@@ccrider3435 you can replay the video as many as you can to learn that 1 car space is enough and the outside zone is the fkin run off and wall, but the contact they made were unexpected by both of them
Sky Sport : Russel DID carry to much speed into Turn 2 and caused the collition. Russell : I don't understand....i was ahead at the apex.... Max : Your front tyre hit the middle of my car so how could you be ahead ?? Damon Hill : No no no...that was Hamilton's corner clearly.....ruuuuuulleee britania !!!!
For those of old enough to remember Senna .. this is all pretty lightweight stuff. Some contact, some heated words, but pretty benign if you remember the Prost v Senna moments. Verstappen is brilliant, and Russell gives no quarter. I think Russell’s hard-nosed approach may result in a few similar events with Hamilton later this year as he will not yield.
So basically, to sum up: "George did lock up, and caused the contact, but should Max have been a racing driver and kept in the fight in the first place?" SMMFH. Had it been the other way around, Max would've been strung up by the commentators. The bias is clear.
Max has the quickest car in a straight line here. Mercedes has one of the slowest. George was wrong on this collision, but Max should have picked his fights more carefully. Let George go, easily overtake him on the straight, then easily overtake Charles.
@@JakeM218 That is some wise approach. However, I am pretty sure that drivers are well aware of that and much more but the ADRENALIN doesn't care about that I guess :)
@@JakeM218 This argument is absurd because even if he wanted to, Max could not just "let George go". If he lets Geroge go he also has to let Carlos go, and then right behind is Alonso as well. There was just no room, their only option was to stay on their lines, leaving enough space for each other and hope nothing happens.
I think it’s quite obvious that Russell is more at fault than Verstappen here, I don’t think that this is the problem for “fanboys”.. What makes us upset is that for a little bit of under steering that causes a small racing incident that you know you can always be part of in every start of a race (especially if you drive on the outside), verstappen got upset like someone tried to kill him, he was very disrespectful
@@TheZambo89 "What makes us upset is that for a little bit of under steering that causes a small racing incident " like Hamilton pushes Max off into hospital?
Racing incident, I find it funny that both Russel, David and Naomi is saying that Max is attacking into the second corner even though he is obviously ahead. Turn 3 was worse imo.
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It's weird for him to attack when he could easily have slot in behind and easily pass him with DRS. I'm pretty sure that's what they were referring to.
@ Well that argument doesnt really work for them since Russell knows Max has a much faster car and Russell will just get overtaken again, its not really possible for them to twist this one into being on Max. Max since 2022 is racing less agressive and very fair imo and they still pick on his racing very hard, i think thats kinda unfair imo
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@@emilandersson4001 He was because he kept on power instead of slotting in behind. That is literally going on the offensive into turn 3.
@ so you are in front on the outside and then you decide to slot behind? How does that even work? Sainz would have overtaken him if not more drivers if he would have done that for no reason.
Max took no risk, because he made the corner and was able to leave space. How is that taking a risk? He can't fortune tell Russell would lock up. If you race with the mind your opponent might lock up, you might as well hang up the gloves.
but in a race, you always gotta take other things at risk. You can't expect everyone to do the exact thing that you thought, is like in trasit, you gotta use common sense too, be aware of your surroundings and prevent things like this in the video, George tried his best and max even though he had more space he insist not using it
@hani santa, if you compare turn 1,2,3 with turn 4, Russell at least attempts to leave space for max. Come turn 4, max goes all the way to the wall, cutting Carlos off. Same is true for lap six turn 1 with Russell. In each of these situations the drivers are side by side. The only difference is how the outside drivers concede, or not in Max’s case. He knew exactly what risk he was taking.
Damon Hill, what a pathetic questions and insinuations that guy always has when it comes to max is unbelievable. He doesn’t even try to hide his hatred and biased view, and it is not like he is the sharpest tool in the shed either. I also get the impression that his fellow presenters don’t take him very seriously.
Hill gets taken the piss off loads of times by fellow commentators and in podcasts. He's only at sky still to get those brit clicks and some hate clicks. He's not good for anything else. (He does say some sensible things sometimes on the F1 Nation podcast ... but not enough to warrant his presence. Should give his spot to one of the excellent content creators out there atm)
But he wasn’t in front though… he was marginally ahead… but in front? Impossible. If he was in front it would be physically impossible for George to side swipe him. It was George’s corner… and Max knew it
Clear bias. Imagine trying to blame Max for this when he kept enough space at all times. Not to mention they missed the contact at turn 3 when he got pushed into the wall again and almost lost position to sainz cause of it.
@@everydaydose7779 Oh come on. Damage aside, it was pretty light contact caused by a tiny lockup. They both had a right to be there, it's a tight corner, shit happens
@@forsinain4946 he was behind on the straight, almost full car behind, rather than alongside. he got alongside only at the end of braking , only because he braked way too late and missed the apex, ultimately hitting competitor car, that left him more than enough space on track.
Verstappen himself has started the dive bombs with impunity a couple years ago !! live by the sword die by the sword. He should know better that nobody is going to hand him any gifts especially Mercedes drivers.
@@chrisfernandez8916 That is true, and he is may bepayimg back prices he deserved before consederimg karma. However, the last incident was George's fault clearly to me regardless of Mercedes and Max battle so far.
@@chrisfernandez8916 If you really think Verstappen was the first driver to divebomb someone you either have a short memory or havn't been watching for long.
