA? My theory is while you were working, not paying attention, you stamped Luna and mailed her instead of the book. You bastich!
Panodphantion Zack liked your comment so I guess that answers that question! I have bad hearing so I'm often unsure if I'm hearing stuff like that accurately.
Disagree wholeheartedly, I think Mister Miracle has been incredible so far. I don't think everything on the market has to be traditional comic book cliche/format.
"No Twitter" = 8 Tweets.
Just like an addict. "And no alcohol... Just 4 beers."
Bo Do omg this comment made my day lol
*Sees darkside eating Vegetable tray*
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH SO FUNNY TOM KING HAHAHAHHAHAHAH
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
That even irks me -- and I'm vegan! 😂
R u high, Dirty Harry?
This is Tom King's entire shtick. Putting larger than life superheroes in the most mundane situations because apparently that's so relatable and deep. Judging by the reception he's been getting and the Eisner award he took home a couple of months ago, it seems people think this is some genius level stuff. The majority of readers no longer seem interested in reading about superheroes doing amazing things, they just want to feel like the superheroes they read are as boring as they are.
RocketSurgeon That's why I don't watch new scripted television anymore, unless it's children's cartoons. Say what you will about Puppy Dog Pals, stuff happens and you won't be depressed when it's over. ^3^
Seriously, I watched an episode of A-Team today. Good stuff.
Remember when Zack was optimistic towards Tom King? Oh, the naivety...
He was the chosen one, he was supposed to fight the soy, not join it.
Thespawnfan you're a God. XD
Mexican ice-cream van? You ain't woken up till you hear the knife sharpening van, shouting into a loud speaker at 8 in the morning. If you didn't know any better, you'd think "la revolucion" was starting.
Please never stop roasting Tom king
"I literally got into a race riot trying to find issue one" Yep those were the days huh?
+plumlogan
It's only a million dollar idea if he sells the comics with the milkshake still on them.
“Give me back my money, you FEEF!” - Zack
Oh good. Somebody else was hearing feef too. I was worried it was my ears.
Mr Miracle really subverted my expectations. I thought it was going to be good
You subtly invoked Rian Johnson here with the "subverted expectations" line, but this reminds me more of someone else related to Star Wars. Tom King is the JJ Abrams of DC. He can set up a great story, but he never delivers a satisfying finale (Batman Wedding, Mister Miracle). Just like LOST, Alias, etc.
Only good story he wrote was Swamp Thing. Otherwise, everything else is a dissapoitment.
So much for this series being the next “dark knight returns / Watchmen”
Hey Zach, why don't you chase after Tom King on a bicycle and scream "I want my 44 dollars!" at him.
Gee Tom I don't have a dime. Sorry.
Better off Dead. I know that reference.
I need about tree fiddy.
You aren’t satisfied with a veggie tray and Darkseid being defeated by a stroller and a knife in about 30 seconds, only to reveal it was all an illusion? I have to stop being such a completionist.
Wait, so it wasn't a dream, it was an _illusion_ ? Zach! I want my time back!
Hey, Zack ... Remember when you liked the first issues so much ... ? I remember ... and so does Pepridge Farm. :P
*ｓｈｕｔｔｈｅｆｕｃｋｕｐｙｏｕｃｕｃｋ*
W O M E N are talking!
I bought this series b/c of you. (In my best Captain Kirk voice) ZAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! That's ok, I plan on selling it on ebay very soon. Same with Tom King's Batman run which should have been called Catwoman.
I dropped it after issue 6 and I kept it too long.
I feel bad for Zach. Maybe Tom King intentionally ruined this series because he saw you liked it?
This is very possible.
It's difficult to believe that anyone could so convincingly pull off such terrible humor. To me, the comic looked like it was made by someone trying to be humorous and simply failing. It could have worked twenty years ago, I think.
