Hawthorn Mall: Fighting To Save Itself | Retail Documentary & Tour
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- Опубликовано: 25 мар 2022
- An analysis/tour about the current state and the renovations happening at Hawthorn Mall in Vernon Hills, IL.
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Renovation is beautiful! I still miss the old Hawthorn. It was a great place to shop especially if you didn’t want to deal with the crowd at Gurnee Mills❤️.
I have many fond memories of this mall when I was working in Buffalo Grove. I'd drive up to this mall after work.
Didn't realize that the Panda Express, Subway, Cajun Cafe and Taco Bell were gone from the food court. The Panda was the largest tenant in the food court. They were all still there in 2017 when I left.
I really like how you’ve added the maps in recent videos. Not only is it a good way to present the mall’s history, it gives you a lay of the land.
Thanks!! It takes a lot more work but I think it adds a lot to my videos!
Having lived in Mundelein, a neighboring city from 1998-2021, I agree with what you say. I personally know the decline. It saddens me. But I’m so thrilled they’re trying to revive it. I’m optimistic too and truly hope things end up well
Never seen this channel til today. Soon as I saw a deadmall in the thumbnail and heard vaporwave in the background I knew it was gonna be good.
Thank You!!!!
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This video is incredible and among now one of my favorites on yt. I can't wait to see what this mall has in store for it as now at least one mall now gets a chance off coming back as over the years many malls die out than being saved. hawthorn has a great future ahead.
Remember coming here back in the late 80's around the holidays and in the summer, was always packed.
Thank you for the great coverage of my local mall. I usually stop here for lunch more than actually buying goods. But I enjoy walking around. Love the center court update. They have an actual arcade and gaming center. I've done the mini golf before. And I'm really excited to see what 2.0 is all about.
I ran across your channel couple months ago and have been enjoying the videos. The local touch for me is great. Your Spring Hill vid inspired me to visit and vlog it for the first time as well. I recently covered specific topics at Hawthorn and Woodfield. Covered places like Kmart and Fry's in the past as well. Although it's not the main topic of my channel, retail and malls gets its own playlist at least and something I want to continue to build on for sure. You even gave a nod to 390 in your other channel which is how my channel started.
Keep up the great work and look forward to future vids. I still to this day have a very fuzzy memory of a small but formal mall in Villa Park on North and Addison. A truly dead mall you could walk through, no shops just the anchors I believe. Early to mid 90s maybe. Creepy. But cool. And got chopped up quickly to make a couple bigger stores.
Thanks!!! Its awesome to hear great feedback on these videos. I really appreciate it.
#unsustainable greed ruined US
Im a ups driver I delivered there since 2015. Its sad i saw the decline of the mall in person.Met a lot of nice customers throughout the years
AMC should have bought the whole building and turned it into a massive movie theater.
Can you do a final Store Tour video at Burlington (Montgomery Ward) Stratford Square Mall in Bloomingdale, IL?
I grew up in Libertyville. My parents were friends of people who were active in the anti-Hawthorn mall movement. Years later, after seeing all the retail revenue go to neighboring Vernon Hills, the friends confessed their motive: They foolishly thought that, if they opposed Libertyville annexing the land, the mall wouldn't be built. I'm sad to see the decline of indoor malls; I like the convenience of everything under one roof. The new mini town square concept is a pain in the butt. The developers don't really do anything to make it pedestrian-friendly so you can walk from store to store, and even if they did, Illinois has brutal winters and multi-day stretches of rain in warmer months; the last thing you want to be is outside.
I started going there in the early 80's after the Sears in downtown Waukegan closed in 1983. We had Lakehurst mall and the smaller Belvidere mall close by.
Man, I miss Lakehurst. It was awesome in the 70s: Orange Julius, Chess King, Just Pants, Aladdin's Castle, Betty's of Winnetka, Things Remembered, Barbary Coast Hair Salon, Carson Pirie Scott, Wieboldt's, etc. I loved hanging out there!
This place reminds me of Fox Valley lol. Also today I was at the oldest indoor mall in the US, Southdale center in Edina, MN
They have the same owner too with the same anchors. Fox Valley has a bigger center court though.
