even though in the second and third book they say fuck it and leave and for some reason in the third book there is that bullshit ending where they can leave and survive and end up with the main character living with him
That's because they were present in the collapsing loop while escaping from caul. It was a side effect. There was the good side effect, in which it restores the children's youth and the bad side effect from the failed experiment explained in the first book that turned caul and his followers into hollows.
Chicken Ella Yeah, and it’s clearly shown they know how to read, write and do basic math because they’re all fine at handling money (Wizarding at least) and of course they can read and write because they write essays and there’s a huge library. Matpat really didn’t think that one through.
@@Ndasuunye He was also talking about the specific school and what they teach and how it works rather than talkng about the students' current or past knowledge or education. Like, sure, they may learn this stuff before Hogwarts, therefore knowing how to do it, but the point is that Hogwarts itself doesn't seem to help with that.
There's a difference between the reading ability you naturally have and the reading ability you get from a classroom. Upon graduation, Hogworts students will be less capable readers than their muggle counterparts. That's the point.
We can't know if that's the point or not. All he said was that they can't read. And given the number of people I knew who could barely read in high school, and the sheer vastness of reading Hogwarts' students would be required to do in and out of the classroom would make it, if anything, the inverse of what you said. And how much does reading ability really increase in class, anyway? It's not like they have classes specifically _for_ it. Reading ability increases with use. The more you read, the more quickly you'll be able to and the more words you'll pick up as you go. If you want to pass your OWLs and NEWTs, you are going to be doing a _lot_ of reading. Especially if you want to get a good grade, up to and including an Outstanding.
The anti discrimination issue, while important, is not illegal. The wizarding world is not subject to the rules of the human governments, solely the wizarding governments.
"While important?" You are aware that the school doesn't actually exist, right? How would fake (and utterly justified) discrimination be important lol.
Gonna have to disagree on that one. The "wizarding world" isnt located somewhere thats completely inaccessible to humans, AND the ministry uses magic to basically keep them from noticing magical happenings and locations (which seems kinda morally grey, but whatever). So how would one explain flying cars/dragons/death eaters/dark lords and all the other magical stuff if they were used to destroy or infringe upon the rest of the world? How would accountability hold up? The bridge incident is a good example.
I agree if the muggle government gave them money then the anti discrimination law would be in effect. but since it answers to the ministry of magic it is controlled by their laws. as proof the ministry has betted in multiple times to make changes to the professors among other things.
Considering that in book 3 Harry buys some hot chocolate for 2 sickles and that the price of a hot chocolate is about 3-4 dollars, that would mean a sickle is worth $1.50-2 dollars. And since there are 17 sickles to a galleon, that would mean that a galleon is worth about 25-35 dollars. Still pretty impressively frugal.
@@meerkatman2289 There are conversions for wizard money, which makes the wizarding world one of the cheapest places in the world Edit: The hot chocolate costed $0.70
It would be cool if they did let some squibs into the school. Even though they can't do magic, they would be excellent in subjects such as Muggle Studies, Astronomy and even help out in subjects that do require magic. They could learn every spell by heart and be ready to tell their peers what to do in case of an emergency. They could collect and add all of the potion ingredients into the potion and just let the witch or wizard do the wandwork. There are people in the muggle world trying to do divination, so it would be very interesting to see squibs try to do divination. History of Magic would be a great subject that they may excel at as well. While they would not be able to defend themselves in case of a battle, squibs could be amazing at doing physical fighting and could teach Hogwarts students physical defences like karate. This could be an amazing fanfic.
I would like to point out that in the letter every hogwarts student gets, it’s only stated that students may bring a pet if they wish. They are most certainly not required
That doesn't make it right. They could still have courses for humans who wish to help out the magic world. They could act as messengers and experts on muggle culture. This is only if the have at least one magic parent or relative or course. You wouldn't want people to freak out and expose them.
what would happen if they did expose them though? "the wizzard school won't let me in!" "Oh, he's a kid, don't listen to him!" or "he's crazy, lock him up."
No. No you couldn't. My brother can't bring rice crispy squares to school because several of his classmates are poor and can't afford treats. To "protect them" and "not fester unfairness". How would a kids self esteem be if he was surrounded by MAGIC USERS WHO CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
well, Hogwarts is a school to teach magic techniques for people who CAN use magic... it's like trying to teach arm wrestling for people without arms... that's not discrimination on their part
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I love how majority of this comment section are just Potter fans pointing out to Matpat that the school is actually very affordable, the Wizarding logic and MoM, and everything else he didn't do a deep dive in *I guess that Moral of the story here is just that most Harry Potter fans expect you to have read the books twice or thrice, studied the Rowling interviews, and seen the Pottermore confirmations before making a Potter theory*
Well, to be fair he did quote JK Rowling herself, so if he was able to get confirmation on something from that, he should be able to confirm information based on books (vide fund support for school expences). Especially considering that he also managed to confirm a point for Xavier's school rummaging through comic issues.
This is MULTI MILLION SUBSCRIBER RUclips channel with a whole team of researcher. And that is like the most basic fact imaginabke. The only reason he says it is because it starts drama, giving him more views and money. And no matter what people say, he will never agnolish it, respond or anything. And he will continu, and he will be succesfull
@@yetekt6953 1: He had like 5 million subscribers at the time and Even more at game theory, I remember, because it was at about this time I first discovered the channel, so he certantly had at least some help. 2: Its not like you have to dig deep to Get this information. In fact, it is never stated that the ministry doesnt have a law against discrimination, but it is common sense if he had just read a Pottermore article or the harry Potter wiki page, they make it very clear that the ministey has nothing to do with the mugge world or their laws
The Ministry of magic is effectively a private business, as such getting funding from it does not qualify as government funding. The tax money would legally be treated as a membership fee.
To be fair in Harry Potter they have to go to primary school before they go to hogwarts so they will know SOME things from the muggle world but they might forget it :/
"Do schools still use laserdiscs?" We still use cassette tapes and Windows 7. We're not allowed to use Chrome, only Internet Explorer. It's like our school is stuck in a time loop in 2004.
I mean, the wizarding world has its own Government and Laws. Presumably discriminating against squibs is legal within their legal system, which is the same legal system Hogwarts gets taxes from
but is discriminating squibs allowed in their legal system? if so, sucks to be them... the thing is, squibs also pays taxes, if the school is funded by the government , there shouldn't be any such thing as magical and non magical kid both have parents that pays taxes, both are the same but this is if the magic world or whatever it's called follow the same rules as real world
The only reason why they're discriminated against attending Hogwarts is likely just cause they couldn't possibly pass any spell casting classes. Same logic as someone with low grade average not being able to attend Harvard.
@@disgustof-riley8338 I feel like that would be like trying to teach somebody with no arms how to use the Wii Remote Strap. However, I do feel like Squibs could be taught about potions and how to make them. Edit: I am now aware of the fact that potions require spells to work. While I would suggest partnering up with a wizard that actually does the spells, that would likely just overcomplicate things. As such, I don't really have any ideas.
they could still learn things in certains subjects though: Potions, Herbology, Astronomy, Care for Magical Creatures, Muggle Studies or History of Magic can all be used and applied by Squibs...
@@zoe1482 why would they need those classes if they can't easily work for the magical community. It's more practical long-term for them to spend their time learning in muggle schools
Technically since you HAVE to be a wizard, or have a peculiar soul for two of the three X-men wins because they don't turn you away if you aren't a mutant.
It’s called “Miss Peregrine HOME for peculiar children” not school they don’t even Learn stuff they just live in there loop Edit:This is the most likes I ever got and it’s a JOKE HAHAHA OH SH*T i played those mad people your literally right 😂
Yes and No, The children do live there, and yes by the time Jacob comes it's been 70 years since the loop was made, that's enough to get from Kindergarten to College , not to mention some of the kids are old enough like Millard, Enoch, Emma, Bronwyn, Hugh, and Fiona, (BOOK VERSION), that's why they're barely learning anything,maybe some stuff about peculiars here and there but still, also they probably didnt teach some stuff to the young ones because they stayed young
Hogwarts has an account for students that can't buy stuff, it is mentioned in the 6th book, when Dumbledore is talking to kid Voldemort, because Voldy was an orphan without money.
Sarah It's only mentioned in the book, Dumbledore wasn't actually alive in the book but it was a flashback to when Voldy was a kid and Dumbledore was still alive.
The W/L Superhero. yes I know it was in Dumbledore's lessons using his memories in the pensive, in the 7th book he was dead and Harry didn't have any access to the pensive or Dumbledore's memories, hence my comment.
Umbrige: Hem Hem, none of the proffesers would pass ministry exames and I torchor students. Trolony: Harry, you're going to die and I prodict a student's death every year. Snape: I used to be a death eater and favor my house and hate a student because his father was mean. Hagrid: I didn't finish school because I was framed for murder and keep monsters as pets.
So Hogwarts loses the point because it doesn't accept Students... _that can't be taught?_ Muggles literally *can't* be taught at Hogwarts, Potions need to be stirred with Wands, most classes require the use of Spells, Muggles physically cannot do that. It's like teaching a Blind Person how to drive, it's literally impossible.
But, the thing is, it isn't. It's in book 2 I believe, Harry is brought into Filch' office. On the desk, there is a letter describing a magic learning course for squibs. If it can be used by squibs, why couldn't it be used by muggles? After all, there must be at least a recessive gene for magic, other wise there would be no muggleborns/halfbloods. A squib is born of magical parents, while having no magic to say of their own. That means that the magical gene is still there, and were a squib to have a child, that pases on the gene, with the same 50/50 chance tto be able to go to Hogwarts, the same on the squib parent had.
+Hallie Holme The Kwikspell course wasn't meant for squibs, though. In the letter it shows two reviews from a witch and wizard praising the course, and neither of them were squibs, they were simply poor with magic. The witch says that she can't remember incantations, and that her potions suck. The wizard says that his charms are feeble. And obviously Filch has no luck with the courses, so the Kwikspell thing clearly only works for sub-par wizards/witches. In other words, muggles and squibs can't be taught magic, for they don't have any magical power. This idea is also touched upon in the seventh book when the Death Eater regime rounds up muggle-borns, claiming that they are muggles who have stolen magical abilities from actual wizards and witches, which they know is impossible. "If you could steal magic, there wouldn't be any muggles or squibs, would there?" On the subject of squibs and muggle-borns, squibs are rare, while muggle-borns are much more common. Dumbledore's notes on The Tale's of Beedle the Bard tell us that there is a theory that muggle-borns exist because they have a magical ancestor. That being said, if this theory is true (which I think it is, because it makes no sense for a muggle to give birth to a wizard for no reason), then for a muggle-born to be created, they would have to have an ancestor who was a squib. That squib ancestor would have to have become a member of muggle society, had children with a muggle, and those children were non-magical, but still inherited the magic gene. That gene would then be passed down continuously until it resurfaced generations later, creating a "muggle-born". Since muggle-borns are common, while squibs are not, it must also be common for squibs to give birth to non-magical children, which would explain the abundance of muggle-borns. If a squib were just as likely to produce magical children as a witch or wizard, there would basically be no muggle-borns.
He said cyclops has no depth perception and while true for actual cyclops, the x-man cyclops does have two eyes. The name just comes from the visor he uses to control his powers
@@tomduckworth6430 doesn't his powers make his sight a little wonky I know the visor makes his vision red but I always assumed the powers made it hard for him to really see well
Not only that but he's also a master's level genious with physics and at least a bachelor's in mechanical enginering, which is how he's able to not only make and alter the vizor he uses for his powers but is capable of reflecting, bouncing, and adjusting the beam through/off of various surfaces.
