Is 4K UHD Going To Be Okay?
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- Опубликовано: 19 фев 2024
- Is 4K UHD Dying?! Is the format going the way of the Dodo? The short answer is no. The long answer is in this video, so check it out to find out all about why 4K UHD is going to be fine in the long run.
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Great video man! Very refreshing, and absolutely on-point. Whenever I hear someone claim 4K is a dying format, I just SMH, because I believe the opposite is true. I just watched another RUclipsr cherry-pick the last week's MediaPlayNews 4K market share data (just over 7%), and use it to paint a grim picture -- while completely ignoring the second half of last year and all the other metrics indicating 4K is actually a growing format (and that physical media is still very much alive and well). 4K sales always take a dip at the beginning of the year... presumably because 4K is a little more expensive, and many people are often tapped out after the holidays. But I have no doubt we're going to see those weekly numbers go back up once, say, the James Cameron films are released next month, for example. Whenever we see big titles coming out on 4K that a lot of people want, we see 4K sales going up.
I think where people get hung up sometimes is they think in terms of mainstream appeal, rather than niche. So they see all these indicators showing physical media is changing and no longer as mainstream as it once was, and they think that means the same thing as dying or "in decline." Kind of drives me nuts, honestly Lol! Niche markets can thrive... and in fact, are thriving right now with physical media. We've had an explosion of hundreds of boutique labels in recent years, and the 4K format just had its best year ever, in terms of growth (number of releases) and sales. Anyway, I enjoy your content... keep up the great work man.
Thank you for the kind words! I can always compare it to vinyl. More bands make vinyl special editions of their albums these days than ever before, 4K can be the same thing or similar to that, or even all kinds of physical media in general. But the clickbait artists love to paint that dying picture, so we've gotta push back so people know what's really going on!
Would be great for the disc market if they sell players standard region free and that you can put your extern subtitles in via a stick so you can watch movies and series that are not produced with your language on the discs. Their are some players, but expensive.
4K has been blowing up the last few months.
Let’s hope it keeps going!
It's way more expensive in a lot of the time it's not worth it. The differences are subtle on a lot of movies. What song is absolutely stunning and worth the money that's why I pick and choose what movies I get in 4k
@McH0rror because like I said before a lot of movies are not worth the upgrade. A lot of TVs nowadays are all 4K.
I’m a big 4K and Blu-Ray collector (over 2K movies and TV shows). I have a dedicated theater room with a high end 4K JVC projector and 11.6.2 Atmos system. For me I only buy new movies on 4K and select catalog titles. Blu-Ray looks very good upscaled even on my 130” screen from 10’ away. You can also upmix audio for full overhead/height speakers. It’s just hard for me to spend $20-30 on a catalog UHD I already own in Blu-Ray. I’m very selective. The difference between Blu-Ray and 4K UHD IMHO, is not as big as the jump from DVD and Blu-Ray (most of the time). If UHD catalog titles were $5-10 I’d buy more for sure. Or if studios offered a trade-in program.
4K isn’t going anywhere. Profit is profit, and where there is someone willing to pay money for something there will always be a seller.
Vinyl is still going, resurgence or not, there will always be a select niche willing to pay for their hobbies.
Exactly.
I know this is a when you think about it kind of thing but when you think about it both streaming and 4k blu rays have financial advantages over each other just in there own ways like the reason why a lot of people say streaming is cheaper is because you get an abundance of entertainment for the same price as each individual disc but at the same time the reason why 4k discs are cheaper is a ounce you have it’s yours kind of thing, and the part that you don’t have to pay monthly to watch it and to pay for high speed internet.
7:31 Discs sales will only go down in the next years,i don't see a future for the 4K disc format,that doesn't mean its dead,but it will be fased out in a few years from now ,i think dvd wil be the last man standing because of how many there are sold already.Also the younger people don't care about discs,they are not going to switch to movies on physical media in the future.Just my view of things.btw i like physical media ,i collect movies and tv shows on blu-ray and dvd.I buy mostly used at this point,otherwise a blow true my budget in a short time,that almost excludes 4K discs for me.Love your videos🇧🇪
Thanks for the kind words! If it goes like vinyl, people will see the way to wanting physical copies of things.
