The Last Train to Stop at Sheffield Victoria Ever?
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- Опубликовано: 7 апр 2023
- In this video, we capture what could possibly be the final train to ever stop at the former Sheffield Victoria Station and travel on the Deepcar Branch at the Sheffield end of the remaining famous Woodhead Line which use to travel from Sheffield Victoria to Manchester London Road 'Now known as Manchester Piccadilly'
Unfortunately due to freight ceasing on this line at Stocksbridge Steelworks, it has made the line redundant for months and with no future plans to run trains on this line 'as of writing this' and with a lack of route knowledge and overgrowing trees, it leaves the line with an uncertain future. Which makes this tour possibly the last train to ever run on this line!
The tour that would run on the former Woodhead Line for possibly the last time was 'The Last Chance?' running from
Finsbury Park - Doncaster - Barnetby - Grimsby Light Railway - Barnetby - Gainsborough Central - Worksop - Deepcar Branch - Worksop - South Yorkshire Joint Line - Doncaster - Finsbury Park
Operated by Class 60 60015 & Class 66 66004 in 'I am a climate hero' green livery
Finsbury Park to Doncaster & back would be hauled by a Class 90.
We see the tour crossing over Wicker Archers at the former Sheffield Victoria Station where the crew of the Class 60 stop to take photos for what could be the last ever train to stop at the famous disused station, this being the first time in over 10 years that this famous shot has been achievable with the place being overgrown with trees but sadly could be the only time with the lines uncertain future.
We then travel further where we capture the Class 66 heading back towards Sheffield at Parkwood Springs as it gives tones on what could be the final time the line ever sees a train!
There are thankfully campaigns to use the line for a regular half hour shuttle train from Sheffield to Stocksbridge by the 'Don Valley Railway', fingers crossed these campaigns can be successful as it really would benefit Sheffield & the surrounding communities.
Trains operating on the Sheffield to Deepcar section of the Woodhead Line / Deepcar Branch:
1845 - 2023?
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I'm still convinced this line would be a viable commuter service and alternative route to Huddersfield, joining the line at Penistone, or even Barnsley/Leeds.
Indeed. It's not just about Sheffield city centre (integration of buses with the rail ticketing system would help) but also the northern and northwestern suburbs of Sheffield, and eastern Manchester!
In my view the case for reinstatement of the full line to Hadfield is extremely strong.
I completely agree, fingers crossed they see sense.
@@bwhugul The Woodhead Route has gone for good with the non-availability of the 'New' Tunnel (through which I travelled several times just before the line closed to passengers).
@@None-zc5vg I have to agree especially when they spend billions on railways in London. It would take a very powerful political movement to spend money on rail links in the north that don't have links to London or benefit London.
It certainly would make trains to Penistone & Huddersfield quicker and benefit so many communities.
Cameron
I was wondering why there were so many people on that bridge, I can see why now!
You couldn’t really see the former station from onboard the train either but it was one hell of an experience going to the middle of nowhere on the former Woodhead main line
Great catch!
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it! :) Must've been a brilliant tour to be on with it going on all those rare routes. It has be one of the best vantage points I've ever been to, shame it might be the only time it will be used after the overgrown trees were cut down. Fingers crossed the line can be used in the future 🤞
Cameron
This brings back good memories of living in the area. Such a shame that the lines is no longer in use. I hope the campaigns are successful, too.
Well done Cameron for documenting this event, it will go down in history....in time.
Thank you very much, David. It certainly will, it was very fitting for them to stop! Fingers crossed the line can be saved and run local shuttle services on it, it would definitely benefit Sheffield and the surrounding areas :)
Cameron
Marvellous to capture this train at Victoria. I just hope that this line never closes - they'll be sorry! Many thanks for this filming!
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it! :) Fingers crossed the line can be saved and used in the future 🤞
Cameron
I was on the train :) A most enjoyable and interesting trip including Immingham Docks, Deepcar and the South Yorkshire Joint Line via Maltby. Many thanks to UK Railtours for organising it.
What I see in this is a sadness. When I was young "me and my mates' would take a train to Sheffield Midland and then sometimes walk the huge distance to Sheffield Victoria. From there we travelled to Manchester Picadilly. Next stop Crewe..... Another time. But not for long.
Earlier as a child the family journeyed to Liverpool for a holiday. Taxi to the station, train to Victoria and on to Lime Street. What heady days they were for a 4 year old. the journeys to and fro were the highlight! Steam across the pennines and then later the EM1s; what a delight! Where did politics go so wrong? When did I become old?
When I see videos like this, they leave me with sadness too. I too am wondering where time has gone.
My first [and very likely last] time travelling on the line. It's still sinking in, what a missed opportunity this is.
