"DON'T BE SO SILLY!" 😠 This Man City fan CLASHES with Simon Jordan over his clubs FFP charges 🔥
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- Опубликовано: 23 май 2023
- Pep Guardiola spoke out about Manchester City's FFP charges yesterday during his pre Brighton press conference. This Man City fan called up talkSPORT to have his say!
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“What has cheese got to do with it?” 😂😂😂
Much like Man City's financial records ... It's full of holes.
I've always thought the saying was "What's that got to do with the price of fish" never heard someone use cheese
@@john70689 what’s it got to do with the price of tea in china is the original quote
Tony was a proper 🤡 😂 definitely not up to challenging Simon about business.
0:44 - 1:25 typical jordan..subjective speculation to `win` the argument. try to find that reasoning anywhere in ffp
Man City is most definitely guilty. They were investigated by 2 different organizations over the same charges. Besides, it simply makes no sense to build a case on 155 fake charges, nobody just invents cases to that degree. It takes a lot of resources to build a case that size with no basis behind it. 3-4 allegiations are one thing but 155 over a decade is something entirely different.
From "we haven't broken any rules" to "the rules are crooked", deary me, the state of mental gymnastics this lot has to do
haven’t done anything wrong but PL is slandering city’s name because city aren’t owned by white billionaires
To this day the Cheese still asks..."Why always Me?!?!"
It’s not a company if you’re pumping more money in than you’re ever going to get back it’s not possible for other clubs to compete unless they have other owners who want too throw their money away aswell and even if a few clubs find owners like this to compete with city the rest of the league will suffer, what city are doing is detrimental to the premier league.
So if you have money and you buy a small struggling team in the league, how will uplift the economical status of this team if you can't pump in some money? At least what Simon said makes sense because you're given a period you can pump money to buy good players so that you can compete with the big boys.
You know City are profitable right?
@@metacommentary6791 oh yeah they sponsored themselves £500m 🤪of course they are !!
@@Joe-yy1lv did you forget Brighton you little snowflake
@@metacommentary6791 They really aren't
Lmao. FFP wasn't brought in to stop clubs going bust. That might have been UEFA's narrative but we all know it was to stop City, PSG and Chelsea spending
And chelsea just spend 600 mil no body cares
City wins things that hurts so they are after city
Dont get it twisted tho 😂 not a single charge will stick 200 city lawyers are making sure of it right now
worked well for Bury
FFP was created by the big clubs so that no one come and take from their slice. It was never to keep the balance in football.
Was bit of both but it stop rich owners from getting bored and leaving the clubs in a mess leyton orient southend for few examples
Exactly but because of Man 👨🏻 City Dominance and Tremendous Success
Short comers such as Liverpool, UTD, Chelsea n Spurs will do whatever it takes even unethical 2 Stop Man 👨🏻 City 🌃 Success @ All Costs
See this can’t happen in a Country like 👍 Germany 🇩🇪 Less Corruption and More Fairness despite Bayern won their Bundesliga 10 Years in a Row❕
Partially - but when Neymar went to PSG for 200 mil it basically fucked up the entire football economy. 99% of clubs can't compete with that not just the other big clubs and the trickle down effect of that is highly damaging to the whole football structure. If you're happy with european football turning into pretty much Qatar vs Dubai then everything else below that then fine. City should be able to spend a lot of money but they should still be able to balance the books.
Leicester have won the league Tottenham have challenged , Liverpool ( who are huge , but was in the wilderness for 30 years ) built a team by selling Sterling & Coutinho and buying great replacements ) it can be done. Man City just couldn’t be bothered , so they rung an Arab and took the easy route
@@Joker-et2je Spurs are literally the best run club in world football. What are you on about ?? Where everything a big club should be ( only minus the ON FIELD success ) but we’ve completed spending what only we earn
Tony called into live radio to let 3 million people know he has no idea how debt works in business!! 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm actually staggered a full grown adult is this clueless. I bet even some city fan's were willing him off the show pronto 😂
FFP was introduced to prevent smaller clubs from competing against established Elites ......no need to spin it as anything but that.
True 💯%
@@dr9465 if they cared about sustainability they would change the current accounting practices and introduce a salary cap ....but sustainability was obviously not the goal of these rules...Man City is guilty of getting 100 points and dominating the Prem while not being a member of the established elites.
of course it was
if it was to be really fair everyone should be given the same budget to stick to
Newcastle & Brighton
@@Joe-yy1lv brighton are only where they are because of having a ton of money pumped into them as are brentford,.