Doubt movie fans agree with you on your comment.
@@Frostbite351 I understand,i only look at the numbers,what is your view?
@vanstraelend well the next xbox and playstation will be disc based. Warner and paramount still releasing back catalogue till 2035 and sony taking over Disney physical media department so I see an interesting future.
My 4k collection consists of 4k movies sold in 2 packs with standard Bluray disc's. I have yet to purchase a 4k player.
I use my PS5 and it’s great. I probably would’ve stuck to Blu-ray if the PS5 didn’t play 4K discs
I'm pretty much satisfied with HD blu-ray. When we went from SD to HD, the difference was pretty dramatic, but when I go into a store and see all the 4K TV's (really UHD; 4K is a cinema format), sure it looks nice, but not THAT much nicer than HD, to my eyes. It took a lot of time and money to build my HD blu-ray collection (after spending on the same content in VHS and DVD), so I'm stopping there. I'm satisfied.
I can get that, some movies look better than others in 4K, but it's all personal preference at the end of the day.
I primarily focus on 4K but I have a 4K laser projector with a 7.2.4 sound system. I’ll buy Blu if a title I want has a little chance of getting a 4K but I avoid the double dipping by the boutique labels but even some of the majors like Universal are doing it now.
Makes sense, I try not to double dip also.
Most movies these days are NOT released in 4K- they are actually only 2K.
This trend has been changing though. Last year most of the higher profile movies released by boutique labels were native 4k DI on a 100 GB disc. Basically the most uncompressed way you can watch the film.
I myself have been collecting movies for years now. Started on dvds then blu rays and now own alot of 4ks. And tbh there is alot of diffrence in the 4ks but depends on the player and tv supose. I learned this from owning few 4k players over the years but there was a defo boost in picture quality when got my panasonic 820 and 9000. And they upscale blu rays brilliantly also. So much so i got my 820 chipped to play any region blu rays mainly usa ones. Best money i ever spent.
The upscaling is the best part for me.
The price point on the disc player is a big contrast (and problem), you can get bluray players very cheaply and easily, but 4K UHD players are anywhere from 200 to 600 each (features depending.)
I found a working 4k player at a thrift store for $7.
@@washere3955 Lucky, but if you look them up online from say Amazon the first result is $189, all the way up to a little under $1100 for a fully featured 4K UHD player. People interested in the 4K UHD format will see those player prices and be like 'Alright, I'm out.'
DVD sales is still going strong thanks to Ultra HD upscale dvd to 4k. My dvd collection looks beautiful on Panasonic ub420 I'm starting buying dvd again because my Panasonic UB420 Ultra HD can upscale dvd to 4k resolution it gives new upgrade.
I starting buying 4k dvd before i had a 4k player. Price has sky rocket after the Hollwood strikes. Rambo movies and star trek under 10 $ with blu-rays. Those days are gone.
Personally, I love the looks of 4k. However, I have a Sony X700. Out of around 80 4k titles, I have had issues with about a dozen. I can't justify spending $400+ for a better player. Because of this, I now will only get 4ks if it includes a blu-ray.
Issues?
@@dxsloparrSony players have difficulty playing the 100gb triple layer 4K discs sometimes they freeze and you have to unplug the Player and reboot it to get it to actually play the damn disc
I love my Panasonic 820
Yes, too expensive and for many people (average consumer) probably little difference in quality between bluray / 4K. I like the 4K for the additional bonus material so it is something I will get for my 'super' favourite films. Also, if you have the blu ray, it requires an additional purchase. Also requires the purchase of a 4K player (I went for a basic one and it was not that cheap). As you say, probably going to be a niche. Must be a risk for companies to bring out a 4K, a blu-ray / DVD is probably going to be a more valid option. I really hope the format does continue though
Yeah people don’t flinch at spending $700+ on a smart phone but same people think $200+ for a 4K player is outrageous. These people don’t realize VCRs were $400 in early to mid-80s and that’s in 1980s dollars. A $200-400 player in today’s dollars is a bargain.
