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@@Hat-Trickhe owns the library and he brought the library to the physical world for humans before they broke his trust countless times. The owl is absolutely in the right
@@TheCoastalRipperIt's the most impressive feat of bending anybody ever shows in either this or Korra, we're talking about megatons of force... Or that's how it seems, she probably was just was counteracting whatever the owl was doing.
@@Yewtewba so we’re just going to ignore Kyoshi and Aang creating entire islands, Aang throwing rocks the size of skyscrapers like they’re pebbles, and casually flooding an entire valley Also Toph’s library feat was kilotons of TNT at most, other feats have been calculated to be more
@@phoebusapollo8365we are talking about a normal bender out here.. Not the freaking avatar! 😂 Avatars are born naturally as strong benders with countless life times of experience when they're fully realised avatars .. as far as I know, kiyoshi and aang where fully realised avatars when they achieved their feats like splitting islands and whatnot Meanwhile you have a blind child with only 12 years of experience and few years being mentored (basically self taught if it wasn't for the badger moles) and she held her ground against an ancient spirit and held that library... Not to mention that she invented and MASTERED an entire branch of bending at that age too To me... She is a great bender and I bet she is more talented than some avatars..
Sokka gave Katara a lesson in season 1 during the episode with the pirates about how stealing is wrong and then proceeds to steal from an owl's library and kicks his ass lol
I have a really handy trick to memorizing character names, if they are from the Earth nation their name is Lee, if they are from the water tribes their name is Lee, if they are from the fire nation their name is Lee, if they are from the Air Nomads their name is Aang.
There's a sad irony in the fact that the day the Owl gives up on humanity is the day he finally finds a human who appreciates knowledge as much as him.
There might be if that was actually what happened, but it isn't. Wan Shi Tong gave up on humanity years before this episode takes place, back when Zhao learned about the physical identity of the moon and ocean spirits. This was just a matter of him losing his temper. He lost faith in humanity a long time ago, but NOW they genuinely pissed him off.
@kingofbudokai But he still left the library in the physical world after Zhao's visit. There's definitely no doubt Zhao deeply hurt Wan Shi Tong, but on the Avatar's word, he allowed the group to look through the library. Then, after he was betrayed by the Avatar, Wan Shi Tong decided to move his library out of the reach of humans forever. To me, that says he still had a tiny sliver of hope for humanity. But that hope was smashed by the Avatar's betrayal.
This episode is so interesting just because Wan Shi Tong (the owl) is absolutely right. He has seen human history in this world, which we can assume has had countless wars, and he has seen them use knowledge for conflict repeatedly. Even his last visitor, Zhao, used the knowledge he learned about the Moon and Ocean spirits to try to cripple the Northern Water Tribe, as well as all Waterbenders everywhere, forever. Why shouldn't he believe that humans will always do this? We always have (in real life and in Avatar)! And even despite this, when our characters, THE GOOD GUYS, come in, he gives them the benefit of the doubt. He doesn't trust them to be any different, but he lets them in to learn all the same. And keep in mind, all three of these characters- Sokka, Katara, and Aang (and the Professor too although we haven't really known him long) are genuinely good people! But all the same, they lie to Wan Shi Tong's face, and use his knowledge to wage war. Even the heroes are just as corruptable as he thinks. Sokka lied to get knowledge on how to better fight against his enemies, and Aang and Katara went right along with it. And do you know what the real kicker of this all is? There are no consequences! Appa gets taken, but thats largely unrelated, so if you want to argue its cosmic retribution, I won't argue with you, but nothing directly happens to the 3 who went inside. The professor stays of course, but by his own choice. Sokka, in particular, lies to him, steals from him, and then beats him over the head with a club, all for the goal of hurting the Fire Nation, and faces no consequences for his actions. Our heroes lied to get ahead, pay no price, and have a path to victory because of it. And Sokka is literally in the top 10, if not top 5 of best people in the series. Like I love Sokka, he's amazing. One of my favorites. But if he is one of the best, and yet capable of this, then what does that mean for humans as a whole? That damn owl is completely right about us.
This episode always breaks my heart for Toph. Its already a bad environment for her because of the sand, yet she still holds up the GIANT LIBRARY for at least several minutes, while trying to stop the sand benders a few times, eventually having to let them take Appa right next to her.
I theorize that she held up the library for at least 30-40 min. If you factor in the fact that Aang and Sokka went through THREE MONTHS of searching dates and being chased by the owl before&after checking the dates… it makes sense to me lol
@@aamirreacts1993well they broke into their library first, he gave them a chance. They broke their promise first, so i’d say it’s justifiable to sink them into the sand.
