House of the Dragon Season 2 REVIEW | Episode 6 Small Folk
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Mysaria's two modes in dialogue are:
1. Exposition.
2. Remind us of her Backstory.
3. Inconsistent accent. To try and sound as much like Shae as possible.
@@johnmorris1009 Half ambiguous Arabic accent, Half ambiguous Asian accent, Half ambiguous English accent, Half -ambiguous- Australian accent
[ _taps side of forehead_ ]
@@reaps912 That makes sense because the actress is quarter English, quarter Argentine, and half Japanese. That's one globohomo character.
I think those are really just one point lol
@@johnmorris1009 I just call her shae 😂
Good that Alicent didn't hear Aegon say "Mommy" or she would have thought that he was naming her the heir. 🙄
It's so satifying she's getting what she asked for but didn't think far enough ahead to realize as soon as her husband dies she's going to matter waaaaaay less haha
😂
im still baffled by the sparkle of this dumpsterfire XD
I have seen this exact comment last week😂
LOL!
Mysaria is the most uninteresting part of the show and is actually starting to annoy me, the kiss scene was cringe and forced
Those scenes are so obviously written by one person and inserted in with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. At least in Stranger Things S2 the cringe girl boss episode that has nothing to do with anything was localized into one episode that can be skipped
Agreed.
The actor who plays Mysaria is awful as well. The only other actor on the show as bad as she, is the guy who plays Alan.
I hated all the scenes with her in season 2 haha they tried to make her varys female version so hard omfg cringe
It was so out of nowhere and forced. Not even remotely hinted in the books. They'd rather give us lesbian kissing scenes than actual story
why TF does everything have to turn Sexual, that last scene felt totally forced and unnecessary.
Scene with alicent/brother and Larys/Aegon were the best ones.
THE MESSAGE
Ummm game of thrones was always full of sex. The show kicks off with Jamie and Cersei having sex.
They have made the White Worm the Missandei-type of this show and it's super weak and frankly annoying to the point that every time she's on screen I physically cringe. The last scene was the nail in the coffin
That woman is Sofia Coppola levels of bad acting...
Her acting is some of the worst I’ve seen this side of a CW show.
EXACTLY! How tf did she get the role
This episode was written by the same person who wrote the 'power of maaaaany' ep. of The Acolyte. Not a joke.
Had to look it up and holy hell!
It’s funny they keep saying how much better this is than the acolyte meanwhile it’s written by the same people.
@@jackpallet1814 It’s scary that they keep giving these talentless people jobs, but at least HotD has quality source material, acting, sets, dialogue, and a show runner who actually knows the IP. Gotta tick those checkboxes though 🙄
@@jackpallet1814Even a broken clock strikes the right time twice a day, I guess.
Explain why it sucked so much.
Why is Daemon still sitting on his ass after 5 episodes of tripping balls receiving toxic masculinity reconditioning therapy and lectures about the plight of women under the patriarchy having trouble raising an army when he is the most experienced, charismatic and renowned warrior of his time, with Valyrian steel and a dragon until he gets the help of a woman who is most likely giving him the forced therapy? Especially when the book says Alys had no affect on him at all and by this time he had already taken Stone Hedge easily resulting in Riverland banners flocking to him. The feminist fan fiction is exhausting.
Yep, gone is the cunning and worldly person everyone enjoyed. The writers are doing this deliberately, they didn't like how beloved he was in S1
Yeah, it's pretty strange that Daemon, who was so successful in creating the goldcloaks as a force very loyal to him, is now struggling to get men to follow him.
I like this show, but i think the decision to put Daemon in that castle for this many episodes was a colossal mistake. Im not sure they’ll recover from this.
fully agree. They pulled a bait and switch with House of the Dragon. Just a social engineering agenda vehicle now
@@frankvandorp9732 My thoughts exactly. One thing established in s1 was that he is great at rallying men to his cause. Now he is failing in a cartoonish manner.
Hard to take the "sexist men don't trust rheanyra because she's a woman" seriously when she spent 5 episodes doing nothing
also when they bash you on the head with the concept over and over
Everything they said about her has been true. She's indecisive, emotional, and inexperienced.
But she's the writers favorite, so we must pretend that it's everyone else's problem for not accepting her like the White Worm did
Exactly, even the "but I'll ride my dragon into battle" is dumb as hell of her bc she's never taken a dragon to battle or even been in a battle like Rheanyse or Daemon and we saw how that worked with Aegon. She legit has just been bitching this whole season and never once had she said you know what maybe my father was wrong and I'm not fit to rule and I need to just surrender under conditions of amnesty
She's wrong but never really called out for it. She "wins" every discussion she's in. They did the same with Rhaenys. It makes it very grating to watch at times.
@@jlogan2228 She also called Jace inexperienced. I'm confused as to what experience she had fighting in a war as a dragon rider. She just says things.
It's getting absolutely tiring to watch. I won't lie.
They are starting to lose me
Stop being a snowflake
That last scene came out of NOWHERE! What the hell? This is a scary herald of things to come. These two had no sexual tension or even flirting, and then they just become LESBIANS? Both of them were into men, and the same guy, mind you.....
typical, they think sexuality is a choice that you get conditioned into doing. But then will claim that its a trait you are born with.
💩
It's the "Frenchie way" to replace out of the picture Leanor as gay representation.
Modern audience coomer brain creeping into the show.
Bisexuality exists. Rhaenyra has 5 sons, you don't have 5 son if you're not interested. Plus it's implied in the book Daemon and Rhaenyra were in an open relationship. So it's not completely out of nowhere
Rhaenyra is such a crybaby, I stopped counting how many times she complained about everybody questioning her.
But the truth is she is BAD, really BAD at waging war.
Which sucks because the books portrayed her as more bloodthirsty and ruthless at this point, since losing Luke. I don't believe this version of Rhaenyra will do what she does in the last stages in the war, because she's too passive. If she does do it, it'll be mocked as much as Danaerys's actions in the last GOT seasons
@@iemzafwhich was also what the ending of season 1 lead to think
Female writers think that this is what makes a strong leader.
And the show points this out. Literally this episode she admits to it. What's the issue?
@@Dutchyman it's taken way too long to get here and she STILL hasn't done anything but bitch slap one whiny old man
About the female characters not being flawed, yes, Alicent absolutely is portrayed as a very flawed person.
But Rhaenyra, Rhaenys and Mysaria are not. They are never called out. That's because they are women who reject their societal norms, while Alicent accepts and embraces them, and the writers want to send the message that Alicent is wrong in her choice, while those other characters are right.
In Hollywood, when a female character is accepting a more 'tradionally' female role, this is never because she made such a choice out of her own agency, it always has to be that she has been influenced or brainwashed by Men to think like that. The only "right choice" a woman can make is to reject femininity.
That's why this show protects Rhaenyra, Mysaria and Rhaenys, but not Alicent. Because Alicent is the wrong kind of woman in their view.
Thank you. It's been bothering me for a while
Spot on. Plus, the greens are much more interesting because of their flaws.
this is exactly it
Spot on.
The war happened because Rhaenyra is a thot, she is 100% portrayed as flawed.
I can't help but feel unsatisfied by Season 2 so far, the set up feels like set up rather than actual story. Daemon is spinning wheels in Harrenhal, Rhaenrya is sitting around waiting for the other people to come up with ideas and plots, the smallfolk are being set up, Addam and Alyn, Alicent's now powerless. It feels like the only characters actually making decisions are Aemond, Aegon, and Cole, which is why those are the characters that have been the most interesting.