It highlights two things, 1) what a piece of crsp the AMG PETRONAS Mercedes is 2) given Max's overtake of George without touching George, what a wonderful car tge RedBull RB19 truly is. George was to hot and out of control locking a break. He did not have the corner because he was out of control and he knows it. Max overtook George on older tyres without incident later in the race. Max 1 - 0 George
He could have said but that wouldn't have made him correct. Lock up is a lock up. So who locks up and ends up on the opponents car, should take the blame. Simple.
yes, unless there was damage, bc even then max was able to admit fault, like when he got a 10sec penalty for understeering into Ricciardo in lap 1 in 2017 and apologized and took full blame or vs Vettel in china when he accepted full blame. Russell vs verstappen in Spain, when verstappen got fully forced off track, he agreed hard racing is hard racing, but only bc there was room to escape.
@@Arnaud58 that is literally what stewards do, they take in all other previous similar accounts to see what punishment fits the crime… that is what they then call precedent, and you don’t have to go too far to find similar incidents where drivers got a penalty for understeering into a driver… I believe his own teammate got one in silverstone! And I’ve already mentioned verstappen himself getting 10seconds for understeering and ripping a sidepod up in lap 1
Trying to find an excuse for Russell like Hill did …… Max was in front with his nose, Russell made the mistake cause he understeerd in him …… clear russell mistake
@@NonFlyiingDutchman Battling on track is always a risk. Max was ahead and he knows he has the better car. He would have gotten the position if Russell did not hit him. I think either racing incident or Stewards ask Russell to give back position. The biggest problem with the incident is that the Stewards never investigated!
@@Blue_Monkey Race director refers matters to the stewards. If the race director feels it was a racing incident, it doesn’t go for a full steward investigation.
@@Blue_Monkey I mostly agree. But... The biggest problem is indeed that there was no investigation because M. was involved. The same old song as the last 3-6 years.
Yeah I mean Max has a right to be pissed off. Did nothing wrong, got a lot of damage. People suggesting he could have been more cautious and not fight it are ridiculous. They're seriously saying he should just pull over and let everyone past?
I think most people are upset because of his post race reaction towards george, even after he explained and apologized what happened. And he obviously has the right to be pissed off but you gotta admit that Max was taking risks like George frequently not so long ago, so him calling George names isn't that appreciated I guess. But hey, at least it made the sprint a little bit more interesting i guess so non RB/Merc fans have enjoyed this little tussle between the two xD
That’s exactly what MV expects, everyone else to just give up the corner and not contest it if he’s alongside. He hates it when he doesn’t get his way, he’s a spoilt man child. Much in the same way Horner is.
Both of them knew the risk of what they were doing and neither wanted to back out. Just unfortunately Max got damage from it. Personally, I think he’s more upset because it was Perez leading/winning the race. He knows he might have to compete against his partner this year. It was good racing though.
Basically George made a small mistake. Max got punished for it because he took a risk going round the outside. George was lucky to get away with it. Max is understandably upset, but would have done the exact same were the roles reversed. It's racing. Move on.
@SWIM making a mistake while trying to leave a space is not at all same as deliberately steering into an opposite direction and physically pushing someone out of the course.
@@Jimmythefish577 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA FAIR??? TO CRASH IN HIS TEAMMATE ON PURPOSE TO TRY WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP….HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA YEAH REALLY FAIR RACER😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Jimmythefish577 i will give you some free lessons.. Senna was actually a more dirty driver then Max. Rule number one ☝️ nice guys will never win in life 😘
I thought it was just a “no fault” racing incident but seeing the lockup there on the inside shows GR’s willingness to brake so late off the racing line that he ends up crashing into people. If he’s applied the brakes properly and on time, Max would’ve been even further ahead at the apex than he was. Still not enough for a penalty tho if you have to go to freeze frames to even see the lockup.
Max has one of the fastest cars in a straight line here, and Mercedes has one of the slowest. Max should always have let this go. It was a mistake on his part to fight this at that point (even though George was in the wrong). If he had let George go, he could have easily overtaken George on the straight, and then also overtaken Charles.
That’s,a statement of a biased “fan’’ with no race experience whatsoever princes Russel,is getting frustrated and this is what you get. If it was the other way around Max would have got sliced in the media.
This was the first lap, despite the times from quali, nobody really knew how good the RBs were and how good the MBs were in terms of race pace. So if you give away a position, there is a chance that you will never get it back....
@@Arnaud58 are you that dumb Russell know he got a slower car that's why he is fighting for that position cause he knows max could overtake sooner or later
2:20 Let me start with, I dont know the whole regulation about this, so if someone wants to explain I would be happy to learn from it. But what would be my guess is: 1 car width of room between him and outside of the track, not 1 car width between him and the wall (?)
@@KrisoVT I remember a Monza race were Max pushed Bot on the curbs before turn 1, BOT had ONLY 2 left wheels on the curbs and Max got a 5 sec penalty for "forcing another of track". Must be because it was a MERC...............
What makes Russell think his Mercedes has any chance of dueling with the Red Bull? He knew he didn't have the pace so why did he get all aggressive with low temperature tires and T-bone Max? I think he should have been penalized.
Seems like a combination of Russell understeering into Verstappen and Verstappen cutting across Russell. They met in the middle. Risky from Verstappen not to take into account Russell may try and outbrake him knowing he was partially alongside going into 90-degreer. Cars don't disappear suddenly when they are committed to a corner. 60/40 on Rus.