@@aamirreacts1993 I can break into your house and steal your valuables. And you try to kick me out and get what's yours back, and I'll defeat you. Bottom line: you're unconscious, your house is destroyed, I'm gone with everything. My excuse is self-defence.
@@aamirreacts1993 He tried to sunk them *after* they broke into his place and stole his stuff. By any means the self defence is on the Owl side, not them.
This is my favorite episode of the season cuz I love libraries and I went to a planetarium some time after this aired. Sooo cool. Shout out to Toph for holding an entire building up for who knows how long Sokka’s a felon😭😭
Many of us agree with you that Wan Shi Tong was the victim here and his actions were justified. Team Avatar handled the situation poorly from the beginning. Instead of lying that they were only "looking for knowledge for knowledge's sake", they should have been more honest about their intent but reframe it in a way that would make more sense to a spirit, i.e. seeking information to help end the 100 year war and restore balance. You'd expect that spirits wouldn't be too interested in human politics or conflicts but they do seem interested the maintenance of "balance" in the world and the fact that is one of the Avatar's duties. Although visually the Library is being buried, Wan Shi Tong isn't taking it underground. He mentioned that he brought his Library from the spirit world to the physical world in order to share his knowledge with humans so when he says he's "taking [his] library back", he means that he's taking it back to the spirit world so humans can no longer access it. Ironically, Professor Zei was exactly the kind of patron, Wan Shi Tong desired, someone who is truly only interested in knowledge for knowledge's sake.
I doubt reframing it that way would do anything, Wan Shi Tong already said he distrust humans for using knowledge to destroy enemies so even if it was for ending the war he probably wouldn't care and deny entry entirely. 1. You could be correct in he want's knowledge to grow and a war doesn't facilitate that or 2. He is so neutral to human politics that he doesn't care what happens only gaining the information as knowledge/history to record later.
2 things i love about this episode besides the obvious ones that we all love: - I love the idea of having to bring knowledge to the library to enjoy it. - i love the idea that the professor love knowledge so much that he chose to die with it.
I'm SO glad you guys agree that Wan Shi Tong was done dirty. I'm also glad Sokka lost you in this episode. Not many people I've seen take that stance like I do, so it feels nice to feel vindicated.
@@kairostimeYT He is already and inventor tho, he helped to develop the zeppelin back in the air temple. It was a small gig sure but he is kinda already showing hints
Man I love the characters in this show. You guys were right, the owls badass and honestly got done dirty by the gaang like the other comments are saying. I love the professor even more though probably lol. Huge optimist and one of the few characters who are genuinely into aang bc he’s the last of a culture not cause he’s the avatar. And it’s pretty badass to find your life’s passion, and when it starts sinking, to just be like yeah, nah I’m good here
I never realized that the professor never even asked about the avatar. He was more interested in air nomad agriculture and talking to Appa, really wish he would have survived
I'm team Owl he literally gave them a set of rules to follow and they'd be welcomed and they chose to break the rules beat up the Owl amd rob him. Justice for the Owl!!
Okay, so tiny detail. If you rewatch the Gaang after they leave the tower, Aang ends up dropping Katara on her face. 10/10 rizz 🤣 Especially after the fact that the first thing Katara searched up when entering the largest library in existence was information about Aang.
Appa getting stolen by the Sand Benders broke me big time, I can't get through the ending of this episode and "Appa's Lost Days" without balling my eyes out but it''l make me worse when they do it in live-action
Wow nice theory about the professor, never thought of that…I doubt the owl would want to kill a man of knowledge, if he’s as wise as he boasts he’d want to preserve/cultivate the man’s knowledge
Perfect way to show the character introduced as this near unstoppable beast with crazy abilities as vulnerable while simultaneous not just "Kryptoniting" her - she still shows her insane ability by both finding the library underground and holding up for as long as she did (much longer than shown om-screen, given the timescale fades when Aang and Sokka were checking the planetarium dates) but highlighting her weakness both in the sand limiting her current abilities while creating the Superman problem. Meaning she, as strong as she is, still has room to grow and improve and, like Superman, is faced with the dilemma of not being able to handle every crisis at once.
The thing with avatar is that every season gets better and more mature while still having its own silliness personally based on rating and popularity season 3 is the best season and season 2 is 2nd best season of the franchise
I actually love how complex this show truly is. They're not afraid to create discussions about morality that some shows don't do these days because of wokism and DEI. On the hand, the piece of intel they gathered from here was valuable to possibly saving the world and stopping the forces of evil. Yet on the other hand, they did it by betraying the owl as you said. Is worth it to sacrifice an individual for the sake of many? Is it right to violate the neutrality of spirits in this case? It is what makes the show so timeless and a piece of art that no other shows I've seen since can replicate. And the thing is, I discover new things with every rewatch. It really is the show that keeps on giving.
