WHOSE TOWN IS IT ANYWAY?: EASTERHOUSE PEOPLE AND POWER
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- Опубликовано: 29 май 2013
- Presents a portrait of a working class community after 25 years on the receiving end of traditional local government. Includes interviews with local community activists, a meeting in a pub, the editorial office of "The Voice" community newspaper and a discussion with unemployed young people. Conveys their sense of powerlessness and anger at the failure of the authorities to get to grips with the massive housing and employment needs of their area.
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Director
FREETH, Tony
Production Company
Beat
Production Company
Rainbow Production
Producer
JACKSON, Michael
Researcher
EDGINTON, John
Script
EDGINTON, John
Camera Operator
SINGLETON, Martin
Editor
ORTON, Peter
Transmission date
01/05/1984
Country
Great Britain
Series/Slot
WHOSE TOWN IS IT ANYWAY?
Start time
18:30
Stop time
19:00
Duration
30 mins.
Company
Channel Four
Channel
Channel Four
I lived in Dunphail Rd from 1967 to 1975.. My mum opened a community centre in Dunphail road in 1973, it was an empty house.. Great times..
My husband and I moved to easterhouse after the compulsory purchase order was placed on our kelvinside home, the price city chambers paid for our two bedroom living room kitchen bathroom in a beautiful red sandstone building was ridiculous.
I must say I found the people wonderful and enjoyed my time there.
My self,my husband, and all my children went on to higher education my husband and I both returning to university and doing second degrees when for different reasons our careers changed each gaining masters and each continuing to upgrade our education until we retired. We traveled pretty much the world.we met people from every station in life.
I admit perhaps we both had a different outlook on life as both grew up in the West end of Glasgow and had decent education we did marry young and continued with education gaining degrees in initial planned careers that both switched in our 30's
I've never had as good neighbours as those I had in easterhouse. They truly were the salt of the earth
Wee bit of a culture shock for you..
I moved to Easterhouse from plant St in Dennistoun,in 1958,and i have got to say that I thought we were moving to paradise,from five of a family in a single end to having two bedrooms ,kitchen ,bathroom,greenfields,I used to have to travel to dennistoun every day to school,deliver milk in morning with Scottish farmers before school,I know employment is different today.but just sayiing Easterhouse in my youth was great,and I will never be ashamed of having lived there!
Good on ye!
The reality of that town back then was that most of the rumours about us were true, but it wasn't nearly as common as it was made out when you were in amongst all that mayhem. it was a wonderful adventure, I faced many hardships including not enough food, crime, violence in the streets and the list goes on but It made me a mentally hardened individual now and honestly I have never felt that community spirit or had a particularly magical new years/christmas the same because everywhere else you go, people don't talk, people close doors on each other. We have become a safer Glasgow with less poverty in modern times but we have sacrificed alot of the major parts that made my childhood as great a time as it was.
It’s totally different now . Most of the old scheme has been pulled down and new houses been built
i too used to live in Easter house Auchencrow st the dolls houses as they were known from 1966 to 1974 almost eight years living there i moved to Manchester that year but i remember watching this about 1984/85 but the people talking here is certainly intelligent conversion about a huge housing estate scheme and little in the way of proper resources about 2003/4 i appeared on Radio 2 pop master and i spoke to KEN Bruce and he said to me your not originally from Manchester and I said to him I came from Easterhouse
I lived at 149 Easterhouse rd 1958-70 ,moving from a single end in Dennistoun it was like moving to paradise.I never thought about the negatve side of hardly any shops or community centres,I was only14 and was too busy playing footie with ma pals and exploring all the wide open spaces.To think that nearly 60k people lived there at its peak and they had to travel into Glasgow for decent shopping and entertainment.So sad for all the people,I have nothing but fond memories of Easterhouse!
Thank you really enjoyed watching this. Easter house looks a place with a lot of history.
we were a gang of bricklayers from Manchester working on the golden jubilee hospital in clydebank in the early 90s, we worked with lads from easterhouse, great bunch they were.
That’s brilliant!! Glad to hear you have fond memories of us!
