We Need to Talk About Speculation & Overreactions | The Acolyte: Day Review
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- The acolyte episode 1 and 2 (Lost/ Found and Revenge / Justice) are out, and I have some thoughts!
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Great video, but I think you've misunderstood Mae's test. She, unarmed, needs to kill a Jedi. That's why she says it's impossible.
Qimir questions whether she's allowed to use the Jedi's own lightsaber or if that's cheating, but Qimir is (pretending to be) kinda clueless.
The reason she needs to kill a Jedi unarmed is because "Jedi do not attack the unarmed", so she either succeeds and kills them, or fails and is killed by them, making the Jedi break one of their core rules.
"An Acolyte kills without a weapon" because this is a war of ideals and optics, not of steel or laser.
Much speculation I know, but the test is definitely to kill an armed Jedi without using a weapon, unless I've misunderstood a lot of things.
That was my interpretation as well, but the way Mae was talking about it this time made it seem like the semantics of the lesson may be different and the semantics of what she was saying may not be what it originally appeared, with Qimir is misunderstanding/misrepresenting, though I guess that doesn't fit with what Sol makes sure to highlight in episode 2 and it's probably incorrect.
@@CoreysDatapad You're the first person I've seen to point out the semantics of that statement and I wholeheartedly agree that seems what they're going for with repeating the exact quote that's been paraphrased a number of times, but I can't be sure if they're gonna follow through on it or if they realized it.
I gave up speculating with the Acolyte because they already introduced a number of inconsistencies and random character flips as early as episode 2. It created a canvas where everything the characters say could be either valid or pointless or accidental. We literally have to guess what's meant to have weight and what was an oversight or convenience.
While cliffhangers tend to make me super frustrated, I was pretty engaged in this episode, which was a welcome change. Ultimately they put a lot of weight on episode 5 to stick the landing. I would think Osha wouldn't have a tough time explaining the Kelnacca with the sith figure appearing, but yeah, they clearly have some no name Jedi as a part of that team to be cannon fodder, which should be fun. Also, was that Kel-Dorian Plo Koon or no? I know they're another species that can live fairly long.
Nah that wasn't Plo
@@CoreysDatapad ah gotcha, appreciate you
What's the fun in watching new shows or films if we can't theory craft or analyze them? But yes I agree I think Mae's shop keeper "friend" is likely her master
That's okay imo, it's good even ,with a mystery series . The difference is the "this thing we don't have full context on breaks canon!" crowd. So tiring
@@ziemayet I mean, Ki's age isn't a major thing but this show literally did have to change the canon to have him there lol
Interesting how everyone getting upset over Ki-Adis line in TPM retconning. The real Sith HAVE been extinct for over a millennia. The Acolyte has not mentioned the word Sith at all, from his perspective it’s a force user who leans towards darker intentions.
I do suspect that Mother Koril is "Darth Teeth". I think that if the Jedi defeat "Darth Teeth", and see it's Mother Koril, then they'll just think - oh, we know Koril and she's a witch (not a Sith).
So, when Qui-Gon reports that he thinks a Zabrak wielding a red light saber is a Sith Lord, Ki-Adi-Mundi is unconvinced. He's specifically the one who says, "The Sith have been extinct for a thousand years".
What we see in The Acolyte may be an explanation for why he thinks that. He's familiar with a previous case of a powerful Zabrak wielding a red light saber, and it turned out she was a witch, not a Sith (or so the Jedi think).
To me, this makes sense because the choice of including Ki-Adi-Mundi feels deliberate to me.
Anyway, I enjoy speculating for the same reason as stated in the video. I'm not invested in whether or not my theories are right or wrong. I just think they're neat to think about.
And then there was the time I joked that the Ferrix riot would be started when Deedre Meero kicks B2EMO. What actually happened wasn't quite that exactly, but it was way closer than it reasonably should have been.
This is an awesome connection! Even if Qimir is Darth Teeth, with the possibility that Koril is the Sith master, it still lends itself to the idea that a witch got someone to join her, hence why the Jedi wouldn't immediately link them to the Sith. And seeing someone like Mae added to their numbers, the Jedi would probably dismiss any idea of the Sith since the rule of two is a thing.