You're not supposed to see the Owl as in the wrong. But the Gaang is also right. They need that information. It's crucial. Of course they're going to lie to the Owl. Both the Owl and the Gaang are both in the right and in the wrong at the same time. That's what's supposed to be so conflicting about this episode. It's that the Owl doesn't realize that these are the people who are trying to END the war, not that they're the ones waging war on others. But he's also right that humans are always fighting and abusing knowledge for power. The Gaang isn't wrong for lying to the Owl and getting the information they need. When you think about it, you just end up going in circles. But that's honestly the point. The Owl deserved Professor Zei, someone who just appreciated knowledge for knowledge's sake. But the Gaang went there for a specific reason and they weren't going to let some out of touch Spirit stop them. This is life and death.
3:43: "I don't want to make a blind joke, but she wouldn't understand." I'm with you. I was going to make a blind joke, but I just don't see the point.
the way ange is PISSED about the mistreatment of the owl 😭😭 sorry but what were they supposed to do... he's an ancient spirit (who will be completely fine buried under there) and we got a war to end babes!
See, I'm with Sokka on this one. Zao was a tyrant while the gaang is fighting tyranny. Anyone who tries to draw a false equivalency between these two positions is morally lazy at best and evil at worst. Knowledge horded is knowledge wasted. You have to put it to use to make it worthwhile. The owl is just greedy and hides behind false noble ideals.
This makes sense from a human perspective but the Owl isn't human. It doesn't care for human ideals or conflicts so it has no reason to prefer one over the other. The owl is fundamentally amoral.
Granted everyone is to blame for betraying Wan Shi Tong, but I was especially mad at Sokka this episode. He was the one who practically dragged the whole team into his lie in the first place. The guy threw Aang's Avatar title around as a cover which is not a cool thing to do to a friend imo. Honestly, they could've still reasoned with him to get access. Also, if they didn't steal, wrote down the important info, and kept their mouths shut, they would've been out in time to save Appa. 🤷♀️
I mean they did the owl dirty yeah but they also wanted to gain knowledge on how to defeat the military country that is waging war on the entire world for about 100 years so i think its a little bit justified xD
I cannot wait to see your guys’ reaction to Aang in the next episode. I feel like that one was really hard for you two to watch considering Aang is one of your faves, if he isn’t your overall #1 ❤️ P.S. - Aang is my top character, doesn’t matter how many times I watch The Desert, every time is painful for me
Wan Shi Tong, the self-proclaimed guardian of knowledge, claims a position of moral superiority by restricting humanity's access to his vast library. However, his actions reveal a stark apathy towards the world's suffering. By hoarding knowledge during a time of crisis, such as the war with the Fire Nation, he betrays his supposed role as a wise overseer. True moral superiority would compel him to use his wisdom to aid and protect those in need. Instead, his detachment and refusal to share critical information make him complicit in the very suffering he claims to rise above. Moreover, Wan Shi Tong’s stance is hypocritical. He criticizes humans for seeking knowledge, yet he has built his collection through the efforts of his "foxy" assistants, who likely gather-and potentially steal-information from the human world. This double standard is glaring; he benefits from human knowledge while denying others the chance to use it for good. His blanket judgment of humanity fails to recognize the potential for positive change in individuals like Aang and Sokka. They sought his knowledge not out of greed, but out of a desperate need to restore balance and peace. By withholding this critical information, Wan Shi Tong not only fails in his responsibility to use his power wisely but also perpetuates the very cycle of distrust and division he decries.
Imma save y’all the trouble 🤣 y’all won’t be seeing that guy again. The Owl took his library back to the spirit realm and him with it. I’m sure he’s fine since he’s a true scholar and the Owl likes that. He’s definitely reading for ever tho. Also the story will be very sad from now on brace yourself 👀 can’t wait for Tales of Ba Sing Se
I hate the blame Sokka gets 1 thing saving the world is most important and their own goal for peace The other thing is the definition of a library is a building or room containing collections of books, periodicals, and sometimes films and recorded music for use or borrowing by the public or the members of an institution If Wan Shi didn't call it a library I'd agree but he did So it's not his choice how the knowledge is used He should have taking it into the spirit realm after Zhao if he didn't want this to happen The humans the living world is more important and to team avatar its their job to save it And it is not Sokkas fault Appa got taken (some commenters are saying) yes he wasn't very nice in this episode but even if the tower wasn't falling Aang and Co wouldn't have known he was in Danger and just taking longer in the library (because of no rush) And Toph would have never been able to defend against them anyway because she wouldn't be able to feel them
Trust me the owl is FINE be more concerned for Appa. Sokka was definitely looking at the bigger picture. As far as professor Zay goes he is completely screwed due to his own stupidity.