Yeah six episodes in and it is super booooring
I'm done with this show, I'll just read the books some day
The last two episodes were drawn out, Mandalorian style, for sure. Maybe it gets better on the whole, but, for now, you’re right.
Couldn't agree more, exactly my thoughts.
They f'd it up. To me it seems like this show is too big for the people producing it.
Mysaria is terrible....her actress cannot act or emote or anything ..delivers her lines like she's reading them over someone's shoulder off screen
I think they gave her direction be like Shai as much as possible and it doesnt work at all.
75% of the season gone, and we got Gaynhera slaping old men trying to be fearful. I mean if Will Smith aint fearful I don't know who is. Also Rhaenyra risking everything for a hookup, sounds like herself, she has been doing it for years.
Honestly that scene was embarrassing. Compare that to the scene where Daemon intimidates the king's guard in S1.
@@Here4Hummus To be fair, I think she's meant to look desperate/weak in that scene to some degree.
Good point.
@@SolarDragon007no she’s definitely meant to be seen as strong and taking action that scene. It’s why it’s brought up later as a joke by Jace. They don’t take things like that seriously. It was supposed to be a cool funny moment for the Whore Queen.
Reading these comments gives me faith in humanity. The quality of the writing and logic of the world has gone off a cliff.
Too bad listening to the people who are supposed to attack bad writing and defend good, are defending this shit writing.
They did not even address the massive plothole of Corlys bastards being able to ride dragons they are half Velaryons and not Targaryens.
@@NorthIniumI mean it was the same issue in the books because they were thought to be Laenor’s bastards
@@a.r.mproductions5616 Not really as Laenor is the son of Rhaenys ??? So he has both bloodlines in him.
@@a.r.mproductions5616 Laenor's mother is a Targaryen lmao
Mysaria- "Lemme trauma dump real quick, my dad is a butt-head"
Rhae-Rhae- "OMG I'm so sorry that happened to you for real"
*out of nowhere kissing scene*
These two characters had zero romantic chemistry and didn't share a scene together until 4 episodes ago. Their kiss and romantic interest makes no sense and I feel inclined to say that if rhaenyra was a man in that scene and used someone's gratuitous SA survival trauma story as a way to steal a kiss, that scene would be viewed for what it really is, out of place and pretty slimy.
Fan fiction inserts and a plot that has ground to a halt over the last two episodes, there are two episodes left, let's hope they can recover the plot. bring otto back.
Rheanyrea this entire season: I am Queen, you should fear me!!! Why do you not respect me!?!?
Whiteworm: You treat me as your equal.
Me: Uhhh no she fucking doesn’t.
The White worm is like some 2024 insert into this era.
Literally they’re doing everything to make me hate whiteworm. It’s terrible acting and she says the stupidest things.
This was the first episode Rhaenrya said you should fear her?
@@olhanoliva4731
Out loud. The entire season Rheanyrea is complaining that no one respects her rule.
Um… yeah she does. Listen how they talk to each other.
Daemon sitting around having dreams all season is getting a little old.
I feel it’s a sign the writers don’t know what to do
The source text doesn’t give him much to do either
True to the material though.
imagine making hallucinations boring
@@GP2141BC having not read the book Ryan and Gary seem to imply he hasnt got anything to do so its a cheap way to write things that have some interest without battles or something for the audience
This show is just "women make awful decisions because men are bad."
Art imitating life then?
@@Entreped Good point.
@@zhengyingli Women like to say the west is an evil patriarchy. What they really mean is men are better at certain things and this makes them bitter and resentful. Unfortunately society has been gaslighting people for some time now into believing men and women are equal. We never have been and never will be. Women need to accept this and start playing to their strengths instead of playing at being men. The world would be a much better place. Hell, it was for many decades. It's funny how women are the most "empowered" they have ever been in history yet they are the most miserable they have ever been. Coincidence? I think not.
Poor misogynist
MOEE LIKE WOMEN SCREW UOP AND WOMEN ARE INCOMPETENT AND IT'S MEN FAULT
I really hope the Whiteworm betrays Queen Rheanyrea. It would make all of this set up actually pay off
I just want both to die and Jace takes control those 2 are such shit and useless characters now
she kind of does in Fire and Blood, stirs the pot a shit ton and whispers into Rhaenyras ear that Daemon and Nettles are lovers and are going to betray her but since the show cut Nettles idk what the fuck theyre going to do with that plot point
@@whatisreddin7367probably make Rhaena gay with Jane Erryn so that they can come back and have a 4 way scissor fest while crying about how men are so evil
@@Gojeto346 😭😭😭 considering every plot leak has been saying that Corlys and Jace betray Rhaenyra and take control of the war and fuck everything up for her I wouldn't be surprised at this happening too 😅
@@whatisreddin7367 very brave of the show to say a black man would betray a white woman
I'm kinda getting tired of the rheyneys "it's all cause I'm a woman" schtick. As usual the women will absolutely not accept the responsibility of starting the war between their families and yet still think they would be the best to lead. Just wow.
Rhaenyra, kind of, forgot, this war happened because she was a thot.
not only that, she has made a ton of bad decisions, inaction and huge strategic blunders, and continues to ostracize the people on her council.
Lord Broom and Lord Celtigar were right to counter her decisions and suggest alternative council but its framed as "these men cant handle a strong woooman". I dont think the writer's know how unlikeable and stupid they've made rhae-rhae.
The Greens started the war by usurping the throne. Viserys had made his will known, and by law the throne belonged to Rhaenyra. You are incorrect on that.
@@holysecret2 I'm with you. I don't like the greens. What I'm talking about is these 2 women's petty infighting was the start of it all and it bled down to the children. When all is said and done these 2 really are the catalyst for everything happening now. Oh and her dad Otto.
@@holysecret2 And they had the support and leverage to usurp the throne because it was painfully obvious Rhaenyra was The Thot That Was Promised and her kids were illegitimate.
If her kids were legit, none of this would have happened. Otto would have still wanted to put Aegon on the throne instead, but he'd have had no support from the other houses.
Feminist writing by people who believe a woman is whatever an _individual_ thinks or feels one to be. 🙃
The pandering is off the charts.
this victim celebration culture is beyond me.
Nowadays people who lived through trauma like to feel as if they are main characters or beyond casual living, they want small things to hold on to to stand out and embolden themselves with it, it’s just strange that they need so much representation throughout every form of media yet are still the victims of this world when it happens, every scene offered with lgbt or diversity deals with someone with an intense case of trauma and or sad backstory that never goes anywhere but being a catalyst to let them either kiss or fuck the other characters, they should’ve built up Rhanera and mysaria and maybe the kiss would’ve made sense, but to tell us where she got her scars from to talking about her being raped and used by the rich all her life by being a whore to Targaryen’s and a whistle blower to the high towers, you’d think the girl used by so many royals would be a little more hesitant to kissing THE QUEEN, when all she has to say to Daemon is she doesn’t want to scheme for him because she doesn’t want to play highborn games anymore?, they’re forgetting the character traits they laid out
Rhaenyra the victim; She demanded to be her fathers heir throughout her life, and despite everything she did to disrespect her house, he kept her as his heir once he'd chosen her.
Then she moans about not being brought up as a warrior and having to sit back and rule. Over-entitled 😂😂
I struggle to see how it is celebrated?