@@Arnaud58 Verstappen was aware that Russell is racing him alongside and is going to contest his braking, and he still gave Russell bare minimum of space. Very risky. It's predominantly Russell's fault for the contact, but risky approach from Verstappen. When I race others, I always tend to give people twice as much of space just to make sure they won't do something stupid, cus little error on their side can damage me.
Love or hate Verstappen, this was a very fair and unbiased analysis. Today, George was at fault and should take blame. He made an aggressive move, and couldn’t pull it off with perfection.
both drivers, it was an a incident, Max took risk too, he had a little more space on the outside, he just got close to the wall bc of the contact but George misjudged his brake point too, normal incident for me
@@Arnaud58 i see no problem here, max still got space even though George locked the tires, incident, sucking Max balls, i just see people angry by nothing
Can RB bill Merc for the damage then? If teams are allowed to get away with causing damage to another team's car in which repairs to that car go against the salary cap....
It's the responsibility of the driver on the inside to not hit the outside driver when they have more than enough space. He messed up and locked the tires, there's no way it's Max's fault.
@00:29 One thing: Max was not attacking, he was defending his position.🧐 @01:02 So, conclusion should be: MV left enough room, but GR carried too much speed to make the turn.🤷♂ @01:05 GR later dared to state he was in front at the apex, so he claimed the corner...🤔 Well, maybe in another corner, or galaxy, but not in the "collision corner".🤥🤥🤥 @01:36 He did not apologize. To MV he said he did not have enough grip. Later to the media he stated he did nothing wrong... Where is the apology?🤔🙄 - What I saw was the FIA turning the known blind eye, and a little practice run to later on this year repeat the move of that diva guy in his Silverstone torpedo.🤮
shh, both drivers fault, GR doesn't need to apologize, it was an incident, he was along and on the inside so the corner belongs to him but he can't just forget about MV so he tried braking to the limit but misjudged his brake point by a little, but MV had a little more space to go on the outside but he choses to not and the gave bare minimum space for each other, none to blame, grow up
@@CarlosHumbertooACRL "he was along and on the inside so the corner belongs to him". By which rule? Clearly he was not in front, that really is rule. "misjudged his brake point by a little" This just means he was at fault. By a little, or by a Silverstone heap, fault is fault.
It is George’s fault, it wasn’t intentional and this kind of thing does happen. Think the “controversy” is that Max has done this and worse on multiple occasions and is being a massive hypocritical baby complaining about it.
he has a lack of awareness. Remember Singapore 2022, passing MSC and before fully passing him, hitting him. His comment was "I left him enough space" while he clearly did not. In Silverstone "he got hit from behind" while he clearly cutoff GAS, causing the big Zhou accident. Imola with BOT, blaming BOT and even hitting him on the helmet.
Kiss ass much Sky Sports? "there is a lot of space that max left in turn 2" and then "of, is barely space for a car in turn 3 left by russell" witch was almost a whole car in front and still verstapen tried to do same think he did in turn 2 when he got Karma-ed.
@@Arnaud58 Nope, that is the point. While anything can happen on a racing event, there is no way George wanted to collide with Max or vice versa. Replay clearly shows his front left locked up causing understeer.
@@mastery7901 "there is no way George wanted to collide" Means nothing. "front left locked up causing understeer." That does mean a lot. It means he was too greedy and not able to make the corner, thus causing the collision.
@@Arnaud58 Lmao bad logic. So what? is he just supposed to sit back and watch? This is a race, if you dont go for a gap, you are not a racer. Racers have to be greedy and to win you have to be more greedy. Thats the same way how Max won, by ambition and the desire to win. 🤷♂ He went for a gap and both Max and George had gaps between them, but he understeered due to a lock up. Very unfortunate. 🤷♂
@@mastery7901 He did not "understeered due to a lock up". It was due to to much speed and braking too late. That was being overly greedy. Racers must be greedy, they just cannot be overly greedy and lose control. Loosing control as in understeering into another...
I can only shake my head when I see the comments and totally opposite conclusions people come to by looking at the same "evidence". (Makes me lose confidence in a justice system where your fate is decided by a "'ury of your peers")... Here is a bias test: Remove the driver names and paint both cars white (or green or whatever). Look at the incident again. See if you come to the same conclusion.
It is obvious Max did NOT leave room. And poor little Max got beaten and Red Bull could not buy it for him! Max was the kid at school that always demanded a participation medal!
Max was aggressive defending the corner and it didn't work out for him, George was aggressive attacking the corner and it worked out, racing incident, call it that and move on. Mannnn this cry baby stuff needs to stop. When you put your elbows out expect some contact... Thank George for not letting King Max walk all over you ... need some competition
George didn't apologize and many people don't want to see it, that George was wrong. Of course Damon Hill is biased. So obvious. Damon, you called Max a poor loser, but take a look in the mirror.
@@chainsawmanbrrt1536 is that why he hit the wall on his own despite being given enough space, then on the next occasion he still tries it and has contact with Russel lol
i just see people trying to find someone to blame on but watching it i just see a normal race incident, both took risk, they gave bare minimum space for each other, and that's okay, it happens some times and i just see Max getting a taste of what he do and that's fine, both great drivers
Russel lost grip and couldn't keep his line, this happens in racing and if Russel admits/apologises like one would to a colleague it's not a big deal. But Russell tries to make Max look like the bad guy like some others tried before. They can't beat Max as a racer/driver and then try other tactics. He is a dighat but he's at the right team.
Max is a good driver but he can do one. He used to do that all the time, so I don’t wanna hear it from him. All of a sudden now that he’s trying to compete for championships he complains about space…pathetic
This is exactly what Verstappen does to everyone else, except he often causes a crash when he does it. He's got nothing to whine about except for maybe the contact.