Thanks for the laugh Tony needed it today
If the goal of ffp is truly to encourage teams to be financially stable and not just a rule begged for by the old guard to stop city, city’s model would be praised for its ability to generate a profit in under a decade, how much debt and initial investment is literally meaningless if it’s a profitable venture now, if you can’t see this you have an agenda or bias
Because those other four teams didn't cheat, they took 30+ years building to what they won and achieved. Man City exceeded the revenue of Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea in under a decade? Pull the other leg caller you're team cheated deal with the consequences when they arise.
City fan said it himself. “FFP to stop clubs spending money they don’t have”. They didn’t have it.
City did have it by that time ..... City, Chelsea and PSG, were the reasons FFP came into play in the first place , they were spending far too much in the eyes of those that tinker with the governing football rules in England and Europe, and the powers that be weren't happy with it ... and especially when Premier League rivals were complaining!
Simon Jordan talks some shite ... he knows no more about City's internal affairs than any City fan does, myself included!
@@barryh.4220 no they didn’t.
@@mattbarker3873 Sheikh Mansour took over City in 2008, and City immediately began strengthening the squad with quality players like Aguero .... FFP rules were first thought about a season later in 2009, and introduced three years later in 2011/12, when City first won the 'Premier League' with a much improved squad ... Chelsea had already been spending big by that time, and are still at it ...... and PSG were suddenly seen as being a law unto themselves in the european transfer market ..... FFP was NEVER introduced throughout earlier years when United and Liverpool were dominating and spending millions .....think about it!
@@barryh.4220 we’re talking about APT, they’ve broken rules for years. Stop singing off the city fan hymn sheet. What they’re doing is a disgrace
@@mattbarker3873 When City are actually proven to have been involved in some definite wrongdoing, you might just have a case ..... but until then, like all the rest, you are just spouting utter meaningless bullshit!
APT is only about allowing sponsors to spend what they want, and why shouldn't somebody or some organisation sponsoring anything be allowed to do that??
Why are the Premier League raising and restricting that, what are they scared of ?? Clubs becoming more powerful than they themselves are??.
"We're profitable" only because the sheikh has shell companies that sponsor the club for inflated prices. I wouldn't be surprised if they offer a £1 million meal that 8 of them buy every week from the club in their royal box 😂
lets make up hypotheticals when we have no idea
@@johnnylara Pretty sure he’s just having a laugh.
Sound more like a 40yearoldvirgin. The club were bought through banking oil is only around a fifth of the owners wealth.
@@ramps2402 I don't think he is on the first part of that comment and it's equally as ridiculous as the second half. Etihad and Etisalat are shell companies? The CAS report didn't reveal City's UAE deals(which btw don't even account for half in total of the commercial revenue) were within the Fair Market Value range of the club as far back as the 2012/13 season? That isn't even the accusation being made. The UK press in particular either don't understand it themselves or this is all a very deliberate campaign on their part(possibly paid for) to create as much noise and reputational damage as possible. Half the people moaning about City don't know the difference between private ownership and state ownership. Or Abu Dhabi/The UAE vs Qatar(different countries completely and they aren't allies) or Saudi(a much bigger, more powerful country, with a much worse reputation than the former two mentioned... Who United have happily taken millions from for years).
@@Metali-tin City accepted a fine for €60million which was reduced by €40m for "good behaviour" back in 2014. How is that not an admission of guilt?
Even if your statement of it not being half were true (it's not), UEFA specified their concerns with the £350million value of the Etihad sponsorship and deals that raised £47m from image rights and intellectual property in 2012-13. That's huge in revenue terms.
The obvious smear campaign from the British Media outlets you refer to... the "leaked" emails that have them bang to rights were from a German outlet, feller. 😂
You have to hand it to Simon he knows what he’s talking about and no one will get the better of him
That’s why Gary Neville won’t go on the show. 😂 Simon even put Piers Morgan in his place as well!
Eddie Hearn schooled him😂
Simon is wrong. When Michel Platini introduced FFP he said "I just want clubs to spend money that they have". Well that's what City did.
So you mean to tell me Man City has more money than Man United?
