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Thank you Tony and Kieron. You are spot on everything you said. City need to be relegated. City are throwing their toys out of the pram 😂. City will be punished and relegated 🙏
So whey do they not have a salary cap then everyone will be equal transfer budget manure don't want that hypercrit
I've all ways said that man City have been bribing the football league were are they getting the money and being arrogant
They make their own rules
Its like Lance Armstrong challenging the anti doping rules🤣
They do not like the rules. spot on.
Arrogant entitled saudis. Never do anything wrong always have to be right. Wastes of space
City fans on social media: "We did not cheat! We did not cheat!" behind the scene: "We hope we don't get found out for cheatings"
@@edwintan11 but do you officially know that they cheated? I mean do you officially know not just from the media or what you hear every day? Do you officially know? i’ll answer that for you no you don’t and that my friend is a fact have you seen emails? Are you a lawyer? Probably not most of you are just lawyers on the in from wish there’s no point people saying that city fans are in denial we’re not in denial. We don’t know fuck all with what’s going on only what the media like to stir up and that’s all that you know you know the same as us fuck all, that’s a fact though mate isn’t it?
Will the real abu dhabi please stand up..........i believe these guys want a super league and dont give one jot about the premier league. True colours time now , sportswashing indeed , theyve taken boxing, theyve taken golf,, they want snooker and darts, now they want the biggest prize of all, football. This could end the premier league. We need to kick that dirty club out they are a total disgrace
Utter nonsense.. you are just saying how you WANT it to be.. not how it actually is.
@@gorrillion1cry harder lmao
That’s Saudi Arabia you muppet
@@Stegibbongorillion is right. . How would it destroy the pqdpdm😂
Im still buzzin seeing those blue noses behind the goal head in hands when garnacho scored 🔥🔥🔥🤣🤣 CHEATS
United2 City1
4 in a row 🤣
@@JulianButterworth-ff1ii 20 legitimate league titles and 3 CLs 🤣
supercup club world cup 4peek not bad revenue for those 207m man united fa cup revenue for than 2.3m lol
From its conception, City has a history of ignoring/breaking fair play rules. It's in their club's DNA. I hope this ends them.
In the early 1900s we poached a load of their players after they got done for match fixing as well 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🏆🏆🏆🏆
@@dannymactheatreoflife.1771 same old city. We'll have Haland and Bernardo Silva like we took Billy Meredith you cheats 😂
@@Stegibbon man utd Uefa ffp you cheats
@@gaultyok do you mean the premier league one where we made a mistake, owned up to it and paid the fine? Christ you city lot are dumb as dish water 😂
Completely agree boys. City's owners will try to tie the Premier League and the FA up in legal arguement with the threat of financial penalties for the governing body because false accounting is a criminal offence not just the breaking of football organisation rules, it breaking the law.
City is not accused of false accounting … what are u on ?
Let City and Newcastle play in a league on their own
The reports are that the team backing City was not Newcastle after all.
Let Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea play in a league of their own.
Newcastle were not one of the disgusting clubs trying to set up a super league.
@TPCDAZ your 2:09 the one who wanted to join the super league originally hypocrite
They can play themselves 16 times away n home
why you bothered you are 8th
Relegate. Strip them of all trophys won. Simple as
Expel them. There's such a provision under the rules.
The Premier League is a voluntary association. Members agree to be bound by the rules. City can disaffiliate any time they want (takes 3 years). It's not restraint of trade if you are part of the entity making the rules. It'll get laughed out of court.
@@rajaselvaraj761 maybe cuz the club that just won it four times in a row is saying their success is being impeded and they aren't able to spend. Lol
Lance Armstrong was stripped of all his medals !!!!
Love man Utd x ❤red army city are nothing like when they was at Maine road
At Maine road they were mostly crap..on ..and off the pitch!🤬👊👹
Man city needs closing down ! All cups confiscated .
Grow up and stop showing your jealousy.
@@gorrillion1Gtf ya team are cheating 🤬🤬🤬🤬s
Get back in your dark corner and keep quiet
@@gorrillion1no one is jealous of cheats when trophys are gained by underhand means they've been cheating since 2010 no fans around the world to fund the ffp where has all the money come from sponsorship and cash injections are not allowed under ffp.