Many of the characters are shown to be suffering, that is true, but they are hurting others as well. I see it as more of a neutral (or rather both empathetic and critical) exploration of the cycles of violence, victimhood and trauma, with the clear implication that both causing and being victims is not good and to be avoided for the betterment of all.
@@holysecret2I see u r enjoying the koolaid.
@@valyria-rd2tt Mostly to women though. (almost) All women adore "victim status" but only the weakest of men think it's something to strive for. (or believe it removes the entirety of their personal agency)
Me at the start of HotD episode 6: "gee I hope they start to downplay Mysaria soon, she's so jarringly out-of-place from the rest of the show"
..
Me at the *end* of HotD episode 6: "are you FUCKING kidding me"
They're trying way too fucking hard with her, she's easily the worst character in the show and that's almost universally agreed upon.
@keatonisballin she's varys on sleeping pills 😂
Why are people so mad about this? How is she out of place or "bad".. everything seems to line up to me
she should have been killed off multiple times by multiple different characters, OR if she was really so smart and cunning and a survivalist as she's portrayed, she would know that multiple powerful people will want her dead and she would disappear herself. Instead she runs to Daemon for safety, the most erratic and violent and untrustworthy person in the realm. Hilarious and nonsensical, and thats only the tip of the icewall when it comes to all the problems with her story.
@@Narcissistic_Penguin She was bearable but the dynamic they've set up is that its Rhae-Rhae and Mysaria against the whole black council. Even though Rhae-Rhae was slow to act when the war was on and then when she made one strategic decision, it was disastrously stupid. Even if vhagar wasnt at rooks rest, sending a dragon was a stupid call because of the strategic insignificance of the keep. The men around her are not misogynistic for being like "make a good decision or listen to us."
Celtigar was right.
This season it really feels like they split up the writing team into two separate teams for the blacks and the greens, and the greens got all the good writers, while the blacks got all the Rhaenyra and Mysaria stans.
Almost everywhere this season is discussed, you'll hear people say they enjoy the greens this season much more than the blacks. Their scenes are just so much more interesting to watch, the blacks are bland.
I think the problem is that they are trying to made Rhaenyra too good in the show, unlike the books, and that means that she can not do anything that is "bad" while the Greens can be the "grey" because they are trying to make them look worse than the books
Completely agree, its not any great conversations on the black side and i dont really care about the counsel members. It seems They just dont know what to talk about and the writers in THat situation isnt at its best
@@finitorezim4107 so what's giving that impression? So far she's been weak indecisive and she got both her son and aunt killed? Is she too good because she was hesitant to go to full on open war?
@@thesaltmerchant4564 Well, for the startes she ( and Daemon) did kill Laenor in the books
I don't think it helps that (almost) all of the show for the Blacks are taking place in two places; the halls of Harrenhal, currently distant from any fighting, and the councilroom of Dragonstone, completely removed from the mainland
We must be weeks if not months into the civil war at this point and it's like barely any chess pieces have been moved across the board towards one another
I'm still enjoying the politicking, but what we're seeing amongst the Greens is simply more compelling for that
Rose-tinted glasses, in my opinion. The "it's refreshing to see competent writers doing great things this episode, in contrast to certain other show that sucks" is particularly hilarious to me: This HOTD episode was LITERALLY written by the same person who wrote "the power of mannnyyyyyyy" Acolyte episode, and if you pay attention to the writing, it really shows.
The nuanced characterization, subtle plot threading, and exquisite pacing of Season 1 are gone. Half of the characters are stuck in a repetition limbo, making dumb decisions or fighting for DEI points, and the way new characters have been introduced is really bad.
Yeah but Gary said it’s worse in the book so now this is exempt from all criticism. Duh.
i thought people were kidding when they said it's the same writer as the acolyte episode...
She also wrote the best episode of HOTD season 1.
You didnt pay attention to the episode if this is your serious opinion
2:21:21 Ryan and Mauler don't get it. The dragons having such completely different names is what makes it feel real. It makes complete sense for dragons bred by Targaryens to be given Valyrian names, but a wild dragon like Sheepstealer will instead be named by the common folk who encounter her, hence her name.
And many of the dragons are named by their first riders, so it makes complete sense that different riders prefer vastly different names. "Moondancer" sounds like a name a little girl might give to a pony. That's because Moondancer is Baela's dragon, hatching in her crib, so she literally was named that by a little girl.
Yeah I like that the younger generation of Dragonriders don't choose Valaryian names as much for their dragons. It's almost like they are further removed from their Valaryian heritage than prior generations.
Seasmoke makes perfect sense for a dragon raised by the son of the sea snake, especially a gray and white dragon, he probably would’ve been a kid when he named him as he did hatch him, and Seasmoke would sound BADASS to a 6 year old kid lmao
Seeing how this show is progressing, I think Az was right to sit this one out.
He was. They’re showing their true colors now, between the forced lesbian kissing and the race swap seasmoke rider I’m officially done with this DEI crap.
@@TrivialPawn look at this dummy lol
AZ was definitely right for not watching this.
@@TrivialPawn You’re completely clueless. Addam claimed Seasmoke in the book🤡
@@discobroccoli198 Addam Velaryon is white.
Team black turning team rainbow
LOL
It was atleast hot.
@@Azntim9 this guy definitely jerked it to the scene.
@@sabalmal1288not fuckin at all. You need help
Now we now why she's been spared by the writers.
Personally I feel like the show is starting to die rather quickly. We already established that a Dragon bonds with their rider for life and only death can break said bond. I just feel like HotD is kind forgetting all the plot they established previously.
Also when Velaryon were not Dragon Lords than why the fuck do the bastards of Corlys be able to ride Dragons lmao ? Like isnt that a huuuuge plot hole ?
In addition to that just to much wasting time with Daemon having his dreams it gets boring to seem him relive the things that haunts him and the blacks plotline is written like shit while the greens are super engaging.
I feel like HotD is at least in writing speedrunning into GoT S8 quality.
While those points may be fair, the book portrays it the same so we can't blame the show for following the source material. Possibly the answer is that Velaryons interbred with Targaryens
@@RTDKRunner But the book doesnt do that though the key points maybe but not how we get there.
Thats like saying GoT season 8 was still accurate because it hit the key points GRRM told the producers
@@RTDKRunner In the book Addam and Alyn are Laenor's bastards (them being Corlys' is just from Mushroom) so them being dragonriders makes sense with a direct Targaryen ancestor.
look rhaenyra's husband was gay. everything about his toll of being gay was very much in good taste with good going character.
I DO NOT THINK, rhaenyra and white worm kiss came out in good taste.
i love watching kiss scenes but it felt so unnecessary. it was a GREAT HUG of gratitude turned into meh casual kissing scene that no one asked.
Especially after she just told rhaenyra about what her father did to her, not the time or place for that
"I love watching kiss scenes"
Never heard this before. Makes me curious. What are some of your favourite kiss scenes, then?
@@badlyfilmedvideos1450that she only told her to inform the audience about how most men are evil potential rapists because they really hate women, so it's fine
It would be so much more interesting if we think this is Mysaria playing Rhaenyra by cozying up to her when she's vulnerable by lying about her backstory to gain sympathy but in reality its Rhaenyra faking it and playing 4D chess to get close to her and gain her trust so when Mysaria betrays her down the line she will have foreseen it. I know the writers aren't gonna do that but its so much more interesting and would show Rhaenyra is smarter than we think she is and is a good strategist. Instead we're probably just gonna get boring girl boss power couple. After them not fixing the Rhaenys story arc I don't have faith in the writers to be that clever.