@@kingsleyrams742 yes they are owned by the UAE you fool 😂
@onlyfacts9969 the owners not the club,the is no way on earth Man city generates more money than Man United, not even more than Liverpool
@@kingsleyrams742 First, where do I mention Man Utd.
Second, what are you implying with "Generate". Are you one of those fools who thinks capital isn't money and therefore believes when you receive money from investors it doesn't exist.
Third, LOL
FFP since 92 equals 21 United league titles out of 30. Therefore, rather than complaining about Blackburn's Chelsea's Leicester's City's owners, you should be grateful to them for making the Premier League the most competitive league in Europe.a
Why has Newcastle been brought into it? We haven't spent masses of money like others, far from it.
Jordan says that city fans have this idea that everyone is against them when 9 teams literally complained to the Premier and tried to have them punished. Thats not having a tinfoil hat its literally a fact.
USA Owners Clubs,Utd,Pool,Ars..
Conspired greedy Super League
City collapsed Super League
Levy lead PL Clubs charge City?🤔
Yeah I hate it when someone spots a crime and they call the police
@@simonc4077 isn't it just the WORST?
Criminals have rights too! Blue lives matter(?)
@@simonc4077 😂😂 exactly
@@simonc4077lmao but nothing about chelsea because they dont win ? you bunch of hyprocrite clowns luckily nobody cares about these nothing opinions 😂 except me
So if clubs end up with owners who spew 50 million quid away and run away, then, the said owner ends up on a radio station yelling out how people should run a football club that is the bit i dont understand.😂😂😂
Man City would be nowhere without that huge influx of cash they received back in 2000 .
Leicester City have agreed to pay the Football League £3.1m to settle the league’s long-running claim that the club breached financial fair play rules when they made a £21m loss in their 2013-14 season....
Everton and man city still being investigated
is he jonny vegas
I saw city at Fulham in 1998 in old third division , they had one season down there so not exactly a struggle was it ,,,
Yeah we lost 3-0 Friday night match
@@craigmullen9046 Dirk leman got 2 John salako with other ,I’m a fulham since 1966 and I can’t moan about teams money as al fayed bought fulham 3 promotions in 4 years .👍
thats the whole point mate, you are a third rate outfit with lipstick on
@@raymondbonington9355 started since the inception of the premier League. Look at Jack walker at Blackburn
Simons explanation of why FFP was brought in is utter rubbish. It was brought in to keep the core four teams at the top of the league, simple as that
There was absolutely no chance of city overtaking United organically without a takeover, anyone who thinks that is absolutely deluded. Nobody complained when united won 8 in 12 years, but now city are doing it, its ruining football
At the end of the day, any club who gets a takeover should be able to spend what they want, all this spend what you earn is absolutely rubbish
I've supported city since 1994. I've seen some absolute dross and of course I enjoy what I see now. But at the end of the day, these rules are in place and if we've broken them and get found guilty, we have to face the consequences
Facts
Love how he mentions the time barred evidence yet doesn’t say anything on the evidence that was investigated and was cleared at CAS. The etihad deal which everyone thought for years was dodgy was cleared. If the Etihad deal was cleared, why isn’t it possible that the etisalat deal wouldn’t have been cleared? Time barred evidence was City’s fault like Simon says it was, the evidence just couldn’t be investigated. That doesn’t mean we were guilty, we would have just defended it like we did with the Etihad deal.
Pep will have a completely different tone if City's trophy cabinet is proven to be the result of unethical financial practices. And although City have not breached the regulations since 2018, it is an easy argument to say that had they not done what they did from 2008-2018 they would not have been able to generate the income to have complied in more recent years. I have no idea what the penalty should be - demotion won't work because they'll be back up within 1 season, exclusion of the City ownership might lead to them setting up their own Super League - would the EPL risk that?
The Melbourne Storm breached NRL salary cap rules here in Australia and while everyone remembers the great football they played and games they won - their premierships were taken away. Note - the titles did not go to the runners-up.
Man said that Brand of Football cost Money finally a City fan comes out the closet on their spending 😂😂😂😂
SJ just lightly brushed him away.!
He's a hypocrite
Simon = top LAD proper clobber
SJ doesn't know what he's talking about, no football pundit explains properly what the charges against City are or understands FPP, meaningless big words but as the caller says what cheese got to do with it
Another episode of Simon schooling callers
So many clueless football supporters, its laughable.