@@andyhulme2274 Well you may or may not be jealous (you sound a bit like you are tho) and I don't really give a f*ck.. but the rest of what you've wrote just isn't true. Anyway, in the actual Premier League list of 'Highest spending teams over the last 5 seasons" City are seventh on the list.. which makes a mockery of all this "oh they're only successful cos of money" nonsense. (by the way, United are above City on that list.. meaning they have spent more.. so your argument is basically f*cked.
..Pep knows!.. thats why he's buggering off next year..
And De Bruyne now flirting with Saudi League.
Pep isn't the best manager in my eyes, i mean, he's good, but let's see how he would transform a team like Fulham, etc. He took over a great team in Barca, along with Bayern, another great team, and then went to cheating City with unlimited resources. Hope no one is comparing him to Sir Alex., 😒 #mufctillidie 👍🏾💯
Everton and forest took their punishment.......City can't get off.
Man City have just admitted to being guilty. RIP City
As a Liverpool fan I've never felt more UNITED with your mob 😂
That's because you're both part of the same cartel that didn't want us dining at the top table.
Both of you have been buying success for years CTID
@@AndyJohnson-k3h having a better history than you doesn't make us a cartel 😂 bore off
They have been kicking the can down the road for ages and only now chose to sue the Premier League over the APT rules, why now?... because they know this will impede the 115 case in November if they lose this one and they are more than ever aware whats coming in the form of punishment further down the line. Its the Premier League duty now to win and restore integrity in the League , because if the PL losses this, their credibility and reputation goes too.
Spelling not your strong point Louder is how it's spelt@rajaselvaraj761
@RandomVideosFirst you need to read about APT and when city started proceedings against the prem. It was feb 2024 after voting against the amendment to the APT rule with 5 other teams voting against the prem Stop being a band wagon commentor also it does not matter who wins APT it has no bearing on the 115 charges
No names were mentioned in the 115 charges apart from Pep, the "Club" as a whole are included in the charges, but hopefully Barada is not included.
you mean Omar Berrada chief football operations officer your hoping he is not included but pep is LMAO a whole lot are included people and companies
Rats fleeing the sinking ship
Imagine using your brother's company to sponsor your rented ground and overvaluing it by a factor of 10. Imagine raiding Arsenal's squad (and others) to build asset value (pre FFP) to use as 'cashflow'. Imagine luring quality managers that would not normally have even heard of City and us thinking nothing was untoward.
what what 1st sentence the only person or company who can overvalue anything that is rented is the owner. if you mean sponsorship cas says it was never proven by eufa that the deal was overvalued and city proved that it was not over valued if thats what you mean. imagine raiding teams like chelsea for matic, mata and madison raiding everton for lukaka or dortmound for sancho. imagine getting quality managers and killing their careers
There is no smoke without fire.They are guilty, they know it. They are using all means necessary to fight this as it threatens everything they have achieved and could achieve in the future.
Unfortunately though I 100% expect they will get away with it as they will have all the expensive lawyers on their side.
There is no smoke without fire uefa charged city. city was found not guilty due to uefa unable to prove the charges --------- I 100% expect they will get away with it as they will have all the expensive lawyers on their side. you really need to read up on what lawyers and barristers prem have they also have the finest KCs This has nothing to do with 115 and who ever wins this will have no bearing on the 115 what so ever. The 115 charges finished 2018 APT did not start until 2021 and city are arguing over the amendment made in 2024
I hope you’re right Tony and they are found guilty and given the fiercest punishment but unfortunately I can just see them getting away with it. Hope I’m wrong
Football has gone beyond being a game now! Been a United fan for over 35 years…European super league, Man City financial doping, young fans supporting players rather than clubs, VAR, the game becoming a non contact sport and many other reasons why I’m done watching this corrupt league.
@@languageoffootball I have let it go, don’t watch any of it anymore! The Game changed far too much! You can’t even celebrate a goal for a good 3 minutes.
@@languageoffootball the irony is, I can’t escape it, football is everywhere and everyone is an expert. I don’t look at anything to do with footy but I still get recommendations for videos. I do want Man City to get punished….but they wont
Who'd have thought a Emirati nation wouldnt like a democratic system!!
They love a bit of oppression.
City's bokkle is twitching this just shows how guilty they are of cheating and fiddling the books maybe they couldn't bribe their way out of this one like they did with Uefa / Fifa.