I'm an avid fan of the Peculiar series, though I hate hate HATE the movie. It's amazing in it's own way, yes, but as a person who's read the books, it just makes my eyes water. Peculiar ability swapping aside, I loved the fact they added the Twins, and how they imagined Miss Peregrine without her mask. It would have been super had they followed the proper plot.
I totally agree. I saw the movie first and then read the books a few years later, but the fact that they changed the plot in the movie still makes me really salty
MatPat, the ministry has to have a law that allows public wizard schools to reject squibs. If they had to have squibs there, then what would they learn? They can't do magic, and all they do at Hogwarts is magic. It's like having a kid sit in the corner at a school where he had no use for anything he was learning, couldn't do anything he was learning, and overall didn't need to be there. That would waste the kids time learning stuff he had no use for. The only thing the squib could really use is History of Magic, which proves to be a bore anyway.
Besides, they could easily circumvent the law by imposing admittance tests for every student. Tests involving magic that "squibs" would never be able to pass. Not to say that the laws couldn't possibly apply to a school that the muggle government knows nothing about. There are many other problems with the wizarding world that I really don't want to and don't have the time to tackle like the preposterous laws against the use of magic, etc.
If your a muggle-born or half muggle you may have gone to school till the fifth grade but many students are from wizard families in which they likely did not attend muggle schools.
For Hogwarts, in the books it IS explained that kids that didn't know they had magical powers until they got their letters (like Hermione) are given wizard gold to pay for their textbooks, caldron, robes, and wand. The pet is NOT necessary MatPat.
Also your thing about discrimination and squibs at the end makes no sense MatPat. You literally said what a squib is, a muggle born to wizard parents. You also mentioned how the school doesn't accept muggles. So just because a muggle has wizard parents, he/she should be allowed to attend? No, not really.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it seems that Hogwarts is the only institution of magical learning in the UK, and thus excluding squibs is a HUGE problem. You have these kids who grow up in wizarding culture, but aren't allowed to participate. Why can't they learn subjects like Muggle Studies, History of Magic, Astronomy, etc. which don't appear to use of magic? Why can't a squib utilize muggle devices to do Potions?
Beaux batons or whatever is french but they are elitist twats too and all their students are perfect looking and most likely rich. (french rival school from the 4th book) I have never thought about it this deeply but there could be a whole narrative created about the oppression of squibs. Hagrid is deeply troubled by his squib status and always wanted to be a wizard but elitist fucks like dumbledore probably kept him under their foot. What if Dumbledore knew that the spider wasn't the Slytherin monster and let Hagrid take the blame anyway just to fuck with him? What if harry's squib neighbor is under dumbledore's boot too? (she is, she was told to live there by him to keep an eye on Harry.) How many squibs are leading opressed lives and why do we not hear their stories more?
Woah there. First off, Hagrid's story is specifically told to us in the second story, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, where Hagrid is said NOT to be a squib (as he shows his magical abilities in literally every movie and story) but was expelled for a crime he did not commit. They snapped his wand (what they do every time someone is expelled, it is quite common place) and the headmaster, not Dumbledore, wanted him to leave immediately. Dumbledore actually wanted to keep him there because of his knack with all sorts of different creatures, and it even says in the story that Tom Riddle was annoyed and knew he couldn't open the chamber anymore because Dumbledore suspected him. Dumbledore wasn't even headmaster, only the Transfiguration teacher. He couldn't stop what the headmaster was going to do, when there was so much evidence pointing to Hagrid. Also, it never mentions in the story that Harry's neighbor was a squib, just that she was placed there to keep an eye on Harry. Furthermore, sure, it mentions that squibs aren't allowed, but never says that they lead oppressed lives. By the way, the french people from the fourth book never mention anything about being rich, while being good-looking, sure, but hey, it's fucking MAGIC. As a side note, Dumbledore is beloved by all magical folk and squibs. He even gave a job to Filch, who was a terrible person and of course a squib, but he is always present in the books WITH A JOB. Dumbledore is definitely NOT an "elitist fuck". Therefore, I suggest you fucking READ THE BOOKS AND WATCH THE MOVIES before you come back and show your sorry ass your dumb fucking complaint again and realize all the mistakes you have made.
Hogwarts does give financial aid for equipment to students. This is proved during a flashback where Dumbledore gives Tom Riddle (Voldemort) money for equipment.
harry is a wealth kid with parents.(dursley) herimone get financial help and they can excange muggle money for wizard moeny. and weashley are 7 kids.....and just 1 parent working.
@@60quidplustax76 Um, no. Dumbledore spcifically says that the school has money for students who can't pay. Harry can TOTALLY pay! He has a vault with gold coins just stacked up EVERYWHERE, and just one of those coins is worth a lot of money
You're forgetting that the children go to Hogwarts when they turn 11, they will have had many maths classes in that time, and let's be honest, unless you're thinking of becoming a scientist, a mathematician or a film theorist, we're never going to use high school math
Shannon Nolan I guess the CJ has to have a school, Romans spend around 10 years in the legion and then they can go to New Rome's university so they have to have schools and high schools in the legion or the city too. But yes! The Nome's should be I mean even the 21th guided by two teenagers and the goddess of cats has a sistem for the normal education of the magicians, the other Nome's should have a (even better) sistem too.
@@tinkabouthat8856 true but there's no incentive for squibs do that instead of just going to a non-magical school so there's still no reason for them to attend
Squibs can do muggle studies, arithmancy, care of magical creatures, history of magic and maybe potions. The rest of the classes can be theoretical. Squibs could even grow up to be teachers of theoretical classes like the ones I already mentioned.
@@Heavygamingreal You should be the one learning history kid Manhattan project was named because Manhattan engineer district not fucking manhattan. Los Alamos laboratory is in new Mexico So calm down kid.
Your forgetting that in Harry Potter when Tom Riddle firstly came to Hogwarts Dumbledore paid for his school supplies so sometimes the teachers will pay for the stuff
I seem to recall Xavier rejecting Spider-man from attending solely based on the fact that Spider-man was a mutate, not a mutant, being given his mutation post birth rather than having at birth.
Internet Supervillan but they choose if they want to get muggle jobs or not. And they choose if they want to go to a muggle uni/college. Also, most wizards/witches get magical jobs soo...
Also, MatPat, there's a slight hole in your argument against Hogwarts' illegality of squib discrimination. Hogwarts is a school for magicians, and it teaches Magical subjects, as you yourself stated. It would make absolutely *_zero_* sense for non-magicians of any kind to attend the school, since they wouldn't be able to make use of most of the knowledge they'd acquire.
I do agree, but the squibs can go into classes like history of Hogwarts ,potions and herbology. So there is still an opportunity for squibs to go there. Squibs remind me off exchange students where they can't take some of the classes because they don't have the right qualifications to be there.
they wouldn't be able to make anything of their knowledge. the school is predicated on honing magical ability. no magical ability= failed classes. the only thing a squib would be able to learn is history and maybe, maybe potions
J.K.R. had revealed that the students at Hogwarts either go to normal muggle school and/or they are taught at home by their parents in subjects such as reading, writing, mathematics, and of course the birds and bees.
The problem is really that if something unexpected and magical were to happen to them, like the kind that always happens at hogwarts, they wouldn't be able to do anything about it. Couldn't use magic to get away, alert teachers, stop it from happening, etc. Having non-magical students is a bit of a liability.
To be fair the wizarding governments are not the same as the muggle goverments. The Macusa pre dates the united states and the british ministry of magic seems to still control ireland. Despite ireland also being independent in some way. Atleast to have its own national quiddictch team.
I guess the idea is that people of the magic world including squibs pay taxes that are spent on discriminatory school like Hogwarts, which means that it is highly likely that the wizard world would also have anti -discrimination laws for schools that gets tax funding.
am I the only one who's read Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children and was totally outraged on how far the movie stayed from the books? like, don't get me wrong, the movie by itself was pretty good, but I would've liked them to have at least gotten the characters right.
Joli Blythe omg I feel you. I was so excited to see Emma's character, and then they mixed up her peculiarty! And instead of making multiple movies, they cramped it into one and cut out the second book entirely.
Josefin Liepe nope. they did not. Kinda ruined the entire movie, seeing as that one power lead to a lot of events happening, but nevertheless, they did not.
At Hogwarts, the students go there at age 10-11, which means that they should know the basic things in life, like how to read, know addition, subtraction, division, etc. The should also know the key points in history as well. And beside, when will you ever need to use all that advanced math stuff you learn in middle school and high school? Another thing is that this school just CAN'T physically train muggles. They teach magical things that Squibs just can't learn. Not trying to hate here, I love this channel.
Actually @InfintyMagic you start the September after you turn 11 (so if your birthday is in September, October, November, or December you don't start until the following year - like Sirius Black, Tom Riddle, and Hermione Granger). You must have had your 11th birthday to be admitted. @James M - JKR has said herself that a certain level of magic is required for those subjects. Potions requires some magic in the brewing, Herbology in the growing, etc. This applies to subjects like Arithmancy and Ancient Runes too. Really, the only subjects they could learn would be History of Magic and Muggle Studies - one of which is not strictly useful and the other they could learn better in non-magical society.
Yeh but you need to learn a lot more topics in those subjects covered in high school. So when they came out of the school to find work, they would have the math skills of a ten year old
You only need to learn them if they will help you get a job. The point of school is to teach you skills that will aid you in the workplace. In a wizarding world, magic aids you in that, math doesn't necessarily.
Nyx Darklore But still, even the wizarding world wouldn't want to breed man children that don't know how to use more complicated language and maths above the level of a 11 year old
The thing with Peregrine's is that you only age forward if you leave via the portal you age forward but in the books the kids are able to leave the island and age forward as normal even thought the loop ended (It's very confusing I know)
Why was Harry Potter sent to the office? Because he was cursing in class! ..... You don't get my Harry Potter jokes do you? There must be something RON with you!
Correction MatPat, If the students leave the loop *and * enter the cairn, they will age rapidly and die. However, IF they stay in the loop (and it doesn't reset [the book]) Then the children will age normally.
Yea, plus the fact that Harry Potter series took place in the 90's or even earlier. I don't know when the laws took effect, but I would assume they weren't as strict back then.
Jake Howard did you not read/watch Order of the Phoenix? the ministry interferes with Hogwarts' curriculum because of their financial aid they provide for the tuition costs. from a purely structural standpoint there is little difference between muggle and wizarding governments.
Sky high UA highschool Percy Jackson school for demi gods Monster university Everafter high Monster high Casper monster Naruto ninja academy Blue exorcist highschool Baka and test highschool Winx club highschool RWBY high school (These schools are mainly for the protection training and help people with powers)
Miss Peregrine's isn't a school, really. It's more just a home from kids with powers, hence why it's called Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children.
Having just seen the movie today, I agree. There is no reason to include it here other than it being described as "Harry Potter meets X-Men," which is just capitalizing on current hype.
An 11 year old with a shitty home life up? What if the child's education had been severely neglected? Do they have special ed classes at Hogwarts? Hopefully they do and Harry is just oblivious.
I saw Mrs.peregrine's home for peculiar children, and I definitely wouldn't count it as a school. They kinda just do whatever they want, there's one "faculty", they don't have classes, they do chores for her, they make dinner, etc. It's more like a normal house/"retirement home"/daycare.
+Vjorp , I kinda wish Brakebills College for Magical Pedagogy was given more than a passing mention. Although there's a lot of similarities between it and Hogwarts.