Simon hasn't the first clue , he's wrong about the original fine for starters 😂. It was a fine because we wouldn't show a bent organisation in uefa . We waited to show cas who's not got any agenda against us . That's is why we got a fine . Just like we don't have 115 charges it's 5 !!
Simon maybe is pushing a narrative with City.
Same Simon that couldn't run a football club btw! Embarrassing Stan's
Simon = top LAD proper clobber.
Welcome to the jordanites grimbo 🤝
FFP may have started as a way of dealing with dodgy owners and clubs going bust, but like so many things, when the established powers that be got their claws into it, it was turned into something quite different. Simon says that debt is irrelevant, but it isn't. Yes bigger businesses can take on bigger debt without it being a problem, but it's telling that early drafts of FFP made references to debt, but it was swiftly taken out and the only thing that ended up being focused on was aspects that involved investing in playing staff (i.e. the one thing that would be a threat to existing big clubs). It's no secret that big companies seek to influence regulation in their favour, and will often be in favour of regulation if they think it will hurt their rivals. Excessive debt is what destroys clubs. It would be entirely possible to allow owners to invest in clubs while not risking the clubs simply by saying that any investment above a certain FFP limit has to be a gift. But protecting clubs from going bust has been an afterthought for a long time.
which is exactly how city is setup the club has no debt the money was gifted to them , it was part of the agreement when the sheik took over the club for next to no money, he was looking at everton but their directors wanted too much cash
Simon got this one twisted - FFP was SOLD as a way to keep clubs from bankruptcy - but is WAS sheer protectionism to prevent rapid growth from new money. Debt is not an issue for clubs - Glazers still turn a profit with debt - if the rules wanted to address insolvency they could have simply implemented a conservative debt to equity ratio or debt to revenue ratio instesad of limiting a clubs spending, but that was not the real aim.
what is wrong with protecting european football from corrupt money, and having regulations for clubs not spending more then they earn
Reading the comments most people don't really know why City are being investigated, FFP says you can only spend what you earn as a club, so how then in the early days did City manage to buy players like Aguero and Silva? there's even a story that Robinho thought he was signing for United at first because he didn't even know there was another team in Manchester, no one had heard of them and they weren't playing in any major competitions yet, Yes NOW they're a commercial success, now they're getting Champions League Money, Premier League winners money etc, they're a profitable club NOW but it's a bit crazy how this club came out of nowhere, it's very obvious they were fudging the books and doing things like only declaring 60% of the transfer fee whilst the other 40% was paid through offshore accounts, kids and plastics wont care about any of that though
U can't make rules now and then charge someone under those rules for past crimes they may or may not have committed. What the EPL us doing is going to set worrying precedent because other clubs will be charged under this rule also. Because it feels more like we can't beat you on the field, so we will destroy you off it. This is the reason why uefa started to create all these new rules, so as to protect the big clubs and their interests as they don't want new challengers
@@Cyrus-rodn45 FFP was made all the way back in 2009 so City was doing this when this rule was already in place, that's why they're being investigated because they broke the rules
@@ryan1111111555555555 ffp said the owner could spend for a couple of years then the club has to self sustain. If u read the cas ruling u would know that cas highlighted all of this and said u cannot use new laws to charge for old crimes basically
FFP is massively flawed then if its taken this long for them to be punished for signing the likes of Robinho
Everybody knows that they're cheats, it's not really news. It's pointless to debate it. Lets see if they have enough money to bribe UEFA out of their charges or not. That's really where this conversation matters the most.
Tony moved the goalposts a few times 😂😂😂
Every league title city has won is tainted because they broke the FFP rules city fans can cry about it but cheating is cheating...
Never forget they wanted super league as well
The super league is inevitable
No one complained at city when we were in the 3rd tier of English football and utd, Liverpool, arsenal could spend whatever they wanted to build their clubs into the mega clubs they are, it's called fairness Simon
Why are people listening to Simon about anything financial related . The man is a failure of an owner. You don't get a second opinion from a doctor who committed malpractice
Bury are the only club to go insolvent in the last 50 years, argument dead .
FFP was originally about making sure clubs didn't go to the wall like Leeds over 20 years ago when they spent money chasing champions league football and Portsmouth who spend money they didn't have when they won the FA cup.
i have more respect for the fans who say if they did it, i don't care. At least they are honest.
Have to give it to him, Simon is a G.
Simon shouldnt be saying City are guilty, when the charges havnt been proven in a court of law .