Morons on twitter definitely asked
Mauler is the only one that sounds like an honest critic here, Gary and Ryan are just eating all of this up even tho the show runners are changing so much of the story / lore from the books. Where is the consistency, if this was Star Wars they would be losing their minds.
They’ve both made it pretty clear they don’t think the book is very good, and they like the show a lot better
@@TaniksCaesaryou can just dislike the writing in both you don’t have to like one over the other😢
The book isn't particularly good. Most (though not all) of the changes have been improvements.
@@fconstraintsThe chapters that this show is covering is very entertaining because of the Civil War aspect which they watered down from the start with race swapping the Velaryons and changing the ages of characters (Laenor/Laena/Alicent) which eliminated certain plot lines.
@@Gojeto346 or u just butthurr that they dont hate on the show like you
No offense, but I think the actress of Whiteworm is notably less talented than everybody else on the cast. Every single sentence is delivered the same way by her... How monotone can you talk about your childhood trauma? Yes.
Its strange because I really liked her in DEVS and Maniac.
Well, check out how she’s described in the book, she’s an extremely obvious diversity hire.
Wait, is it possible that writers are doing the same shit that was present in Ahsoka?
Did they not say to show no fear or the dragon will not accept you? So the guy showing fear running through the woods scared out of his mind....Seasmoke accept this DEI rider? lol.
Seasmoke will because Seasmoke’s unique ability is virtue signaling.
@@NorthwoodsWolf XD
I thought that too. Adam was all about that fear
looking at the scene seasmoke would need to put addam into it's saddle itself lmao
@@filipstysiak your comment made me picture a black guy in a stolen car saying "it kept following me and suddenly I was magically inside it, it forced me to drive it". They should've just made him tame Seasmoke during the trials, it would've fitted his ambitious character. This.. just seems weird.
2:14:10 they absolutely do protect Rhaenyra and they did with Rhaenys as well. Olenna Tyrell was loved for her salty demeanor, because she was a great actor and had great lines. Rhaenys' brand of salty behavior was not endearing at all, yet she was always propped up even after killing hundreds of innocents and not giving 2 F%ks about it.
With Rhaenyra, she is protected because of who the actor is. On other social media, they have bombarded us with loving memes about her for years now. She gets 90% of the memes, with the other 10% going to the other characters of the show. If a woman like Rhaenyra had been as awesome as Daemon and Viserys were in season 1, they would have swept every award available. Its gotten to the point now where the show runners are giving Rhaenyra lines based on who the actor is, not based on the character she portrays.
They should just have Rhaenyra order Laenor's death in season 1. Would have made Rhaenyra a more interesting character, and it wouldn't have created a plot hole with Seasmoke.
Yes! It just makes zero sense that Seasmoke bonds with a new rider while Laenor is alive - riders and dragons are linked spiritually. If dragons could just be "rebonded", they could have just taken Vhagar from Aimond in season 1 - the whole "he stole my mother's dragon"-plotline is invalidated by this turn of events. Or they are implying Laenor died off screen which is a hilariously bad "twist".
It's so stupid. Because as far as Rhaenyra knows, Laenor is alive, and YET, she has the guard dude try to claim Seasmoke. A claimed dragon. Like literally have him try for any of the others. From her perspective. Why the hell are you having him try on the BONDED one? It's not like she hates him and wants him death, he genuinely wanted this to work. What?
Agree.
That would make her the bad guy and we can't have that. L
This is written by an Acolyte writer 😂 just goes to show- if it was disney star wars these guys would hate it. But they love it! Funny
This comment is so over the top you would suspect Disney hired you to write it
There are many worrying blunders this season, but it still offers many redeeming qualities and is overall a worthwhile watch.
You exaggerate a lot by comparing it to some of the worst Disney Shows imo.
Gwayne grew on me A LOT this episode.
Yeah his scene with alicent was great
Agreed, he came off as a bit of a whinny brat in the first few episodes he’s in but this really showed that there is more to it than that
@@justlivin2499 I didn't like him at all to begin with. Pleasantly surprised that my opinion of him has changed a little bit.
He was the star of this episode! God damn that dude can ACT!
Gwayne won me over with, "They will not expect it because it is fucking madness!"
Seasmoke said, once you go black you never go back
Weedsmoke.
😂😂😂😂
As a type I guess
😂😂😂😂
I'm not even bothered they race swapped the Velaryons. I'm bothered about the fact some character created for the show is riding a dragon.
The show seems like it's trying to make us root for Rhaneyra over Alicent but all Rhaneyra has mostly done this season is _be indecisive_ and then, when she _does_ make decisions, getting people killed. And yet there's this unpleasant undertone of "aw man all these mean people around me are holding me back and preventing me from doing what I want to do" when she is the literal Queen for the Blacks. I could be wrong, of course, and I kinda choose to believe this isn't the case, because it makes the scenario more believable that she's simply out-of-her-depth as a general when she was raised to be more of a diplomat. Meanwhile, the Black's _general_ is over at Harrenhal _trying_ to learn the ropes of diplomacy on-the-fly
Conversely Alicent, at this point, has been progressively pushed out of the circles of power she worked so hard to get into (by her own children, no less) yet we're watching her continue to machinate new ploys to keep control over a situation she's increasingly losing control of
I'm still enjoying the dynamic of the show, as there's just as much "warfare" going on _within_ as there is going on against one another, but the words of Anita Sarkeesian ring through the decade and make it difficult _not_ to separate any 'unspoken narrative' (be it intentional or not) from the true narrative of the story itself
I'll keep watching, but at least part of the reason for me watching is to see just _which_ episode they indisputably hook the top of their foot under the proverbial hurdle and fall flat on their face. As it stands now, however, I'm willing to let the story unfold and see if some of the eyebrow-raising moments tie together later on. And if they don't, well, it'll still be quite spectacular either way 🙃
I'm getting worried they will fk up the heroic Daemon thing when he fights Aemond, and will swap it with Baela or Rhaena being the hero like they did with Arya. That would be a huge disappointment like GoT.
It's getting increasingly difficult to ignore the feminist bent in the show with each episode. Although equally flawed, all of the female characters are painted to be sympathetic who are only trying to do the right thing, where as the men are war mongering, abusive, manipulative and power Hungary.
Jeacerys, viserys, strong family excpect larys and many other male charachters are selfless and mostly good hearted. Your just blind to your paranoia.
@@Thor12233jaceerys is a good actor but the writers don’t know how to utilize him. They are just saving him for his naval battle
@@piratekingluffy376 i wasnt talking about that. I just said that he wasnt an evil character
I miss cersei 😢
@Thor12233 and they're boring characters
Read in Drinkers voice “Rhaenyra’s gay by the way.”
I was literally thinking in my mind that they better not and then they did.
There was no setup between them and they kissed after the white worm told Rhaenyra about how her father raped her? That was very ick
“Oh your father raped you, murdered your unborn child, and left you for dead? I’m pretty turned on rn so I’m gonna kiss you without your consent. Plus I’m the queen so I have an insane power dynamic that would be seen as toxic if I were a man.”
I had a feeling that was where this was going with Rhaenyra and Mysara....
And for normies like my mom she is getting bored and expecting something to finally happen.
Yeah I’m excited but both my parents who watched game of thrones and season one of HOTD have checked out, my wife has no real interest anymore either.
I don't get the deal with this season, I liked the books but this season is boring like hell
Bro I'm a die hard book reader and I'm struggling, this season has been beyond mid except for a couple events.