9:35 I'm going to have to disagree with you one this one: some of the instances you cited are only a problem when Harry is there(snake in the plumbing, death eaters, the troll (which had to be let in by the way), and dementors), and apparently 60-ish years prior when Tom opened the chamber the 1st time. all the permanent hazards are easily avoided and well known (how harry didn't know about the tree is beyond me, and the forest is officially of limits)
The forest is off limits? I guess the only exception to that rule is if you’re given detention and have to go in one of the most dangerous place in Hogwarts at night...
but they don't really enforce it a student can easely walk in and there was a door with fluffy behind and you could say it was locked litterly a basic spel can open the door and the dog can easely break it
Yeah, they were in the middle of a WAR, obviously there’s going to be danger. Its not like they’re any safer at home- unless they’re pure blood I guess
When students start attending hogwarts they’re eleven, meaning that most likely they went to some other school before attending hogwarts (like elementary/primary school) in that time they would have been able to learn to read and any mathematic principle that they would actually have to use in life because I surely don’t use quadratics everyday
But Hogwarts was only attacked once, and never again and the other lady’s School was attacked every day, and Xavier’s school puts their student in danger. And Hogwarts teach their students many things other than just controlling their ability
Emily C. Dumbledore wanted to be killed, and he planned it. And the creatures only attack when threatened. And what do you expect from wild creatures. They are wild, not some domestic pets.
@@canweget1ksubswithoutanyvi608 first off, centaurs are probably evolved from humans, or a horse and human did what it took to have a child. Either way, centaurs are just as smart as humans, if not more. second, yes Dumbledore planned to be killed by Snape. However, he did not plan for death eaters to break into the school and endanger his students. Also, you didn't address the fact that there is a giant squid in the lake, a tree that can kill you, a basilisk specifically intended to kill students, (muggle-borns) a three-headed dog, a teacher merged with Lord Voldemort, a teacher that turns into a werewolf, a teacher who was faking being the person who was supposed to teach and turned out to be Lord Voldemorts spy in the school, a contest that managed to get sabotaged by previous teacher, a student dying at the hands of Lord Voldemort because of said sabotage, well.... you get the idea. I'm probably the biggest Harry Potter fan of all time, but even I can't deny that it is very dangerous. Also, GO HUFFLEPUFF.
Through pre-k to 3rd grade u slowly learn addition and subtraction..Then in 3rd grade AFTER U MASTER DAT addition and subtraction U go into multiplication and division more grades though 3 to 4th grade....Then 4th to 5th grade you slowly go onto fractions and MASTER them at the end of the year of 5th grade also mastering multiplication and division and subtraction and addition...Then U go into middle school where they tell you,you have done math wrong lol and get taught a different method Bleh bleh and LEARN ALGEBRA dun dun dunnnnn (I'm in 6th so this is my whole entire life....ever ...lol) And I'm 11 right now turning 12 on may 3rd so
And read! Yeah. I mean, maybe _MatPat_ only learned to read in high school but... from an objective analysis standpoint, he kind of dropped the ball there. :P
Matpat: the single most magical thing about these schools is that you don’t have to pay. Me: *going to school in Denmark we’re taxes pay for everything, and when you get to the higher educations you are even paid to go to school.*
Don't try and say the same laws have to apply to both worlds. The Knight bus should've gotten a couple of speeding tickets by now. Heck the driver shouldn't have a licence
GumgumDookuin well, primarily because Magical Britain has its own government, and last I checked separate governments are under no obligation to use the same laws as others. This pretty much means that Hogwarts has some leeway, and I’m pretty sure they also have a degree of autonomy as a charter school or something.
HP NERD OUT BELOW. You have been warned. There are some basic flaws in your arguments against Hogwarts on two points. First, Hogwarts has a fund for students who can't pay for their supplies, as explained by Dumbledore to Tom Riddle in the 6th book. I think it works like any financial aid plan would in the muggle world. Second, the fact that squibs can't go to Hogwarts is a matter of practicality and safety rather than discrimination. Though heavily based in discrimination because of the cultural bias against them, it is the best option for them to go to muggle schools (weirdly no one's yet had the bright idea to open a school specifically for children born into the wizarding world without magic, idk why) because they don't need magic for the curriculum, whereas in Hogwarts, the entire curriculum would be impassable.
Fellow Potterhead here. There is no need for any particular shool for squibs as muggle shools already provide that on their own. And as there sure is the discrimination to them I believe they serve as great, shall we say, ambassadors(?), links for the magical community to have in the muggle society. If something magical or illegal happens, they may very well be the ones to alert the Ministry.
Yeah but how many Squibs actually attend Muggle school? If their families really are that prejudiced against Muggles then they probably won't want their Squib child to associate with Muggles, even if they think their child is dirt on their shoe. Just look at Filch. If he'd gotten a Muggle education, would he be hanging around Hogwarts all bitter like?
I don't think you can complain about Hogwarts and Miss Peregrine's Home not accepting squibs onpeculiars. The whole point of these faculties is to educate or protect wizards\peculiars. That's like whining about two-year-olds not being accepted to Harvard.
As if X men doesnt have an issue of people disliking them? all of them are just a bunch of extraordinary people who. in fact wants to live like a normal people. in Harry potter they teach magical kids to learn how to control it. while they cant accept squibs who literally are just normal people. while in perigines they are just in a time loop. just like x men they have extraordinary abilities in which they want to hide or control it. while in xmen is. well just like perigines' children. they learn. they study they control their powers and the most common of x men movies is acceptance of normal people. like???? ?????
Schools should follow a standardized curriculum. It's like if your school had decided to only teach math and nothing else. A person who can't do magic should still learn about it, living in a magical world. I bet even Neville would have chosen to have some theoretical magic classes instead of practical.
VisseNekku Everyone who goes to hogwarts is at least 11. They are in middle school. They know how to read write do basic math even prealgebra. Hogwarts doesn’t just pick you up off the street uneducated. Neville wouldn’t choose theoretical classes either. He chose based off what his family wanted. They know more than you’re making it out to be. You also don’t have to learn about the magical world as a squib. You are the offspring of WIZARDS. You are literally living in the magical world all the time. Learn as you go like a normal human being.
X Men and Harry Potter Universe: You just have to be born special to get into Hogwarts or the X Men School for Gifter Youngsters U.A High in My Hero Academia: - Has a 0.01% acceptance rate - You have to take a written and a practical exam in order to get 1 of the 36 places in the Hero course. So you and HUNDREDS of other people are competing for those spots - Even if tou don't get in, there are many other Hero schools you can apply for - The practical exam involves destroying as military-grade robots robots as you can.
Rasbipac the thing is, during your first and second years of Hogwarts, there are a list of required classes you must take: Potions, DADA, Transfiguration, Charms, History of Magic, and Astronomy. These are core classes that every student is required to take every year. Once you get to your third year, you are allowed to take two Elective classes (or in Hermione's case, all of them), which are your Muggles Studies and Arithmency and Frog Choir. The issue for Squibs is that they have to get through their first two years successfully, passing their exams for all six required classes, with only having the ability to actually learn the curriculum in two of them.
Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters TIES with Hogwarts, so HOW do they come out on top? Also, The Wizarding World pretty much ignores the Muggle world, so the Muggle Government, and its' agencies, would have no jurisdiction over Hogwarts.
they tie, but because of their failure (assuming his logic on the last one is correct, which I don't personally think, but that's a whole other argument) hogwarts is flat out illegal, and therefore xavier's wins by default, as hogwarts would be disqualified.
they don't accept squibs because not only could they not take half the courses but the entire Wizarding world discriminates against them so they wouldn't even get a proper job in the Wizarding world
but if im a wizard and decide i want to bake for a living, well i can go down buy a new shop kneed some dough and magic me up some fire, but if im a mutant with let's say fire powers and i want to bake FUCK YOU. if i try setting up a bakery in say new york well at some point some one is going to find out. The only mutants that gets away with being in normal society post first class include a mutant whose power is perfect mimicry and a mutant who is centuries old and almost always entirely off the grid.
7:25 Actually, Cyclops is a master of trig and geometry, being able to bounce his optic blasts (they are *not* lasers) all over a room before hitting is actual target and doing no damage to his allies.
Seriously, Mat? I've never read the Harry Potter books or seen the movies, but even I know they can read! They can probably read better than most kids what with all the Latin (sort of). Considering the students are accepted into the school at age twelve (I think), they would probably also know basic math, if only to do potions (which I would assume is similar enough to cooking and *that* requires some math). Admittedly, I'd think the students should probably get a little more math than just Grade 6, but considering how much people forget from the grades after that, maybe they'll be fine.
Ok just going to state this probably never going to be seen but Hogwarts is founded by the ministry of magic and is located somewhere in the UK however, the lives of Wizards and kind are governed by the Ministry of Magic a separate governmental agency then the UK. Thus they are not limited to the laws of the UK. By that logic the entire wizarding world is breaking the law on at least tax evasion.
In fairness do we know wizards don't pay tax to the UK government when it applies to them? Perhaps a chunk of the tax they to the ministry gets given to the UK government?
Kids at Hogwarts will already know how to read, write and do math because they have until they are 11 to learn basic skills like reading and writing which won't be as necessary in the wording world.
exactly! most of them (especially muggle born) have already went to normal school at least once, so they would already know how to read and write? also, even if they were born into a family like Ron's where they don't know much about muggles, they would have been already taught to read and write, but probably not math. they would still know how!
Blob Ugi Maybe they read and write but they aren't really good at maths, 'cause come on, they are in 4th or 5th grade! In Xavier's school for gifted youngsters is different
Jackson Furlong Not to mention that you do not start attending Hogwarts until you are eleven. The parents probably teach their children how to read, or with cases like Harry's they attend Muggle school until they are eleven.
I thought the "what's a CD?" Thing was a little exaggerated. Even little kids these days still get dvds of their favourite family friendly shows. And it's not like CD's aren't sold in stores anymore or anything
They may not have the same laws in the harry potters universe, but this is they were theoretically in our world and we know about them. It would be unfair to let hogwarts stay hidden to the world while everyone knows about professor x’s school.
Bluejay Warrior even if they were in our world and we knew about them Hogwarts exists tight next to a completely wizard community (hogsmead) so it's not getting surrounded by the government anytime soon.plus I think even if we knew about the wizard I think they would still continue to have the same laws
Arham Shahid I have to disagree with you. The UK would definitely attempt to get the wizard community to abide by their laws. If the community chooses not to then we’d have a feud between the UK and wizards, making it even harder for normal people, like you and me, to get into Hogwarts. Don’t forget this is in the real world where the odds of us being wizards are very little.
Harry Potter: My parents died and left me an enormous fortune, and now I'm left with a mean set of guardians. Baudelaires (A Series of Unfortunate Events): I know what you mean.
Charlton Christian Of course Miss Peregrine teach the children but the problem is that it is a secret home for peculiar children. She needs to teach them because they can't learn with other people in the outside world. Does my home count as a school just because my mom teached me how to speak? I don't think so. That is not a good reason.
Hogwarts, Hogwarts, Hoggy Warty Hogwarts, Teach us something please, Whether we be old and bald Or young with scabby knees, Our heads could do with filling With some interesting stuff, For now they’re bare and full of air, Dead flies and bits of fluff, So teach us things worth knowing, Bring back what we’ve forgot, Just do your best, we’ll do the rest, And learn until our brains all rot.