Wow! Thanks for sharing this. Lovely old footage!
well done, fascinating video. And you've added all the necessary information. This is the easiest , reader friendly description I have ever read. Simple fact not being facetious. Anyway, on a personal note, we were so poor as kids my parents dressed me up as a footy ref., so that folk would throw coins at me
Lived in denmilne st 72 to 81 it was the best years of my life brilliant place ❤️
Great documentary. I grew up in Swinton, Baillieston during the 70s and 80s. I remember The Voice newspaper (had long forgotten about that !!) being delivered through my parents letterbox. Thanks for posting this, it brings back memories.
Thank you for your kind comment!
Thank you for so many memories 💖
stayed in barlanark and easterhouse all my life. not ashamed. thanks for posting
The schemes of Castlemilk, The Drum, Easterhouse and Pollok probably looked a great idea on paper in the 50's, but all suffered from the same problems. Decent folk living cheek by jowl with bams in isolated estates with few amenities, was a failed experiment that would never affect the so-called 'planners.'
I lived in Easterhouse for over 25 years I lived in baldovan crescent I will never ever forget where I grew up or where I lived and the byewell is still there all the good times and bad times
Fantastic Documentary. 💯👌
I recall in the late 80's and early 90's visiting this area frequently whilst buying and trading guitars. There were some really wonderful people living here and of course ( like anywhere else) some not so good people. I think it got a bad reputation because of the few and not because of the many.
This is brilliant. Was brought up in aultmore road 1970's and 80's
My parents came from Easter house and it was nice then and no one said anything but nice things we lived in Darley Drive and it was a nice flat with nice backyard but as we got older moved away so we had no problem at all. Thank you.
i loved living in easterhouse. best childhood ever from 1960 till 1973. i lived in baldragon road and went to st leonards.
what an excellent documentary.
My aunt was living there in 1984 and I visited her once or twice. All I remember is that she had yellow wallpaper.
Journalism of the highest quality
Stayed in shettlston moved to lockend Rd in the 70s for short time.💯👌
this is great, and a good reminder of life under LABOUR councils
Hiya, you are welcome. Feel bad for the struggles people went through back then, sad that another generation will probably face the same crap :(. Was shocked when he said how long he'd been married for and how many kids he had - he looks so young!! Different times back then I suppose.
That young woman with the black hair is brilliant. All of the people in tyis video are.
I remember Easterhouse in the late 1980s. Dante's inferno comes to mind. I was a security guard for a few days. My father told me that when it was first built, people nick-named it Exodus because everybody wanted out as soon as they arrived. I forget the street names, but I have this memory of burnt-out cars and a 30-foot-high water spout on the pavement. Half the houses were boarded up. It looked like a third-world nightmare Disneyland in the city of culture.
_" It looked like a third-world nightmare."_ Now politicians are filling it with third-world people.
Moved to 74 Aberdalgie Road in October 1958 from the Gallowgate on my tenth birthday.
Then there wasn't even street lights or pavements on Westerhouse road.
had to walk a couple of hundred yards often in the dark on very muddy conditions to catch the number 41 bus to Duke Street.
Hiya, I would be interested in how you obtained the video I have been trying to obtain a copy of another film in the series of whose town is it anyway for a number of years.
my grandmother and grandad lived there as well from the 70s through to the early 90s just above the school
48mins 40 seconds , I genuinely think that's me with the blond hair , as the other kids run away, I lived around the corner my pals stayed in the closes where the kids are playing , it's all very surreal to watch this
That’s amazing! Really glad to hear it’s touched you.
@@alanna4858 I've seen it before on this but it came up again, I thinks it roughly82/ 83 it's been filmed,
I was brought up in Queenslie which was like little Easterhouse. Great when I was young, but later in life it was full of glue sniffers and those who lost there way due to having nothing. Let down by the council.
that point about the riot was spot on!!
"Councillors are paid to represent the people but they don't do it". To think that a woman in this film said this and 4 decades later it's still the same. The councillors - like MSPs and MPs now - ask the people to vote them into power and say they'll do this, that and the other thing if they give them their vote. Once they get their 4rse in the chair they do what THEY want. There is no legal accountability - they can literally tell a pack of lies and then cook up an excuse - as they do - for not doing what they said they would. The only thing that will change this is to make it illegal for a politician to say they'll do something and to then not do it. Manifesto documents should form the basis of a legally enforceable contract between the politician and the people.