@@keatonisballin there are moments where I'm thinking, Yes! That was good let's keep it going. And then it takes a few steps back. I don't even need a ton of action, but we need to feel like the interactions are paying off. I'm definitely interested to see how they structure these last two episodes..
Sometimes it could be how you feel, and watching it weekly.
There were some shows I thought were a bit slow watching weekly, but rewatching it normally it's usually a lot better.
Like game of thrones, I kind of forgave the ending after rewatching it. Still bad but not as bad as I remembered on the first watch 😅
You guys are in denial: the writing this season has fallen off a cliff. It's so much worse than Season 1 that it doesn't even feel like the same show.
Really? I disagree. The first four episodes of this season I thought were the strongest in the show so far.
I would say that episodes 5 and 6 were slightly weak though.
Yeah first season was better. For me personally, Paddy Considine was the best part of the show. With him gone, it's just not the same. If he was here, it would at least make up for some of the poor writing. I don't mind slow episodes that build stuff up, but five of the six episodes have been like that and it's getting ridiculous. Some of the narrative choices have also started drifting into woke territory so that doesn't help either. We are all desperate for good entertainment but unfortunately this is going downhill fast.
Agreed, writing and acting in second season, are definitely big let down from first season, i'm actually suprised that Mauler or Ryan don't seem to noticed how much show became worst in almost all aspects.
@@MrVctory the first season is the best. The second season is garbage. Its boring to death. And the lesbian scene was disgusting
yeah I am surprised at Mauler especially. he didn't notice how dumb Rhaenys behaved in that last battle of hers. her opening move was questionable, I mean the guys were already being mowed down by arrows, why not torch the treeline? sure, maybe the trees could've hidden a dragon lying in wait. But in that regard....on the note of hiding a dragon, her final move going straight for the castle on a cliff that could easily hide Vhaegar was not battle intelligent at all. the battle choreography is highly questionable too often for a season with so few battles thus far @@themarkofoctopus1548
I feel like season 2 has turneu into the equivalent of a modern game that get released, get a good review, and 2 months later they dial up the microtransaction wheel thinking nobody is watching. That's it for me, I'm out.
Same.
Same. If I hear it gets better I might come back but for now I am done. Season 1 was fantastic, outside of Rhaenys randomly killing hundreds of people for no reason. If that hadn't happened I would have considered it a flawless season. This is clearly another bait and switch and I should have seen it coming. We have more then enough examples of this being done and I am over it. I don't know why I even bothered after what they did to GoT. Az was smart to stay away.
They have not done any real work to get the white worm and rhaenrya to be together the way they did this episode. And if you look at the white worm and her scenes, you realize that the writers are just having her end up where they want her to be. Oh shes a whore who daemond liked and now shes a master of whispers for the smallfolk but now shes lost her power and fleeing for her life because of the greens but now shes the master of whispers again for some reason for rhaenrya while having the hots for her. Theres no bridging of these ideas, just the final results. Which makes that makeout scene between rhaenrya and the white worm that much more weird because there was almost nothing to show they liked each other until their tongues were down their throats.
Also rhaenrya was whoring around alot when she was younger and never bothered to be with a women but all of the sudden now shes trying tbe other isle of the sexes when she vowed off whoring around? You can tell this was just some arbitrary push by a new writer who wanted to "shock" he viewers with a lesbian kissing scene.
Also i want to say this as well. Rhaenyra is starting to become a miserable character. You can tell the writers are siding with her and having her be the correct person at the end of her scenes. Rhaenyra can scream for the death of allicents child but its purely daemons fault. Rhaenyra can scream at her council thats just trying to seek victory in this war while Rhaenyra says she wants to do what she wants to do because shes a spoiled child. Rhaenyra can get an innocent man killed by having him attempt to fly a dragon and its the elderly man fault at the end for berating her for makint such a stupid decision. Its all of that and just every scene with Rhaenyra feels virtually the same. "Im queen and no one is listening and i should be doing what i want and i should be out in the war with my dragon." Rhaenyra, you're one the most important people who also has literally no experience in this thing youve been thrusted into. Listen to tbe people who know more than you. Shes getting irritating to watch now
It's starting to vibe like the last of us thing, idk if they learned to not say it out loud this time "we tricked you into watching gay romance".
This constant LGBT pushing is really messed up because they're conveying to the audience that you can never have a close same sex friend without it becoming sexual. Why couldn't Mysaria and Rhaneyra just be close friends and allies, why isn't that enough? :S
Imagine what the world today would have done to Frodo and Sam from the Lord of the Rings. This is why cinema will never again reach the heights that it has because everything has to be about sexuality and female empowerment at the COST of male masculinity.
@@Digital_Necromancerthere are people who try to claim that Frodo and Sam were in love. People who don’t understand the story and definitely never read the book
NOOO, GAYS IN MY SHOW ABOUT DRAGONSSS???
If you truly didn’t pick up on the extremely obvious sexual tension between the two of them from their first scene together, then that is on you…
Doesn't there a scene in GoT that infere Oberyn Martell fuck both men and female?
Season 2 has been a let down, it's time to admit it boys
Daemon at Harrenhal is a drag move on from that plot already!!!
Gary and the guys have put so much of their effort into claiming that House of The Dragon is quality tv they are now stuck, not being able to laugh at how ridiculous it has become. I'm starting to get Mauler vibes when he claimed the last of us was great tv and refused to change his mind.
It is great TV.
@@Dirty_Hamble Gotta get that bar above ankle height
its honestly baffling to me how these guys are so into "muh acolyte bad" and "muh hotd gud" tribal thinking that when HOTD gets a shitty episode with some redeemable scenes they can't call spade a spade. This ep was 4-5/10 at best, just say it was shit and move on, lmao.
Let's not forget Mauler also considers God of War Ragnarok to be peak storytelling.
He's got a pretty good track record with his critiques, but I'd take his praises with a grain of salt.
@@damienfritz5626dude, film expectations are low which is why I'm maybe saying this but that game does have some amazing scenes and lore in it! Haha definitely better than what we got with the clash of the titans remakes, etc .
When Alicent's brother casually mentioned he war in the Reach, as a non-book-reader I almost said out loud: "Why the FUCK are we not watching THAT then?!" Also I hope they do something with the Lannister army, I actually started to hope that we might actually get something resembling a war anytime soon. I get they are afraid of Caraxes but god damn, in GoT we felt like the war of the Five Kings was actually happening even if it was off-screen a lot of the time. I'm bored with Daemon and Paddy is not making up for it.
We came here to see medieval fighting and dragons, but they rather show us ghey stuff.
The rot is setting in
Just because of one f-ing lesbian kiss?😂😂😂😂
@@sup3414 I couldn't give a toss about a gay kiss, it's that the white worm has a rediculous amount of plot armour and I don't believe for a second the queen would do this
Gary has lost his mind. Critical thinking is out the window with this show….
💯 agree... They are behaving almost like shill media... 🙄
With each passing week, season 1 >>>>>> season 2
Which is saying a lot because season 1 was incredibly average. There's just nothing compelling in this story.
By far, and only because Viserys carried hard with his acting.
Agreed, this season for me isn’t even a mixed bag it’s been 1 maybe 2 good episodes so far. Overall the quality this season versus last isn’t anywhere near the same. It’s better then everything else on tv atm but that doesn’t make it good.
