Which mid-drive Bafang motor to buy? (BBS01, BBS02, BBSHD)

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • I discuss the pros and cons with the different bafang motor mid-drives (bbs01, bbs02 and bbshd) to help you choose the right motor to buy!
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Комментарии • 84

  • @ShareHobby
    @ShareHobby 3 месяца назад +6

    I run a BBS02 500 watt mid drive with dual 36v 20AHr batteries. It has a maximum wattage rating of 750 watts, but have regularly seen 850 watt display readings. It’s mounted on a 29” dual suspension, 34t Shimano freewheel. I live in the US in an Appalachian Mountain state, so there are many hills. Bike is mostly used on street and rail-trails. It’s fun with dual battery DateX2 combiner setup. Really helps with lessen voltage sag on hills and in headwinds. I ride about 30-40 miles daily. I have to give minimum assistance when climbing most hills in PAS 4. It’s fun. I know I said that. But it really is all I feel the need for at the moment.🙂

  • @troybrouillard5266
    @troybrouillard5266 8 месяцев назад +11

    I've been putting BBS02's on DH mountain bikes since 2015 to build as trail bikes. I've found 750W to be sufficient. I typically run a 36t "narrow-wide" chain ring w/ 10spd cassette and Shimano clutch derailleur. I definitely recommend Bafang products. Mid-drive is where it's at for bikes with rear suspension. I wouldn't put the weight of a hub motor on a "swingarm" but Bafang hub motors are great too. 👌

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  7 месяцев назад

      yeah 750w is mega powerful too

  • @nicod974
    @nicod974 8 месяцев назад +3

    Definetly will build a bbshd on my next full suspension bike, geared hub, on a 52v system.

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  7 месяцев назад

      sounds very nice!!!

    • @dragnar12
      @dragnar12 6 месяцев назад

      Ull love it i used it for like 3-4 years now.
      But its limited to 27 km/h
      I love it

  • @azdec
    @azdec 7 месяцев назад +7

    Blablabla... my bbs02b works perfectly with a Samsung 1040wAh 52v 20A battery pack ! Controller is compatible but you must choose the right display 52v compatible.

  • @JoLe1991
    @JoLe1991 5 месяцев назад +2

    definitely the new torque sensing M435 possibly the M635.
    tuning requires the BESST tool though, but boy are these motors a game changer once the torque sensor is properly tuned

  • @michaelsprinzeles4022
    @michaelsprinzeles4022 6 месяцев назад +4

    My 02 is running on 52 volts, out of the box.
    My HD also runs on 52 volts but with an aftermarket controller runs 50 amps (more about towing torque than top speed). I don't get bothered because I don't ride it like a goon. If you're not behaving like an idiot the police have more important concerns.
    My motors have similar cabling.

  • @magzire
    @magzire 6 месяцев назад +5

    im using a 52v with a BBS02, and its more powerful than 48v

    • @SpicyMushroom469
      @SpicyMushroom469 20 дней назад

      48v does me. i worry about 52v getting too hot and damaging the controller/motor. 48v already get very hot at the end of a ride

    • @magzire
      @magzire 19 дней назад

      @@SpicyMushroom469 you can control the power via the usb tool. its actually a must to lower it! feels way more natural and saves components

  • @michaelfasher
    @michaelfasher 8 месяцев назад +6

    My advice is to get the smallest motor the 300 Watt motor with the biggest battery. Less wear on a bikes drive train. I commute thirty foor miles a day on a Giant Quick E with a 250 Watt motor. I can cruise along at 41 to 43 kilometres per hour. You drain battery cycles less as well.

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  7 месяцев назад

      depends on how much oomf you want :)))

    • @solarwind907
      @solarwind907 6 месяцев назад

      Makes sense. I like to pedal too.

  • @joehiatt1992
    @joehiatt1992 10 месяцев назад +9

    The bbs02 info says its not 52v compatible BUT all the guys who work on them say it is,ie johnnynerdout

    • @Hadroncollider_
      @Hadroncollider_ 9 месяцев назад +2

      It's not officialy compatible but works. Voltage limit of internal capacitors is 60V.

    • @garyhoward4064
      @garyhoward4064 9 месяцев назад

      @@Hadroncollider_Ive got one and works fine

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  7 месяцев назад

      Isnt it possible to buy certain versions from aliexpress that are 52v?? But isnt it not official?