#JossWhedonKilledDialogue
I started SJS DIRECT 10 years ago in a bedroom. Used to send out review copies to book clubs just like you did. Except I didn't have a stamp machine.
Tom King is slowly becoming JOKE as a writer . What a RIP. 1 issues, $44 and no PAYOFF? That's the WORST Thing a writer could do is give readers a COP OUT ending.
Is Tom King a CIA psy op designed to demoralize super hero comics fans?
Yes
Tom King fooled everyone into thinking he was a deep and competent writer. Reality is that he’s a man with a lot of issues that has recycled the same depressing comic story like 4 times in his short career.
I backed both Iron Sights and Stardust so now the race is on between Zack and Nasser to see whose book I get first.
PLACE YOUR BETS NOW.
dbzmagus - I got Stardust yesterday... 🤣🤣🤣
Marvel owes me hundreds
Try thousands
They dedicated 9 panels to DARKSEID eating celery? I'm so disappointed in DC
Everyone is complaining about Marvel, but DC has been sucking for more than a decade.
"But he's double dipping so it shows he's evil!" Actual thing someone said...
My question is how does Darkseid have celery? I mean i don't think he's growing it on a dead world....Huh! I know now what his plans were all these years he wanted to Invade earth to get....celery!
A.K.A next Tom King plot.
WHAT? You can't see the SHEER GENIUS that 9 panels of Darkseid eating celery conveys?
So Speaks Galactus! Mr. Miracle brought it, if you recall.
The word "whatever" should be banned from any character over 12 years old.
VeronicasTouch unless you're Randy Marsh
Context. It's all in the context. "Whatever it is that goes on here needs to stop." is acceptable. "Like, then she was like, pacifiers are _so_ 90's, and I was like, Whatever!" is not.
I had initially assumed Scott was under the effect of the Ant-Life equation, hence the suicide attempt and fever dream-like reality, but as the story progressed it stopped being Mr. Miracle and became Mr. Mom. It's like King just forgot what the plot was half way through. Wtf?
Zach? Didn't you *start* that race riot with a bullhorn and a soapbox?
I'm sure I read that on Twatter somewhere.
I heard that Richard C Meyer was kicking puppies while he incited the race riot. And wearing a Cyberfrog mask.
I‘m just glad that Kirby was spared living through the ruin of his characters.
If comicsgate becomes a label you should build its fulfilment center, you obviously have a passion for it.
And the label maker.
King owes us even more after what he did on Batman #50😡
The convincing of the public that Tom King is a great writer was one of the greatest comic hoodwinks in living memory. Dan Didio plowed all this money into promoting him and doing crazy outlandish events where journalists and critics are buttered up and given VIP treatment (see the weird-ass cult promo event for Heroes in Crisis which seemed to take place on a fucking boat or something) - just like Disney pre-butters up their critics with sweet nothings and special treatment - and thus the spineless reviewing classes promote the creator-du-jour and the buying audience assume they must be telling the truth.
. . .
They're not.
TIL that Zack is the kind of cat that doesn't pull the plastic wrap off his electronics.
Scott hasn't even spoken and Dessad was already tired of his shit. Maybe Apokolips isn't so bad.
Also, every man is Tom King when written by him.
I can see why they're all so worked up over you, man. That's a SPECTRE-level evil lair you got there. Real high-tech setup.
Jack Kirby's run of Mister Miracle Darkside is more intimidating than this
I HATE the 9-panel page design.
The fact that there's a whole comic completely made of those 9 panel pages enrages me.
DItko also used the 9-panel grid to great effect, but it's all in knowing how to use them. Too much of a good thing is no longer good, like chocolate. A Hershey's every now and then is great, but if chocolate bars are your supper, you'll just get a bellyache.
It’s so annoying
I like it. But it shouldn’t be overused. I liked it in Watchmen
I feel like Tom King unironically wants the Seinfeld theme to play after every joke.
i still don't envy your having to sign your name ten thousand times.
inorite
I'm pretty sure yaboi Zack's hand fell off at some point and he was wearing a convincing fake for this video until he can get it surgically reattached
Remember how stoked you were after the first issue .