Oh you may not think I'm pretty, But don't judge on what you see, I'll eat myself if you can find A smarter hat than me. You can keep your bowlers black, Your top hats sleek and tall, For I'm the Hogwarts Sorting Hat And I can cap them all. There's nothing hidden in your head The Sorting Hat can't see, So try me on and I will tell you Where you ought to be. You might belong in *Gryffindor* , Where dwell the brave at heart, Their daring, nerve, and chivalry Set Gryffindors apart; You might belong in *Hufflepuff* , Where they are just and loyal, Those patient Hufflepuffs are true And unafraid of toil; Or yet in wise old *Ravenclaw* , if you've a ready mind, Where those of wit and learning, Will always find their kind; Or perhaps in *Slytherin* , You'll make your real friends, Those cunning folks use any means To achieve their ends. So put me on! Don't be afraid! And don't get in a flap! You're in safe hands (though I have none) For I'm a Thinking Cap!
I wouldn't call Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar children a school, more like a foster home. Definitely an underrated book series.
It's better than harry potter
@@GutsPsn i mean harry potter makes more sense but ok
@@yoda2495 I don't actually hate Harry Potter, but no Peculiar Children Makes Just about equal sense.
Exactly!
I love the books
Hogwarts doesn't need a security system. They have Snape.
*You can't escape Snape*
Yeah
Lauren Cat you can’t esnape snape
You can’t ESNAPE Snape
Tijn Nikkels I said that
You people are amazing
Miss Peregrine's is not a school it is a shelter, if the "children" were to leave they would die in about 3 days.
even though in the second and third book they say fuck it and leave and for some reason in the third book there is that bullshit ending where they can leave and survive and end up with the main character living with him
thank you! the ending didn't make any sense
Spoiler alert?
It is also a school miss peregrine is also a teacher
That's because they were present in the collapsing loop while escaping from caul. It was a side effect. There was the good side effect, in which it restores the children's youth and the bad side effect from the failed experiment explained in the first book that turned caul and his followers into hollows.
Ms. Peregrines Home is an orphanage and shelter first and a school second, so it is at an unfair disadvantage.
It's like homeschooling without any curriculum.
I mean, yeah, it’s stuck in a time loop during WW2, so I’d assume life’s a little rough on the inside
"harry's lucky enough to have two dead parents!"
i- there's a sentence I never thought id hear
Yeah
In truth, he's just lucky that his parents were rich. Otherwise there won't be any vault for Harry to go to.
Orphan with two dead parents who left him a sh!t ton of money!? Harry Potter is Wizard Batman!
"Welcome to Xavier's Hogwarts for Peculiar Children !"
Lol yes
XD
for Peculiar Mutant-Wizards
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Or Mutant Peculiar wizards
Before Hogwarts most young witches and wizards are homeschooled also muggleborn students attend normal school
Yeah true
Half bloods usually attend normal school too
Chicken Ella Yeah, and it’s clearly shown they know how to read, write and do basic math because they’re all fine at handling money (Wizarding at least) and of course they can read and write because they write essays and there’s a huge library. Matpat really didn’t think that one through.
@@juliannaelwell super early film theory. He had a lot to learn back then. ALso he's not a super fan like the rest of us.
@@Ndasuunye He was also talking about the specific school and what they teach and how it works rather than talkng about the students' current or past knowledge or education. Like, sure, they may learn this stuff before Hogwarts, therefore knowing how to do it, but the point is that Hogwarts itself doesn't seem to help with that.
Film Theory: Hogwarts 'you have to pay for everything'
Book nerds: But actually Voldemort got a money from dumbeldore to get stuff from Diagon Alley
Woooah Hogawarts wins babyy
I was actually thinking about that! Glad you got to it though!
Actually, at the time, he would be tom riddle
that's what I was going to say!
Well, the ministry of magic would have given the money like 50 years before
Of _course_ they can read. There's like five books per class, per year. And those books are _huge_.
Oh, my god. You actually _talk about the books_ and you _still_ say they can't read. MORON!
There's a difference between the reading ability you naturally have and the reading ability you get from a classroom.
Upon graduation, Hogworts students will be less capable readers than their muggle counterparts.
That's the point.
We can't know if that's the point or not. All he said was that they can't read. And given the number of people I knew who could barely read in high school, and the sheer vastness of reading Hogwarts' students would be required to do in and out of the classroom would make it, if anything, the inverse of what you said. And how much does reading ability really increase in class, anyway? It's not like they have classes specifically _for_ it. Reading ability increases with use. The more you read, the more quickly you'll be able to and the more words you'll pick up as you go. If you want to pass your OWLs and NEWTs, you are going to be doing a _lot_ of reading. Especially if you want to get a good grade, up to and including an Outstanding.
peytongonavy it's called reading comprehension but yes that's basically the point
Probably why illiteracy is skyrocketing. Fewer and fewer people are reading for pleasure.
The anti discrimination issue, while important, is not illegal. The wizarding world is not subject to the rules of the human governments, solely the wizarding governments.
"While important?" You are aware that the school doesn't actually exist, right? How would fake (and utterly justified) discrimination be important lol.
The entire premise of this is that these are real, I am simply operating within it.
Gonna have to disagree on that one. The "wizarding world" isnt located somewhere thats completely inaccessible to humans, AND the ministry uses magic to basically keep them from noticing magical happenings and locations (which seems kinda morally grey, but whatever). So how would one explain flying cars/dragons/death eaters/dark lords and all the other magical stuff if they were used to destroy or infringe upon the rest of the world? How would accountability hold up? The bridge incident is a good example.
Daniel Walton The Muggle Prime Minister is in contact with the Minister of Magic. Hogwarts may be subject to some Muggle laws.
I agree if the muggle government gave them money then the anti discrimination law would be in effect. but since it answers to the ministry of magic it is controlled by their laws. as proof the ministry has betted in multiple times to make changes to the professors among other things.
Mrs. Weasley bought the her whole family's resources for school for only one galleon, which is equivalent to $7.35 USD.
Considering that in book 3 Harry buys some hot chocolate for 2 sickles and that the price of a hot chocolate is about 3-4 dollars, that would mean a sickle is worth $1.50-2 dollars. And since there are 17 sickles to a galleon, that would mean that a galleon is worth about 25-35 dollars. Still pretty impressively frugal.
@@meerkatman2289 There are conversions for wizard money, which makes the wizarding world one of the cheapest places in the world
Edit: The hot chocolate costed $0.70
@@foop2954 hot chocolate DOES NOT cost $0.70
MeerkatMan22 In the wizarding world it costs 70 cents. That’s with the true conversion rate of 2 sickles
@@foop2954 ridiculous
Matpat: They cant read and have never taken a math class!
Me: You go to Hogwarts at the age of 11, not the age of 3.
Yeah but that's it! No advance academic curriculum.
yeah its cannon that harry went to school until he met hagrid
@@salmakhairiaalang3466 you learn enough at like 5th grade and at 11 kids are somewhat more mature
Kids in the wizarding world are homeschooled to read and write and basic maths, they don't need algebra, they are _wizards_
@@pillowprincess3673 no one needs algebra, it's algebra
When the school with the best teachers has DOLORES UMBRIDGE...
no but seriously, u r safe in hogwats until u befriend harry
@@asmiaryal3942 I mean... yeah, that sounds right.
and gilderoy lockhart lmao
@@asmiaryal3942 me:having a nice day in hogwarts
Harry Potter:hi!
Me:guess I’ll die
@@Knight_Dragon lmao!! goodday
Even if squibs were allowed at Hogwarts, they wouldn’t be able to do anything as all lessons require students to use magic to some extent.
Kartik Rawlani what about potion making? Seems like a muggle should be able to make use of magic Ingredients just fine
@@AJSSPACEPLACE Apparently even the most basic of potions require some wand work,so squibs wouldn't even be able to do that.
Which is why MatPat"s point makes sense.
It would be cool if they did let some squibs into the school. Even though they can't do magic, they would be excellent in subjects such as Muggle Studies, Astronomy and even help out in subjects that do require magic. They could learn every spell by heart and be ready to tell their peers what to do in case of an emergency. They could collect and add all of the potion ingredients into the potion and just let the witch or wizard do the wandwork. There are people in the muggle world trying to do divination, so it would be very interesting to see squibs try to do divination. History of Magic would be a great subject that they may excel at as well. While they would not be able to defend themselves in case of a battle, squibs could be amazing at doing physical fighting and could teach Hogwarts students physical defences like karate.
This could be an amazing fanfic.
That's literally slavery.
Wolverine is the best history teacher he has first hand experience
Cyclops was right
Why
@@ai6896 He fought in almost every american war and was born in the 1800's do I need any other reason
@@erez2111 no I just don't watch movies
@Karsyn zzstu Beauchamp lets be honest that part has always been a little shaky on what of that he does remember
I would like to point out that in the letter every hogwarts student gets, it’s only stated that students may bring a pet if they wish. They are most certainly not required
It isn't a requirement? I legitimately remember hearing about it being a requirement...
@@matthewsimon6170 no but the there was a requirement on the types of pets, could only be a cat or a toad or an owl I think
@@johnstuart7952 What about Scabbers?
It was toad owl or rat I love Harry Potter @@deviousangel336
What do you call someone who did the deed with Voldemort?
"She did the do with you know who"
Kitteny14 IM DO DONE😂
Kitteny14 Lmao
Blalatrix strange thats what you call her
Belletrix did the do with you know who
Kitteny14 have you read harry potter and the cursed child
your argument about discrimination was based on muggle law
Yes in an evaluation based on a muggle school rating system. Your point being?
That doesn't make it right. They could still have courses for humans who wish to help out the magic world. They could act as messengers and experts on muggle culture. This is only if the have at least one magic parent or relative or course. You wouldn't want people to freak out and expose them.
what would happen if they did expose them though?
"the wizzard school won't let me in!"
"Oh, he's a kid, don't listen to him!"
or
"he's crazy, lock him up."
No. No you couldn't. My brother can't bring rice crispy squares to school because several of his classmates are poor and can't afford treats. To "protect them" and "not fester unfairness". How would a kids self esteem be if he was surrounded by MAGIC USERS WHO CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
well, Hogwarts is a school to teach magic techniques for people who CAN use magic... it's like trying to teach arm wrestling for people without arms... that's not discrimination on their part
My friend is obsessed with the MPHFPC series, and she's also an actor. She was hired as an extra for the movie, but they might not use her in the final production. Can I get some good lucks to her?🍀🍀
Make sure she sneaks in a middle finger to the audience.
I hope she breaks a leg. AND its called Actress....dont get all PC
What do they think of the movie? It looks entirely different from the books.
i wish i was in that movie i love the books good luck
Carla stevens good luck
I love how majority of this comment section are just Potter fans pointing out to Matpat that the school is actually very affordable, the Wizarding logic and MoM, and everything else he didn't do a deep dive in
*I guess that Moral of the story here is just that most Harry Potter fans expect you to have read the books twice or thrice, studied the Rowling interviews, and seen the Pottermore confirmations before making a Potter theory*
Well, to be fair he did quote JK Rowling herself, so if he was able to get confirmation on something from that, he should be able to confirm information based on books (vide fund support for school expences).
Especially considering that he also managed to confirm a point for Xavier's school rummaging through comic issues.
I have read 4 of the books 10 times, 1 of the books 9 times and 2 of them 11 times. I have also watched half of the movies.
This is MULTI MILLION SUBSCRIBER RUclips channel with a whole team of researcher. And that is like the most basic fact imaginabke. The only reason he says it is because it starts drama, giving him more views and money. And no matter what people say, he will never agnolish it, respond or anything. And he will continu, and he will be succesfull
@@ProfessorPrel this was 5 years ago he didn’t have a team then I’m pretty sure.
@@yetekt6953 1: He had like 5 million subscribers at the time and Even more at game theory, I remember, because it was at about this time I first discovered the channel, so he certantly had at least some help.