Overreactions are definitely tied to this universe
I would of loved to see more of the master. Sadly it will have to wait for next week.
One week of agony!
I would be very disappointed if Mother Korril was the secret Sith or even had a role to play in the temple's destruction. Its faults aside, the last episode did a good job of showing the Jedi apply "darkness" as a label to any group or individual Force-user that doesn't fall in line with them; it would undermine any thoughtfulness there if it turns out the character who most opposed them taking the girls is evil, because that would mean Indara and Sol were 100% right that aggressive opposition to their goals is "dark" and that only they can raise Forceful children safely.
I only recently discovered this channel but it's already up with Star Wars Explained for being among my favorite Star Wars channels. So nice to have someone who's actually being fairly analytical of the show instead of just yelling about their grievances.
Yes I love Corey and Alex🤣 and they look like they could be brothers! We gotta get another collab on a livestream soon!
Ki-Adi-Mundi's appearance bothers me because it's so pointless. Mundi is going to be in his mid 100s during the prequels when he's fighting on the frontline of the Clone Wars. It's my same problem with Yarael Poof and Oppo Rancisis being Council Members in the High Republic where it just feels less creative and makes this image that these characters just always were super old. Plus it's like did this HAVE to be Ki? Is he the only guy in the Order who questions things? Is it to just make him look worse (because Canon already seems like it doesn't like him)?
Edit: It would also be funny if these just were two different characters and "Ki-Adi-Mundi" is just the Cerean equivalent to "John Smith" lol
That's a perfectly fair complaint, even if it's not one I hold personally. I don't feel strongly enough about that either way really, which is why I felt more compelled to address the idea that it was a retcon.
@@CoreysDatapad It's funny because before the High Republic came out I was excited at the possibility of seeing a YOUNG Oppo Rancisis since in Legends he was born around 220 BBY. That way in the later parts of THR (or early parts if they bumped his birth year back like 10-20 years) we could see an old council member back when he was a Padawan or a young Knight. They kept making all these Knights of the Round Table comparisons so I was imagining he could have been this Galahad or Percival figure. A promising young Jedi who does great things and leads to him becoming a Jedi Master and later a council member. I'll admit I was quite disappointed when I saw that he was already on the Council in Light of the Jedi.
What's funny about this is that very few would care about what introducing Ki-Adi does to canon lore (it's not *that* bad by itself) if the story of the Acolyte was compelling in any way. We're all hyper-focused on these issues, because there's really nothing else to talk about.
There's no twin and Osha is the killer / Okay there is a twin and Osha is innocent. Osha doesn't want to go on the mission / Okay she's going on the mission. Mae wants to kill Osha / Mae wants revenge for Osha dying / Osha's alive so Mae doesn't want revenge anymore. Torbin is shielded against all attacks / Torbin lowers his shield to drink poison. Wookie Jedi wow / Wookie Jedi dead...
Thank you for just sharing your unbiased thoughts and pointing out that the ki-adi age and lifespan everyone is referring to is from legends… the canon could have easily changed this. I don’t see why it’s a big deal at all especially because it’s serving the story in an interesting way. The fact that he may be a part of a cover up of intentional ignorance makes it more interesting that this flew under the jedis nose in my opinion…. Also one more things about lifespan and aging… no one seemed to bat an eye in other stories where they make a character still alive at a ridiculously old age or change a lifespan, cad bane and captain Rex for example are involved in action wayyyyyy past their prime. And Rex probably shouldn’t have even lived to the battle of Endor with accelerated aging… my point is lifespan can be played with some as it serves the story and especially with alien species… but people are mad because this is the acolyte and people have to get angry about everything.
You dont see it as a big deal... Changing his birthday by what 40 years? Lol.. Its episode breaking... Now people are grasping at straws trying to say oh well its not cannon because disney.. Lmao.. Nah no wonder this show has horrible ratings.. Its abysmal writing and retconning nonsense is atrocious to say the least..
