What is good road car handling? (Or, what should you be aiming for?)
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- People often think that handling is just about grip. But it's actually a lot more than that. www.amazon.com/Vehicle-Ride-H... or Amazon in your country.
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very good comment that maximum grip doesnt mean the car feels good to handle, even true in the context of motorsport. For my part I would like to say I'm pretty shocked at how overbearing the power steering feels on some modern cars. I feel nearly no difference in self-aligning torque between gripping on pavement and understeering in the slush in my current car.
some of the EPS racks ive driven with suck big time for feel. Feels like you are playing a video game until you realize you are understeering bad.
@@nooooooooooo6uoki67 I bought a VB WRX a couple of years ago, and this is def one of its main flaws. The car is still great overall, but the steering feels a bit dead. Def not as bad as others but still
Just dropping a line to say I really enjoyed this, and feel there’s a real lack of top-level, structured content in the car world. I for one want more lectures. Thank you! 😃
Perhaps buy the book? All my RUclips videos are quite superficial.
@@JulianEdgar in due course, yeah. I’m still working through your book on electrical systems :)
Couldn't agree more, I feel like I really struck gold by finding this channel. Makes me wonder why it's remained so small. Definitely buying the book once I have the money to spare!
@@onlyifusayplz5407 This channel is going to blow up. Any minute now…
I bet this book will become one of the staples in car modifications for handling and will be used for decades. Wonderful work!
Great video. After watching only 2 I ordered the book. Your explanation is clear, very well structured, easy to understand, peppered with the right amount of common sense and simply very very interesting. Glad I haven't modified my beloved Mazda MX5 ND yet, Mazda knows a couple of things about car handling I guess... Can't wait to receive your book and maybe find a couple of useful tweaks under your guidance 😉
Awesome, thank you!
These are excellent points. 👍
Great info!
What an excellent bunch of videos you’ve been putting out. I have to say I’ve learned quite a bit and will have to get a couple of your books.
Your video on intakes helped immensely in what I’m doing with my mk1 mx5. I’m adding a programable ecu which gets rid of the afm and goes to MAP. I went out and bought a mk2 1.8 air box that’ll fit perfectly. The intake to box is twice the size of the 1.6 air box and is on the other side away from the manifold. With some parts from Flyin Miata it should work perfectly.
Handling and grip was also very interesting.
Thank you.
Hey Julian!
I am going to be buying your book soon but want to give a thank you for sharing your wisdom!
Ive been focusing strictly on refining the suspension on my car. I took your advice and eliminated the rear roll since my car plowed alot. Completely changed the characteristics, so much more rotation.
Cant wait to get the book and dig into it!
Yes, people just don't realise the power of altering front/rear weight transfer characteristics.
Great video! Im definitely going to need to buy the book! Ive been having some understeer when trying to accelerate out of certain turns and Im not even going high speeds(40ish) through a long curve turn. Im slightly cambered and have adjustable coilovers and after this video I believe I may have stiffened the front dampers too much. I also have to check on the tire tread.
You hit the nail on the head on the progressive for me. My 02 wrx handles great and has insane grip on dry but the rest end likes to step out on wet. I’ve got swaybars in the front and rear, would the rear be too tight/stiff? Thank you
Yes, probably. But what happens when it loses grip in the dry?
@@JulianEdgar it rarely does and I can feel when it’s about too, it’s almost always cuz I gave it too much throttle rear end will start to step out but I just let off a hair and it straightens/digs out of the corner. And thank you for taking the time to reply🙏🏼
I full agree that lot of grip don't mean good handling, BUT (xD) I realize that good set of fresh tires makes a car controllable, predictable and progressive. I started my racing in grassroots events, where lot of people (included me) ride on really shitty, used tires, not bald, simply overaged. Car on this type tires was unpredictable on limit, and it no way to feel how much grip I have. When I put a set of fresh tires I'm shocked. Now tires communicate how much I can push, and even I push to hard, grip loss is not sudden.
I learned this especially on motorcycle. Old tires, even when looks good are unpredictable on hard braking or in wet conditions, other hand fresh ones feels way more "rubbery" on handlebar. Now I may ride motorcycle on some level of slip and stil control the bike.
Usually quite the opposite. Too much grip often ends in very fast breakaway, which means it's very difficult to find and balance on any limits. Something you can find good balance and confidence in, to exploit it at it's limits, is good handling.