Great to see this film of old Easterhouse, stayed most of my time there at 133 Lochend Rd, just down from the round church, (great to see my old hoose in the film), all that i've seen and done, I owe to Easterhouse, and the teachers at St Clares & St Leonards. Loved my time living there, had a great circle of friends from Calcots Pl, Lochend Rd, Rachan St, Lochdochart Rd, in fact all over the scheme. 2 minutes from anywhere in Easterhouse and you were in the countryside, I'm sure like me, there are many who owe a lot to Easterhouse, doesn't matter where I end up in the world, I'll always be an Easterhouse boy.
+Tom Connan shitehole..
rob b Sometimes the web is such a sad place, as it presents a platform for moronic people like yourself to make comments, only pond life would relate to. Keep on facebooking, twittering, whatsapping, and all the other shite that rings your bell. PS growing up in Easterhouse has taught me to respect the views of others, gave me a good education, and left me with some great memories. If you read this quickly, you'll just be in time to catch the "X Factor" or some reality TV, which I'm sure is more in line with your intellect, or should I say the lack of it.
Tom Connan junkie ned
Oh rob, I seem to be getting under your creeping skin, what a shame. I see your replied at 34 mins after midnight, did you sleep in for signing on. As I said, "the web" is a platform for ill informed wasters like yourself, oh sorry some of my words may be too big for you, so here's 2 you will understand "UP YOURS"
Kind Regards "The Junkie Ned" LoL
Nice to see your awake ay 02:48 in the morning, a bit early for the old Giro delivery eh!, have YOU ever seen daylight ?. Anyway I see you speak German, noticed it in your last babble, but can you please translate "Verber" into english, Ich spraken zie deutch, but don't understand that one. OK, lets proceed in German, Gute Nacht, wie ghet's, ich bich herr Tom aus Osternhaus, or French maybe, Bon soir je suis monsieur Tom de paqueschatau, I'm sorry this may be over the head of someone like yourself having the IQ similar to a bit of red lego, but a piss case for a boy from Easterhouse, watch the time, you'll have to run to the shops soon for a mobile top up. Finally some weegie, this is more on your level "ye awrite M8".
Fabulous. That's why I became a town planner. By the way I am BSc Dip TP MRTPI, MIPM. I am now 60. Thanks to Easterhouse and my parents for giving me a great education and a good start in life.Thank you to Rogerfield Primary School. This was about homes for hero's and by goodness these were hero's.
Gillian,I lived the whole of my early childhood in Easterhouse Dunskaith place....it was badly planned,slum conditions no amenities massive violence and awash with drugs and all sorts of other social deprivation ...fit for heroes? my dad was a Japanese POW he deserved better as did we all...good start in life dont make me laugh.
@@centaurdesign4318 she was being positive . Obviously you are massively negative .
@@samoday2992 LOL negative? You can talk! "Sauna" boss in Nevada! How's ye ma? LOL.
@@abigailbuchanan6674 not sucking off the postie for a bit of smack ….. does she take her tooth out for the job ?
@@samoday2992 LOL! Get back to your "Sauna business". Your family need you! Still thinking about your embarrassment, 24 hours later? Sad, sad, sad. The rooms need cleaning for the next, "male guests". Lots of the activities you charmingly describe, with your women!😂😂😂😂
My nana lived here, utter cesspit and was always scared going to visit her as a little girl. Shame on GCC Planning isolating thousands of impoverished people in the middle of nowhere in substandard housing.
I lived in Easterhouse, for a while, in 1983. In a two-story house near the train station. I worked almost entire in Easterhouse, and surrounding areas. I am from Arizona, in the US. When I arrived there, I had never seen so many government apartment buildings. I was also not prepared for the amount of people just hanging out, those living off the government dole. And I could not believe the number of dogs...dogs and dog manure everywhere. When I was new there, I stepped in it all the time. Easterhouse reminds me of many inner cities, in the United States. . They have been run by liberal/socialist-minded politicians, for decades, and are now in a state of decay. (Vast areas of Detroit, Michigan have been bulldozed down, and made into empty lots). The local politicians seem to retain their power, by promising freebies, to residents, ie, free housing, no need to find a job, a "We'll take care of you, just trust us" mentality. It's a shame. I loved the people there, but what living conditions...But that's government-run housing projects, for you.