The new torpedo ……. Russell has already passed Verstappen on being responsible for the most crashes. I feel we have a new torpedo on our hands. So Mercedes altering their strategy into bulldozer mode
Perfect explained! George had a lock up and understeer and even tought Max left space russell made the contact.
What space? Max had more room on the outside, Russel had none on the inside. 🤔
@@ccrider3435 Well there is a car width of room on the inside and that's what matters under the rules?
if u lock up, is coz u went longer than u had to on brakes... that means Russell messed up...
@@ccrider3435 you can replay the video as many as you can to learn that 1 car space is enough and the outside zone is the fkin run off and wall, but the contact they made were unexpected by both of them
@@ccrider3435 Are you blind? Russell had more than a car width.
Sky Sport : Russel DID carry to much speed into Turn 2 and caused the collition.
Russell : I don't understand....i was ahead at the apex....
Max : Your front tyre hit the middle of my car so how could you be ahead ??
Damon Hill : No no no...that was Hamilton's corner clearly.....ruuuuuulleee britania !!!!
For those of old enough to remember Senna .. this is all pretty lightweight stuff. Some contact, some heated words, but pretty benign if you remember the Prost v Senna moments. Verstappen is brilliant, and Russell gives no quarter. I think Russell’s hard-nosed approach may result in a few similar events with Hamilton later this year as he will not yield.
Exactly that 👍
A racing incident. The lock up occurred because Max stayed on the outside.
@@deningman No!
Because he was greedy, and went too far.
I think the anger from Max is purely due to it being a sprint race. It was simply supposed to be damage control and now he has a whole in his sidepod
@@SammyJCuthbert and he again blames others for the result.
So basically, to sum up: "George did lock up, and caused the contact, but should Max have been a racing driver and kept in the fight in the first place?"
SMMFH. Had it been the other way around, Max would've been strung up by the commentators. The bias is clear.
Max has the quickest car in a straight line here. Mercedes has one of the slowest.
George was wrong on this collision, but Max should have picked his fights more carefully. Let George go, easily overtake him on the straight, then easily overtake Charles.
@@JakeM218 That is some wise approach. However, I am pretty sure that drivers are well aware of that and much more but the ADRENALIN doesn't care about that I guess :)
@@JakeM218 BS
@@JakeM218 This argument is absurd because even if he wanted to, Max could not just "let George go". If he lets Geroge go he also has to let Carlos go, and then right behind is Alonso as well. There was just no room, their only option was to stay on their lines, leaving enough space for each other and hope nothing happens.
@@messifpv A couple of drivers did exactly what I suggested in the main race and didn’t lose any further positions…
Finally someone with common sense at Sky. Damon Hill ak Hamilton fanboy can learn something from this dude.
Karun is a max fanboy longtime!
I think it’s quite obvious that Russell is more at fault than Verstappen here, I don’t think that this is the problem for “fanboys”..
What makes us upset is that for a little bit of under steering that causes a small racing incident that you know you can always be part of in every start of a race (especially if you drive on the outside), verstappen got upset like someone tried to kill him, he was very disrespectful
@@TheZambo89 "What makes us upset is that for a little bit of under steering that causes a small racing incident " like Hamilton pushes Max off into hospital?
@@RobGrenzendicht lmfao the dutch with the "off into hospital" line will never fail to make me laugh lol.
@@rickylafleur5823 Max fans are similar to the SS with their levels of fanaticism.
Racing incident, I find it funny that both Russel, David and Naomi is saying that Max is attacking into the second corner even though he is obviously ahead. Turn 3 was worse imo.
It's weird for him to attack when he could easily have slot in behind and easily pass him with DRS. I'm pretty sure that's what they were referring to.
@ He wasn't attacking though that's what I'm saying
@ Well that argument doesnt really work for them since Russell knows Max has a much faster car and Russell will just get overtaken again, its not really possible for them to twist this one into being on Max. Max since 2022 is racing less agressive and very fair imo and they still pick on his racing very hard, i think thats kinda unfair imo
@@emilandersson4001 He was because he kept on power instead of slotting in behind. That is literally going on the offensive into turn 3.
@ so you are in front on the outside and then you decide to slot behind? How does that even work? Sainz would have overtaken him if not more drivers if he would have done that for no reason.
Max took no risk, because he made the corner and was able to leave space. How is that taking a risk? He can't fortune tell Russell would lock up. If you race with the mind your opponent might lock up, you might as well hang up the gloves.
but in a race, you always gotta take other things at risk. You can't expect everyone to do the exact thing that you thought, is like in trasit, you gotta use common sense too, be aware of your surroundings and prevent things like this in the video, George tried his best and max even though he had more space he insist not using it
I agree with you fully yet I also know that there is always risk passing around the outside of anyone. Still Russell locked up so I agree with you.
@@CarlosHumbertooACRL by that same logic, why didn't George use common sense that since the tyres are still cold, he shouldn't have risked a lock up?
@hani santa, if you compare turn 1,2,3 with turn 4, Russell at least attempts to leave space for max. Come turn 4, max goes all the way to the wall, cutting Carlos off. Same is true for lap six turn 1 with Russell. In each of these situations the drivers are side by side. The only difference is how the outside drivers concede, or not in Max’s case. He knew exactly what risk he was taking.
How can u not understand that going to the outside when u enter a corner neck and neck on a street circuit isn't taking a risk
Max has a right to be upset. The fact that he wasn't any better in the past is a completely different story.