Again, the birthday was only ever in Legends content. It's like getting upset that Ahsoka or Mando didn't follow the Thrawn trilogy when we knew the Thrawn Trilogy wasn't canon already.
I think it is because it happened at the end of the 4th episode of a show where by this time the writers have lost all the benefit of the doubt, meaning people just do not have faith they are going to use it properly. But there are 4 more episodes so let’s see.
You HAD to have seen the original stat wars in the theater. It was HUGE because it eas like nothing any of us had ever seen.
It was amazing! Like jaws and the exorcist. If Disney and these actors/writors are good.....why cant they come up with original material?
It's like what Discovery was for Star Trek, except for Star Wars..... a straight dumpster fire.
The clear intention of that scene and Ki-Adi-Mundi's line in the prequels is to show that the Jedi have not interacted with the Sith for a staggering amount of time. They don't belive Qui-Gon because they have become complacent and believe the Sith to truly be extinct, not because they run into an extremely powerful red lightsaber wielding dark side user every now and then. You can justify these "little changes" like Ki-Adi's age all you want but it only chips away at the believability that this is one consistent story which it really isn't. Legends created its own problems with Darth Bane being the one to create the rule of 2 fiasco but its clear from watching the prequels that the Sith have always had some form of the rule of 2 and the Jedi didn't just learn about it 100 years prior from literally running into a Sith Lord. These details might not matter to you but it completely takes me out of the story because there is no way the Jedi of the prequel era are supposed to be that stupid or corrupt enough to learn about something like this and never mention it again. Justify it all you want, I don't imagine there is much you won't be able to tip-toe explain away.
Dark side user's aren't automatically sith.
The sith were An ancient order of Force-wielders devoted to the dark side. It's like saying every person who wields the force doesn't automatically make them a jedi
How is it clear that the Sith always had the rule of 2?
@@TheEnecca *"There is no doubt the mysterious warrior was a Sith. Always 2 there are. No more. No less."* -Phantom Menace
@@jameshurcombe2049 Then why do the Jedi correctly asssume in the phantom menace that Darth Maul is a Sith Lord? You are correct not every dark side user is a sith. But he is trained powerful enought to take on 2 Jedi, Has a red lightsaber, and wears the trappings of the Sith, and clearly a member of an orchestrated plot.
@@redfive8486 That doesn't explain anything. On the contrary, it was always an unanswered question as to how the Jedi knew about the rule of two. The point of the rule is that sith can act from the shadows. They surely wouldnt want their exact number to be public information.
It's funny. I enjoyed this episode's actual content more than last weeks, but man, some of that execution with the directing and line deliveries was rough. Excited for next week tho!
I say let the whole story play out. Everyone is rating each episode as if it is the last episode. Let’s see how they finish everything off
if there truly is a actual sith involved in all of this the sith have to win and kill anyone who knows about them otherwise its gonna completely screw up canon even more. why would the jedi suspect the sith have been gone for 1000 years if they learned of a sith 100 or however many years prior
I enjoyed this episode much more, even if it was mostly characters walking.
The introduction of the “Master” at the end was great. Him slowly descending like Count Dooku from Clone Wars 2003 added to the horror of his entrance.
Finally! Someone who actually _liked_ his 'flying'! I though it looked cool, makes him seem more demon-like.
Perhaps it is interesting like a car accident on the side of the highway.
I really like this comparison lol
This comparison is amazing!
Two major issues I have with this show: Fist the lack of cohesive story and arguments to show a story of a darksider so powerful that manage to force push every Jedi in the scene and there is NO mention of that event in any of the prequels. Even if they die, why there is no recollection of that data, Yoda didn't sense it??
Second: Why would the Jedi cover up everything if Yoda is around, Ki Adi Mundi is around?? What would be the point? There is no correlation between the movies (mayor canon source) and this show. The Jedi are suppose to protect the peace and the stability and if a darksider that manage to do that can topple these elements that the Jedi are so fond of, why the cover up?? they should hunt him/her down because of that ability alone and especially his/her master.
The woke show and all that stuff I don't care, but If these major plot holes can't be addressed in some way then this show effectively broke canon, and that for me it's important.