Zack loves a label maker...who would have thought...?
Also: the language...shame shame.....
Also Also: Tom warned you: “Comics aren’t for everyone”.
Just what I needed. Seeing a comic book supervillain eating veggies and dip
Jesus. You paid for this garbage? For like 14 months? Yeah I'd be pissed too man.
Tom King must have been watching reruns of Dallas when he thought of that "story".
I knew it was all bogus when we never saw the The Black Racer show up for any of the New God deaths.
More postage machine content. excellent.
You know, if some writers really likes to add eating - cooking scenes in comics just for the teehee of it, why don't they try to make an actual cooking comics? Manga does it all the time, hell, they can even make it in many style - RPG, fighting, over the top, you name it!
Dude the art on that Snickers ad was great.
Mexican ice cream trucks always come at dusk in my neighborhood.
Richard, you truly have the strength of ten men to finish this. I honestly couldn't even get past page three with Darkseid and the flipping veggie tray.
I'm thinking Tom King is a troll. Renaming him Troll King as all his stories seem to be this kind of Bendis brand of trash 😛
Yes! Mister Miracle is a complete mirage by maestro Tom King. After a few great issues, it had degenerated into extended bed room conversations between Scott Free and Big Barda among other things. Creating great comics is extremely difficult because it is a study of minimalism and even though King can churn out a good one from time to time a great one is outside his ability.
I'm with you bro, this comic is a pile of #$%*!!
stab it with your steely knife. ...
And yet people wil praise the hell out it.
So glad I dropped this series...
I love watching this journey you're on Zach, it makes me want to look into self publishing myself
Tom king tries hard to be like normie and it ends up like a weirdo
Yo boi Stampin it up
The content I came to see
Unlike DeMatties and Giffen, Tom King does not understand that Darkseid loves the benefits of a comfy chair...
Haven't even watched yet and that thumbnail has me chuckling. Its not a good joke at all, but I had the same reaction to that one panel of Darkseid chilling on a couch.
I really shouldn't laugh at the most intimidating and calculating villain in DC eating a veggie tray and sitting on a couch like a fat lump. Gods help me...
tom king did an eddie berganzad on your wallerrrt
Mister Miracle is one of those comics that starts great and becomes so awful that the newer issues just sits on the nightstand because you keep finding better stuff to read.
Dear lord, peal the plastic off that labeler!
Makes me feel uncomfortable as well
@@Duranous1 lol
@@Duranous1 nice
What the actual ef is this series supposed to be? Who the ef represents Darkseid and the Furies like this?
What? Why?
WHY?!?!?!?!
Because Om King has no T.
Aric Hutfles This is worse than what he did for the marriage thing! I honestly did not think it could get worse than that.
Zach: "Give me back my money you thief!"
Umpire: "Game loss."
Is the slogan for Splatto Comics, "We deliver"?
If it doesn't arrive in thirty minutes, do we get it free?
I saw the thumbnail and needed immediate context. I saw Darkseid munching on a crudités, and thought, I can't really be seeing this, can I? Have I hit my head, and this is some fever dream? It can't be a fever dream, because the girrafepede isn't here, trying to steal my toes. What is this? As for the writing, I've never read a comic with Barda, but even I can tell that she is way out of character here.
4:40 That one page advertisement for Snickers looked to be more interesting than this garbage.
I too want my money back.
No series have ever fallen off a cliff in the same way this had
Om King unlocks the Anti-Zdarsky Equation.
So between sitting on couches all the time and now eating snacks, Darkseid is just your overweight uncle.
I could see three panels of a villain with the snack tray as good, like a bit of comic relief, the good guys coming in just as the BBEG is scratching his balls and grabbing a bite, but a whole page? Bruh
After moving from upstate NY to the Laredo area I can confirm one kid tends to disappear into the clouds of children women already tend to have
Mister Miracle #1 comes out.