Karma.
@@newjerseywales No arguments...
Deseved karma
Taste of his own medicine it's as simple as that
Now THAT is what I call a punchline... 🤣
Max was infront initiating the corner , george should have given up the corner but tried to stay side by side
Damon Hill, what a pathetic questions and insinuations that guy always has when it comes to max is unbelievable. He doesn’t even try to hide his hatred and biased view, and it is not like he is the sharpest tool in the shed either. I also get the impression that his fellow presenters don’t take him very seriously.
He is reason why i love only Noris of brits drivers because rest of them are just like Hill also media stuff thinking brits are greater than others.
Hill gets taken the piss off loads of times by fellow commentators and in podcasts. He's only at sky still to get those brit clicks and some hate clicks. He's not good for anything else.
(He does say some sensible things sometimes on the F1 Nation podcast ... but not enough to warrant his presence. Should give his spot to one of the excellent content creators out there atm)
Wtf y’all talking about?
Thanks for the objective analysis, I had been searching for one.
This makes sense. I didn’t realize George locked up.
Wait so George was surprised that Max attacked T2 when Max was considerably ahead?
In turn 2 max was on the outside, but was also in front.
But he wasn’t in front though… he was marginally ahead… but in front? Impossible. If he was in front it would be physically impossible for George to side swipe him. It was George’s corner… and Max knew it
A Merc understeering into a Red Bull......Tradition!
Usually the other way around. Shot memory my friend, what about Brazil
@@susie2976 Damn bro that's the only one u can name, now let's name Mercedes into Red Bull.
@@susie2976 You really can't be serious...
@@susie2976 Brazil? forgot about Hamilton on Albon on Brazil?
@@cl_0ud470 bringing hamilton into something that is nothing to do with him, you guys give him spotlight he dosen't need to try to :D
Clear bias. Imagine trying to blame Max for this when he kept enough space at all times. Not to mention they missed the contact at turn 3 when he got pushed into the wall again and almost lost position to sainz cause of it.
Max always demanding everyone leaces him room, yet he forces everyone off. Shame he doesn't make huge contact with a wall!
Can we just appreciate the skill!
Great sequence of corners. 👍
Steering lock on Russell car shows it all. He was only scrapping his tires instead of turning in the corner. What a rookie move.
thats call dive bombing to someone
@@roozbehsadrolashrafi He was alongside for the entire straight, how is that a dive bomb?
@@forsinain4946 because he torpedoed in the red bull's sidepod?
@@everydaydose7779 Oh come on. Damage aside, it was pretty light contact caused by a tiny lockup. They both had a right to be there, it's a tight corner, shit happens
@@forsinain4946 he was behind on the straight, almost full car behind, rather than alongside. he got alongside only at the end of braking , only because he braked way too late and missed the apex, ultimately hitting competitor car, that left him more than enough space on track.
Wait, so according to Russel, whomever is on the inside is correct? In that case let the dive bombs commence.
If it was the case, no one should have attempt to pass outside the corner. Doesn't make sense.
Verstappen himself has started the dive bombs with impunity a couple years ago !! live by the sword die by the sword. He should know better that nobody is going to hand him any gifts especially Mercedes drivers.
@@chrisfernandez8916 That is true, and he is may bepayimg back prices he deserved before consederimg karma. However, the last incident was George's fault clearly to me regardless of Mercedes and Max battle so far.
@@chrisfernandez8916 If you really think Verstappen was the first driver to divebomb someone you either have a short memory or havn't been watching for long.
It highlights two things,
1) what a piece of crsp the AMG PETRONAS Mercedes is
2) given Max's overtake of George without touching George, what a wonderful car tge RedBull RB19 truly is. George was to hot and out of control locking a break. He did not have the corner because he was out of control and he knows it. Max overtook George on older tyres without incident later in the race.
Max 1 - 0 George
Max in 2020 would say. Hard racing or we can all stay home.
More like 2018
He could have said but that wouldn't have made him correct. Lock up is a lock up. So who locks up and ends up on the opponents car, should take the blame. Simple.
yes, unless there was damage, bc even then max was able to admit fault, like when he got a 10sec penalty for understeering into Ricciardo in lap 1 in 2017 and apologized and took full blame or vs Vettel in china when he accepted full blame. Russell vs verstappen in Spain, when verstappen got fully forced off track, he agreed hard racing is hard racing, but only bc there was room to escape.
@@bynahelemaal Judging an incident would become a little complicated (and unjust) if all the history must be taken into account, Don't you think?🤣🤣🤣
@@Arnaud58 that is literally what stewards do, they take in all other previous similar accounts to see what punishment fits the crime… that is what they then call precedent, and you don’t have to go too far to find similar incidents where drivers got a penalty for understeering into a driver… I believe his own teammate got one in silverstone!
And I’ve already mentioned verstappen himself getting 10seconds for understeering and ripping a sidepod up in lap 1
Trying to find an excuse for Russell like Hill did …… Max was in front with his nose, Russell made the mistake cause he understeerd in him …… clear russell mistake
Yes, Russells' mistake but poor risk/reward calculation from Max
@@NonFlyiingDutchman Exactly
@@NonFlyiingDutchman Battling on track is always a risk. Max was ahead and he knows he has the better car. He would have gotten the position if Russell did not hit him.
I think either racing incident or Stewards ask Russell to give back position. The biggest problem with the incident is that the Stewards never investigated!