The Jedi in the show do not know that a sith is involved currently, and they ARE hunting them down to find out more. They sent our whole squad. Only we as the audience know that it’s a Sith. And come on, we’ve seen countless feats more impressive than force pushing like 6 people lol especially from a sith.
@@IrrelevantPersondo we as the audience even know that it’s a Sith?
@@IrrelevantPerson But I'm talking about a DARKSIDER, not a Sith, that's the main issue here. No one in the Jedi Council manage to note something and MENTIONED IT in the movies, the master of this darksider?? I'm not even talking about Legends and any of that. and that my friend It's a plot hole
@@ilikemandalorians9861 It's well implied with the part of the Sith code being said in Episode 2.
@@ilikemandalorians9861 I think it was said in an interview or something maybe but based off of what we’ve seen, no
"Seeing a red lightsaber doesn't automatically mean Sith."
Qui-God: "I saw a red lightsaber, it was a Sith Lord."
That isn't the way that discussion goes though. If it was as simple as "red lightsaber means Sith," there wouldn't be any of the pushback he got.
@@CoreysDatapad But if that is true, then why Qui Gon immediately goes "yeah that's a Sith alright"? Probably Disney made a mistake centering around a time period that we know that Plagueis and Sidious are around?
We don't know what his exact thought process there is, but we know he didn't just immediately bring up "red lightsaber" to prove it, and that we've seen other red lightsaber users who people don't just jump to as Sith. Sidious was definitely not around yet, Plaguies might be.
@@CoreysDatapad By time period I meaning so close to the TPM. And of course not every dark sider will be automatically be a Sith. The problem is, and I'm with you in this one, people are talking about Legends, but they don't know the mess before the NJO. Even data supported by the movies, like the length of the executor, was all over the place. But for me, the movies are main Canon. And that's why this "grind my gears". Love your mods BTW
@@CoreysDatapad All Qui-Gon said was he had training in the Jedi arts, so he must be a Sith. The implication here being that anybody with Jedi training, but looking and acting like Maul, must be a Sith. Remember this is independent of EU lore that has Dark Jedi running around.
If any of these Jedi survive, I don't know how they could conclude anything other than that this guy is a Sith. He looks the part, acts the part, and is overwhelmingly strong with the Force.
Mundi is overtly representive of the arrogance of the Jedi in the prequels. He's repeatedly in denial about events conflicting with his/the Jedi understanding of things. I see no conflict between the denialism the Jedi exhibit in this and the later movies.
Now this episode was finally interesting. And for that, I think I’m getting a bit invested in the plot. It’s not really that great, but I give it a 6/10 so far. That ending really carried.
The writing and dialog on this shit pile of a show is just downright bad.
I dropped the series on this chapter. I couldn't watch this anymore.
To me this show is like Kenobi or the later two sequel movies, in that I enjoy everything about the show besides the plot or characters. I love all the set designs and new alien species, but the actual story of the show is so contrived, plot hole ridden, and nonsensical that I couldn’t care less about what happens, bar it negatively impacting some other important aspect of Star Wars lore. That being said, I hope the next episode features the masked Force user wiping the floor with a bunch of those Jedi in a well choreographed lightsaber fight scene that doesn’t cut away as soon as it gets good (@Ahsoka), but since I have little confidence in the makers of this show at all, I’m not expecting much.
Sorry but you can’t say ‘plot-hole ridden’ until the series has actually finished. What might currently be a plot-hole (not that I’ve noticed any) might be answered in a couple of episodes time, so just wait until it’s all over and then see if it still holds up
His birth year isn't stated in canon yet.
I don't watch this show and idc about the plot but how do they manage to make everything look so unconvincing even with reasonable budget.
I always thought that to kill a jedi without a weapon meant to turn them to the dark side. It would break the "Dream". But who knows any more.
Mother Koril cannot be the Sith. We see his/their hand, and they are bare. Koril has markings on the back of her hand and fingers.
Darth Bortles may have the best Sith entrance ever!