2: Its not like you have to dig deep to Get this information. In fact, it is never stated that the ministry doesnt have a law against discrimination, but it is common sense if he had just read a Pottermore article or the harry Potter wiki page, they make it very clear that the ministey has nothing to do with the mugge world or their laws
Why did you assume that The Ministry of Magic would have the same laws as the British government?
Zach Brannigan Because he’s judging this following the princeton review, not the law for the specific franchise he’s talking about
Because it's just a theory, a film theory!
The muggle laws wouldn't necessarily apply to the magic world
Zach Brannigan because it looks like its in Britain?
They r totally separate societies within Britain
why would the ministry of magic function on muggle rules?
thats what i said
precisely
The Ministry of magic is effectively a private business, as such getting funding from it does not qualify as government funding. The tax money would legally be treated as a membership fee.
exactly. what is the government going to do.
Collecting taxes from the Ministry I'd assume.
To be fair in Harry Potter they have to go to primary school before they go to hogwarts so they will know SOME things from the muggle world but they might forget it :/
But most don't.
Only if you're muggle-born. Most young wizards are just homeschooled for that time
All children would either go to a primary school or get homeschooled by parents. They can read and write before they arrive.
Exactly. So I should have gotten another point.
Ron didn’t go and we don’t know if Hermione did
"Do schools still use laserdiscs?"
We still use cassette tapes and Windows 7. We're not allowed to use Chrome, only Internet Explorer. It's like our school is stuck in a time loop in 2004.
Lol That was my old school but we were stuck in 2010.
Is there a reason?
@@zxyAprte124 Boomer teachers that don't understand what they're talking about
Same
@@10tailedbijuu right but their job is to prepare us for the future, and they've had the same lesson plan for 70 years
where's Camp Half Blood at?
Long Island, Are you a demigod? If so, who's your godly parent? Are you Greek or Latin?
wow
Abby Tran I'm uh Latin
Vulcan with Mars along the lines...
yup
DID YOU EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO PERCY JACKSON(It's New York by the way
Diego Duque de Estrada nope. Long Island
I mean, the wizarding world has its own Government and Laws. Presumably discriminating against squibs is legal within their legal system, which is the same legal system Hogwarts gets taxes from
Thanks god, someone with a brain
Not to mention, why would someone who cannot do magic be admitted to a school which requires you to have the ability to do magic? That makes no sense!
but is discriminating squibs allowed in their legal system?
if so, sucks to be them...
the thing is, squibs also pays taxes, if the school is funded by the government , there shouldn't be any such thing as magical and non magical kid
both have parents that pays taxes, both are the same
but this is if the magic world or whatever it's called follow the same rules as real world
Delta X s.
The only reason why they're discriminated against attending Hogwarts is likely just cause they couldn't possibly pass any spell casting classes. Same logic as someone with low grade average not being able to attend Harvard.
I think the fact that squibs are literally incapable of performing magic making them not allowed to go to a MAGIC based school makes perfect sense.
if they were allowed "everyone raises there wands and make the feather float except you bob go cry in the corner"
You could still be educated on magical theory
@@disgustof-riley8338 I feel like that would be like trying to teach somebody with no arms how to use the Wii Remote Strap. However, I do feel like Squibs could be taught about potions and how to make them.
Edit: I am now aware of the fact that potions require spells to work. While I would suggest partnering up with a wizard that actually does the spells, that would likely just overcomplicate things. As such, I don't really have any ideas.
they could still learn things in certains subjects though: Potions, Herbology, Astronomy, Care for Magical Creatures, Muggle Studies or History of Magic can all be used and applied by Squibs...
@@zoe1482 why would they need those classes if they can't easily work for the magical community. It's more practical long-term for them to spend their time learning in muggle schools
Matpat: Xaviers School for Gifted Youngsters win
Harry Potter fan base: My father will hear about this!
It was actually a tie. Matpat is lying. The score was 3-3.
But the final score was
Hogwarts: 3
Peculiar:1
X-men:3
So it's basically a tie...
WHICH ONE IS BETTER MATPAT? WE NEED TO KNOW!
Technically since you HAVE to be a wizard, or have a peculiar soul for two of the three X-men wins because they don't turn you away if you aren't a mutant.
Hogwarts and Peculiar were disclassified, so Xavier's one is the winner.
X-Men wins because Hogwarts is breaking the law.
But we dont know the Ministry's laws about discrimination for squibs
Rage Gaming #squiblivesmatter
I think Miss Peregrine's is more a foster home, or orphanage and not so much a school indeed.
Yup!
Yup!
Hi Hermione, can I be Ron? XD
Hey Hermione, Wanna hear a joke? (yes) What did the ocean say to the other ocean? It said nothing! It just *waved*
It's a foster home for children who have powers and the books are way better than the film
Mrs. Peregreen's isn't really a school it's more of an orphan house
Exactly what I was thinking
Yeah
i agree with you Snarffarl
Peregrine's*
But it is also where they do their learning
It’s called “Miss Peregrine HOME for peculiar children” not school they don’t even Learn stuff they just live in there loop
Edit:This is the most likes I ever got and it’s a JOKE HAHAHA OH SH*T i played those mad people your literally right 😂
YES! EXACTLY!
Don't they do school in there loop?
Yes and No, The children do live there, and yes by the time Jacob comes it's been 70 years since the loop was made, that's enough to get from Kindergarten to College , not to mention some of the kids are old enough like Millard, Enoch, Emma, Bronwyn, Hugh, and Fiona, (BOOK VERSION), that's why they're barely learning anything,maybe some stuff about peculiars here and there but still, also they probably didnt teach some stuff to the young ones because they stayed young
Ok I is udjj
They do, in the book a classroom and classes are referenced
Hogwarts has an account for students that can't buy stuff, it is mentioned in the 6th book, when Dumbledore is talking to kid Voldemort, because Voldy was an orphan without money.
I think you mean the 6th book, Dumbledore was dead by the 7th book.
Sarah It's only mentioned in the book, Dumbledore wasn't actually alive in the book but it was a flashback to when Voldy was a kid and Dumbledore was still alive.
It was a scene in the Pensieve in the 6th book, during one of Dumbledore's private lessons with Harry about Voldemort's past.
The W/L Superhero. yes I know it was in Dumbledore's lessons using his memories in the pensive, in the 7th book he was dead and Harry didn't have any access to the pensive or Dumbledore's memories, hence my comment.
He actually did have access to the pensieve, otherwise Harry wouldn't have been able to see all of Snape's memories.
"Hogwarts' faculty are all actual professors and fully specialized in their subject"
Lockhart: are you sure about that
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGH TOO!
Umbrige: Hem Hem, none of the proffesers would pass ministry exames and I torchor students.
Trolony: Harry, you're going to die and I prodict a student's death every year.
Snape: I used to be a death eater and favor my house and hate a student because his father was mean.
Hagrid: I didn't finish school because I was framed for murder and keep monsters as pets.
Hagrid: "He was the *only* man for the job"
@@bvq330 he didn't become a werewolf
he was just an incompetent liar
@@bvq330 RASIST JERK
So Hogwarts loses the point because it doesn't accept Students... _that can't be taught?_
Muggles literally *can't* be taught at Hogwarts, Potions need to be stirred with Wands, most classes require the use of Spells, Muggles physically cannot do that. It's like teaching a Blind Person how to drive, it's literally impossible.
But, the thing is, it isn't. It's in book 2 I believe, Harry is brought into Filch' office. On the desk, there is a letter describing a magic learning course for squibs. If it can be used by squibs, why couldn't it be used by muggles? After all, there must be at least a recessive gene for magic, other wise there would be no muggleborns/halfbloods. A squib is born of magical parents, while having no magic to say of their own. That means that the magical gene is still there, and were a squib to have a child, that pases on the gene, with the same 50/50 chance tto be able to go to Hogwarts, the same on the squib parent had.
It's okay, matpat can't add and X-men and Hogwarts tied.
+Hallie Holme The Kwikspell course wasn't meant for squibs, though. In the letter it shows two reviews from a witch and wizard praising the course, and neither of them were squibs, they were simply poor with magic. The witch says that she can't remember incantations, and that her potions suck. The wizard says that his charms are feeble. And obviously Filch has no luck with the courses, so the Kwikspell thing clearly only works for sub-par wizards/witches. In other words, muggles and squibs can't be taught magic, for they don't have any magical power.
This idea is also touched upon in the seventh book when the Death Eater regime rounds up muggle-borns, claiming that they are muggles who have stolen magical abilities from actual wizards and witches, which they know is impossible. "If you could steal magic, there wouldn't be any muggles or squibs, would there?"
On the subject of squibs and muggle-borns, squibs are rare, while muggle-borns are much more common. Dumbledore's notes on The Tale's of Beedle the Bard tell us that there is a theory that muggle-borns exist because they have a magical ancestor. That being said, if this theory is true (which I think it is, because it makes no sense for a muggle to give birth to a wizard for no reason), then for a muggle-born to be created, they would have to have an ancestor who was a squib. That squib ancestor would have to have become a member of muggle society, had children with a muggle, and those children were non-magical, but still inherited the magic gene. That gene would then be passed down continuously until it resurfaced generations later, creating a "muggle-born". Since muggle-borns are common, while squibs are not, it must also be common for squibs to give birth to non-magical children, which would explain the abundance of muggle-borns. If a squib were just as likely to produce magical children as a witch or wizard, there would basically be no muggle-borns.
i saw it
Luke - Ario Not even Toph could drive a car
Cyclops actually can teach geometry. In the comics he needs a deep understanding of it to control his power exceptionally
@@10tailedbijuu probably just that his mask limits his vision
He said cyclops has no depth perception and while true for actual cyclops, the x-man cyclops does have two eyes. The name just comes from the visor he uses to control his powers
@@tomduckworth6430 doesn't his powers make his sight a little wonky I know the visor makes his vision red but I always assumed the powers made it hard for him to really see well
Not only that but he's also a master's level genious with physics and at least a bachelor's in mechanical enginering, which is how he's able to not only make and alter the vizor he uses for his powers but is capable of reflecting, bouncing, and adjusting the beam through/off of various surfaces.
@@10tailedbijuu well he must be legally blind....2/10 of all his missions he damages a ton of stuff he's not aiming for
I'm an avid fan of the Peculiar series, though I hate hate HATE the movie. It's amazing in it's own way, yes, but as a person who's read the books, it just makes my eyes water. Peculiar ability swapping aside, I loved the fact they added the Twins, and how they imagined Miss Peregrine without her mask. It would have been super had they followed the proper plot.
Gen DaLemon finally someone said it
I've read the graphic novel and did they change Emma's peculiar?
Brianna Jorgenson she doesn’t fly, she’s as light as air.
I totally agree. I saw the movie first and then read the books a few years later, but the fact that they changed the plot in the movie still makes me really salty
I Am Trash same, they could’ve just made multiple movies and still copy the plot
"do you really think Cyclops is qualified to teach geography? He doesn't even have depth perception!"
MatPat, the ministry has to have a law that allows public wizard schools to reject squibs. If they had to have squibs there, then what would they learn? They can't do magic, and all they do at Hogwarts is magic. It's like having a kid sit in the corner at a school where he had no use for anything he was learning, couldn't do anything he was learning, and overall didn't need to be there. That would waste the kids time learning stuff he had no use for. The only thing the squib could really use is History of Magic, which proves to be a bore anyway.
And who said that the Ministry of Magic enforces all the same laws the muggle world does?
Thank you!
Besides, they could easily circumvent the law by imposing admittance tests for every student. Tests involving magic that "squibs" would never be able to pass. Not to say that the laws couldn't possibly apply to a school that the muggle government knows nothing about. There are many other problems with the wizarding world that I really don't want to and don't have the time to tackle like the preposterous laws against the use of magic, etc.