@@Blue_Monkey Race director refers matters to the stewards. If the race director feels it was a racing incident, it doesn’t go for a full steward investigation.
@@Blue_Monkey I mostly agree. But...
The biggest problem is indeed that there was no investigation because M. was involved. The same old song as the last 3-6 years.
George 100% at fault but I don’t remember him apologising? 🤔
Yeah I mean Max has a right to be pissed off. Did nothing wrong, got a lot of damage. People suggesting he could have been more cautious and not fight it are ridiculous. They're seriously saying he should just pull over and let everyone past?
I think most people are upset because of his post race reaction towards george, even after he explained and apologized what happened. And he obviously has the right to be pissed off but you gotta admit that Max was taking risks like George frequently not so long ago, so him calling George names isn't that appreciated I guess. But hey, at least it made the sprint a little bit more interesting i guess so non RB/Merc fans have enjoyed this little tussle between the two xD
That’s exactly what MV expects, everyone else to just give up the corner and not contest it if he’s alongside. He hates it when he doesn’t get his way, he’s a spoilt man child. Much in the same way Horner is.
Both of them knew the risk of what they were doing and neither wanted to back out. Just unfortunately Max got damage from it. Personally, I think he’s more upset because it was Perez leading/winning the race. He knows he might have to compete against his partner this year. It was good racing though.
It's because George didn't jump out of the way for him like he expects everyone to usually do
@@Jimmythefish577 Tough time to be a Merc fan.
Basically George made a small mistake. Max got punished for it because he took a risk going round the outside. George was lucky to get away with it. Max is understandably upset, but would have done the exact same were the roles reversed. It's racing. Move on.
Silverstone 2021 revisited. Literally
But if the roles were reversed you wouldn't be saying move on. You would be crying about how Max has is always crashing into people.
@@swim4757 it's hardly crying by stating fact that he's crashing into people
@SWIM making a mistake while trying to leave a space is not at all same as deliberately steering into an opposite direction and physically pushing someone out of the course.
@@nm-1-m159 And it's not a fact that George has done the same?
Poor max, he has always being a courteous gentle driver liked by all
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Max is like Schumacher and Senna.. ❤ the rest is just field filling 😊
@@stephanovrugt max is absolutely nothing like Senna, don’t even try to compare the two. Senna raced hard but fair.
@@Jimmythefish577 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA FAIR??? TO CRASH IN HIS TEAMMATE ON PURPOSE TO TRY WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP….HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA YEAH REALLY FAIR RACER😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Jimmythefish577 i will give you some free lessons.. Senna was actually a more dirty driver then Max. Rule number one ☝️ nice guys will never win in life 😘
Russell should be penalized.. Russell & Hamilton are the first to complain about other drivers
I thought it was just a “no fault” racing incident but seeing the lockup there on the inside shows GR’s willingness to brake so late off the racing line that he ends up crashing into people. If he’s applied the brakes properly and on time, Max would’ve been even further ahead at the apex than he was. Still not enough for a penalty tho if you have to go to freeze frames to even see the lockup.
the best part of f1 is on Monday. when they make it look interesting.
British media... damon.. what a joker
All understandable for me just as per the review
Max has one of the fastest cars in a straight line here, and Mercedes has one of the slowest.
Max should always have let this go. It was a mistake on his part to fight this at that point (even though George was in the wrong).
If he had let George go, he could have easily overtaken George on the straight, and then also overtaken Charles.
Pretty much in agreement
On the other hand, GR, knowing he was slower, hé should have given up the useless attempt.
That’s,a statement of a biased “fan’’ with no race experience whatsoever princes Russel,is getting frustrated and this is what you get. If it was the other way around Max would have got sliced in the media.
This was the first lap, despite the times from quali, nobody really knew how good the RBs were and how good the MBs were in terms of race pace. So if you give away a position, there is a chance that you will never get it back....
@@Arnaud58 are you that dumb Russell know he got a slower car that's why he is fighting for that position cause he knows max could overtake sooner or later
It is just the adrenaline and the heath of the moment. Just a race incident and one hour later they are on speaking terms again.
2:20 Let me start with, I dont know the whole regulation about this, so if someone wants to explain I would be happy to learn from it.
But what would be my guess is: 1 car width of room between him and outside of the track, not 1 car width between him and the wall (?)
Between the car and wall is fine, as you are only "off track" if all 4 tires are out of the light line.
@@KrisoVT I remember a Monza race were Max pushed Bot on the curbs before turn 1, BOT had ONLY 2 left wheels on the curbs and Max got a 5 sec penalty for "forcing another of track". Must be because it was a MERC...............
@@KrisoVT You should be banned from racing.
You just don't get it.
Max was ahead, then it is Russell who has to yield, it should be clear.
Maybe Russell locked up because he had to put a bit more brake pressure when Max turned in early while having a car alongside him.
When must Max turn? After the corner? He couldn't have turned any later
@@A2906-o8q man just watch chopper cam of the incident before talking
@@mickaelrodriguez525 if he turned any later he would have hit the wall, go check it again
@@A2906-o8q yeah yeah sure, stay blind my friend
@@mickaelrodriguez525 keep hating buddy, you would be pissed when Max does it to Russell
racing incident... move on guys
George is trash... move on guys
Russell just doing max signature move 😂
and he still finished over 4 seconds ahead xD
With a much faster car xd
George made mistake but for me this is a race incident and the racing I like to see. Move on and let's race!!
true, but oversteering into the side of someone, causing major damage, and by doing so gaining a position?