Sith havent been around for a thousand years cant be a sith or they just once again destroyed star wars cannon
The more I hear about this show, the worse it gets
Agreed
Yeah the show does have its problem, but man, apparently you cannot even give a proper critique anymore without people going: "tHiS sHoW iS wOkE!!1!11!!1" I guess I'm not a fan of the release schedule, imo it invites unhealthy speculation. Looks like some don't have the patience to let the show cook. Yeah, I think Andor is better, but The Acolyte is still leagues above stuff like Kenobi or BoBF. For what it's worth, I'm just a bit sick of people being so uncivilized in comments sections like this one.
That’s why I tend to keep my distance from the fandom. Being open to both legends and canon. You can’t enjoy ANYTHING without them coming after you like you stole their puppy or something.
@@neofulcrum5013 i fucking agree
Talking about star wars in 2024: no I'm not brave enough for politics
The writing alone is just awful. I feel for the actors bc they're doing their best, but the whole premise of the show is like someone read the back cover of a star wars book and said "hold my beer, I got this"
It really doesn't bother me if they changed Ki's age; it's all in Legends. George Lucas has swept off EU stuff during his run. Even EU creators change stuff around. Star Wars is a mythology; nothing ever aligns perfectly.
Yeah, the talk of legends being 100% consistent is probably bs. I remember hearing Lucas thought most of it was non canon, but rented it out to get more money. That and Red Letter Media's Plinkett reviews on the prequels. They were hated and loathed. That and any large scale media franchise is going to have inconsistencies pop up, especially with multiple writers. Don't want it? Be prepared for new media to take even longer to make, as the show runners have to triple and quadruple check everything for the obsessive smarter than thou internet 'fans'. Nevermind that the first movie has FTL, sound in space, and whatever the death Star is powered by; those are selfishly grandfathered in as "realistic for the setting" aka the stuff fans like gets a pass.
Keep in mind the influence you content creators actually have. Turning people away is a sure fired way to cause Disney to slow down or completely stop producing new content that is way better than the sequels were. I'm loving it for what it is, new stories in a universe I've been watching and following since 1980. Or do you want 30 more years in-between new content?
I don't know how you guys do it, most of us gave up on star wars long ago
Why are you here then, do you still watch it?
yeah you can hide in your lunatic bubble where you believe you're the majority lmfao
Ki went from the youngest member to one of the oldest. What a flip. Oh well, not watching it anymore anyway. I'll dip just like I did in the middle of TLJ. Good luck Corey, don't get a headache trying to foster an online debate. It never ends well.
The beauty of Star Wars is the fan's imagination being triggered by the attention to details in the films and canon shows.
George Lucas imagined and created a large part of the universe but people loved to create new stories with new caracters to expand this universe, with continuity and respect for Lucas ideas. Fans are so in love with the universe they even try to create stories to justify small incoherences and invent stories around it to make them interesting. The best example I can think of is Windu's Lightsaber color. Through the years this phenomenon has established Star Wars expanded universe with many stories and caracters that explained and developped numerous aspects that are not in canon stories.
New canon content is not to follow the legends mandatorily because it's unofficial (and that's for the best imo). We see that well with the sequels that take some ideas here and there from the legends but completely rewright the whole story. However nobody should forget the EU, because it is the fan's imagination speaking to show their love for Star Wars.
The problem I have with this specific show is that it doesn't seem to have the same objective of expanding the Star Wars story with respect for the established universe. There are so much things that are not correct or even wrong I can't believe in the show's credibility.
I'll take the example of Ki Adi-Mundi. His age must adapt for the credibility of the show wich is not as catastrophic as many consider, but it shows that the writers do not care of what the fans established in the Lore. Moreover there were no need to put him there, could have been someone else. But whatever I think it's not important.