Real people learn real useless subjects, and get real useless expensive degrees, all the time.
These assumptions happen all the time... sometimes it doesn't work, like here for instance... other times, it's not too bad
Harry is lucky enough to have 2 dead parents
Me: Hold up
Who left him with a cavern full of gold to pay his bills.
Me: oh-
No math? I'm sorry, in Hogwarts, you keep going to school until 5th grade. That's about as much as you need in the wizarding world
Also, at 13:16, it's not the Parliament. As you said, they receive money from the _Ministry of Magic_. There is a difference there.
If your a muggle-born or half muggle you may have gone to school till the fifth grade but many students are from wizard families in which they likely did not attend muggle schools.
There are 29 knuts to a sickel and 17 sickels to a galleon. Hogwarts students need all the math they can get.
Ernest Izdebski I thought it was from like 5th to 10th?
Also Arithmancy
For Hogwarts, in the books it IS explained that kids that didn't know they had magical powers until they got their letters (like Hermione) are given wizard gold to pay for their textbooks, caldron, robes, and wand. The pet is NOT necessary MatPat.
Also your thing about discrimination and squibs at the end makes no sense MatPat. You literally said what a squib is, a muggle born to wizard parents. You also mentioned how the school doesn't accept muggles. So just because a muggle has wizard parents, he/she should be allowed to attend? No, not really.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it seems that Hogwarts is the only institution of magical learning in the UK, and thus excluding squibs is a HUGE problem. You have these kids who grow up in wizarding culture, but aren't allowed to participate. Why can't they learn subjects like Muggle Studies, History of Magic, Astronomy, etc. which don't appear to use of magic? Why can't a squib utilize muggle devices to do Potions?
Beaux batons or whatever is french but they are elitist twats too and all their students are perfect looking and most likely rich. (french rival school from the 4th book) I have never thought about it this deeply but there could be a whole narrative created about the oppression of squibs. Hagrid is deeply troubled by his squib status and always wanted to be a wizard but elitist fucks like dumbledore probably kept him under their foot. What if Dumbledore knew that the spider wasn't the Slytherin monster and let Hagrid take the blame anyway just to fuck with him? What if harry's squib neighbor is under dumbledore's boot too? (she is, she was told to live there by him to keep an eye on Harry.) How many squibs are leading opressed lives and why do we not hear their stories more?
in the first book, hermione's parents were exchanging muggle money for gold at gringotts to pay for her shcool supplies
Woah there. First off, Hagrid's story is specifically told to us in the second story, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, where Hagrid is said NOT to be a squib (as he shows his magical abilities in literally every movie and story) but was expelled for a crime he did not commit. They snapped his wand (what they do every time someone is expelled, it is quite common place) and the headmaster, not Dumbledore, wanted him to leave immediately. Dumbledore actually wanted to keep him there because of his knack with all sorts of different creatures, and it even says in the story that Tom Riddle was annoyed and knew he couldn't open the chamber anymore because Dumbledore suspected him. Dumbledore wasn't even headmaster, only the Transfiguration teacher. He couldn't stop what the headmaster was going to do, when there was so much evidence pointing to Hagrid. Also, it never mentions in the story that Harry's neighbor was a squib, just that she was placed there to keep an eye on Harry. Furthermore, sure, it mentions that squibs aren't allowed, but never says that they lead oppressed lives. By the way, the french people from the fourth book never mention anything about being rich, while being good-looking, sure, but hey, it's fucking MAGIC. As a side note, Dumbledore is beloved by all magical folk and squibs. He even gave a job to Filch, who was a terrible person and of course a squib, but he is always present in the books WITH A JOB. Dumbledore is definitely NOT an "elitist fuck". Therefore, I suggest you fucking READ THE BOOKS AND WATCH THE MOVIES before you come back and show your sorry ass your dumb fucking complaint again and realize all the mistakes you have made.
Hogwarts does give financial aid for equipment to students. This is proved during a flashback where Dumbledore gives Tom Riddle (Voldemort) money for equipment.
Luca Vicisano FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT!
Actually, that was a special thing DumbleDoor did for that guy you shouldn't talk about..
Harry had to pay for his equipment
(Yes, I Know)
harry is a wealth kid with parents.(dursley) herimone get financial help and they can excange muggle money for wizard moeny. and weashley are 7 kids.....and just 1 parent working.
@@60quidplustax76 Um, no. Dumbledore spcifically says that the school has money for students who can't pay. Harry can TOTALLY pay! He has a vault with gold coins just stacked up EVERYWHERE, and just one of those coins is worth a lot of money
Thats more of private financing from a personal donor than a scholarship
That one scene where Miss P takes a step back, spreads her arms, and like flippity flips into a bird is pretty awesome.
"Red hair, and a hand-me-down robe. You must be a Weasley."
I hate u draco malfoy
@@Hollow_Apollo_ naw I'm Hufflepuff I won't hurt you. I just love that quote.
RED ROBE AND HAND-ME-DOWN HAIR
@@Hollow_Apollo_ I agree, If I saw the actor who played him I couldn't help myself and would punch him
@Dylan Dess wtf? Ian mckellen is in lotr??
You're forgetting that the children go to Hogwarts when they turn 11, they will have had many maths classes in that time, and let's be honest, unless you're thinking of becoming a scientist, a mathematician or a film theorist, we're never going to use high school math
But what about the wizard born kids? would they have gone to muggle primary school, probably not
DalekEmperor 221B they're homeschooled! And I'd imagine they have pureblood primary schools somewhere
i will
exactly
Matpat: Xavier's School won
Harry Potter fans: Objection!
Thats me
Lol 😂 same
Me 😂
surprised pikachu face
this is the 34th floor
Miss peregrines home for peculiar children is...
NOT A BLOODY SCHOOL, A HOME TO KEEP THEM SAFE
John Manduci I agree (it's called Miss Peregrine's HOME for peculiar children)
John Manduci if that counted why didnt camp-half blood or camp jupiter count
John Manduci EXACTLY
ms peregrine herself calls it a school
it seems more like an orphanage for strang people .
Camp half blood should be included.
Or at least Camp Jupiter
or a Nome
nome if any of these
Shannon Nolan I guess the CJ has to have a school, Romans spend around 10 years in the legion and then they can go to New Rome's university so they have to have schools and high schools in the legion or the city too. But yes! The Nome's should be I mean even the 21th guided by two teenagers and the goddess of cats has a sistem for the normal education of the magicians, the other Nome's should have a (even better) sistem too.
It isn't a school (like Mrs peregrines)
It’s kinda obvious a squib can’t enter Hogwarts cAuse they wouldn’t be able to keep up in the classes due to no magic
They can’t even get in
They could probably do the theoretical stuff,so from year three onwards (where they specialise and pick their options) they could get along just fine.
They could possibly do potions
(Edit) ok everyone i get it
@@tinkabouthat8856 true but there's no incentive for squibs do that instead of just going to a non-magical school so there's still no reason for them to attend
Squibs can do muggle studies, arithmancy, care of magical creatures, history of magic and maybe potions. The rest of the classes can be theoretical. Squibs could even grow up to be teachers of theoretical classes like the ones I already mentioned.
MatPat: "It's like building Harvard over a Nuclear testing site!"
Me: Has literally no one heard of the Manhattan Project?
It wasn't in Manhattan
@Albert Williams learn ur history
@@Heavygamingreal it wasn't it was in desert
@@Heavygamingreal
You should be the one learning history kid
Manhattan project was named because Manhattan engineer district not fucking manhattan.
Los Alamos laboratory is in new Mexico So calm down kid.
Your forgetting that in Harry Potter when Tom Riddle firstly came to Hogwarts Dumbledore paid for his school supplies so sometimes the teachers will pay for the stuff
Yeah and when harry didnt think he have potions he got to borrow a book for studying
This is the most realistic part of Hogwarts as a school; if the kids need supplies, teachers are probably going to need to pay out of pocket.
Yeah, wasn’t there like a 30 galleon bursary for students who couldn’t afford it?
Yeah but he's an orphan
It was paid for by hogwarts, they have a fund for that situation.
I seem to recall Xavier rejecting Spider-man from attending solely based on the fact that Spider-man was a mutate, not a mutant, being given his mutation post birth rather than having at birth.
When Hogwarts students arrive there, they're already 11 years old, so they should know how to read and do basic arithmetic
Ada Joy Gribble But when they graduate, they have the literacy and arithmetic skills of an 11 year old.....
but wouldn't they start magic early?
Internet Supervillan but they choose if they want to get muggle jobs or not. And they choose if they want to go to a muggle uni/college. Also, most wizards/witches get magical jobs soo...
Well, if your a pure blood then you technically don’t go to muggle school anyway.
Ada Joy Gribble 8
Also, MatPat, there's a slight hole in your argument against Hogwarts' illegality of squib discrimination. Hogwarts is a school for magicians, and it teaches Magical subjects, as you yourself stated. It would make absolutely *_zero_* sense for non-magicians of any kind to attend the school, since they wouldn't be able to make use of most of the knowledge they'd acquire.
I do agree, but the squibs can go into classes like history of Hogwarts ,potions and herbology. So there is still an opportunity for squibs to go there. Squibs remind me off exchange students where they can't take some of the classes because they don't have the right qualifications to be there.
they wouldn't be able to make anything of their knowledge. the school is predicated on honing magical ability. no magical ability= failed classes. the only thing a squib would be able to learn is history and maybe, maybe potions
J.K.R. had revealed that the students at Hogwarts either go to normal muggle school and/or they are taught at home by their parents in subjects such as reading, writing, mathematics, and of course the birds and bees.
The problem is really that if something unexpected and magical were to happen to them, like the kind that always happens at hogwarts, they wouldn't be able to do anything about it. Couldn't use magic to get away, alert teachers, stop it from happening, etc. Having non-magical students is a bit of a liability.
CuteAngel936 I did say " _most_ of the knowledge", not "all". The subjects that you've cited are the precise reason for why I said that.
To be fair, according to 'the half blood Prince' book, Hogwarts does offer funding to students without any other options
but wizards have different laws so....
So do people from other cultures, despite Hogwarts being in the UK
yeah they are different they can do what they want
To be fair the wizarding governments are not the same as the muggle goverments. The Macusa pre dates the united states and the british ministry of magic seems to still control ireland. Despite ireland also being independent in some way. Atleast to have its own national quiddictch team.
Wales and Scotland have Quidditch teams of their own so I'm not sure what your point is there
I guess the idea is that people of the magic world including squibs pay taxes that are spent on discriminatory school like Hogwarts, which means that it is highly likely that the wizard world would also have anti -discrimination laws for schools that gets tax funding.
am I the only one who's read Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children and was totally outraged on how far the movie stayed from the books? like, don't get me wrong, the movie by itself was pretty good, but I would've liked them to have at least gotten the characters right.
Joli Blythe omg I feel you. I was so excited to see Emma's character, and then they mixed up her peculiarty! And instead of making multiple movies, they cramped it into one and cut out the second book entirely.
I know right ? And I loved the second book ! ♥
Spoiler:
Did they even mentioned thet he can controll the monsters ?
Josefin Liepe nope. they did not. Kinda ruined the entire movie, seeing as that one power lead to a lot of events happening, but nevertheless, they did not.
IronyOverdose I'm still crying about the movie, milllard didn't even have a lot of lines
AffluxWaffles Ikr! I love Millard so much and he was barely in the movie!! I cri evrytim.
Ok how did Xavier's win? Considering there was only one category left worth one point and they had one point less than Hogwarts. Wouldn't it be tied?