City can always sue him and produce evidence that proves their case, I'm guessing they won't.
@@wolfen210959
Who failed to show Proof in Court
City,UEFA/Establishment?😂
He didn't say they are guilty he said he believes they are.
@@wolfen210959 EXACTLY.
If you cant see city are guilty no one can help you!!
Man city litterlly released numbers that said they generated more revenue than Liverpool , man utd and Real Madrid 😂😂😂 they stuggle to fill their own stadium and DO NOT have fans all over the world yet you people actually believe they may be telling the truth…. 😂😂😂
For Simon's proposal of being able to pump money into the club for the first few years, would that create a system where clubs will become investment funds owning many assets that can then drip feed into their revenue over a longer period?
I don't see anything wrong with that though as it's still a level playing field, however maybe not fair on current owners, why not just a system where every 4 years owners are allowed to invest an extra amount into their club which is capped based on the tier that the team is in, so for example, every 4 years Championship team owners would be allowed to invest an extra 50 million of their own money if they want to, and Premier league owners say 120 million
@@ryan1111111555555555 That wouldn’t be a bad idea although I don’t really see it happening
Regardless of the intention of FFP it will simply cement the spending capability of clubs and amplify the Real Madrid effect in football.
Owners should just be made to pay up front the cost of the players they buy and the cost of there entire remaining player contract to the club. That way if they sell the club the club has the finances to honour the contracts they have regardless.
Man city fan did have a point tbf to begin with about if you have money to boost your business then why not. Football communism, only certain clubs are allowed to drink at the table.
It’s because City ain’t a London club n owned by Arabs/Middle Eastern n Simon funded by Qatar 🇶🇦 not UAE 🇦🇪 so a lot of dirty politics involved more than any wrongdoing by City❕🙄
I don't think you know what communism is
Because you can not allow people to lose hundreds of millions of pounds it creates an imbalance. I’m pretty sure Simon, explain that
@@adammohamed.. well to be fair I do. The bulk of people all stay on the same level and a few make themselves to a position which they can't be challenged. Hmmmm
@@richardholmes8027 Well where else does everyone have a god given right to be successful ? Seen any white people win Olympic gold in 100 metres , Federer , Djokovic, Nadal , Apple & Amazon ? The best are the best. What’s happened with Man City & Newcastle is you have unlimited money and distorted the market. Why couldn’t Man City & Newcastle build like Tottenham or even Brighton ??
At the heart of Premier League football should be sporting competition, not business. FFP is here to protect smaller clubs and to insure any oil state or Russian gangster don’t clean themselves within our beautiful game. TBH they failed miserably. This could be anyone , it might even be Tottenham in a few years , we are a very attractive club. I personal don’t want these people , I can understand why you do. I still remember the real City
FFP was introduced to maintain the status quo under the guise of "financial fairness & Stability" . Football is more of a business than anything else nowadays sadly.
FFP is a mess and Fifa, Uefa and all the leagues dont apply it properly . Its there for a reason so clubs like Everton and many others including City dont end up insolvent. If clubs with state ownership do as they please thren whats the use of competition. So you spend what you earn and balance books . One can understand City fans frustration as their on field achievements are great .
I guess the likes of United is balancing their books with over a billion dollars in debt and Old Trafford falling apart.🤔
Lance Armstrongs achievements were also great. It's hard to win the Tour De France.
What you don’t realise is Real Madrid have been backed by the spanish royal family for 70 years. I didn’t hear anything about ffp when they bought the galactico’s
@Rodney231 well yeh coz the owners anrt spending on the stadium, an the club is that big they can have that debt
@@lefthandlee I guess that comment must be an attempt at sarcasm because you can't be serious with such a ridiculous statement.
The way the call ended was incredible
Simon is bringing the political influence that he hasn’t proven to the equation into the discussion while the discussion should be pure financial. And that’s the reason he’s bitter against City.
The problem is he doesn’t say the same when an American guy is doing the exact same thing with Chelsea!
The other problem is that what’s wrong with someone who owns a company to pump money into it to make it successful until it’s sustainable.
Look at United and the debts that they have to pay, and no one mentions them.
I’m not a financial person to say City are abiding by the rules or not. But I see people are attacking them for other reasons.
I’m an Arsenal fan who hates City as a club.