  • @Bobster986
    @Bobster986 5 месяцев назад +1

    You are obviously a Bafang motor fan, but what are your thoughts on the Anando motors? Thanks 😊

  • @Goonerson1969
    @Goonerson1969 Месяц назад

    Can l still use my existing crank arms ? as l want keep them, they are Hope and very beautiful

  • @lee-tx5mw
    @lee-tx5mw 7 месяцев назад

    thanks for the info my daughter has the bbs 01 with 48v battery on her bike and she loves it .i have a full suspension with a bbshd ill be finishi g very soon .i think it will be the right bike for me .i have a 1500w hub kit on a voodoo canzo ,which is pretty fast on the flat (40mph)but lacks a little uphill .a stealth bomber clone that is 72v 80 smp and is a bit heavy and faster than needed ,also attracts too much attention. and a 72v 60 amp hub motor setup on a specialised hardtail which im building atm too .bad idea i think its going to be rediculous .

  • @EdWilsonPhoto
    @EdWilsonPhoto 5 месяцев назад

    I'm a big heavy guy who has a big heavy dual susp. bike. It took about 30 seconds for me to spec the HD with a big batt. Torque sensing is a nice luxury, but not essential.

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  3 месяца назад

      yeah true, depends a lot on how you want the riding experience to feel, some people even prefer cadence sensors.

  • @LukeAMcDowell
    @LukeAMcDowell 9 месяцев назад +28

    I live in the US. My son is a cop. The police here will never mess with you on an ebike unless you are causing problems.

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  7 месяцев назад +3

      hahaha xDDD

    • @brianbassett4379
      @brianbassett4379 7 месяцев назад +3

      That is total nonsense.

    • @lee-tx5mw
      @lee-tx5mw 7 месяцев назад +2

      different for different areas .im in the uk and i ride pretty fast 40mph on my 1500w kit at 52v 26 amps .but ibarely ride my stealth bomber 5000w as its asking for hassle .it seems some bikes like stealth bombers and surrons etc are targeted .because the riders are usually pulling wheelies and ride like nutcases .like you said .

    • @legalalien2923
      @legalalien2923 6 месяцев назад +3

      Driving while black is a myth then?

    • @WillKruger-xw8nd
      @WillKruger-xw8nd 6 месяцев назад

      yes@@legalalien2923

  • @ohsweetmystery
    @ohsweetmystery 2 месяца назад

    What bike do you have that has an internal gear box? I would like to get an internally geared bike and convert it to an ebike.

  • @dae3xt
    @dae3xt 3 месяца назад +1

    I can't wait to get the bbshd with the biggest battery. i will make a commuter .

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  3 месяца назад +1

      nice! what battery size?

    • @dae3xt
      @dae3xt 3 месяца назад

      @@voltvehicles I ended up getting this battery: Battery - 48V 20.3 Ah Whale Shark Ebike Battery (2900 18650 Cells). I know there is bigger but the built up bike is pretty powerful now.

  • @olegpetelevitch4443
    @olegpetelevitch4443 6 месяцев назад

    BBSHD 1400 watt ! if you want torque power speed ! Mine does 61 clicks 48 volt running 54.6 battery and a 58.8 battery ! 30 amp controller 8 speed ! throttle and pedal sensor dual suspension ! MID DRIVE ONLY ! Thank you ! BBSHD all day !
    Australia allowed ! 48 volt running with 54.6 and 52v ,58.8 battery straight on no problems ! The others are pissy slow and not strong ! New one cant program ! Bought 2 old ones the best for diy use and POWER SPEED ! Lekie all ! Its messy if you have 2 left hands ! Or you can't do the job ! In that case shop and get ripped off ! Thank you !

  • @SD_Alias
    @SD_Alias 24 дня назад

    A BBSHD with reduced wattage about 250-300W and street legal 25 Km/h should last longest of the 3 right?