City V Buxton the local derby sounds good to me 😂
Might be the best attended City game in history. Who knows?
@@tenfour2215 84,569 v stoke
Citeh have got some brass balls trying to turn themselves into the hard done by victims !
I hope the PL turns around and says. If you don't like it, you don't have to play in the league. Or kick them out the league
Which will probably see the super league coming up again.
So City fans. The line has changed from 'we didn't cheat' to 'we cheated but the rules are unfair'.
Are you not embarrassed?
no where it says we cheated no where another band wagon commentor
Wanting to change the rule is also an admission of guilt, trying to move to goal post again!!
Great video thanks lads. CMONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN UNITEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.
No wonder KDB and Pep are on the run according to Fabrizio, the sink is sinking
pep last year of contract KDB might be going due to the amount of money saudi will offer him tax free
You cant just break the rules of the league and then sue the league afterwards because the rules exist. The future of football is at risk because of Citeh.. They know they are effed and want to save face..
It's a massive admission of guilt over the charges so now they want the laws out the way ...get them gone
give me the stuff you are on This has nothing to do with 115 and who ever wins this will have no bearing on the 115 what so ever. The 115 charges finished 2018 APT did not start until 2021 and city are arguing over the amendment made in 2024
why everybody wants them to get relagated to championship or league 2? imagine the damage they gonna do there. Those leagues should reject them as well. What play with haaland in league 2? this club should be gone from any professional football world for at least another 10-15 years.
this club should be gone from any professional football world for at least another 10-15 years. when have city been gone from any professional league never mind ANOTHER 10-15 years you have no clue about what you are writing jump of the band wagon
Pep is def leaving as son as he can, back to Spain he goes
I think yous all have a cheek.yous all wanted to break away to a super league.these rules where brought in to protect the big so called big 6 now newcastle/villa etc can spend yous dont like it.#NUFC
There is no way they are following FFP. The victory parade has so few fans. Real revenue comes from fans.
Citeh sponsored themselves lol
Love the "Pub" shout.........😀😀😀
Great insight into Man City 115 charges need go
Man city need to be deducted points
Too soft. A 3 man commission can recommend to the board that they be expelled from the league. That would then require a 3/4 vote of the members - 15 clubs - at a General Meeting.
Strip them of their titles and kick them out. Let them become the Harlem Globetrotters of football.
City’s owners saw that United and Pool have a global fan base and they wanted that too. Nothing wrong with that, but both those clubs built this over decades and decades. City wanted the quick route and not to take decades but a few years. They wanted to run before they could walk so suddenly they have these great sponsorship deals coming in. They somehow generate millions when they are still little league in comparison to Madrid, Barca, Pool and United. They will most likely get the largest fine ever in the PL which will be pocket change to them. Maybe to look as if they are really being punished they’ll also get a points deduction. Again possibly 10 and that will affect them for one season. Then it will be getting out the carpet sweeper. If any of the 115 are upheld the punishment should be in line with what happened to Forest and Everton x the number of charges plus additional punishment for them not acknowledging their guilt. On the other hand, the Teflon Blue Moaners will slither their way out of it once more. Shiny suited lawyers will be triple checking and searching for loopholes to work their magic once again. What’s really sad is the majority of their players have lit up the PL and whether we like it or not they have played some great football, but the legacy of the trophy wins will be forever tarnished.
Deduct points. They need to be demoted.
@@lawmantheonetrueking3739stay off the drugs kid
I am a QPR fan & even I am sick of City , pure arrogance. Great win in the cup lads I was of off of the sofa loved it 🛋️ 😂🙌🏻
Yeah you've just survived relegation in the championship 🤣🤣🤣 so relax and focus on your club
Void all trophies and banish to non league . With added restrictions on spending 👹
Man Cheaty are the ones who will crumble..last kicks of a dieing horse...they will loose trophies or get relegated
Ban city for life
"They're coming for City"- Love it guys! " Start to bail. " Manchester United coming for them too!
Maybe don’t moan about a thing you self created. Pl clubs want to be owned . Putting up the prices of players and stupid wages. Want. American and Arabic biljonair owners . Look at Man Utd. Most fans wanted Qatar. What you think happens if these American/ Arabic owners put out their money. PL will be one off the worst leagues in two years times. Their are the boss not the PL . You destroyed the football and yourself . It’s the clubs and the Pl to blame. Should try to make own money instead holding up your hands and let in these owners. Money talks. Just like you wanted it .