So, the Owl couldn’t make up for his mistake of helping the villain kill the moon spirit? By helping the Avatar with information about the enemy? Nah, you lost me on this one Ange
it's true that Owl deserves better, but in the current situation to defeat the invasion it's the only way. It's not encouraged, but without it the fire mages will just take over the world and anyway everything on earth including libraries will be invaded and destroyed. Aang's team is no killers compared to the invaders.
I think I’m a sokka apologist, he’s just very goal oriented, his goal being saving the world, and he’s gonna do whatever it takes. He probably should’ve been more respectful/honest but 🤷🏼♂️
I don't feel bad for the Owl at all. He is hoarding knowledge that is not his & he is withholding it from the world. It should be shared for better or worse.
Its a spirit library. It was never man-kind's to use by default. He was sharing it with others as a courtesy, and they used the knowledge he provided them to commit horribly violent acts against others. I would be mad at people misusing my library for such corrupt purposes and would also take the library back to the spirit world. Wan Shi Tong doesn't owe humanity anything. Their greed shouldn't be his concern. Wan Shi Tong did nothing wrong.
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Sucks to lose Appa, but my heart really goes out to the owl. Man had his home invaded.
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Code Geass pls
They broke his trust! I'm definitely on the Owl's side here!!
Anti-Owl here. They shouldn’t have lied to him, but it’s not like he owns that knowledge. He takes it from the world.
@@Hat-Trickhe owns the library and he brought the library to the physical world for humans before they broke his trust countless times. The owl is absolutely in the right
Wan Shi Tong was a hoarder that doesn't like sharing 🙄🤣
Yeah that's general Zhao, It's how he found out about the moon and ocean spirit. Also Toph holding up the entire library is insane
Admiral Zhao.
He said in Book 1 that he had discovered the library when he was a young lieutenant.
Wait, wasn't she just earthbending? She didn't hold the library using her muscle strength, did she?
@@TheCoastalRipperIt's the most impressive feat of bending anybody ever shows in either this or Korra, we're talking about megatons of force... Or that's how it seems, she probably was just was counteracting whatever the owl was doing.
@@Yewtewba so we’re just going to ignore Kyoshi and Aang creating entire islands, Aang throwing rocks the size of skyscrapers like they’re pebbles, and casually flooding an entire valley
Also Toph’s library feat was kilotons of TNT at most, other feats have been calculated to be more
@@phoebusapollo8365we are talking about a normal bender out here.. Not the freaking avatar! 😂
Avatars are born naturally as strong benders with countless life times of experience when they're fully realised avatars .. as far as I know, kiyoshi and aang where fully realised avatars when they achieved their feats like splitting islands and whatnot
Meanwhile you have a blind child with only 12 years of experience and few years being mentored (basically self taught if it wasn't for the badger moles) and she held her ground against an ancient spirit and held that library... Not to mention that she invented and MASTERED an entire branch of bending at that age too
To me... She is a great bender and I bet she is more talented than some avatars..
"I don't wanna make a blind joke", don't worry, Toph will do it for you.
nah, the gaang pulled up to the owls crib stole his knowledge and slapped him up 🤣🤣🤣 justice for Wan Shi Tong
Sokka gave Katara a lesson in season 1 during the episode with the pirates about how stealing is wrong and then proceeds to steal from an owl's library and kicks his ass lol
wouldnt be the other way around? Katara thought him that stealing is ok sometimes...
I have a really handy trick to memorizing character names, if they are from the Earth nation their name is Lee, if they are from the water tribes their name is Lee, if they are from the fire nation their name is Lee, if they are from the Air Nomads their name is Aang.
That's dark, but INCREDIBLY funny!
There's a sad irony in the fact that the day the Owl gives up on humanity is the day he finally finds a human who appreciates knowledge as much as him.
There might be if that was actually what happened, but it isn't. Wan Shi Tong gave up on humanity years before this episode takes place, back when Zhao learned about the physical identity of the moon and ocean spirits. This was just a matter of him losing his temper. He lost faith in humanity a long time ago, but NOW they genuinely pissed him off.
@kingofbudokai But he still left the library in the physical world after Zhao's visit. There's definitely no doubt Zhao deeply hurt Wan Shi Tong, but on the Avatar's word, he allowed the group to look through the library. Then, after he was betrayed by the Avatar, Wan Shi Tong decided to move his library out of the reach of humans forever.