Be nice to see onboard of Carlos and Fernando at the restart
What makes Russell think his Mercedes has any chance of dueling with the Red Bull? He knew he didn't have the pace so why did he get all aggressive with low temperature tires and T-bone Max? I think he should have been penalized.
Good and fair analysis. Top.
it's motor racing, two drivers competing at the highest level, your going to get contact, accept it and get on with the race
Isnt this called racing? One driver trying to beat another. Theres going to be bumps and bruises in a street fight?
Seems like a combination of Russell understeering into Verstappen and Verstappen cutting across Russell. They met in the middle.
Risky from Verstappen not to take into account Russell may try and outbrake him knowing he was partially alongside going into 90-degreer. Cars don't disappear suddenly when they are committed to a corner.
60/40 on Rus.
Nope, MV gave GR ample space, but GR was too greedy and carried too much speed, so oversteered. Clear.
@@Arnaud58 Verstappen was aware that Russell is racing him alongside and is going to contest his braking, and he still gave Russell bare minimum of space. Very risky. It's predominantly Russell's fault for the contact, but risky approach from Verstappen. When I race others, I always tend to give people twice as much of space just to make sure they won't do something stupid, cus little error on their side can damage me.
Love or hate Verstappen, this was a very fair and unbiased analysis. Today, George was at fault and should take blame. He made an aggressive move, and couldn’t pull it off with perfection.
both drivers, it was an a incident, Max took risk too, he had a little more space on the outside, he just got close to the wall bc of the contact but George misjudged his brake point too, normal incident for me
@@CarlosHumbertooACRL Uhhm... who do you think is at fault "George misjudged his brake point"...........
I rest my case.
@@CarlosHumbertooACRLMax took a risk 😂😂😂 he was in front. What should he have done? Dude you are pathetic.
@@Arnaud58 i see no problem here, max still got space even though George locked the tires, incident, sucking Max balls, i just see people angry by nothing
Merc just wants video footage from the inside of the side pots.
To all Max fans, let it be guys, atleast we got a bit of action. Max has all the time in the world to walk over Russell in the race.😂
Which he did swiftly, without collision, as he said:"I know how to do this".😁
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Racing incident. When you go two wide on the outside you are taking a risk this will happen.
Max thought he could bully George into moving left, to get through. He shouldn't have put himself there on a left hander.
It's a racing incident. If we start penalizing this
We should just not have the sport
Racing incident with a big ass hole?
Can RB bill Merc for the damage then? If teams are allowed to get away with causing damage to another team's car in which repairs to that car go against the salary cap....
This new sprint format is just another reason to not have the sport anyways
It's the responsibility of the driver on the inside to not hit the outside driver when they have more than enough space. He messed up and locked the tires, there's no way it's Max's fault.
@@cl_0ud470 nobody said that. Racing incident
Russel apologized? he just walked away, the jerk. russel made a big mistake, he came too fast for turn 3. But…Verstappen will never forget….
Max is the dirtiest driver on the grid he got what he deserved.
Much more please
@00:29 One thing: Max was not attacking, he was defending his position.🧐
@01:02 So, conclusion should be: MV left enough room, but GR carried too much speed to make the turn.🤷♂
@01:05 GR later dared to state he was in front at the apex, so he claimed the corner...🤔
Well, maybe in another corner, or galaxy, but not in the "collision corner".🤥🤥🤥
@01:36 He did not apologize. To MV he said he did not have enough grip. Later to the media he stated he did nothing wrong... Where is the apology?🤔🙄
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What I saw was the FIA turning the known blind eye, and a little practice run to later on this year repeat the move of that diva guy in his Silverstone torpedo.🤮
shh, both drivers fault, GR doesn't need to apologize, it was an incident, he was along and on the inside so the corner belongs to him but he can't just forget about MV so he tried braking to the limit but misjudged his brake point by a little, but MV had a little more space to go on the outside but he choses to not and the gave bare minimum space for each other, none to blame, grow up
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@@CarlosHumbertooACRL "he was along and on the inside so the corner belongs to him".
By which rule? Clearly he was not in front, that really is rule.
"misjudged his brake point by a little" This just means he was at fault. By a little, or by a Silverstone heap, fault is fault.
@@CarlosHumbertooACRL BS
Great summary
it’s not George’s fault or maxs like at all
So George is all good for making a mistake, locking up his tires and destroying the side of Max’s car?
It is George’s fault, it wasn’t intentional and this kind of thing does happen. Think the “controversy” is that Max has done this and worse on multiple occasions and is being a massive hypocritical baby complaining about it.
Racing incident, nothing more.
@@roblucas6097 yeah exactly
Pretty clear that the correct decision in this circumstance is that George should give back the space since he took it unfairly albeit unintentionally
Max left exactly 1 car room. Russel missed his corner due to understeering and hit max without penalty and people say max is overreacting lol
Russel keeps on biting other drivers … he is a very aggressive driver but without care
he has a lack of awareness. Remember Singapore 2022, passing MSC and before fully passing him, hitting him. His comment was "I left him enough space" while he clearly did not. In Silverstone "he got hit from behind" while he clearly cutoff GAS, causing the big Zhou accident. Imola with BOT, blaming BOT and even hitting him on the helmet.
@@Eric-rf1is way to many times he has done it … remember also Carlos Sainz case
@@AlexP-bg7ge Also moving under braking (multiple times) in Austria at turn 4 vs. Kimi Raikkonen in 2021.
Very edgy racer for sure.
if Max had the inside, he would leave 1 centimeter for the "enemy"
Exactly!