@@brandonm4550 I thought the first 2 episodes were very good, ep2 in particular might be one of my favourites of the show. Brilliant acting, music, directing But it very quickly has gone downhill, crawling to an absolute snails pace in terms of story progression. And whilst the the male vs female dichotomy was balanced I felt quite well in S1, this season seems to be a bit more in your face "men = violence, women = democracy".
Many of us said this on episode 2. Modern Hollywood can't help itself.
Hugh getting a dragon was the most telegraphed thing this whole season.
I get Daemon is violent and chaotic, but it was Rhaenyra who asked him to marry her, it was her who needed him for his military skills. And now she gets angry when Jace tell her they need him? SHE NEEDS HIM!!! Rhaenyra needs a slap in the face more that the one she gave to her lord whatever. Mysaria is going to betray her, come on, she was not even loyal to Daemon in the first place, always sending her gossip to Otto so Viscerys and Daemon stayed appart. She is going to get manipulated like a puppet by a not really compelling character. Anyway, also a lot changes that doesnt get resolve, like Laenor's fate. And no conversation between Corlys and Rhaenyra after Rheanys death and him being named hand? I dont know... I will finish this season, but I dont know about watching S3
I just checked out, this last episode was atrocious, I regret giving Hot D the benefit of the doubt, but only cos S01 was decent, if not good, but mostly bcs of Paddy and Matt Smith, now it's all going off the rails fast, so I'm out lol.
Every single one of these after episode discussions have asked questions that never get answered. I don’t understand how you guys keep letting them get away with this, but with The Acolyte you just expect them to not answer stuff. Weird, weeeeeiiiird. Can’t wait for you guys to watch this without a bias and realize how shit the writing has been getting.
omg, was that a Zegler "weird" because that's exactly how I read it...lolol
Worst episode in the series. It made me think of dropping the show.
same, i feel really let down. i thought the build up was going to matter
Same
Pretty damn poor
i think this ep should have focused almost exclusively on the dragonseeds, I think instead of just darklyn the black council should have collected everyone bastard or not with known valyrian blood on dragonstone, speed up the plot of getting the hull brothers to claim a dragon. they should have devised an avenue and reason for ulf and hugh to flee kings landing. also they should've shown otto in the free cities at the end of the episode, which is where he obviously is. ep 5 was fine for being slow, ep 6 was painful.
💯 think I'm done, I've pretty much done that with every show for most of this decade DEI woke crap everywhere... 🙄
This show is getting more diverse by the episode and the fact that it has women writers and directors is becoming increasingly evident, too. It's a shame. First season is decent, but it's going full Netflix Witcher on us.
It's getting really annoying. Started with the "queen who never was murderous girl-boss" and here we are now.
Complaining that it has women writers makes this comment sound like sattire
Since when is having diversity just bad. The issue is poor and forced implementation of diversity not just diversity 😂 what the fuck is this comment!?
In what way is _that_ “becoming increasingly evident”, exactly? Also, literally no one working anywhere in media would ever care that you or any other right-wingers don’t like diversity, so COPE.
@@milan99cz Excuse me?! Rhaenys fighting at Rook’s Rest literally happens in the fucking book!
Last week i was literally all over the comments trying to wake you guys up on the wokeness of this show. The man-bad woman-good undertones, the breaking of lore, the bad characterization, the horrendous pacing, and so on. But you guys thought i was overdoing it but now they've thrown it in your face and you have to see it whether you like it or not.
And you know what? It's only gonna get worse so buckle up!
Great acting and CGI though😂😂😂
This show is quickly shitting the bed in my eyes, I’ve been giving it the benefit of the doubt but this season is starting to smell. Theyre not addressing enough and still continuing to create new things that need addressing. This is nowhere near the tight writing of early GoT. It’s starting to look like season 7 going into 8.
This writing is highly above anything past S4 of GoT.
@@zzickos Kinda but also not.
@@zzickos Cope. Season 2 HotD is all about luck-based plot, meandering pacing, plotholes, aborted arcs, Medieval feminism, fetishes and major deviations from source material. The show has already imploded. Roughly GoT Season 7 writing.
I’m fully expecting they’ll pull a D&D and announce season 3 will be the finale and only 6 episodes long.
Yeah, was trying to like this i really did. But unfortunately i'm a realist, season 7-8 GoT sounds about right:/
At least we didn't have to wait for 6 seasons for the show to circle the drain. It only took 15 or 16 episodes depending on what you thought about ep 5. They just can not help themselves.
I really do appreciate they didn't let me buy any further into it honestly, ill always remember Season 1 episode 8...just a masterpiece carried by an old white guy...
Same with Otto masterclass....
I also like Corlys a lot hell even his brother....
If it gets any worse I'll watch season 1 now and then or maybe just episode 8...I'll buy the season used...instead of hating where it's going I'll appreciate getting 1 good season
Episode 5 was ok, but the woke themes kept coming up. I was hoping they'd tone them down this week, but.... 😂
"rheanyra good, dragon-trump bad" If you read a storm of swords they talk about rhaenyra's ultimate fate, and at this point I can't wait for her story to be over
@@ShawnGilbert1967 "Otto Masterclass" Such a great nickname.
@griffinsalmon5798 I have read it and watched the show I remember Joffery speaking to it and my old man brain can't remember bahahahaha which is good....
My YOUNGER brother turned me on to GOT books and Wheel of Time many many many moons ago....and another Erik....I'm scared to say because I don't want an algorithm to pick it up and ruin it as well
No way is Nerdrotic using “it could be worse!” As an excuse to this shows writing. You guys need to get it the fuck together, you sound like acolyte shills.
This
Cope
@@discobroccoli198 explain? I would love to hear it
@@Gojeto346 What’s there to explain? Cope with the fact that people like something that you don’t.
House of....... THE MESSAGE. 🌈🙄
HOUSE OF FEMINISM
GAME OF DEI
yeah, dragon chooses random black guy to ride him. Reneyra kissing another woman
, wtf, is this getting woke?
You've obviously never watched Game of Thrones
“Random black guy”. He’s literally the brother of his previous rider…
@@discobroccoli198 Laenor had a direct Targaryen ancestor via his mother. A bastard of Corlys has no known Targaryen ancestor. Also, in the show, Laenor is still alive. A dragon is bound for the life of it's rider.
@@RAZGR1Z it's the same character that claimed him in the books. The targs and velaryons have been mixing for generations, even aegon the conqueror's mother was a velaryon, so it's not farfetched at all. As far as laenor, it was implied that seasmoke has been lonely because he lost his bond, as in laenor died offscreen. That part is pretty dumb cause they only did it this way so it wouldnt be team black's fault unlike the books, but it does make sense within the show.
We gotta put one of the Valarians in a wheelchair, I’m so close to getting bingo on my dei card
Aegon will need one, him and the other cripple had a long talk about that.
Introducing Mr. (Dragon) Glass
HoT D is spiraling into bad fanfic at this point, and if the leaks are true Mauler will not like the ending of this season.
I can't believe people haven't noticed that this entire show was contrived with the notion that "these 2 brave thoughtful women on opposite warring sides are doing everything they can to prevent these war hungry men from leading everyone to their demise". they took the original story and warped it to make sure these 2 are always in a better light. It's a shame, because you can see how good the rest of it is surrounding them.
You really think thats what the show is trying to do? Are people this dumb?
The show has several issues, not just the changes with the two leading women.
Whiteworm is the only actor who’s not doing their job. I can’t think of anyone else being so badly miscast on top of also giving such a bad performance. Everyone else is putting some of the best acting performances anywhere on television starting with Otto.