To me, that says he still had a tiny sliver of hope for humanity. But that hope was smashed by the Avatar's betrayal.
He never cared about humanity if he was on Ozai's side
@@shapeshifter7676for you to somehow come to the conclusion that Wan Shi Tong was on Ozai’s side had to have taken some serious mental gymnastics
@@shapeshifter7676 Ozai's side? How the h did you end up with that conclusion?
This episode is so interesting just because Wan Shi Tong (the owl) is absolutely right. He has seen human history in this world, which we can assume has had countless wars, and he has seen them use knowledge for conflict repeatedly. Even his last visitor, Zhao, used the knowledge he learned about the Moon and Ocean spirits to try to cripple the Northern Water Tribe, as well as all Waterbenders everywhere, forever. Why shouldn't he believe that humans will always do this? We always have (in real life and in Avatar)! And even despite this, when our characters, THE GOOD GUYS, come in, he gives them the benefit of the doubt. He doesn't trust them to be any different, but he lets them in to learn all the same. And keep in mind, all three of these characters- Sokka, Katara, and Aang (and the Professor too although we haven't really known him long) are genuinely good people! But all the same, they lie to Wan Shi Tong's face, and use his knowledge to wage war. Even the heroes are just as corruptable as he thinks. Sokka lied to get knowledge on how to better fight against his enemies, and Aang and Katara went right along with it.
And do you know what the real kicker of this all is? There are no consequences! Appa gets taken, but thats largely unrelated, so if you want to argue its cosmic retribution, I won't argue with you, but nothing directly happens to the 3 who went inside. The professor stays of course, but by his own choice. Sokka, in particular, lies to him, steals from him, and then beats him over the head with a club, all for the goal of hurting the Fire Nation, and faces no consequences for his actions. Our heroes lied to get ahead, pay no price, and have a path to victory because of it.
And Sokka is literally in the top 10, if not top 5 of best people in the series. Like I love Sokka, he's amazing. One of my favorites. But if he is one of the best, and yet capable of this, then what does that mean for humans as a whole?
That damn owl is completely right about us.
Feels for Toph here. Tough choice in a bad environment but she did what she had to 😢
Toph choice indeed
This episode always breaks my heart for Toph. Its already a bad environment for her because of the sand, yet she still holds up the GIANT LIBRARY for at least several minutes, while trying to stop the sand benders a few times, eventually having to let them take Appa right next to her.
I theorize that she held up the library for at least 30-40 min. If you factor in the fact that Aang and Sokka went through THREE MONTHS of searching dates and being chased by the owl before&after checking the dates… it makes sense to me lol
@@ray_rayy24 that would be absolutely insane of her
i agree with this title!! they literally broke into wan shi tong’s library, beat him up and then stole his books 😭😭 bunch of thugs lol
Well he kinda literally tried to sunk them into the sand so it was self defense if nothing else
@@aamirreacts1993well they broke into their library first, he gave them a chance. They broke their promise first, so i’d say it’s justifiable to sink them into the sand.
@@aamirreacts1993 I can break into your house and steal your valuables. And you try to kick me out and get what's yours back, and I'll defeat you. Bottom line: you're unconscious, your house is destroyed, I'm gone with everything. My excuse is self-defence.
@@aamirreacts1993 He tried to sunk them *after* they broke into his place and stole his stuff. By any means the self defence is on the Owl side, not them.
The gaang lost me during this episode. What they did was scummy! I'm definitely on the Owl's side here.
Katara: I thought you said stealing was wrong.
Sokka: It is..... unless it's from a knowledge spirit who called me dumb.
Yeah, they should've let Ozai win instead. That'd be much better
Carle missed a pun. at 9.03....
He's trying to get the 'Appa' hand 😅
This is my favorite episode of the season cuz I love libraries and I went to a planetarium some time after this aired. Sooo cool.
Shout out to Toph for holding an entire building up for who knows how long
Sokka’s a felon😭😭
Many of us agree with you that Wan Shi Tong was the victim here and his actions were justified. Team Avatar handled the situation poorly from the beginning. Instead of lying that they were only "looking for knowledge for knowledge's sake", they should have been more honest about their intent but reframe it in a way that would make more sense to a spirit, i.e. seeking information to help end the 100 year war and restore balance. You'd expect that spirits wouldn't be too interested in human politics or conflicts but they do seem interested the maintenance of "balance" in the world and the fact that is one of the Avatar's duties.