    • @SpicyMushroom469
      @SpicyMushroom469 20 дней назад

      i would think so. Limiting is no fun though. i have 750w bbs02 with 6400 miles on it over the last 14 months. i ride 12 miles each way to work every day at max assist (30+mph and its still going strong)

  • @samiajre6852
    @samiajre6852 8 месяцев назад +1

    thank you
    because that what i search on youtube : Best bafang 250 KIT

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  7 месяцев назад

      yeah 250w 48v bbs01 is really good for 250w

  • @britishnomad
    @britishnomad 8 месяцев назад +2

    Bbshd rocks man 🤙

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  7 месяцев назад

      BBSHD!!! NOW SOON TONGSHENG TSDZ2ABCD

    • @cilami
      @cilami 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@voltvehiclesIs that true?😮

  • @marcellocapone4925
    @marcellocapone4925 10 месяцев назад +2

    Do Bafang motors really affect the right side crank (chainring side) by leaving it one inch farther once the motor is installed?
    I saw a review of a welder who fitted the 750w kit, and that's what he said. It was giving him hip pain when riding the bike since the crank on the right side was too far to the right.

    • @LukeAMcDowell
      @LukeAMcDowell 9 месяцев назад

      It comes with spacers. Your friend should have used the spacers to align his chainring and avoid the hip pain.
      My bbshd was ordered specifically for my bottom bracket size and it is centered well with no spacers.

    • @bjnslc
      @bjnslc 8 месяцев назад +2

      It's the reason so many conversions use Leki chainrings and asymmetric crank arms.

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  7 месяцев назад

      hmm, for a bottom bracket of 68mm and 72mm I have never had issues, but as Luke says, spacers could be required with big bottom bracket sizes

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  7 месяцев назад

      leki is too overpriced bro XD

    • @Sheisintomalakasdino
      @Sheisintomalakasdino 5 месяцев назад +2

      Bosch Motors swell up my knees, never had any problem in my life ... installed a bafang, Knee problems completely gone.

  • @emigrant4life
    @emigrant4life 3 месяца назад

    BBS01 - the best choice for daily city driving (+ legal in every country)

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  3 месяца назад

      yeah its an awesome motor :)

  • @Billybritt-s4t
    @Billybritt-s4t 8 месяцев назад +1

    Bbshd 1to1 works great

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  7 месяцев назад

      yeah that thing is a beast, do you mean with single speed?

    • @marceldagenais1893
      @marceldagenais1893 5 месяцев назад

      Got mine set up on a single free wheel get about 41 mph running 30 amps across the board

  • @jakobkljun4684
    @jakobkljun4684 7 месяцев назад

    Why is it so difficult to get the prices of these motors?!

  • @mineralisk
    @mineralisk 5 месяцев назад

    None of these are torque-sensing, are they?

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  3 месяца назад +1

      no, all are cadence sensing (like on-off switch)

    • @mineralisk
      @mineralisk 3 месяца назад

      @@voltvehicles thank you

  • @nicknelson9450
    @nicknelson9450 11 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting, do I detect a Southeast Asian accent tinted with a bit of Welsh?

    • @MetalFan10101
      @MetalFan10101 9 месяцев назад +3

      No

    • @nicknelson9450
      @nicknelson9450 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@MetalFan10101 Ok, thanks for the thought-provoking interaction.

    • @nicknelson9450
      @nicknelson9450 9 месяцев назад

      @@MetalFan10101 and jagshemash.

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  7 месяцев назад

      ???????????? You need hearing lessons

    • @nicknelson9450
      @nicknelson9450 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@voltvehicles Ok, I guess that's a no...thank you for your constructive and respectful interaction as well. Just thought your speech patterns sounded interesting and took a guess.

  • @stavman8536
    @stavman8536 4 месяца назад

    The Bafang rear hub 750 so you can easily do service by your self !!!

  • @kayssdavlatov8519
    @kayssdavlatov8519 6 месяцев назад

    Здравствуйте скажите пожалуйста кто нибудь знает про хороший смазку для мотот BBS hd ,

  • @B12-jr5yp
    @B12-jr5yp 4 месяца назад

    You play eve???

  • @tjts1
    @tjts1 10 месяцев назад +6

    Nobody in the US knows or gives a fuck how many watts your ebike motor is.

    • @voltvehicles
      @voltvehicles  7 месяцев назад

      Really? Thats very cool, I might move there LOLOLOL

    • @marceldagenais1893
      @marceldagenais1893 5 месяцев назад

      Some bodies had a bad day ,sounds like they got watt restrictions in America!

    • @AdamSmith-fe9jf
      @AdamSmith-fe9jf 4 месяца назад

      How come you only have 1tits? What happened to the other one?