She even changed her accent between seasons
My problem with the actress playing Rhaenrya is she is always over acting like she is doing Shakespeare. The only good thing about this dumpsterfire is Aemond.
Yea and they are completely wasting him. They hate that he was so popular in the 1st season and are cucking him.
@dalet8777 he said aemond not daemon
only thing that could make white worm exciting is that otto actually double agented her to infiltrate dragonstone.
but in all likelihood with the overemphasis on her impact she girl bossed and assassinated otto and that's where he went 🤣
side note it feels like theres two teams of writers fighting against each other.
one team is the good one doing their best to adapt the work.
the other team was given responsibility for the female characters. 🤣
It seems Rhaenyra has developed a taste for the greasy goose
😂😂
The only reason to watch House of the Dragon was because Miguel Sapochnik was the showrunner now that he’s gone it’s gone it’s garbage the writing is bad. The directors aren’t great. They need to stop inclusivity and just hire the best people is what it all comes down to.
What I find jarring is the script… extremely flat. Overly modern in places (some of the peasants sound like they are from modern day east London/ Essex). I miss the compelling dialogue of seasons 1-4GOT
Can someone explain how kings landing cant get food when they have access to the whole of westeros via land. Do they not grow food on westeros everything is imported from essos via the sea?? Rhyneara litterally said they have no land army. Who is stopping tb supply lines on land?? Wtf 😂
The realities of wagon transport are stopping it. Kings landing has a population of nearly 1 million. In an age before trains and trucks, the only way to haul enough food in to feed that population is by boat. The city needs so much farmland that by the time grain and produce from the outer farms arrived the people and animals hauling it would have eaten it all.
There's a reason the only premodern cities to get close to this size (e.g. Rome) were built on navigable waterways.
Daemon scenes are taking way too fucking long. absolutely sick of them needing 50% of episode screen time for long boring ass dragged out visions, just to tell us: "look how vulnerable & regretful he is". 🤮🤮
Targaryens learned long ago not to put women in charge
Otto's grandson is flying him in first class.
Wow, this podcast is such a copium. Season 2 keeps imploding more and more with each episode. Writing is legitimately atrocious.
"Imploding" and "atrocious" are gross exaggerations
@@holysecret2 More copium.
1. The season's plot is driven mostly by luck and stupidity, like Mysaria randomly spotting Erryk or Alicent letting Rhaenyra go.
2. Character arcs for several main characters completely changed direction in between seasons (for the worse). It is especially apparent with Rhaenyra and Alicent who act out of character for most of the season so far.
3. Worldbuilding is a joke. King's Landing is supplied with food mainly by land, in HotD and GoT both. There is zero reason for city to starve from blockade alone. Stark army does not need to cross the Twins. Viserys whispering name of a heir does not matter. Whether in the book or the show's canon.
4. Pacing is barely alive. Characters are just stumbling from scene to scene as if nothing is at stake.
5. "Medieval feminism" is so preachy and dumb it is laughable.
6. No time for characterizing minor characters or fleshing out the world, but there is time for creepy perverted sex scenes.
7. Not even mentioning the book because HotD failed as an adaptation.
Dumb plot, inconsistent characters, major plotholes, snail-paced narrative, woke historical revisionism, disgusting content and a failed adaptation. It is a joke.
@@tentonmotto6779 "Historical revisionism" my dude, it's not real history.
@@jmaitland5709 Both in the books and in the show Westeros is clearly inspired by Medieval Europe, with fantasy elements sprinkled in. Medieval Ages were decidedly not feminist in the slightest for numerous reasons. Book Westeros is not feminist either. If your story operates by (loosely) real life historical logic, you can't just violate it by applying modern agenda and justify it by "it is fiction!". Choose one or another.
@@tentonmotto6779 The show doesn't make the world feminist. It's a pretty major part of the show and book that a society like Westeros is not happy about having a female ruler, and thus the struggles that someone trying to be a female ruler would face.
I feel like I'm explaining why the sky is blue.
3 important things I believe you missed:
1- When Aemond leaves Aegon room he clearly (if heavily implied) instructs the Maester to keep Aegon under heavy milk of the poppy "long recovery"
2-Laris says the spell was put on him by "someone from his house" probably referring to Alys Rivers
3- Adam DOES NOT have Targaryen blood. Corlys is a valerion and Rhanies isn't the mother and Yet Seasmoke accepts him?? (unless Gary and Ryan know something from the book and are avoiding it?
I think in the book, Addam and Alyn's mother was a dragon seed.
I liked Gwayne since after the scene in the woods, but I was very impressed with his conversation with Alicent.
i loved that scene because he really sold how hopeless he was feeling. He has no faith that he will survive this war.
I feel like you guys are being way more charitable to this series than you would be to others, like objectively there are some very poor writing decisions on display this season, and it seems like you're quick to sweep some arguable inconsistencies, plot holes, actions that are out of character, etc. under the rug. I mean this episode was literally written by one of the writers from the Acolyte!!! Like textbook slop you guys make fun of every time you review this show but you can't notice a majority of the same failings present in this show from the same writer???
I'm not saying the show is completely devoid of good, I thought episodes 1-4 were pretty good overall, 4 being great even, and even in this episode the scene with Larys and Aegon and Gwayne and Alicent were great, but I feel like you guys really need to take off the gloves and start holding these writers to a higher standard cause they've shown us they're capable of that with earlier episodes (Eileen Shim also wrote lord of the tides, one of the best episodes of season 1, she can do better and should!)
I have been overwhelmingly generous this season, but it feels like maybe Miguel should’ve stayed on. Because there’s a lack of craft happening. Plots will be interesting and then the pace will drop, a piece of dialogue will be solid, but it’s not shot successfully for the scene, the characters that should have dynamic aspects of them are boring, and the general just inability to keep Consistency.
Miguel may have been the gloss holding craft together. And whomever is making the decisions to change so much of the book plot, i.e. making a Rhaenyra, the cheater, and dumb down, every major positioning from season one in the build of Rhaenyra’s and Daemon’s bond, only to then to throw him inside of a castle for six episodes, with no chemistry in the plot. Except when Milly Alcock came back, I’m just dumbfounded that Nettles is being cut and the entire plot given to the daughter. I don’t know I’m just like a mess. I thought this was going to be, a stronger storytelling experience than Game of Thrones. Season one and I would say episode three and four of the season work really really well done. But I can’t explain the rest of this. It’s just too inconsistent and I don’t understand much of it. Maybe they will fix it! Maybe I’m totally wrong!
Daemon is about to do a Jon Snow, just wait for the moment we get a "Muh Queen".
They're cutting out Nettles? The fuck? She was one of the best parts.
Agree, i thought in the beginning episodes this would surpasse GOT, and with episode 4 i was sp hyped for the future. Now i feel their filling it up because They dont know really what to do, and the modern politics and woke sjit starting to come in with gay rhanerya. Maybe am wrong and THat the show Will Get better but am not impressed
@@thomasberg77were getting dragonseeds trying to mount on dragons next week and a battle in season finale so hopefully more action this last 2 episodes
GOT in its first 6 seasons were much better in terms of adaptation, characters and plot. The story itself was more interesting and varied and the characters in GOT connected on a much deeper level. Even season 1 of this show is not comparable to the quality of the first seasons of GOT.