Although visually the Library is being buried, Wan Shi Tong isn't taking it underground. He mentioned that he brought his Library from the spirit world to the physical world in order to share his knowledge with humans so when he says he's "taking [his] library back", he means that he's taking it back to the spirit world so humans can no longer access it. Ironically, Professor Zei was exactly the kind of patron, Wan Shi Tong desired, someone who is truly only interested in knowledge for knowledge's sake.
I doubt reframing it that way would do anything, Wan Shi Tong already said he distrust humans for using knowledge to destroy enemies so even if it was for ending the war he probably wouldn't care and deny entry entirely. 1. You could be correct in he want's knowledge to grow and a war doesn't facilitate that or 2. He is so neutral to human politics that he doesn't care what happens only gaining the information as knowledge/history to record later.
Toph holding the entire thing for that long was incredible.
2 things i love about this episode besides the obvious ones that we all love:
- I love the idea of having to bring knowledge to the library to enjoy it.
- i love the idea that the professor love knowledge so much that he chose to die with it.
8:08 "Nice owl." "It IS!!!"
That aged well 😂😂
I’m ready to watch my favorite scene from the entire series at the next chapter.❤ such a great reaction
I'm SO glad you guys agree that Wan Shi Tong was done dirty. I'm also glad Sokka lost you in this episode.
Not many people I've seen take that stance like I do, so it feels nice to feel vindicated.
15:20 That would been a dope side quest later
I really like this theory.
Tfw you realize Sokka, the strategist and inventor, got called dumb by a knowledge spirit 😂
@@kairostimeYT He is already and inventor tho, he helped to develop the zeppelin back in the air temple. It was a small gig sure but he is kinda already showing hints
What does TFW means? I never heard this one before
@@davidking59108 I means "That feeling when"
@@kairostimeYT His sexism goes away in like the first couple of episodes.
Man I love the characters in this show. You guys were right, the owls badass and honestly got done dirty by the gaang like the other comments are saying. I love the professor even more though probably lol. Huge optimist and one of the few characters who are genuinely into aang bc he’s the last of a culture not cause he’s the avatar. And it’s pretty badass to find your life’s passion, and when it starts sinking, to just be like yeah, nah I’m good here
I never realized that the professor never even asked about the avatar. He was more interested in air nomad agriculture and talking to Appa, really wish he would have survived
I'm team Owl he literally gave them a set of rules to follow and they'd be welcomed and they chose to break the rules beat up the Owl amd rob him. Justice for the Owl!!
Get ready for probably the most emotional/stressful stretch of episodes in the whole show
Okay, so tiny detail. If you rewatch the Gaang after they leave the tower, Aang ends up dropping Katara on her face. 10/10 rizz 🤣
Especially after the fact that the first thing Katara searched up when entering the largest library in existence was information about Aang.
from here on out until the end of the book is my fav !! appa retrieval and ba sing parts so elite !!
Appa getting stolen by the Sand Benders broke me big time, I can't get through the ending of this episode and "Appa's Lost Days" without balling my eyes out but it''l make me worse when they do it in live-action
Don't worry about the foxes! They are spirits as well and they are totally fine haha they just returned to the spirit world along with the library
There goes Appa again. Ah, and here comes my depression again. Right on time.
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Wow nice theory about the professor, never thought of that…I doubt the owl would want to kill a man of knowledge, if he’s as wise as he boasts he’d want to preserve/cultivate the man’s knowledge
Watch the Legend of Korra if you want to find out what happened to the professor, hint hint.
Fun fact! The owl is Joe from Princess Diaries!
Oh boy we're at those episodes
"It's a nice owl." Too soon😂
3:45 that was savage from Ange 😂😂
watching AtLA as an adult is being on the owl's side
Agreed, justice for the owl spirit!
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I felt so bad for Toph, she fought so hard to save Appa and watching them take him away broke my heart💔😢
Perfect way to show the character introduced as this near unstoppable beast with crazy abilities as vulnerable while simultaneous not just "Kryptoniting" her - she still shows her insane ability by both finding the library underground and holding up for as long as she did (much longer than shown om-screen, given the timescale fades when Aang and Sokka were checking the planetarium dates) but highlighting her weakness both in the sand limiting her current abilities while creating the Superman problem. Meaning she, as strong as she is, still has room to grow and improve and, like Superman, is faced with the dilemma of not being able to handle every crisis at once.
The owl did not deserve this treatment 😢they started stealing his stuff and came into his house 😂
The thing with avatar is that every season gets better and more mature while still having its own silliness personally based on rating and popularity season 3 is the best season and season 2 is 2nd best season of the franchise
The blind jokes never get old!!!😂😂😂
i love the whole appa saga. i hope you like it too
I actually love how complex this show truly is. They're not afraid to create discussions about morality that some shows don't do these days because of wokism and DEI.