Remember also that in the background is the spectre of the 'Independent Football Regulator'. The Premier League cannot afford to display toothless incompetence here. They have to nail this for their own sake.
It will all end in tears. Money rules . It always corrupts everything . And it's got hold of our game.
If they don't like the prem, kick them out,who do they think they are, not happy with the rules that everyone agreed with, so let's change it to suit them so they can spend a billion more oil money and leave us all behind,we will end up like the Scottish prem, except it will be just the one team league instead of two
In the official premier league list of highest spending teams over the past 5 years, City are 6th.. behind Chelsea, Man United, Spurs, Newcastle and Arsenal. So City's success is not just because of money.. this is a massively important fact because it means that all this nonsense about City "buying" all their trophies is a load of crap.
They need to b suspended from Europe and relegated use them as an example no other team will fuk about n find out again
suspended from Europe and relegated use them as an example no other team will fuk about n find out again you have prove city are guilty so we should do that to utd for breaking ffp proven we should do that for liverpool hacking city scouting database proven do that for everton admitting they broke the rules
Was always going to come to this . Offence is the best Defense 🤷♂️ Then again it’s desperation. If they succeed, game over for PL 🇮🇪🤷♂️
Dirty City, Should be send down to the national league and stripped of all the trophies.
Spot on Tony! City are pathetic, with a typical small club mentality. Dummy thrown out of pram! lol! This is all their own fault with the dodgy dealings. The sooner they are relegated the better. They are trying to ruin the premier league.
😂😂😂😂 poor man cheaty shut up and face the music
Poor Liddle Siddy. Reminds me of the "Ginger Whinger" and his book "Spare"...or rather "WAAAAGGGGHHHHH !"
Win this and City will harp on about doing nothing wrong when they face the 115 charges. They're putting their foot in the door before they get to face the music. Cheating sods. Keep up the good work lads. Great channel.
It should be straight forward, but it all depends on the type of pressure that's put on the people who make the final decisions on these matters. If they get away with everything, then all the other clubs could decide to set up a separate top league that would accept promotions from the Championship.
What rules did Glasgow Rangers break when they got dropped to Scottish league two.Different league but a possible legal precedent
The premier league is not a fair competition for all anyway with the way the rules are, the so-called top six have had a monopoly on all rule changes over the last ten years as they all vote the same and stop any possible changes that the other 14 clubs want to make to try and compete. Now we have Man City who have reached their financial limit under the current rules they are trying to break out of the current set up and push clear to stop restrictions holding them back and they will go after the premier league. Prepare for war and court cases galore and the damage to English football will be catastrophic
It's likely to be as tedious as waiting for a VAR decision. Yawn. Stretch.
I'm sure UEFA will have a say on this, need to abide by UEFA rules to compete in Europe.... unless City's end goal is a superleague 🤔🤯😂
They should have been dealt with 5 years ago. I always feared once they won the CL it would be a losing battle
Enitlement taken to extremes, break the rules then try to get them changed retrospectively. If they don't like the prem they should take their ball and play somewhere else
The EPL should not co-operate and delay so its heard in 5 years. Sound familiar ?
Great show today thanks
Thankyou...you've explained and made things much clearer.
I too thought they were rattling sabres in fear of the coming FFP cases...but didn't know the details.
They have cheated this is just a smokescreen
Half the city fans get paid to go an watch 😂😂 to try an fill the stadium.
Easy fix, the leagues within UEFA need to all agree to a cost cap including salaries for the players. Players who do not play within the UEFA leagues should not be eligible to play internationals. Let’s see how long the players will last playing in Saudi or China when there is no World Cup or European football. The Americans and Japan tried to create breakaway leagues years ago and all failed.
Think your forgetting United have also been fined?
i dont know what you are trying to say UEFA is just for europe nothing to do with any country that is not in Europe or you trying to say european players should not play outside of europe bit discrimatory but ok so that means say united should not have onana amrabat martínez or say Garnacho playing for them as they are not european. world cup is not run by UEFA. saudi is not in europe so they can not play in european compititions but they can play in the world cup
The rules r the rules city. How u gona try and ruine the prem coz u gt caught money pumping oil money into ur little club.Relegate these 🤡s. What u done to ⚽️ is a Disgrace
I'm a Bluenose and it makes me sick that this team can come in with bags of money and buy buy buy. Tottenham's owners are getting stick because there not putting money on the pitch, instead there buying entertainment around the stadium which will flow back into the team. Help the community and the community will help you. Our new owners are looking into doing the same thing, as it keeps you away from FFP
They have so much money they will tie up the premier league in legal battles for years
Let them keep their money wherever they came from instead of destroying the lovely game of football. The FA should also remove the useless VAR from football due to inconsistencies during the year.