That's not enough for GR, he needs a yard!
Moral of the story, non gave quarter while competitive racing.
It's called racing, neither of them did anything wrong except race hard. The fans are being more salty than the drivers.
What about the braking? Why George did not breaked more/earlier?
Same reason why Lewis didn't at Silverstone 2021 I'm afraid.
Why do they go full throttle on the straight?
Considering that was the first lap in Sprint you don't do that
Team policy.
Russell fucked up. Max is right but a bit whiny.
Overall, I'm happy George is showing some balls.
Russel is dangerous, ask Bottas, Zhou and others…
Kiss ass much Sky Sports? "there is a lot of space that max left in turn 2" and then "of, is barely space for a car in turn 3 left by russell" witch was almost a whole car in front and still verstapen tried to do same think he did in turn 2 when he got Karma-ed.
Why didn't Horner get on the radio to the race director and have the rules changed to ban Russel for the rest of the season?
Toto already on the radio with race director that's why Russell got no penalties 🤷🏻
@@hugo5845 Good, that was the correct outcome.
Unfortunate racing incident. George locked up while trying to turn.
That is not the point, "Unfortunate" is not the same as unavoidable, or out of order.
@@Arnaud58 Nope, that is the point. While anything can happen on a racing event, there is no way George wanted to collide with Max or vice versa. Replay clearly shows his front left locked up causing understeer.
@@mastery7901 "there is no way George wanted to collide" Means nothing.
"front left locked up causing understeer." That does mean a lot.
It means he was too greedy and not able to make the corner, thus causing the collision.
@@Arnaud58 Lmao bad logic.
So what? is he just supposed to sit back and watch? This is a race, if you dont go for a gap, you are not a racer. Racers have to be greedy and to win you have to be more greedy. Thats the same way how Max won, by ambition and the desire to win. 🤷♂
He went for a gap and both Max and George had gaps between them, but he understeered due to a lock up. Very unfortunate. 🤷♂
@@mastery7901 He did not "understeered due to a lock up".
It was due to to much speed and braking too late. That was being overly greedy.
Racers must be greedy, they just cannot be overly greedy and lose control.
Loosing control as in understeering into another...
The main thing to upset is the mercedes style PR response where George react to max like IDGAF.
Zero sincerity imo
I can only shake my head when I see the comments and totally opposite conclusions people come to by looking at the same "evidence". (Makes me lose confidence in a justice system where your fate is decided by a "'ury of your peers")... Here is a bias test: Remove the driver names and paint both cars white (or green or whatever). Look at the incident again. See if you come to the same conclusion.
It is obvious Max did NOT leave room. And poor little Max got beaten and Red Bull could not buy it for him!
Max was the kid at school that always demanded a participation medal!
Normal race accident
Watch them take each other out tomorrow...
Verstappen upset that he got verstappened
George doing George things… 🤷🏻♂️
Max was aggressive defending the corner and it didn't work out for him, George was aggressive attacking the corner and it worked out, racing incident, call it that and move on. Mannnn this cry baby stuff needs to stop. When you put your elbows out expect some contact... Thank George for not letting King Max walk all over you ... need some competition
Damon who?
George didn't apologize and many people don't want to see it, that George was wrong.
Of course Damon Hill is biased. So obvious. Damon, you called Max a poor loser, but take a look in the mirror.
Eh typical first lap racing incident. Moving on.
Crying too much? Legends don't cry as this guy does!
cope
Any driver even in the 90s with common sense would complain if they were max
Hamilton much!?
Bro anyone would be pissed too when they got hit even though they leave a decent space for the another drivers lol
@@chainsawmanbrrt1536 is that why he hit the wall on his own despite being given enough space, then on the next occasion he still tries it and has contact with Russel lol
this guy has no guts to have opinions ...if max was on the inside instead of russell , he would have put him in the wall ..
Pommy defense to the rescue again.
i just see people trying to find someone to blame on but watching it i just see a normal race incident, both took risk, they gave bare minimum space for each other, and that's okay, it happens some times and i just see Max getting a taste of what he do and that's fine, both great drivers
Why all the drama ?? it s like you guys are watching formula 1 for the first time. people these days
Russel lost grip and couldn't keep his line, this happens in racing and if Russel admits/apologises like one would to a colleague it's not a big deal. But Russell tries to make Max look like the bad guy like some others tried before. They can't beat Max as a racer/driver and then try other tactics. He is a dighat but he's at the right team.
This is Mercedes driving stile, to hit rival side pods damage the car ! Toto wolf tehniq
Diving Bomb 💣 George
Lool, anyone else want to play the "spot the Verstappen fanboy" game in the comment section?
Max is a good driver but he can do one. He used to do that all the time, so I don’t wanna hear it from him. All of a sudden now that he’s trying to compete for championships he complains about space…pathetic
Maybe George tries To climb To better car like with bottas in imola
Racing incident
Racing incident with a a big ass hole ?
inchident
My God, the différence driving level between Max and this english hater, huge diff
Just race, no more in that to find out
Max need more carful 🤷🏻♂️
Max took the risk, Russell not a push over F1 driver
This is exactly what Verstappen does to everyone else, except he often causes a crash when he does it. He's got nothing to whine about except for maybe the contact.
George fukked up, and Merc is not penalised. rinse, repeat...
The new torpedo ……. Russell has already passed Verstappen on being responsible for the most crashes. I feel we have a new torpedo on our hands.
So Mercedes altering their strategy into bulldozer mode