On the hand, the piece of intel they gathered from here was valuable to possibly saving the world and stopping the forces of evil. Yet on the other hand, they did it by betraying the owl as you said. Is worth it to sacrifice an individual for the sake of many? Is it right to violate the neutrality of spirits in this case?
It is what makes the show so timeless and a piece of art that no other shows I've seen since can replicate.
And the thing is, I discover new things with every rewatch. It really is the show that keeps on giving.
2:44 HAWK TUAHH spit on that thang
Wow y'all are really growing in subs quickly. Last time I checked y'all were at 200k. Now y'all are at 206k. Y'all deserve it.
You're not supposed to see the Owl as in the wrong. But the Gaang is also right. They need that information. It's crucial. Of course they're going to lie to the Owl. Both the Owl and the Gaang are both in the right and in the wrong at the same time. That's what's supposed to be so conflicting about this episode. It's that the Owl doesn't realize that these are the people who are trying to END the war, not that they're the ones waging war on others. But he's also right that humans are always fighting and abusing knowledge for power. The Gaang isn't wrong for lying to the Owl and getting the information they need. When you think about it, you just end up going in circles. But that's honestly the point. The Owl deserved Professor Zei, someone who just appreciated knowledge for knowledge's sake. But the Gaang went there for a specific reason and they weren't going to let some out of touch Spirit stop them. This is life and death.
This owl creeper me the hell out growing up especially in one of the avatar PS2 games(avatar book 2)😹
What's interesting is that the fox is about the only animal that is not cross bread with other animals
This whole situation about Appa makes me so anxious that I don't look forward to watching the next episodes' reactions but I will anyway 😭
Wan 👏Shi 👏Tong👏did👏nothing👏wrong!
3:43: "I don't want to make a blind joke, but she wouldn't understand."
I'm with you. I was going to make a blind joke, but I just don't see the point.
the way ange is PISSED about the mistreatment of the owl 😭😭 sorry but what were they supposed to do... he's an ancient spirit (who will be completely fine buried under there) and we got a war to end babes!
Poor Appa 😢
Sokka was a savage this episode 😅
What a crazy episode
One of my favorite episodes of the entire series
See, I'm with Sokka on this one. Zao was a tyrant while the gaang is fighting tyranny. Anyone who tries to draw a false equivalency between these two positions is morally lazy at best and evil at worst.
Knowledge horded is knowledge wasted. You have to put it to use to make it worthwhile. The owl is just greedy and hides behind false noble ideals.
This makes sense from a human perspective but the Owl isn't human. It doesn't care for human ideals or conflicts so it has no reason to prefer one over the other. The owl is fundamentally amoral.
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Excellent point!
They have two completely different moral perspectives.
Great reaction!
underappreciated dewey decimal system reference from carlie
Yall know that Aang is a sweet little guy and can't hurt a fly...but next episode 😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤
not you guys theorizing about the professor coming back when we actually see his dried corpse in Korra
Gotta love Toph 😂
This is where the fun begins.
This is where the "fun" begins.
It was a necessary brake of trust lol
"You humans are all the same" is an odd response to people trying to stop bloody global conquest. That owl deserved nothing
can't wait for the next episode to release 😩
To be fair, Sokka does what needs to be done. They'd be screwed without him
It was zhou thats how he found about the moon and ocean spirits
This episode was 'Animal Cruelty' special 💔
Not this one. Appa's lost days is the animal cruelty special
i always felt bad for Mr. Owl :'c
damn thats a fire theory.
they brek into the owl house and stole his stuffs. that is gonna had consequences.
You can blame Appa being kidnapped on Sokka. If he didn’t lie, no sinking library. If the library doesn’t sink, then Toph could protect Appa
You could watch Key's ovas: Planetarian chiisana hoshi no yume
Justice for OWL
7:49 What? how does the owl have rizz? 😭😭😭
I told you the animals are fiiinee
16:21 The one that steals faces does have a mother though 😏
And so it begins…
Granted everyone is to blame for betraying Wan Shi Tong, but I was especially mad at Sokka this episode. He was the one who practically dragged the whole team into his lie in the first place. The guy threw Aang's Avatar title around as a cover which is not a cool thing to do to a friend imo. Honestly, they could've still reasoned with him to get access. Also, if they didn't steal, wrote down the important info, and kept their mouths shut, they would've been out in time to save Appa. 🤷♀️
I mean they did the owl dirty yeah but they also wanted to gain knowledge on how to defeat the military country that is waging war on the entire world for about 100 years so i think its a little bit justified xD
100%
They did what they felt they had to do.