I'd say Fox Valley is a little bit more successful, than Hawthorn Center. Hawthorn sadly to say shows more cracks, than Fox Valley. That said, I hope Hawthorn manages to hang on.
Fun watching this video too. I had serviced the music systems at quite a few stores in the mall back several years, as well as the mall’s system. Last time I was there right before I retired about 2 years ago, it was sadly lacking many stores at that time.
That Disney collectible and art store could be a licensed store that just sells the "grown up" portion of Disney merch and art. This could be why Disney isn't shutting them down.
Yeah that would make sense then.
I have been in there a few times and it is very fancy, and very expensive Disney artwork mostly. As well some special unique pieces like Disney themed purses and collectibles. Very certain this is officially licensed products. They make it very clear on the outside though no pics or vids lol.
I went shopping here with my aunt back in middle school, and I guess I didn’t notice its struggles. (Kind of have rose-tinted lenses when you’re a kid, you know?) Thanks for exploring it!
Yeah I get what you mean. It was also doing way better a few years ago so you might not be wrong.
@@LostDepartments I fell in love with your Spring Hill Mall videos. That was my childhood mall right there. Thanks for covering all the malls I grew up with! Sad to see, but interesting to watch.
Hawthorn was very doing well until 2018 when Carson's and Sears closed and Barnes and Noble moved its store out of the mall. It was always near full there when I went in 2017.
The renovation looks pretty cool.
Super cool this is one of my local malls
This was a great mall for me in my high school years (2011-2015) and I can’t wait for 2.0 to come out!
You gotta do Northbrook Court. Hawthorn isn’t fighting to save itself with more than 1 store coming soon, nbc has less stores and NONE coming soon and a 80% chance of a cancelled REDEVLOPMENT .They buy Macys to redevelop it where they could’ve kept it and been more stable than now.
The mall recently lost Swarvoski, American eagle, foot locker and some others. I’m a nbc finatic and I know they just lost 8 stores mostly brand named, including H&M and J. Crew
@@illinoismallexploring4419 I think I worry more about Northbrook, than I do Hawthorn. Brookfield keeps delaying the apartment project that is supposed to be built on the old Macy's/Field's site, at Northbrook. And this mall continues to lose stores. I worry that eventually you may hear about Gap moving from this mall, though it hadn't yet left from my last visit. Shopper's Find(which took over Lord and Taylor) closed at the end of summer 2022. I do wonder if Brookfield one day will sell Northbrook? I greatly worry they will bail on Northbrook Court(and like how this company bailed on Spring Hill Mall), but what do I know?
Another nice docu as usual!
Thanks!!!
@@LostDepartments you welcome man
This place makes me think of North Point Mall in Alpharetta, GA. It may get redeveloped the same way this mall is.
Another good video - I spent so much time here, from shopping with my parents in the 1970's to hanging out with my HS friends in the 1980's. I now live closer to Spring Hill and caught your video on the mall. Such a shame these properties are declining. I hope they can find a way to revive these once amazing properties.
Great video man!!! I don’t know why, I wanted to visit this mall for a while and just haven’t.
Thank You!!! It definitely an interesting mall.
nice video 🔥🔥
I worked in the Mc Donald's there in the 80's....the food court was a rush...there used to be another McD's on a side entrance and they were linked.....
I was actually just here today. I went to northbrook court also and that mall is doing worse than hawthorn.
I'm well aware about Northbrook doing bad, I'm planning to do that one in the future. This was filmed about a month ago too.
Agreed.northbrook court is actually in foreclosure.it happened due to Covid.it’s also looking for a buyer and construction has stopped outside the former Macy’s.also H&M has also closed.
@@LostDepartments In that month, not much has changed except the development is being built on the former sears. At least hawthorn and fox valley both have the same owner that cares unlike kohan or namdar which own Stratford and Spring Hill.
@@markmatuga2595 OMG WHERE DID YOU HEAR ITS IN FOR CLOSURE?!