Total over reaction. All of the FFP rules result in the same 6 teams being able to outspend everyone else. Specifically, the rules city wish to challenge were brought in purely to slow investment into Newcastle United. The issue is that most of the other teams already have owner affiliated commercial deals in place and the problem arises when these deals need to be renewed. In the long run FFP will lead to certain teams having an unfair advantage which is mainly Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs. Removing FFP restraints will result in West Ham, Newcastle and Aston Villa being able to invest to grow. The rules simply arnt fair. Get rid of the lot of it.
Dope
You are a bit slow😂
The fact that you lot are contemplating City's possibility of winning this case is because you know that City has a valid point. it's the jealousy of the old guard fearing for their legacy. city will erase all of it with time.
City are already dominating they just want more😢
I mean let's get it right the Gallagher's are really reds
There you go cithe oasis by default.
Noel and Liam….Camden blues.
Yes but they still had the tallest floodlights in the football league
Historically over the passage of time, clubs have been allowed to spend whatever they wanted - Jack Walkers millions won Blackburn the PL etc etc and Utd have benefited massively from this as well. It's ony now under the current Glaser ownership were Utd can't compete. Its' a complicated situation. State ownership has ultimately ruined football.
Bs in regards to united
We will fight them on the training pitches, on the forecourts, in the super stores.We will never surrender,and if a team ever wins four premier leagues in a row they will say this was their finest hour.Never in the history of association football have so many owed so much to one owner.
Nobody likes them…..let them go play Saudi league
What if it is unlawful?
No point in football anymore when to teams have all the best players. Thanks to man city and reall Madrid football is dead. 115 F.C
I hope the relevant authorities have got all the evidence and proof that everyone on here has got.
Wait for sky to use this logic in next rights negotiations.
Premier league get market value for rights as per rights in other leagues. Clubs go bust
As a City fan I suggest that you base your judgement around what actually happened and not what the disingenuous leak from the Times (conveniently diverting everyone's attention from the controversy surrounding Liverpool's sponsors) suggests.
A proposed change to the rules regarding associated sponsorship was proposed in February. 12 voted in favour, 6 voted against and 2 abstained. City argued that that this particular proposal wasn't legal and a tribunal was set for June 10th. Therefore it's perfectly feasible for City to lose the case, but the proposal still not be ratified as it needs an overall majority of 14
@Chip-lw8lq Exactly the sort of ignorant immature reply I would expect from a 7 year old
@@neilshaw5404Cheaters and I'm 65
Your a Bertie get off the United fan channel
@@CharlesFitzgerald-pm5uk Mr Bertie to you and how can you call it a debate without somebody actually providing the facts?
@@neilshaw5404 Mr Bertie to me acting all Important, why dont you debate with your fellow blue noses and stay off United channels.Your obsessed with us the whole football world cant wait for what's coming to your crappy club
United weren't restricted!!!!
Why shouldn't we have best teams and players in Europe it's stupid to not let teams improve if they have finance to do it .man utd were always happy when they were winning everything and spending but now it's turned and other teams like Newcastle and villa got a chance to challenge them they don't like it ,it's you's and teams like you that's the problem not city .
It was ok when United dominated football it was also ok when United go into a billion pound worth of debt two faced that Webby fella hasn't got a clue
You have no clue😂
If city upset the premier league then the rest of clubs should sue them
Put em in the conference..non league...let em keep the trophies and titles cos they mean nothing
When Pep realizes that he will soon need to actually rebuild a team for the first time in his career, this is what happens.
Arsenal fan here. We have come 2nd to these cheaters last 2 seasons !!! Will we be awarded those titles when they are found guilty ??
The start of the super league
All clubs should come together agasint these lot cause they are ruining football
Break the rules and get relegated.
Super League was always better idea than STATE owned clubs inside the Prem