What IS important is that Ki is in the Jedi high council in ROTS, wich means he must have a certain mentality. We see in tales of a jedi with Dooku and Windu that jedi that don't strictly follow the code, don't report everything to the jedi council and don't follow orders are not to siege at the council. We can see the same with Obi-Wan and Anakin, the same with Qui-Gon. At this time the council is driven by politics and blind to the core Jedi mission, and blind to Palpatine's big plan. This is really important for the prequels plot. Being part of the council in ROTS, Ki Adi-Mundi must embrace the POV of the council. Seeing him in this show hiding the death of several jedi to the council is deeply not in accordance with that attitude and not in accordance with all that we see in the prequels. That takes a fan violently out of the show and put away every ounce of credibility because it is so uncoherent with the established universe. And that's not the only problem with this show but it is one detailled example.
I guess all is not lost, we can create new legends stories that would developp Ki Adi Mundi's caracter and show that he was once undisciplined and later wiser. But the objective of creating new Star Wars content is completely missed
Star Wars fans love attention to details, small thing that remind the audience the writers are aware of the canon and the lore. With this show I get the feeling the writers are not even aware of the canon and this is really difficult to bear for the fan that I am.
I hope you understand my POV, and hope you understand why some fans that consider themselves to be core-fans are so pissed off with that. For us this show doesn't hold in the Star Wars established universe without extremely solid external explainations, and those explainaitions do not exist today
Thank you for being fair in your review. There is far too much overacting going on about this show. The show isn't great but people are picking the wrong things to complain about. I will continue to watch it and hope that they stick the landing.
Well, the assumption that Darth maul was a sith was essentially based on him having a red lightsaber...
Which when you think about is quite a stretch for Qui-Gon to make. It makes sense that the jedi are skeptical
People are so quick to jump to conclusion and it seems like so many people were ready to hate this show since it was announced. Mundi's age coming from such an obscure source and people being furious that it was changed is ridiculous. There are legitimate criticisms for the show, it's far from perfect but saying a change from legends to canon is unnecessary when we haven't even seen if there's a reason why yet is just people refusing to accept any aspect of the show. And if you're someone that plans on telling me there shouldn't have to be a legends and canon, get over yourself. The star wars fandom pisses me off.
Star Wars died with Rogue One...accept it and stop being Disney shills
Ki Adi Mundi being a hundred dosen't really matter to me, Disney Star Wars is fanfiction. The 6 movies and EU are the true canon.
I just don't understand how anyone can watch this show and see any redeeming qualities in it at all. Horrid writing, wooden acting, lore breaking, unreal plot holes. To each his own I suppose, but this show is hot garbage.
What a joke
You definitely are.
@@MicaiahBaron the shows a joke
The only joke here is you specifically coming to this guy's channel just to shit on the show. Get over yourself, bot
i just cant take that sith mary poppins seriously
Ki-Adi Mundi shouldn’t even be born yet
Legends information is not necessarily relevant to Canon.
@@OniLink147 the EU is the canon
Star Wars has two separate timelines with completely different lore and continuity.
Pre-2014 is the Legends timeline, post-2014 is the Disney Canon timeline.
You're allowed to like the Legends continuity more, but it's not a continuity error if a Canon story doesn't stick to Legends info when they're don't share the same lore and continuity.
@@Red-zh7vq The EU is canon to its own timeline. This show does not take place in the EU / Legends timeline, it takes place in the Canon timeline which is its own continuity.
Acolyte doesn't exist.
You're delusional and full of hate. Like a Sith. Congratulations on failing to understand the whole point of the franchise you claim to be a "real fan" of.
If only
Cope and Seethe.
Lmao this is so pathetic
Wdym I can see it on D+ it exists I think?
If it is so easy to write everything inconsistent off as "well it was legends duh" then whats left of Star Wars exaxtly? You guys can go crazy on the "canon" but most fans will stick with the real Star Wars backed by the lore that we all love.
What? There's a pretty clear division between Legends and Canon, this isn't just saying "everything inconsistent was Legends," it's a very clear situation where the inconsistency was the result of information which only appeared on Legends content.
@CoreysDatapad But to accept this fact then we also have to discount the aging lore on Cereans because if we don't then it would be ridiculous that Mundi would not only be still alive in the Clone Wars but active as well. My point is when you start to discount all these things (lore on species, ages etc.) Then what's left of the original lore Lucas and many talentent authors created? Nothing.