Allegedly it was Emma D'arcy's idea to do the kiss... why oh why did they listen to them... I found pretty much the whole episode kinda underwhelming, dare i say disappointing, but the kiss scene especially so; just felt so jarring and not properly set up, plus as many have already pointed out, Mysaria just unloaded her deepest sexual trauma on Rhaenyra and then her response is to get aroused and kiss her? I immediately thought she was going in for a kiss when she went in for the hug and was relieved when it wasn't then immediately disappointed when it did happen. 🤨
For real. Trauma-bonding is NOT the vibe
Love how much Ryan appreciates Helaena also, man wants an autistic bug gf badly
Makes sense coming from a woman who thinks she’s a “they”
HOTD season 2 is overall quite good, especially when they stick to the source material, as they tend to do a solid effort then.
But again and again, especially this season, they put some lone blunders in each episode which really bug me. They're just so predictably bad and I can't see how anyone would not point that out when taking a second look at the writing. They really need to navigate these things carefully from now on, the audience will not be satisfied when characters constantly whine and develop in circles. It is very satisfying when both parties are competent and move the plot forward.
The hard focus on Alicent and especially Rhaenyra needs to stop, as it stagnates the plot. We need more ensemble action. Let the likes of Jace, Aemond, Criston etc. shine on their own.
All that critic Uhuism aside though, when HOTD hits, it hits hard, as we saw in episode 4 and many other scenes in S1. So please dear writers, calm it with the Rhaenyra melodrama.
"Them"?
This season is disappointing. Mediocre dialogues, people needing to state the obvious again and again as if it isn't clear enough. Four episodes of Daemon hallucinating. Those "dreams" just to show old/dead characters the public likes. Feels cheap as fuck.
I don't think this season is anywhere near the quality of the first one, sadly.
@@opalakv4ob what’s the bad dialogue? I need 5 examples, or you’re wrong. You have 1 hour.
Literally zero factual points.
@badlabs1 he doesnt have any.
@@ImBrockatron I honestly think people like him should just watch a loop of explosions, and stay away from TV, and movies.
@@badlabs1he just said he like S1 which had little action like this one, the problem isn’t ‘explosions’ like you are saying but dumb plot lines ruining the story such as Daemon’s Harrenhal arc, this Rhae lesbian thing and her taking no action and being so indecisive and countless other things they have done/focused on when they only have 8 episodes not 10, this is the third episode this season (3,5,6) that has been majorly disappointing for me. GOT had little action in the first seasons yet was 10x more than what this s2 is
This series became a rampant diarrhea from episode 3 onwards. I dropped it.
"Do nothing" seems like a recurring theme this season, it drives some characters insane and some who actually do nothing end up being rewarded for it.
We’re watching this show collapse in slow motion
hard to collapse when it started at rock bottom .
@@iangiovanni6555season one was pretty good not gonna lie, season 2 is hoping to god it can pull together some twists with Daemon dreaming at harrenhal and Rhanera cheating on Daemon instead of Daemon cheating on her with Nettles, so sheep stealer is probably gonna be Daemons daughters and he’s gonna be playing dad of the year this season. It’s all just a lot
@@lordsaladman9819 it is clear they are doing daemon good husband/dad arc
@@lordsaladman9819 you could see the problems if you wanted to, but it's getting silly now
@@lordsaladman9819 Replacing Nettles with Rhaena is a big problem later though.
Fuck this show. I’m done.
You people are so brainroted that you cant even enjoy a very well written show.
Cope🤣🫵
This season is nothing. Why do they keep telling us about events instead of showing us? No real battles, but lots of talk. Each episode has short comments about things that if they showed us would make a great interesting episode all its on. Instead we get more talk and no action with nothing advancing the story. Just circling the idea something will happen. Compared to season 2 of GOT this is about one fifth as interesting.
And Damon. My group was watching and literally screaming, if you are being poisoned or witchcraft is making you crazy, and you have a dragon just leave. So we were happy when he was headed for the dragon, but then lets himself be manipulated into staying. Dude, this is out of character to be this stupid.
The kiss was bothersome as a trope by untalented writers. All the while almost no matter what the show would be better if SOMETHING JUST HAPPENS, instead of stalling everything out in dribbles. Good, not great writers could tell this season's story in two episodes and be better for it.
Just read Acolyte writers did this one. That makes sense. Seems just about the same low quality writing from ridiculous people's mind.
What are you talking about? Episode four was a major battle
HOTD has lost its way, season 2 is nothing on season1 , the pacing is terrible.
The only good things in this season are aemond and aegon
The starving city makes no sense. Kings landing isn’t an island. Blockade is all well and good but the whole of the continent is attached to King’s landing and there is no Black army on the mainland
So many errors in this show it’s mad
Think about it just a little bit harder and you'll get it
@@karljonson3287 It's illogical
@@fracturededits6778 marine trade is the biggest trade that can happen cause stuff travels on ships, not chariots. On the land they can get lamb for example. For dragons. On ships they can get food in bulk. Its also faster.
@@karljonson3287 yes you explained the status quo for the movement of goods. But this is war, if there is a blockade on the sea, the only option is the land. It’s ridiculous, people leaving King’s landing to go walk to other places where there is food, surely that food can be brought to King’s Landing
@@fracturededits6778 and it is brought in but not enough for million people
Like most "modern" shows, it's so easy to spot the stuff that is not part of the source material, and it feels so unrelated to the story and shoved into the show just for the sake of it... Just like The Boys went off the rails since season 2 when the producers decided to throw away the comics and just come with their OWN story and modified characters, GoT season 7 and 8, and it's sad that HotD is starting to get derailed too. Az was smart not getting invested into this until the show is over. I guess it's nice to wait for a new episode every Sunday, but i'm not expecting much to improve at this point, and disappointment feels like it's nearing in. It's a pity since most of the actors are great and the core story is well done, but the "improvements" the Hollywood lunatic writers are adding to it are bringing it down.
I actually like the Daemon in Harrenhall plot. To be fair the book is written like an assortment of historical documents as opposed to a laid out story such as GoT
Thought it was a good episode
@@GLitiatc0 Why? It's a complete filler, it's not going to lead anywhere, nor contribute to the main plot. It means nothing aside from padding the episode's length. That's all it is for. The book gives you various versions of the same story, and yet the show decided to discard a lot of it and go their own way in many parts which is both stupid and devalues the book itself. The show should've taken one of the book versions on a case by case basis, depending on each part, and revealing to the audience what was "the true version" from among those presented in the book.
The Boys comics are SHIT, they were right to throw them away
Bro having a seizure because Rhaenyra kissed a woman, grow the fuck up bro
If you go through old posts about Devs, the fans were all talking about how Sonoya Mizuno (Mysaria's Actress) was ruining the series with her bad acting...
Can somebody explain to me why the blacks haven’t sent a dragon rider to Harrenhal to talk with Daemon and see what he’s doing? I don’t understand the idea of sending foot soldiers to harrenhal, which will take weeks of traversing war torn lands, when Jacaerys or Baela could easily fly there quickly and find out?
How did they get all the food boats delivered through so easily without any patrol catching them? If theyre being blockaded youd suspect them to have some kind of counter measure, such as patrols from your own fleet for invasion from sea, right? Or am I missing something here?
Ermmm well you see the writers needed those boats to make it to land for the plot to unfold okay?
Why don’t they just get food via land. Isn’t the kingdom quite large, and full of farmer? The blockade only effects goods arriving by ship.
@@joba4848 In the middle ages transport by river or sea was always the most popular as you can carry far larger cargo and far easier than on land, one more reason why people always civilized around rivers and such