Also another point, most collectors of movies have already bought their favorite movies on dvd or blu ray. So to upgrade all your movies in your collection to 4k would cost a fortune. Not worth it in my opinion. If its a movie I don't already own on blu ray and i love the movie, then sure i'll wait for a sale on the 4k
I'm a blu ray collector, I've bought about 10 4k movies and i really can't spot a major difference between the two. So why would i spend way more money for the movie for a very minor upgrade. In my opinion the upgrade from dvd to blu ray was night and day.
I can't justify the price on some of the new 4k releases. Especially the older movies when I can pick up a used blu ray for $3 or $4. Sub $20 for a 4k UHD + Blu ray I'll buy it. The other problem I have with 4k is you just don't know what you're going to get on older movies. Is it going to be a direct transfer of the blu ray? Is it going to be so touched up so much it doesn't even reflect the original video? To be honest I'm even fine with some of the older videos on DVD because that is how I remember them. Blu ray is just always a "safe" option when picking something up.
Very true, especially on the Blu-ray part.
I'm not a big supporter of 4k not to say I dont own or like them. They are too expensive and the quality just really isn't that big of a difference from 1080p.
That's how it is for most people, it really depends on the release for me, if the 4K is worth spending up for.
4ks are too expensive and suffer from a wide variation in quality. If they cut the price 25-40 percent they might succeed. If not they will remain a fringe market.
Not a failed format! Just 29 $ 39$ for a movie is not for everyone
The price is definitely the barrier to entry for most people.
What retailer actually still sells new DVD's I still see Blu-Ray and yes 4K. With Best Buy and Target (for the most part) pulling out of all physical media sales in the movie category collecting has become more challenging but not dead. Streaming is not the answer for several reasons main being you don't own the movie, so collectors relax physical media is not going to disappear. I collect 4K and Blu-ray and I find that 4K excels with the older films like the Maltese Falcon you showed but for the most part the differences are negligible for most newer movies or in the case of Marvel extravaganzas 4K can accentuate the flaws in the CGI which makes Blu-Ray just fine.
My local Asda still sells new Dvds but no longer Stocks Blu Ray or 4K discs and even online Dvd still sells more than Blu Ray or 4K does
@@markpugh6808 Strange out in my neck of the woods Blu-ray outsells DVD by a country most places don't sell DVDs at all
I think 4K would sell better if they put more interesting titles on the format. There is already only a small number of total 4K titles. 90% of those are of absolute no interest to me.
I have a nice set up the best I can afford and I have a dedicated 4k player because they are better than a PS 5 or X box. I can't afford all McIntosh. Still I try to buy all 4k movies unless it's not that great of a movie or I heard the 4k was translated incorrectly. Like Weird Science ‼️🤬🤬
I just bought the Bionic Woman tv set on Amazon new for 15 dollars. Blu ray is currently 106 dollars. Well, dvd is good enough for me.
I make exceptions when the price is comperable or actually cheaperfor blu ray. I got the 66 Batman series in blu ray for that reason.
I do that to, first looking for 4K if the price is reasonable, then blu ray if the price for 4K is to expensive or not available in my subtitle language, and even if it’s not affordable on blu ray + subtitles a go as last resort to DVD.
As you should, if you don't care about the visual fidelity as much or extras or whatnot, go cheaper.
I collect 4K I have a dedicated 4K player set up in my spare room with a good 75 in TV and a nice Bose sound setup I love it however not everyone is me so for my girlfriend and the people who come over we got an 98 in Samsung and PS5 so I mean equal trade off
Sounds like a nice balance to me!
It’s because they screwed everyone out of 3D and decided to shove 4K down our throats. I would far rather have 3D but why not let everyone have everything?
3D is just a gimmick that goes in and out of fashion every few decades
3D has been tried in the 1950's, 1980's, and more recently, and every time, it has always been a passing fad. It's clear not everyone wants 3D, at least for narrative dramatic content. It's better suited for niche applications like theme park rides, etc.
@@ebinrock it’s honestly to bad that most people never got to see Oled 3D. I’m telling you it was seriously good. We have all the best processing and brightness nits coming out of our asses. Why take any features away from customers? When you pay your money you should get everything we have