@@retailadventures6 Northbrook is still luxury, with Louis, Neiman, Tiffany, Stuart Weitzman, Max Mara, Etc so I will be shocked if a bad mall owner gets its hands on this mall. And it better not be remodeled, Northbrook Court is the best, most prettiest mall I’ve ever seen, I come here almost every week and have a whole routine, and I love it. Then January came and I watched 8 stores close down like H&M and J, crew, and I was sad but those are the january blues, it’s common for malls now to close everything in January, mostly dying malls… But this mall does amazing on saturday and Sunday, but your probably right it’s in fore closure, nothing is opening and probably because they’re about to hand the keys back.
By the way, I love your map history thing.
Thanks!!!
Very nice job detailing the rise and decline and rise again of one of the best malls in the midwest. Your observation about how much the Marshall Field's architecture still stands out inside Macy's are quite accurate. Given Macy's fondness for the destruction of most things unique to Marshall Field's, it's surprising how much still remains- at least upstairs. The lower level seems much more like a typical Macy's. It's been years since I've visited Hawthorn and your video is inspiring me to plan a trip. Since you recorded the video a year ago, there has undoubtedly been much progress made in completing the new concept. Hawthorn's owners are indeed investing in it's future and that makes for a great story.
Macy's ruined everything.
If you come to the Quad Cities - Macerich hasn't done a lot. SouthPark Mall in IL has lost a couple of long time places recently. I think NorthPark in IA is doing ok maybe.
I'll keep them on my radar if I ever find an excuse to get out there.
My brother went to the hospital do to an injury at the play ground I accidentally caused. His head hit a sharp corner on one of those things where you can look outside. Kind of like a submarine
Really is heartbreaking. So many memories here. Worked there in 99, good times
Lived in the area.im surprised at this one. It'. Used to be at least an upscale area with low crime
The area is still good. The fact it is getting redeveloped this quickly is a testament to that.
HI JIM
Interesting channel, subbed!
Thanks!!!!
A new experience is coming later this year!
When it was the first time I watched your channel, you used to have 54 videos (My first video I watched in your channel is you at College Square Mall)
I think once everything is done it will be great
The 1st floor of that JCPenney is very spaced out because it's a side effect of their failed attempt to steal appliance market share from Sears, they walled off the former appliance department and spaced out the remaining merchandise
In the 90s Hawthorn Mall had electronic dinosaurs cuz I do remember it
You should see hawthorn mall now😭even more stores have closed down, in fact over half the stores have closed down and it’s so sad to see 🥺. I believe the only food places left in the food court are Charlie’s and Cinnabon. Victoria’s Secret/PINK and Windsor being two of the most recent store closures. The wings of the mall that held sears and Carson‘s are completely walled off. Almost no foot traffic compared to last year and more stores are looking like they’re closing down as well
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Subway used to be there
Chicago area malls are having a harder time staying afloat compared to many of the malls in South Florida.
A large part of this is that our malls were dealed double blows of losing at least Sears and Carson's in recent years.
I live in Boston and we lost both Lord & Taylor and Sears. If a local mall has both a Macy’s and a Nordstrom, the mall is generally better than those without both department stores.
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Heard even the McDonald’s wants to leave.been in the food court since it opened under the name the Colondide Cafe back in 1984.
They're basically leaving all malls. I heard that the woodfield one closed too. The only other one in Chicagoland is at the HIP.
@@LostDepartments woodfield did close, I’d be shocked to see hawthorns close, and even though I don’t like this mall I feel bad,
@@illinoismallexploring4419 if you look at the food court carefully.sarku Japan mysteriously left.it was the most popular in this particular district.which makes me wonder why there still in extremely dead malls like golf mill and Stratford Square.I heard the McDonald’s in hawthorn is attempting to get out of their long term lease.they already have a location across the street at hawthorn hills fashion square next to IHOP.but if they leave hawthorn it I believe could be the death knell of the food court.Taco Bell and Panda Express have already left due to both staffing and low sales.there is almost no traffic during the week.the only action I see is usually on the weekends when the theater is busy.
@@illinoismallexploring4419 the woodfield location was in business for 47 years.but with the new food court and a Burger King and places like chipotle I wonder if it “ ate” way their foot traffic.
@@markmatuga2595 I came a few weeks ago on Saturday, it was packed by JCPenney, and there was babies riding these animals, I came on a weekday, empty, the food court did get busier at dinner though, not that busy though. Do you know anything about northbrook court though? I go there more plus it’s my favorite mall.
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