Zach: HOLY SHIT! MISTER MIRACLE IS OUT! I have no idea what's going on over there, but who cares? IT'S MISTER MIRACLE!
Mister Miracle #11 comes out.
Zach: Oh God. Tom King again?
I can imagine what happened at DC headquarters.
"QUICK! ZACH LIKES THE BOOK! MAKE IT SUCK BEFORE WE GET ACCUSED OF SUPPORTING BIGOTRY!"
Mister Miralcuck.
I TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN ZACH.
Yeesh. Modern classic to being thrown across the room like a Mags book. What a difference ten months make.
I think the point of the comic was that Mr.Miracle was under the influence of the anti-life equation ("DARKSEID IS") and is in some sort of simulated reality (seeing Oberon and others while they're actually dead). the "glitches" along the way in the form of the screen distortions are also an indication.
He even says that while he realizes that his reality is fake he CHOOSES NOT TO ESCAPE IT, because he's happy. That's the point, escapism.
Fans to King: "You were the chosen one! You were supposed to bring quality back to comics not leave us with disappointment!"
Just tear the dam thing in half already.
I love that I'm getting more Stamp lore from the Meyerverse.
I am determined to stick it out. It's a thing with me. If I start something--anything--I must finish it, whatever the outcome: good, bad or catastrophic or a mix of the three. I'm going to read that last Mister Miracle book whenever it finally arrives and I'm going to get to the last page and if I find out 'it was all a dream' then I'm going to write King off as hopelessly over-hyped. With luck, he'll pull something out that approaches good ending. But probably not. Wish me luck, fellas.
Good luck. Yer gonna need it.
so they Bill Engvalled us with this issue
Is Luna helping out??I hope you're tipping her well with treats!
Tom king is the most overrated writer in comics right now IMO
Tom "CIA" King has turned Darkseid into an autistic giant.
Ok, I guess I'll be the one to say it. WHAT DID YOU DO TO LUNA? My theory is while you were working, not paying attention, you stamped Luna and mailed her instead of the book. You bastich!
Luna got the Nermal treatment! Somebody go to Timbuktu and get Luna!
[EDIT: Corrected minor typo.]
I thought it was Abu Dhabi
Benjamin Random You are correct. I dyslexiced the location.
I can't read Mister Miracle i always check out.
So we have eating, silly billy humor, and nothing matters. Did Gail Simone write this?
Anybody else hear "fief" every time Zack said "thief?"
Yeah. To the point that I am beginning to suspect it is deliberate.
Panodphantion Zack liked your comment so I guess that answers that question! I have bad hearing so I'm often unsure if I'm hearing stuff like that accurately.
Dammit! THAT 44 DOLLARS WAS OURS! GIVE IT BACK! IT WAS OURS DAMMIT! ARGH START TALKING TOM KING!
Can any of these “talented” writers ever close the deal on these big build ups?
Seriously, no good payoffs, none worth noting.
Disagree wholeheartedly, I think Mister Miracle has been incredible so far. I don't think everything on the market has to be traditional comic book cliche/format.
man this is depressing Barda and Scott were my favriot DC characters
I thought everyone knew he was stuck in the "matrix".
Guess it being a dream was still better than the bat/cat non-wedding
Our boi is pretty salty tonight
I miss the coughs.
Wait I remember that #1 video that you made. This is still going? Damn
There a should be a rule at DC comics, that you only get to use darkseid in your book if it's to do an epic story-line or crossover.
Dude, if you paid 4 dollars for each issue you honestly don't deserve to have your money back.
Allegedly the first 2 issues were good than it died like Om King's Atman run.
I thought it was gonna be the "next Animal Man". But Tom King isn't anywhere near Grant Morrison, he's not even Judd winnick.