lol I grew up in easterhouse from 1959 to1980, and trying to explain the amount of dogs to people who have never experienced it is funny.... 6 families in a close and at least 5 of them had dogs and every dog was allowed to roam the streets including mine, then occasionally council did a round up and we had to go to cardonald dog home and buy dog back, or as we called it, picking up the dug fae its holiday hoose...
regarding the unemployment, it was unusual not to be in work pre 80s, the dole became massive in 80s onward all over uk, and drugs became an issue which lead to crime and other problems... but local politicians have no power to offer anyone a free home, or say we will take care of u, government housing was an improvement to what had been before, and its even better now with the Glasgow housing association and its reasonably priced rented modern homes...
tubbychubby1.. a mind the dogs used to run aboot in big packs lol
How I’m the hell did you get from Arizona to Easterhouse?? That’s unbelievable!
@@spreadthelove77er plane maybe? 🤷
Anyone, what's the tune in the opening sequence? Ta.
Lived dunskaith place 1965-1979 left when they pulled our street down .loved living in our PEN.
Wonder if that wee bun margo fae easterhoose St still kickin about. Used tae pump her early 70's great wee ride.
She married yer son ya numpty.
The guy speaking at 21mins 15 secs is he a tribute act for Mo Johnson. What a player.
@@alanna4858seriously Mo Johnston your da? Or that man speaking is your da??. Mo to me will always be legend. That man speaking for he was telling it straight up i reckon.
Would of loved to have seen the Sheffield episode it advertised
one of the things that the women of Easter house were not allowed to have were there own public hall, like there granny had before them, Govan public hall Springburn public hall Shettelston public hall , where they could do there own thing, and except the thrill of applause or bood as was due for there own efforts . but in keeping , with socialism the were issued with a community education centre staffed by the councils private direct works department or the uni professors degree in this or that
Still proud to say that I was from Easterhoose,went there at 6 months old,until I was 20,moved away and still,take pleasure in telling people,that it was the business living there,Provy boy from Balfluig Street,(still a West Rebel at 56 ) mad innitt
jim godfrey is that you jimmy was never away from ur door &your uncle billy who stayed above you we were the ones selling the buckshe goods to your ma she was a gem west Rebs .? Geo Murphy.
Jim Darcy reading this in SA👍
The Glasgow version of the Bronx.
And before Easterhouse, The Gorbals was branded Glasgow Hell's Kitchen, not a lot of it was that bad, good few streets needed wiped but not the whole place, a lot of the old buildings (thanks to old pictures) would be worth an astounding fortune if they were still here..
Easterhouse on the other hand; A combination of poor planning before and after World War II, lack of facilities then Thatcher killing industry stone dead, had been declining from the end of World War II but she was the icing on the cake, doing little for people in Glasgow and elsewhere in the same situation bringing about a lead on to where things are today, which tends to be the butt of many people's jokes...
Except there were 3 others of a similar size , each in the 4 corners of Glasgow ... Drumchapel in the NW . Pollok in the SW, Castlemilk in the SE and Easterhouse in the NE. All built with roughly the same design of house . Billy Connolly who got moved from Partick to Drumchapel called it a “ desert with windows “
Can anyone say which year that this programme was made.I was a regular visitor to Easterhouse in the 80s.I never remember it looking as bad as it is in the film.
My mate and his girlfriend used to live down beside a bar called the Casbah.
It looks about 83, Just going by the cars and clothes.
very interesting. all the east end housing was let down by the council. (cranhill, easterhouse, queenslie, etc). you'd put in for a repair..... never get it.... and thats just the tip of the iceberg. never be ashamed of where you came (Glasgow made me what I am). There is no two ways about it ; the areas were neglected. Still are.
Whoever the architect was that designed the steel frame windows should have been sent back to school.