@@67thCloneSquadronis there a cannon source on their aging? Does it matter if hes 60 years old or 600? Does it affect the story on anyway to change something that was noted in a single source before? Then it doesnt really change the integrity of anything, remember that a lot of theses "facts" from legends werent considered cannon at all of they didnt come from certain projects, so changing it does nothing
@JJJBunney001 Well, for the new crap your right it doesn't change much at all. But for me, my personal Star Wars has always been reading the essential guides and and rp supplements, so details like this MATTER TO ME! So it does bother me when they blatantly disregard the lore.
Star Wars has two separate timelines with completely different lore and continuity.
Pre-2014 is the Legends timeline, post-2014 is the Disney Canon timeline.
You're allowed to like the Legends continuity more, but it's not a continuity error if a Canon story doesn't stick to Legends info when they're don't share the same lore and continuity.
It’s not overreaction if the show is destroying canon. Why are you defending this so hard.
Which part of canon is it destroying exactly? Ki adi mundis age was legends, not canon, and the Jedi in the show do not know that a sith is involved. Only we as the audience do.
And besides which, if Disney!Canon breaks itself ... so what?
Aside from savouring the irony that the new owners thought that Legends continuity was too unwieldy and swore if they started fresh they would get it all consistent this time (which IMO lasted as far as Episode VIII) only to have this happen, well, guess we all learned something. Transmedia multi-story universes will have just as many contradictions as our own....
I never subscribed to the notion that retrofitted continuity is inherently bad : Tolkien's legendarium had several retcon patches, one of which (between first and second editions of The Hobbit) even becomes a major plot point bridging it with Fellowship of the Ring.
That being said, one wonders how the Story Group earns its keep if they are overall doing less well than Leland Chee did as Keeper of the Holocron....
The overreaction I was talking about in the title is how people overreact to people wanting to speculate, but people are also overreacting to the fact that *Legends* info for Ki-Adi is not true anymore. Hell, if you're a Legends fan and were when it came out, it contradicted itself all the time. If you're going to get angry any time something like that happens I'm not sure how you can be Star Wars fan at all because there's no point in its history where you wouldn't just be perpetually mad.
@@CoreysDatapad Of course, nowadays, some of these seem to have made a career out of being perpetually mad (or in one case, perpetually drunk).
@@CoreysDatapad The difference is the Legends system of Canon was openly tiered from George Lucas Canon downward. Of course there were retcons when the prequels came out and people weren't necessarily happy about that but within each era of Bantam, to Del Rey, to the Clone Wars books up to 2008, they were all internally consistent. Legends was always a step behind George Lucas but it still held together remarkably well considering it was over 20 years of storytelling across different mediums. Disney on the other hand promised one cohesive Canon and have succeeded arguably less than Legends.
This show is so bad it isn’t funny. And where is all the money going? It looks terrible and the episodes are laughably short?
How are you actually defending this crap? This show is openly trying to retcon the prequels and make the Jedi look bad. There is no way they wouldn't go straight to the council. They would know if two jedi masters were murdered. This is insane and terrible writing. Quit shilling for Disney and defending this utter crap
Unsubbed. No time for Disney's woke shills.
What? How was anything in this video woke? Because someone doesnt hate on a show you havent even watched?
How is being woke or a shill? Hes been plenty critical of other projects, have fun being a whiny bitch and losing out on one of the best EU RUclipsrs out there
We need more of this for Star Wars, honest reviews. The incel crybaby minority is sucking up all the air.
This show is so shit :/
Hey @Corey'sDatapad, I have some sincere question, this is not meant to be mean or rude. I am asking genuinely.
Are you a shill?
Are you a clapping seal?👏 🦭
Are you mindless?
Do you love everything Disney puts out without comprehension?
Do you love lore retcons?
Do you enjoy corporate BULLSHIT?
Am fully aware am coming off as means and antagonistic, it's really not my intention Corey. Am asking based on your review and what you actually said here is the time stamp 5:18 - 5:24
Am disappointed. I expect you would love starwars.
Am disappointed in you Corey.
You have issues. Grow up.
Weirdo.