Do you even watch/listen on a regular basis? The fact that no one is taking about the debt of Man Utd, is that it is irrelevant, Man Utd are able to meet the requirements of paying for their debt, and buying the players they want, because they have a substantial commercial revenue, which has been built up over decades. City can outspend anyone they wish to, because they fudged their books, and injected cash into the club through dodgy commercial sponsorship deals.
You, being an Arsenal fan, should fully understand about debt, your club built it's new stadium with debt, and the repayments on all that debt meant that Arsenal could not buy whoever they wanted to, as in previous years, so you did not compete at the top of the league and is also why you failed to win it this season, because your squad did not have the strength in depth that it needed.
Simon is wasting his time explaining basic economics and why City’s spending is bad for football, to somebody who probably struggles to open a bottle of bleach.
Simon saying so rubbish here and yet you can’t see it what a fool you must be
how would we know. its not like the caller is allowed to present his case
@@hotdog9262 the caller revealed his limited understanding with just a few words, ya silly sausage!
@@Synysterjmz 0:37 -1:25 if you read the regulation this little speech have little to do with why ffp was created. and he used that to shut the caller up
City is turning England into the Bundesliga.
History will judge this manc city era
Well done Simon!! Not the brightest caller to be fair!!
Imagine you set up a car manufacturing company in your local town. 1 year later someone else sets up another manufacturer for cars next door. This company pay all their staff twice the amount you pay yours. They end up making better cars, buy better materials, they pump so much into marketing that they flood tour company out of the industry and as a result, your car company goes bust.
City fans haven’t a clue
Man U fans queuing up to join them. Sad really. Is having the richest owners the only way to compete today?
@@bertiew6771 it’s called the cheat code blueprint. Sadly that’s where success has gone
Lol, somebody here clearly hasn't got a clue .... and it ISN'T the City fans!
Jim used the phrase ‘of that there is no doubt’ too much of that there is no doubt.
Liverpool organic ? 🤣🤣🤣 the same club that are owned by American owners who apparently no longer want to invest in their club anymore
And to answer this gentleman's question - CFG as a whole had operating losses of £200m in the year 21/22
Yeah, and man City will get the cheque book out and say how much to the Premier league to keep quiet, and it will swept under the carpet it's too late to take action as they've already winning the competitions it will take year's for it all to come out we might as let them keep doing it.
Agree
Yeah, that sounds like a great plan, let the criminals off scott free, and allow them to keep breaking the law, because...reasons
Yeah but they won't get punished that's the problem 🙄
City are 12th in the prem leauge spending table over the last t years
Solutions for eastern europe, small and poor countries that cannot compete:
Romania should buy a Bulgarian club and Bulgaria should buy a Romanian club. The obly thing that will save eastern football
Simon Jordan hates Man City. Not exactly an unbiased conversation.
it's totally naive to think that man city are the only club doing it. They're all shady, just like how almost every multi millionaire has an offshore account. Every club is going to stretch the rules if they think they can get away with it
Everyone's against us, blah blah, stick to the rules and see how you do then, you broke the rules knowing you can't compete if you did. Hope they take everything you've won away from you and watch you cry
In my opinion ffp was brought in to keep fifa champions league semi finals and finals globally sellable , profiteering plain and simple
Premier league bosses are so weak ,city have clearly broken the rules and continue to laugh in their faces just like psg do ,give Newcastle their due they aren’t doing the same yet and hopefully won’t in the future
The caller actually won this round. Lol
No he didn't Jesus some people are incredibly stupid 😂
No he didn't he phoned up sounding like he was gona cry coz je knows hos team have cheated
ha ha funniest comment ever on you tube you cheats
City will always be a state backed league 2 team on steroids
If they are proven they should drop down 2 divisions .
Can't help but feel like a lot of these fans could save themselves a few angry outbursts if they just did a bit of reading. The history of FFP and the various Deloite findings etc, are all public. As are the leaked emails and invoices from City...
UEFA/Establishment ban City
Show 0 proof in Court
Asterisk on - City,Establishment?🤔
The alternative isnt a wild west is it Simon and properly fair system isnt that hard to put in place.
City fans are deluded 😂
were not just this 1
U wish the whole world was against City like this right..Cry more 🤣
And as thick as 💩
Jealous 😅
Berties going be playing big local derby against stockport soon half the fans base don't know who they are 😂😂
Check out the academy Simon and respect all the employment they have created.
I don’t agree with the debt argument Simon made. It goes against the insolvency argument he makes.