The amount of condensation sitting on the concrete cill every morning was atrocious and contributed to the dampness that was prevalent in most houses.
sadly all the peripheral council estates of Glasgow like Drumchapel, Castlemilk etc. were victims of poor planning when it came to amenities and schools. I live in Drumchapel and the strong community spirit is what made these estates thrive today in spite of the poverty and deprivation. Sadly 33 years on from this, these estates have been regenerated but some things never change. I personally enjoy living in Drumchapel but I still think more could be done to tackle the problems that still exist in places like Drumchapel, Easterhouse etc. Investment in council housing in the 1980s could've been a help but Thatcherism had no interest in helping out those in poverty and deprivation not only in housing but also in employment. As these estates continue to be regenerated, hopefully both community spirit and activism will be a voice to those in power that past mistakes should never be repeated!
90snostalgicgal where abouts u live ma da lives in drumry rd east
I'm in Kinfauns Drive
It’s funny how everyone blames Thatcherism .... you do realise the Labour Party has been in power a number of times before and since and done absolutely nothing for the working class ? We have been forgotten about as now our government is only interested in the new arrivals . Get your head out of the sand .
@@samoday2992 in the context of this video, Thatcherism was indeed a contributory factor. It was filmed in 1984 and, at that time, Margaret Thatcher was introducing privatisation and neoliberal economics. Following the introduction of the Right to Buy Scheme in 1980, residualisation was definitely evident in the peripheral housing schemes of Glasgow (as well as the rest of the UK). Therefore, Thatcherism indeed - at the time that this episode was filmed and aired - was contributory to the problems.
I totally agree with you. The Labour Party of today has most certainly lost sight of being all for the working class as PMs like Tony Blair have continued in neoliberalism and neoliberalism economics. The historical roots and historical campaigning for the working class - via the Labour Party - are long gone. I, too, am working class and from a working class background and am appalled at the lack of voice for the working class. New Labour is nothing in comparison to its shadow!
God help us and they kept voting the Labour party in locally. My mother and father were the same, voted Labour.
And a lot of other places in Glasgow where worse than the Bronx Govan in particular
I wish it had subtitles. I understand english but it's hard to follow with the accent. I love it tho.
i hate it when people slag off an area they have never even been to and never met the people,im sure most people at easterhouse were sound.never judge a man till u have walked in his shoes.
£37 pounds 40 hour week remember it well
You think it looks bad here... You should have seen what it looked like some 10 years later right before they started to demolish the area in the mid to late 90s. It was a much bigger shit hole that was dangerous as fuck... I knew a few people from that area back then. Good people for sure, but there was some real shit going on in the back ground. Drugs was a major Issue. I saw a mother with her child in one arm get slapped the fuck out ov... Saw a bus driver getting mugged with a kitchen knife and to top it of on a different bus a kid threw a brick through the drivers window for a laugh. I dont know if the 70s, 80s were anything like this, but easterhouse as i grew up was a real no go area.
Ned central, I wouldn't live in Easterhouse if the council paid my rent every month.
community gardens and workshops would help.
Easterhouse = Scotland’s ringpiece
to true, sometimes they were still reading it, in fact there were times I couldent wait until my neighbours bought the paper and I would to the local shop and wipe my arse b4 it was delivered to em......ah the good old days
Easterhouse was never really uphill!
That Lady is lovely.
People don’t build slums,people make slums..
Surely as a first step we should stop having children if there is little or no prospect of a reasonable life?! I didn't want to have a family given the impoverished life I experienced and I made the right decision not to have children... I'm sure the developers made a whack from building these new towns....
We need to find the lady in this film
Yes definitely! I'd love to how she is and where she is now
from the word go that the women of Easterhous were never going to be allowed to own there on home, so what was the point in trying
the women of easter house were not allowed to have a referendum on prohibition, but had to accept the possibility of a sore face behind closed doors, to please the elbow benders.
Does anyone remember the Dobbies.
No but i knew a few dobbers
Deserts wae Windeas 🤣😂
Daisy cutter need
Easter hoose, Drumchapel castlemilk arden thornliebank barrowfield Springburn, this is the story in all of these places, all the same, threw together loads of house which aye, we're far better than where the lived before but there was heehaw but hooses
8:57 holy ef thats a big living room
Yes, the flats at least had good sized rooms. But the streets and blocks themselves were claustrophobic.