I had a lump in my throat as we filmed some emotional thing to see, it’s hard to believe what they did to the line, a fully electrified line to Manchester from Sheffield…., today…., 😮
Thank you for sharing your wonderful memories with us all Phil! Fingers crossed the Sheffield to Deepcar section be saved 🤞
Cameron
yes behind a class 76 to guide bridge get all locos there on a saturday morning then off to crewe via stockport
So glad you captured this for posterity....will be very valuable in years to come. Was on the train at the time but to see it from this angle is special. This was the highlight of the day for me. Also nice of the crew to stop in the station for possibly the last time ever....very poignant. Travelled over the Woodhead Line on the last day of the Sheffield-Manchester Class 76 dc electrics on 3rd Jan 1970.....came up from Oxford especially and later the St Pancras-Manchester diversions of 1981 with Class 45s. Thanks for posting.....priceless🥰
Thank you very much, Geoff glad you enjoyed it. It certainly looked like a great tour, thank you for sharing your wonderful memories with us! :)
Cameron
Ah I happened to see this pass through Oakham this afternoon when I was stopped at the level crossing. Then this video popped up in my suggested section!! Perfect
Must've been a nice surprise to see it haha! Thanks for watching :)
Cameron
Nice to see a train stop there once again. My one and only visit was in 1968 after a trip from Manchester Piccadilly. Excellent video capture.
Thank you very much, Allan glad you enjoyed it. Wow, that must've been amazing to travel the line and visit Sheffield Victoria! :)
Cameron
Great vid. Really enjoyed that. Nice 5 minute skive at work. Thanks.
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it! :)
Cameron
Oh this is sad. I never knew freight trains on this line ceased. I saw a 66 going over wicker bridge at 9 pm one evening. Shame about that.
Closed? That's GOT to be reopened as a passenger railway!
I agree Rachel, it would really benefit the surrounding communities!
Cameron
This train was hauled north from London behing 90021. I saw it at Peterborough.
i remember class 76s and 77s going from there in late 1950s
Thank you very much for the upload it is really appreciated.
You're very welcome, Stephen glad you enjoyed it! :)
Cameron
Was on this tour, an amazing day out with UKR.
That has to be the longest non-sleeper passenger train to run on the network in decades.
13 carriages
Had an all.line rover in 1966. Hauled by E27003 to Piccadilly, but with film at a premium, no photos taken.
Stocksbridge would seem to be a good candidate for a sheffield tram extension, using similar stock to that running to Rotherham so it could run on heavy rail.The bus service to that end of town is very poor.
Imagine if there were some sort of "levelling up" project that could direct money into communites that need it. Someone ought to mention it to a government somewhere
It would never work
To much like common sense 😂
Do the moor it's easier or Extend the trams up to tram train line to Doncaster or Sheffield station
Thank you for sharing quite an event to record for history.
You’re very welcome, glad you enjoyed it! :)
Cameron
shame about the dis-use now, but would make a useful addition to the supertram system in Shef.......
Yes it would suit tram-train operation especially with the Ski Village and Fox Valley retail park at Stocksbridge. Could form part of Stocksbridge steelworks site regeneration.
@@danielsellers8707 yeah honestly they could do a short build into the main Sheffield station you just need electric wires when it turns off up to sheffield station also building the lower platforms
You managed to get me on it aswell, I was the guy with the Guinness cap. Let's hope the line can be saved 🤞
Hope you got a good shot, Darren it was certainly a great spectacle. Would be marvellous if the line can be saved! :)
Cameron
@@RailView_YT I managed to get 2 videos, one of the train coming to a halt at platform 5 with the crew taking photos and then the 2nd video was it setting off for Deepcar. I was hoping the Don Valley railway project would take over the line at some point, it would be great to have a heritage service using the line, I think we need the next generation to keep the nostalgia alive, rather than give them ipads and tablets to entertain them.
Sham this line should have never been closed it could have been convert to 25kv with out to much as the wire was very high (Liverpool street was converted to 6.25kv with out the wire or insulators being changed but it was lower voltage due to clearance ) and the could have extended it from Darnall to chesterfield and on to St Pancras. and Ashton moss junction one time 1500dc is now being electrified at 25kv irony .
I sore that travelling through Grimsby last Thursday.
Excellent video very moving. Have subscribed 😁
Thank you very much, Paul glad you enjoyed it and thanks for subscribing! :)
Cameron
Special 🌟 Thank you 👍
Thank you very much, David! :)
Cameron
That is a absolute epic view. 😎
I had a lump in my throat David, couldn’t believe it when they stopped on the platform and the crew jumped out to take photos, seriously emotional stuff, it beggars belief that they shut the line to Manchester down.