Annie Macleod Matpats logic is that the school is illegal because of the discrimination so it would be shut down.
dont they have different laws? the Muggle world and the wizarding world
Oh my God you are so right
Hogwarts would be illegal and Wizarding law includes most of muggle laws.
Cristian Mcconathey most, but not ALL
At Hogwarts, the students go there at age 10-11, which means that they should know the basic things in life, like how to read, know addition, subtraction, division, etc. The should also know the key points in history as well. And beside, when will you ever need to use all that advanced math stuff you learn in middle school and high school? Another thing is that this school just CAN'T physically train muggles. They teach magical things that Squibs just can't learn. Not trying to hate here, I love this channel.
what about potions? it seems conceivable that a Squib could learn those, as well as classes about magical beasts and
herbology, right?
Actually @InfintyMagic you start the September after you turn 11 (so if your birthday is in September, October, November, or December you don't start until the following year - like Sirius Black, Tom Riddle, and Hermione Granger). You must have had your 11th birthday to be admitted.
@James M - JKR has said herself that a certain level of magic is required for those subjects. Potions requires some magic in the brewing, Herbology in the growing, etc. This applies to subjects like Arithmancy and Ancient Runes too. Really, the only subjects they could learn would be History of Magic and Muggle Studies - one of which is not strictly useful and the other they could learn better in non-magical society.
Yeh but you need to learn a lot more topics in those subjects covered in high school. So when they came out of the school to find work, they would have the math skills of a ten year old
You only need to learn them if they will help you get a job. The point of school is to teach you skills that will aid you in the workplace. In a wizarding world, magic aids you in that, math doesn't necessarily.
Nyx Darklore But still, even the wizarding world wouldn't want to breed man children that don't know how to use more complicated language and maths above the level of a 11 year old
The thing with Peregrine's is that you only age forward if you leave via the portal you age forward but in the books the kids are able to leave the island and age forward as normal even thought the loop ended (It's very confusing I know)
Why was Harry Potter sent to the office?
Because he was cursing in class!
.....
You don't get my Harry Potter jokes do you?
There must be something
RON with you!
No.
Excited Cat you give me life
Just no.
Excited Cat can't believe I laughed at this
There's a place in hell that you would be perfect for.
Correction MatPat,
If the students leave the loop *and * enter the cairn, they will age rapidly and die. However, IF they stay in the loop (and it doesn't reset [the book]) Then the children will age normally.
THANK YOUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!! What really annoys is that he says its an interesting series, it would be even more interesting if you FUCKING READ IT
Arial Skeleton exactly!!!!
isn't it peculiarism, and not peculiardom
Battington No, its perculiardorm but I do think they use both but its been a while since I have read the books
TheBoozled Bean it's peculiarity
but he forgot that the magic government is different from the muggle government so
maybe, maybe not, who knows
Yea, plus the fact that Harry Potter series took place in the 90's or even earlier. I don't know when the laws took effect, but I would assume they weren't as strict back then.
Jake Howard did you not read/watch Order of the Phoenix? the ministry interferes with Hogwarts' curriculum because of their financial aid they provide for the tuition costs. from a purely structural standpoint there is little difference between muggle and wizarding governments.
Joey Cardenas Their laws are obviously pretty different, though.
British laws are all muggle laws, wizards don't know anything about muggle laws.
Sky high
UA highschool
Percy Jackson school for demi gods
Monster university
Everafter high
Monster high
Casper monster
Naruto ninja academy
Blue exorcist highschool
Baka and test highschool
Winx club highschool
RWBY high school
(These schools are mainly for the protection training and help people with powers)
Miss Peregrine's isn't a school, really. It's more just a home from kids with powers, hence why it's called Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children.
And PS Matpat: 3 is now greater than 3? Really?
Well I guess he disqualified hogwarts since its breaking some laws
I was thinking that about Miss Peregrin's Home; that's not a school
Having just seen the movie today, I agree. There is no reason to include it here other than it being described as "Harry Potter meets X-Men," which is just capitalizing on current hype.
To be fair, Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children placed second and beat Hogwarts by default.
Matt those wizards can read. They start school at Hogwarts when their 11. What 11 year old doesn't know how to read?
An 11 year old with a shitty home life up? What if the child's education had been severely neglected? Do they have special ed classes at Hogwarts? Hopefully they do and Harry is just oblivious.
Umm I'm 11
Totally Nameless Majority students at Hogwarts will most likely be able to
6:40
“She’s a bit of bird brain”
Me: *quietly smiles to myself*
I saw Mrs.peregrine's home for peculiar children, and I definitely wouldn't count it as a school. They kinda just do whatever they want, there's one "faculty", they don't have classes, they do chores for her, they make dinner, etc. It's more like a normal house/"retirement home"/daycare.
Mashiro-chan! In the books they actually have lessons I'm not sure about the movie though I haven't seen it
Mashiro-chan! Well, the chores are for helping the kids practice their peculiarities, and find uses for them.
But chores are still chores so...
Sophia Lewis yes, but in the video I am 99% sure he is talking about the movie.
ƇσявιηѕƁƖαɗє I get it, but the rest.
Well it's better that he ignores all the anime ones... or we'd have another 100 on this list.
+Vjorp , I kinda wish Brakebills College for Magical Pedagogy was given more than a passing mention. Although there's a lot of similarities between it and Hogwarts.
TheJoutunTheDwarf AndTheJackdaw YES SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THE MAGICIANS SERIES!
The DWMA/Shibusen is a pretty great anime school
That one of Soul Eater?
RWBY FTW
1: If there a Snape ya can’t Escape
2: I’d go to hogwarts and miss Perigrins anyways
3: I guess seeing through other people’s eyes is a power/special?
9:35 I'm going to have to disagree with you one this one: some of the instances you cited are only a problem when Harry is there(snake in the plumbing, death eaters, the troll (which had to be let in by the way), and dementors), and apparently 60-ish years prior when Tom opened the chamber the 1st time. all the permanent hazards are easily avoided and well known (how harry didn't know about the tree is beyond me, and the forest is officially of limits)
Well you cant say quiditch isnt exstremely dangerous and hasnt killed anyone.
The forest is off limits? I guess the only exception to that rule is if you’re given detention and have to go in one of the most dangerous place in Hogwarts at night...
but they don't really enforce it
a student can easely walk in
and there was a door with fluffy behind
and you could say it was locked
litterly a basic spel can open the door and the dog can easely break it
Yeah, they were in the middle of a WAR, obviously there’s going to be danger. Its not like they’re any safer at home- unless they’re pure blood I guess
Why would they bother having such a dangerous forest in the grounds in the first place?
When students start attending hogwarts they’re eleven, meaning that most likely they went to some other school before attending hogwarts (like elementary/primary school) in that time they would have been able to learn to read and any mathematic principle that they would actually have to use in life because I surely don’t use quadratics everyday
But Hogwarts was only attacked once, and never again and the other lady’s School was attacked every day, and Xavier’s school puts their student in danger. And Hogwarts teach their students many things other than just controlling their ability
Yes but they all still were attacked
Danyan360 Hogwarts was only attacked once. As it’s is known. It was attacked the least of them all and the oldest one.
yeah, if you aren't counting the time Dumbledore died, the spiders in the forest, the centuars, grawp, and so much more
Emily C. Dumbledore wanted to be killed, and he planned it. And the creatures only attack when threatened. And what do you expect from wild creatures. They are wild, not some domestic pets.
@@canweget1ksubswithoutanyvi608 first off, centaurs are probably evolved from humans, or a horse and human did what it took to have a child. Either way, centaurs are just as smart as humans, if not more. second, yes Dumbledore planned to be killed by Snape. However, he did not plan for death eaters to break into the school and endanger his students. Also, you didn't address the fact that there is a giant squid in the lake, a tree that can kill you, a basilisk specifically intended to kill students, (muggle-borns) a three-headed dog, a teacher merged with Lord Voldemort, a teacher that turns into a werewolf, a teacher who was faking being the person who was supposed to teach and turned out to be Lord Voldemorts spy in the school, a contest that managed to get sabotaged by previous teacher, a student dying at the hands of Lord Voldemort because of said sabotage, well.... you get the idea. I'm probably the biggest Harry Potter fan of all time, but even I can't deny that it is very dangerous. Also, GO HUFFLEPUFF.
"...And if you wish, a pet may be brought, whether a cat, owl, or toad"
yes, i know this isn't the exact quote
And then we see someone bring a rat and a Pygmy Puff.
Um, wouldn't you learn math before eleven? I mean, by middle school, you can add, subtract, multply, and divide!
LPSEverdeenYT by middle school you learn algebra
Through pre-k to 3rd grade u slowly learn addition and subtraction..Then in 3rd grade AFTER U MASTER DAT addition and subtraction U go into multiplication and division more grades though 3 to 4th grade....Then 4th to 5th grade you slowly go onto fractions and MASTER them at the end of the year of 5th grade also mastering multiplication and division and subtraction and addition...Then U go into middle school where they tell you,you have done math wrong lol and get taught a different method Bleh bleh and LEARN ALGEBRA dun dun dunnnnn (I'm in 6th so this is my whole entire life....ever ...lol) And I'm 11 right now turning 12 on may 3rd so
And read! Yeah. I mean, maybe _MatPat_ only learned to read in high school but... from an objective analysis standpoint, he kind of dropped the ball there. :P
LPSEverdeenYT Yeah, I mean I literally was taught square roots, powers of ten, and pi in 5th grade?
by year 2 we could multiply, divide, add, subtract and knew fractions, mean mode and median and multiplication tables up to 12
But does the wizard world even *have* anti-discriminatory laws?
Avakadoman Good point.
Avana Cadabra
Considering the amount of hate Lupin gets for being a werewolf, I'm going to say no
Joseph Corey ITS AVADA KADAVRA
Literally what I thought as soon as I watched this
Matpat: the single most magical thing about these schools is that you don’t have to pay.
Me: *going to school in Denmark we’re taxes pay for everything, and when you get to the higher educations you are even paid to go to school.*
Same in the UK, also Hogwarts is a high school. Do Americans pay for highschools as well?
Don't try and say the same laws have to apply to both worlds. The Knight bus should've gotten a couple of speeding tickets by now. Heck the driver shouldn't have a licence
These schools are met with reality... Why shouldn't he?
GumgumDookuin well, primarily because Magical Britain has its own government, and last I checked separate governments are under no obligation to use the same laws as others. This pretty much means that Hogwarts has some leeway, and I’m pretty sure they also have a degree of autonomy as a charter school or something.
Lelouch Yagami But they cant and don’t see the bus so they can’t ticket it😂
Zeref ur alive?
At this point, the Knight Bus driver should have been arrested
HP NERD OUT BELOW. You have been warned.
There are some basic flaws in your arguments against Hogwarts on two points.
First, Hogwarts has a fund for students who can't pay for their supplies, as explained by Dumbledore to Tom Riddle in the 6th book. I think it works like any financial aid plan would in the muggle world.
Second, the fact that squibs can't go to Hogwarts is a matter of practicality and safety rather than discrimination. Though heavily based in discrimination because of the cultural bias against them, it is the best option for them to go to muggle schools (weirdly no one's yet had the bright idea to open a school specifically for children born into the wizarding world without magic, idk why) because they don't need magic for the curriculum, whereas in Hogwarts, the entire curriculum would be impassable.
PS not being rude, I promise, I love Film Theory! I'm just a giant nerd.
I totally agree with you, it's a question of practicality. Also, I had totally forgot about the funds, good job!
Albin Larsson Oh thank you!
Fellow Potterhead here.