He did what he felt he had to do.
I cannot wait to see your guys’ reaction to Aang in the next episode. I feel like that one was really hard for you two to watch considering Aang is one of your faves, if he isn’t your overall #1 ❤️
P.S. - Aang is my top character, doesn’t matter how many times I watch The Desert, every time is painful for me
Wan Shi Tong, the self-proclaimed guardian of knowledge, claims a position of moral superiority by restricting humanity's access to his vast library. However, his actions reveal a stark apathy towards the world's suffering. By hoarding knowledge during a time of crisis, such as the war with the Fire Nation, he betrays his supposed role as a wise overseer. True moral superiority would compel him to use his wisdom to aid and protect those in need. Instead, his detachment and refusal to share critical information make him complicit in the very suffering he claims to rise above.
Moreover, Wan Shi Tong’s stance is hypocritical. He criticizes humans for seeking knowledge, yet he has built his collection through the efforts of his "foxy" assistants, who likely gather-and potentially steal-information from the human world. This double standard is glaring; he benefits from human knowledge while denying others the chance to use it for good. His blanket judgment of humanity fails to recognize the potential for positive change in individuals like Aang and Sokka. They sought his knowledge not out of greed, but out of a desperate need to restore balance and peace. By withholding this critical information, Wan Shi Tong not only fails in his responsibility to use his power wisely but also perpetuates the very cycle of distrust and division he decries.
Okay chatgpt
I love The Last Airbender, but you two are too smart for this show.
Imma save y’all the trouble 🤣 y’all won’t be seeing that guy again. The Owl took his library back to the spirit realm and him with it. I’m sure he’s fine since he’s a true scholar and the Owl likes that. He’s definitely reading for ever tho. Also the story will be very sad from now on brace yourself 👀 can’t wait for Tales of Ba Sing Se
I hate the blame Sokka gets
1 thing saving the world is most important and their own goal for peace
The other thing is the definition of a library is
a building or room containing collections of books, periodicals, and sometimes films and recorded music for use or borrowing by the public or the members of an institution
If Wan Shi didn't call it a library I'd agree but he did
So it's not his choice how the knowledge is used
He should have taking it into the spirit realm after Zhao if he didn't want this to happen
The humans the living world is more important and to team avatar its their job to save it
And it is not Sokkas fault Appa got taken (some commenters are saying) yes he wasn't very nice in this episode but even if the tower wasn't falling
Aang and Co wouldn't have known he was in Danger and just taking longer in the library (because of no rush)
And Toph would have never been able to defend against them anyway because she wouldn't be able to feel them
Trust me the owl is FINE be more concerned for Appa. Sokka was definitely looking at the bigger picture. As far as professor Zay goes he is completely screwed due to his own stupidity.
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*Toph* training
Ah yes, the "unexpectedly everything went to shit episode"
The fate of the entire world depends on this war, Sorry, I'm not sorry about some owl's feelings.
ah yes.. Appa got stolen.. yaay...
Oh the Appa saga is gonna destroy Carlie. Just like it destroyed some of us back in the day.
the owl is like those scholars and academics who just does the investigations for the sake of doing it instead of using it for helping real people
So, the Owl couldn’t make up for his mistake of helping the villain kill the moon spirit? By helping the Avatar with information about the enemy? Nah, you lost me on this one Ange
it's true that Owl deserves better, but in the current situation to defeat the invasion it's the only way. It's not encouraged, but without it the fire mages will just take over the world and anyway everything on earth including libraries will be invaded and destroyed. Aang's team is no killers compared to the invaders.
I think I’m a sokka apologist, he’s just very goal oriented, his goal being saving the world, and he’s gonna do whatever it takes. He probably should’ve been more respectful/honest but 🤷🏼♂️
I don't feel bad for the Owl at all. He is hoarding knowledge that is not his & he is withholding it from the world. It should be shared for better or worse.
Its a spirit library. It was never man-kind's to use by default. He was sharing it with others as a courtesy, and they used the knowledge he provided them to commit horribly violent acts against others. I would be mad at people misusing my library for such corrupt purposes and would also take the library back to the spirit world. Wan Shi Tong doesn't owe humanity anything. Their greed shouldn't be his concern. Wan Shi Tong did nothing wrong.
justice for Wan Shi Tong!!
Wan shi tong did nkthing wrong
I hinestly hate the "they entered this home" argument, is so american citizen telling you he has a gun on himself all the time
Watch overlord anime plz super good