Has to be one of the best vantage points we've filmed at! Shame it might be the only time, fingers crossed the line can be saved 🤞
Cameron
Great shot 👍🏻 crackin vantage point 😁
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it! Has to be one of the best vantage points I've been to, especially now the overgrown trees have been chopped giving you the amazing view :)
Cameron
Been in Sheffield 5 years and didn’t know this was there lol
The line from wortley to Hadfield , penistone wath is now part of the transpennine trail and probably used by more people now than when it was a railway , that being said i can still see a possibility of passenger services returning to stocks bridge and deepcar wadsley bridge.
Well, that brings back memories. I worked at Deepcar station as a 17 year old in1954 and then went on to work in Milohouses Motive Power depot 19B I think
Very interesting, I didn't know there was anything left of Victoria... and how about that Mk2 Generator coach the rear?
Whish I had known about it would have loved to been able to travel along that old section of the gcr
Perhaps the former Woodhead Line should of still exist today. Network Rail are still continuing on improving railways in the North of England including electrification and I do think that they should electrify from Leeds to Sheffield. Leeds-Manchester Victoria, Leeds-York and Leeds-Hull. Lovely shot by the way.
Thanks very much, Andrew glad you enjoyed it! :)
Cameron
Quick! Preserve it! :D New Heritage railway!
The railways: how short-sighted we have been. They talk green but think and act mucky.
Nice Footage. The Railtour itself didn't go in Grimsby itself. It went on the freight only line from Ulceby Junction via Immingham then down the Immingham to Grimsby Light Railway and finally joining the mainline at Marsh Junction at Great Coates a mile outside Grimsby Town west bound.
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it!
Cameron
Thx for the footage; is this the Sheffield Victoria that was in that Walking Britain's Lost Railways programme a while back?
You're very welcome, glad you enjoyed it! :) That's right, I remember watching it. It was a great programme :)
Cameron
2:29 what were the chances of a bus in SYT 1980s livery, passing underneath Blue-grey MkII rolling stock, on The Wicker, in 2023?
What are the odds of that happening? What a coincidence that is! :)
Cameron
Fs in the comments for the Woodhead! Great video as usual mate 👌🏻
Why thank you Willis 👌
F
anyone notice the class 76 red tail lamp fitted to the class 60 when it was in the rear of the train?
No I hadn't until you pointed it out. A nice little touch!
I hadn't noticed that either David! How very fitting of them to do that :)
Cameron
Nice
Thank you very much! :)
Cameron
Nice video
Thank you Simon! :)
Cameron
Only passed Victoria once. A Sunday excursion back in the 70s, it travelled the Woodhead route. I remember the towering wall of flats above the retaining wall, and thinking even then I was glad not to live there. Am I right in thinking it used to be on the old Great Central?
Thanks for sharing your memories with us, Robert! That's right it used to be on the Great Central :)
Cameron
@@RailView_YT 👍👍
Just behind the station, before you reach the traffic island, a river runs through' a concrete channel.
I took you there once; I think it was after the Leadmill.
The water was dirty & smelt of industrialisation
Little mesters coughing their lungs up & globules the colour of tomato ketchup.
But it flows. Yeah, it flows.
Underneath the city through' dirty brickwork conduits
Connecting white witches on the Moor with pre-raphaelites down in Broomhall.
Beneath the old Trebor factory that burnt down in the early seventies.
Leaving an antiquated sweet-shop smell & caverns of nougat & caramel.
Nougat. Yeah, nougat & caramel.
And the river flows on.
Yeah, the river flows on beneath pudgy fifteen-year olds addicted to coffee whitener
And it finally comes above ground again at Forge Dam: the place where we first met.
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Cracking video when was this took
Saturday 8th April 2023..👍
Thank you very much! :)
Cameron
The Last Train to Sheffield. Wasn't that a TV series in the early 2000s?
Seems like Victoria was not a popular name for a railway station. Nottingham Victoria went the same way.
And Norwich Victoria- looked like 2 ex Anglia Railways mk2s behind the 60?
London and Manchester both have Victoria stations.
@@petes6814 yes, 2 ex-Anglia coaches ar the front.
@@neiloflongbeck5705 true, I forgot about those !
more because they were Great Central Stations, and were built in the tail years of Victoria's reign.
Great, Great Grandad’s railway…. He got very moody when he had to ride on a Midland Railway train instead.
Stupid idea ever closing that line, and now they deeply regret it.
"They" don't give a **** about the Woodhead Route, any more than they did about the other closed main lines
Is this line closing?
As of now, there's an uncertain future with Stocksbridge Steelworks ceasing freight operations. Fingers crossed the line can see future use 🤞
Cameron
@@RailView_YT Thanks Cameron, yes fingers crossed. I did hear that there were plans for a passenger service to Stocksbridge. I miss the Woodhead route 😢
A third tramline, if they can't make it a viable commuter line again.
A gaggle of trainspotters.
Can't they just rebuild and refurbish the station please just redo the Woodhead line