Before foodbanks, everybody pitched in and looked after each other
er no they didnt mate i was raised in provenhall easterhouse in 80s/90 and it was terrible had to que up for free food from EEC so lets not think we all helped etc then it was just as bad except there was no food banks etc
@@bobosborne1573 agree
@@bobosborne1573 Castlemilk Unemployed Workers Centre was the same at the time. I don't forget what Europe done for Scotland in the 80's and 90's.
Great people in all the housing estates of Glasgow.
Local government and goody two shoe types ,arrive to appease their own social conscience then after massaging their patronising ,condescending egos retturn to their boring existence outside the schemes.
Their present agenda is mollcoddling bogus asylum seekers ,mostly young muslim men / wee boys with beards and massaging themselves thus.
Mollycoddle oor ain ,gie yer ain folk amenities and work and the schemes will thrive ,they dinnae need inner city do gooding commuting visitors but work and facilities.
easterhouse is a living example of animal farm think about it.
Fine woman the brunette. I wonder what happens to her.
Great video of the problems of the time. Who is the woman in the car talking? She is very switched on about society’s issues.
Shotts!
I am from Liverpool greatest city in the u k fact not biased we change things from the inner city and took control
Both Liverpool and Glasgow very similar bud 👍
Yes you are biased . Liverpool is not even close to being the best city in the uk . Stop that .
I like your loyalty but your so wrong...not even in the top 10.
Top city love the place but Glasgow is the best city in the world never mind the uk fuck New York
Sshhhhhh...
Look at those outlines... Geeze.
Wow, michael jackson produced this
Hahahahaha ma da told me you’d be pushing a brush and aye granted I was pushing a brush hahahahaha
I lived there in 80s and 90s great memories but would i bring my kids up here lol no way it was a dump sorry
Do you remember The Voice? Any good community memories? Sadly it was neglected by successive governments
Wanker
Couldnae hack it you mean
That’s counsels for you,looks like it’s turned in to a bit of a shit hole ,one step better then the corbels ,come on counsels tidy the place up and get infrastructure in there up to date if you don’t give the people what they need it will turn in to a geto then it will cost you more to fix the problem
Glengyre street, 60s/70s. Loves it. 🤣😂🤣😂 Drummy ya bass. 😂🤣😂🤣
The 2nd video the black guy says we asked him to be 🤫 until scum cane he didnt so we assisted him to be quiet 😂🤣😭
I lived there for 6 years in the 1980s. But I escaped.
fuckin reggae?
YES SCOTLAND
No not Scotland per say just a very badly planned part of it totally unlike any other part. The only thing any way resembling Scotland was the heart of the people who lived there
The girl doing a lot of the talking is so patronising and condescending. When talking about her mother with her Glasgow uni accent, it put me off.
Same old story, still the same today, no proper representation for the working class....
So very true!
I guess you were kinda fucked if you didnt have a car. I cant imagine the buses were very reliable.
It’s a shame Easterhouse wasn’t and isn’t compared with Shatilla or Beirut or Baghdad and instead of feeling pity they might feel contentment. And they are free to move!
22.10 wisest comment ever. Trying to blame black people for riots in England and the lack of them in Scotland. Lack of private property being the real reason - eloquent man.
Aye that's what it is 😂
I was born and raised in a scheme not unlike this one. I thought my scheme had problems until I came to america and saw some of the worst neighborhoods I had ever seen in my life.
Like walking into a big castle 😂😂😂
I believe there hasn't been riots because their isn't as much black people he in Scotland and Glasgow now their are more and more now coming into social house and people that have been brought up in these areas are finding it hard to be housed due to refuges being a priority look at the difference from 1970s to 2015 and the prof is all their
exactly the same has happened in manchester..all the working class areas like this have been swamped with refugees and foreigners getting priority housing and benefits..it makes me sick :/
@@MancstaSam if you work in your local amazon warehouse you will see its full of africans,middle easterns and south asians totally out numbering the brits or europeans thats why i dont get the brexit argument, you cant blame the eu for all those guys being here and we have banned the ones we have most in common with, i dont get it
Woman looks like the woman from 40 year old virgin forget her name
what men need to think is why there own daughters would turn there back on there heritage. Lol it's sick that wemen keep powerful and strong but do nothings for the sons in this day and age lol nothing to do with any bucks lol