There is no need for any particular shool for squibs as muggle shools already provide that on their own. And as there sure is the discrimination to them I believe they serve as great, shall we say, ambassadors(?), links for the magical community to have in the muggle society. If something magical or illegal happens, they may very well be the ones to alert the Ministry.
Yeah but how many Squibs actually attend Muggle school? If their families really are that prejudiced against Muggles then they probably won't want their Squib child to associate with Muggles, even if they think their child is dirt on their shoe. Just look at Filch. If he'd gotten a Muggle education, would he be hanging around Hogwarts all bitter like?
I don't think you can complain about Hogwarts and Miss Peregrine's Home not accepting squibs
onpeculiars. The whole point of these faculties is to educate or protect wizards\peculiars. That's like whining about two-year-olds not being accepted to Harvard.
As if X men doesnt have an issue of people disliking them? all of them are just a bunch of extraordinary people who. in fact wants to live like a normal people. in Harry potter they teach magical kids to learn how to control it. while they cant accept squibs who literally are just normal people. while in perigines they are just in a time loop. just like x men they have extraordinary abilities in which they want to hide or control it. while in xmen is. well just like perigines' children. they learn. they study they control their powers and the most common of x men movies is acceptance of normal people. like????
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Or whining about a boy not being allowed in an all-girls school and vice versa
Hogwarts should have an only-squibs program.
Schools should follow a standardized curriculum.
It's like if your school had decided to only teach math and nothing else. A person who can't do magic should still learn about it, living in a magical world.
I bet even Neville would have chosen to have some theoretical magic classes instead of practical.
VisseNekku Everyone who goes to hogwarts is at least 11. They are in middle school. They know how to read write do basic math even prealgebra. Hogwarts doesn’t just pick you up off the street uneducated. Neville wouldn’t choose theoretical classes either. He chose based off what his family wanted. They know more than you’re making it out to be. You also don’t have to learn about the magical world as a squib. You are the offspring of WIZARDS. You are literally living in the magical world all the time. Learn as you go like a normal human being.
in the books it's explained that before going to Hogwarts, all students have a primary school education
Hogwarts is basically just a really cool secondary school
X Men and Harry Potter Universe: You just have to be born special to get into Hogwarts or the X Men School for Gifter Youngsters
U.A High in My Hero Academia:
- Has a 0.01% acceptance rate
- You have to take a written and a practical exam in order to get 1 of the 36 places in the Hero course. So you and HUNDREDS of other people are competing for those spots
- Even if tou don't get in, there are many other Hero schools you can apply for
- The practical exam involves destroying as military-grade robots robots as you can.
Hog warts doesn't teach squibs because they literally can't do magic it's like teaching a kid who can't see how to read
... braille...blind kids can read by using a system called braille
Exactly
Andrew B. people who are blind can read just not the same way we do they use touch to be able to read specially textured books
Yeah I guess but A LOT is magic
Rasbipac the thing is, during your first and second years of Hogwarts, there are a list of required classes you must take: Potions, DADA, Transfiguration, Charms, History of Magic, and Astronomy. These are core classes that every student is required to take every year. Once you get to your third year, you are allowed to take two Elective classes (or in Hermione's case, all of them), which are your Muggles Studies and Arithmency and Frog Choir. The issue for Squibs is that they have to get through their first two years successfully, passing their exams for all six required classes, with only having the ability to actually learn the curriculum in two of them.
Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters TIES with Hogwarts, so HOW do they come out on top? Also, The Wizarding World pretty much ignores the Muggle world, so the Muggle Government, and its' agencies, would have no jurisdiction over Hogwarts.
they tie, but because of their failure (assuming his logic on the last one is correct, which I don't personally think, but that's a whole other argument) hogwarts is flat out illegal, and therefore xavier's wins by default, as hogwarts would be disqualified.
they don't accept squibs because not only could they not take half the courses but the entire Wizarding world discriminates against them so they wouldn't even get a proper job in the Wizarding world
but if im a wizard and decide i want to bake for a living, well i can go down buy a new shop kneed some dough and magic me up some fire, but if im a mutant with let's say fire powers and i want to bake FUCK YOU. if i try setting up a bakery in say new york well at some point some one is going to find out. The only mutants that gets away with being in normal society post first class include a mutant whose power is perfect mimicry and a mutant who is centuries old and almost always entirely off the grid.
Shouldn't be a tie anyway. Xavier's school should've been awarded points in categories 3,4 and 7.
buffyrulez I was thinking more of setting up a wizard bakery near or on a wizard campus. Those young us must be hankering for some brownie brownie's
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Actually, Cyclops is a master of trig and geometry, being able to bounce his optic blasts (they are *not* lasers) all over a room before hitting is actual target and doing no damage to his allies.
One thing, in book six it is revealed that Hogwarts has a trust fund for poorer students.
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Seriously, Mat? I've never read the Harry Potter books or seen the movies, but even I know they can read! They can probably read better than most kids what with all the Latin (sort of). Considering the students are accepted into the school at age twelve (I think), they would probably also know basic math, if only to do potions (which I would assume is similar enough to cooking and *that* requires some math).
Admittedly, I'd think the students should probably get a little more math than just Grade 6, but considering how much people forget from the grades after that, maybe they'll be fine.
yeah they are in regular school untill age 11
If they are from wizard families it probable they didn't go to muggle schools.
people like malfoy were proabably home schooled until he was 11. but harry did go to school when he was young
George Andrews Yeah, and in the books and movies all students are seen reading and Hermione has mentioned math classes
I think it was a joke. They are clearly able to read in the movies and books.
Technically it was a tie, Xaviers School For Gifted Youngsters and Hogwarts both had 3
Ok just going to state this probably never going to be seen but Hogwarts is founded by the ministry of magic and is located somewhere in the UK however, the lives of Wizards and kind are governed by the Ministry of Magic a separate governmental agency then the UK. Thus they are not limited to the laws of the UK. By that logic the entire wizarding world is breaking the law on at least tax evasion.
I'm pretty sure they meant "funded"
In fairness do we know wizards don't pay tax to the UK government when it applies to them? Perhaps a chunk of the tax they to the ministry gets given to the UK government?
but to actually get help from the muggle president they would probally have to have a sence of these laws
Isitpossible ??? Ok I guess
Well they are basing it off the laws of Princeton.
but Ms.Peregrine's isn't a school! it's a home!
Lily m BUTT(intended :P) Hogwarts is my HOME!!
Lily m Agree. It's like an orphanage
Lily m HOW DARE YOU!?!?!?! PRERGRINE'S HOUSE IS AMAZING GUH THE MOVIE EVEN GOT IT WRONG
Sara Tui well I will admit I haven't read the books so I definitely could be wrong but it just doesn't seem like a school. idk.
kind of
Kids at Hogwarts will already know how to read, write and do math because they have until they are 11 to learn basic skills like reading and writing which won't be as necessary in the wording world.
In the exams like OWl thst need those skills
I know, I was thinking just the same!
exactly! most of them (especially muggle born) have already went to normal school at least once, so they would already know how to read and write? also, even if they were born into a family like Ron's where they don't know much about muggles, they would have been already taught to read and write, but probably not math. they would still know how!
Blob Ugi Maybe they read and write but they aren't really good at maths, 'cause come on, they are in 4th or 5th grade! In Xavier's school for gifted youngsters is different
Summer Remmer-Riley They still read so leave it alone.
Charles Xavier's house explodes every few years
Colossus: a home explosion builds character
What do you mean Harry Potter wizards can't read? Everyone at that school can read its kind of required for understanding the text books.
*Sarcasm*
Poorly delivered, if it was.
Jackson Furlong Not to mention that you do not start attending Hogwarts until you are eleven. The parents probably teach their children how to read, or with cases like Harry's they attend Muggle school until they are eleven.
kyoyameganebereznoff Exactly the shit I'm talking about.
Jokes
Saying Squibs should go to Hogwarts is like saying a mute person should go to a singing school(where they don't teach anything except singing)
Wait so…. Wouldn’t that mean Xavier’s school and Hogwarts are tied?
Knew what a record was, knew what a compact disc/cd was, never heard of a laser disk.
think cd the size of a record
I thought the "what's a CD?" Thing was a little exaggerated. Even little kids these days still get dvds of their favourite family friendly shows. And it's not like CD's aren't sold in stores anymore or anything
I actually had a friend of my sister who didn't know what a diskman was. That's not CD exactly, but still the tech is going out.
They're more like a massive dvd. Pretty close in quality too.
Who said that the ministry of magic had the same laws as the USA
krishna pol they don't mat Pat is wrong
You mean the UK
They may not have the same laws in the harry potters universe, but this is they were theoretically in our world and we know about them. It would be unfair to let hogwarts stay hidden to the world while everyone knows about professor x’s school.
Bluejay Warrior even if they were in our world and we knew about them Hogwarts exists tight next to a completely wizard community (hogsmead) so it's not getting surrounded by the government anytime soon.plus I think even if we knew about the wizard I think they would still continue to have the same laws
Arham Shahid I have to disagree with you. The UK would definitely attempt to get the wizard community to abide by their laws. If the community chooses not to then we’d have a feud between the UK and wizards, making it even harder for normal people, like you and me, to get into Hogwarts. Don’t forget this is in the real world where the odds of us being wizards are very little.
Harry Potter: My parents died and left me an enormous fortune, and now I'm left with a mean set of guardians.
Baudelaires (A Series of Unfortunate Events): I know what you mean.
Finally, Someone who watches a Series of Unfortunate Events-
How come I only realized this now when you told me?
@@oo-fk3ek Watched both versions and read the books. Plus the prequel series, the special edition of Bad Beginning, and several companion works.
Wait, isn't Miss Peregrine's school is a house and not technically a school? I thought it is like an orphanage home.
It is.
he mentioned that since she teaches them he is counting it as a school
Mieya Young That is not a good reason.
A school is any place of learning. The location doesnt matter.
Charlton Christian Of course Miss Peregrine teach the children but the problem is that it is a secret home for peculiar children. She needs to teach them because they can't learn with other people in the outside world. Does my home count as a school just because my mom teached me how to speak? I don't think so. That is not a good reason.
Hogwarts, Hogwarts, Hoggy Warty Hogwarts,
Teach us something please,
Whether we be old and bald
Or young with scabby knees,
Our heads could do with filling
With some interesting stuff,
For now they’re bare and full of air,
Dead flies and bits of fluff,
So teach us things worth knowing,
Bring back what we’ve forgot,
Just do your best, we’ll do the rest,
And learn until our brains all rot.
I remember dis
Oh you may not think I'm pretty,
But don't judge on what you see,
I'll eat myself if you can find
A smarter hat than me.
You can keep your bowlers black,
Your top hats sleek and tall,
For I'm the Hogwarts Sorting Hat
And I can cap them all.
There's nothing hidden in your head
The Sorting Hat can't see,
So try me on and I will tell you
Where you ought to be.
You might belong in *Gryffindor* ,
Where dwell the brave at heart,
Their daring, nerve, and chivalry
Set Gryffindors apart;
You might belong in *Hufflepuff* ,
Where they are just and loyal,
Those patient Hufflepuffs are true
And unafraid of toil;
Or yet in wise old *Ravenclaw* ,
if you've a ready mind,
Where those of wit and learning,
Will always find their kind;
Or perhaps in *Slytherin* ,
You'll make your real friends,
Those cunning folks use any means
To achieve their ends.
So put me on! Don't be afraid!
And don't get in a flap!
You're in safe hands (though I have none)
For I'm a Thinking Cap!
Ah,music.A magic beyond all we do here!And now,bedtime.Off you trot!
Peccavi Reboot how do you make it blue?
Yes