If you keep loading the clubs with debt, you could end up with owners ditching a club and doing a runner and what FFP is trying to avoid. This is what is wrong around the debt argument and should also be considered.
This City fan is a clown 🤣
Ive not heard one city fan openly admit they have broken the rules and cheated. When i see one ill say fair play
That implies you have the broad range of skills necessary (!) to investigate, assess and judge the enormous intricacies of this case and have concluded city are guilty! If that’s true you must be the greatest lawyer this world has ever seen.
Mancini got a 2 millon bonus and they said he did a six week ciaching course .. funny how there sponsered by their own air way as well . Its cheating plain and simple they cook books to spend more money .they didnt need to
This guy doesn't know if he's Arthur or Martha, and doesn't have the courage of his convictions.
Simon can be a idiot sometimes... "what has debt got to do with it" he says but just before that he says FFP was brought in to stop clubs overspending and being liquidated!!!!! Well I think to be liquidated you have to be in "DEBT" up to your eyeballs!!!!...make your mind up Simon, is debt relevant or not??? 🤔
He's just talking for the sake of talking
Well u said he was an idiot “sometimes” when it’s more like 👍 “always” He just hates Middle Easterns more than UK hated EU n did Brexit‼️🙄
To be fair he did then explain debt against assets with the mortgage example.
Absolute waffler and these deluded fanboys in the chat its a joke at this point and only people from the outside see it 😂😂😂😂
@@Samivermusic.. Yes he did but he also said what's it got to do with debt?..... The whole point, according to uefa , for FFP is to prevent clubs overspending and going out of business!!!
Realistically it’s pointless even charging City. There’s no fine they can’t pay and if you relegate them to the championship they’re not going to need parachute payments and will likely bounce straight back up and be competing at the top again within 3 years. The horse has bolted. Could’ve stopped them 10 years ago but it’s pointless now.
why on earth would you take on Simon Jordan about these things.
There's nothing better than listening to a failed business man excreting his spleen at a successful business.. Love you Simon the City fan!
How’s he failed he will have far more money than you even now. You gave to be something to fail. If you nothing then your a loser
UEFA need to establish salary caps.
What are the negatives of city owner investing into his club?
For City? None! For all the other clubs who abided by the rules...many.
City have no debt, utd have 568 million of debt
Absolutely NO difference here then the ROMAN ABRAMOVICH ERA where Chelsea won it all its not just Newcastle & city Roman had zero fair play rules A SALLARY CAP like American sports is the only thing to end this in fact id love a Salary CAP
Atleast have something tangible if you want to take si on
Richard Masters felt sick, giving Man City the title
The alternatuve is everyone in each league is allowed to spemd the exact same amount. Otherwuse, its not competitive truly, is it? Kinda like who eins f1 generally is the team with the best carm
Poor Simon Jordan.
At what point is someone going to tell him everyone at talksport is laughing at him?
So in football terms nobody can deny City is a fantastic side its unqestionable.
However until these FFP charges are sorted out there will be a huge asterisk on everything they have won over the last 8+ years along with what they will win in the near future. The sooner they have been found innocent or guilty the better it will be for there club. For now though despite how good the team is its going to be tainted by the constant idea that City could potentially be guilty.
The fact City itself is not helping to expedite this matter and instead choosing to drag this case out for years indicates a great deal in my opinion.
What r u talkin about⁉️ have u read the title or even listened 2 what thy just said‼️🙄
city fan and would want tranfer ban only.
9 league titles dude and more to come
@martinifyify Yeah, but you cheated.
@@Oscarspoem Says you
This man with the glasses is a truly Man City hater .
If anything, Man City should he praised for spending Monday. The aim of elite sport is to win. It’s all well and good talking about fair competition, but most teams have no ambition to win. It’s all about buying and selling players, and getting champions league money. At least Man City try to win. Soo many losers in this chat I swear 😂
That's the e use it was brought in to protect the elite real utd Liverpool and arsenal
Tony learned nothing from this humiliation.
Simon wrong on this one.
So a club in poland takes needless risks because city pays Haaland £900k a week and make a loss but Barca were ok paying messi £300m over four years
Barca is not even comparable to city it is and always has been way bigger
@@ThomasMeyers-kw6dl I think you may have missed the pt
Can't knock a bit of Edam 😂
I’m not a City fan , so why should I want them to be successful ??