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Honda H'ness CB350 - Detailed Information on Brake Pads
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2023
- In this video I have covered detailed information on the brakes and brake pad issues in 4 different topics.
Below is the time stamp for each topic for ease of skipping to the particular topic:
Topic 1: Different types of brake pads I have used in my Honda H'ness CB350: 2:21
Topic 2: Specifications and performance of Organic, Ceramic and Sintered Brake pads: 10:35
Topic 3: Why Rear Brakes are not as effective as front brakes: 18:39
Topic 4: Braking points and Gear control to get maximum out of brakes: 22:20
Below are the readings of brake pads thickness of the various brake pads I have used in my Honda Highness CB350 after almost using them for the same duration of almost 8000-8500kms:
Front Brake Pads:
Honda OE Organic brake pads: 1.8mm
Nikavi Sintered brake pads: 5.0mm
Vesrah Ceramic brake pads: 5.2mm
Rear Brake Pads:
Honda OE Organic brake pads: 3.5mm
Yamaha R1 V1/V2 Organic Brake pads: 6.2mm
Vesrah Ceramic brake pads: 6.6mm
This kind of analysis is not done by any Indian RUclipsr. We often come across this kind of quality content from the western world countries. No matter if the video takes 30 mins of your time BUT it gives you knowledge for the lifetime. Truely and i can keep saying this everytime, you are a blessing for the Indian riding community with knowledge sharing in the most practical way ❤
Also, I want to highlight that the tall gearing hinders engine braking in low speed situations. This makes the brakes wear out faster when used for commuting purpose.
Indeed, taller the gearing lesser the back torque for engine braking.
Bro this comment was very helpful... I was also frustrated while driving at 20-30 i don't have that much control over my bike while driving over 40 it's nicer... I'm blaming my driving skills or i bought the wrong machine.. But now I understand tall gearing is the issue
This what your knowledge ( not RUclips university or bluffing without data )
Really informative video with a proper explanation and data analysis also with proper comparison of MOC of break pads ..
Just wow and last part related to how to break and use engine breaking..
Just wow
Exactly, my fav part - Let the numbers do the telling
Just when I was pondering which Brake Pads to buy for my front on the CB (i changed them with OE just 3k kms back and have come to know that my front brake pads have again worn out pointed out by another Raj's videos that one hint is that the oil level in the master cylinder reduces, so I suspect my front brake pads have worn out again in just 3k kms), Raj sir comes in clutch with a detailed informative video. Thanks Raj sir. Wish your channel all the success it truly deserves. Gem of the Honda Hness CB community.
Most of my seat time is in the city so, I will opt for the Vesrah Ceramic ones for the lever feel that you mentioned. Thanks Raj sir
breakpad बदलायची पद्धत कॅलिपर काढून , बाहेर आलेला सिलिंडर आत ढकलून , थोडं oil लावून बदलणे.
पण pcmc central मध्ये बदलायची पद्धत: स्क्रू ड्राइवर ने कॅलिपर ओढणे आणि जून breakpad काढून नवीन ढकलणे. पुन्हा कॅलिपर दाबणे. breakpad चे ८०० आणि service charge ५५० , gst वेगळा.
Khup mahag ahet pcmc madhe
Appreciate the hard work. It is unbelievable that your Nikavi and Vesrah brake pads look absolutely brand new barely any wear on them. I have a CBR250R C-ABS model and i use Honda OEM semi sintered pads and they hardly last 6000 kms (thats 1 year as per my usage). And I have decent braking habits. Nothing too harsh. There are no scratches on the disc plate either.
Seems like Honda has some catch in the semi sintered Nissin pads too.. maybe next time you can try some aftermarket compatible option.
Loved it ❤ Apart from the brake pad study, the end part of "Late breaking" is worth a watch. The art of flowing with traffic is a skill very less acquired these days. Nowadays, in traffic all I can see is Throttle Horn Brake whereas it should be Throttle Gear Down Brake and then horn only if required.
Sirji, amazing video.. so much long term planning. Brakes are my biggest complaint on the bike. I have had pulsars for 20 years and even the first gen pulsar brakes had better weather resistance than these brakes. Brembo and Bajaj got it right 20 years ago. In CB350 the amount of effort required to slow down makes it difficult to modulate in traffic, so you dont get confidence and you have ride like a saint. Now i dont ride in the rainy season anymore.
On a seperate note, awaiting your performance improvement video.
Appreciate your efforts. The issues happening with today's moto vloggers / reviewers are that many are not knowing mechanical things, they just want views, likes and comments for earning money. That's the reason many are not able to give good content. They just go with the flow.
Nice comparison of the Stock brake pads & other brands. I had purchased the CB350 around 2 months back. I hove some quires:- 1. At the time of 1st service (690KM),I was advised by the service adviser for getting the both the Disk brakes cleaned by the "Wurth" Brake cleaner at their service centre for which they have charged me, I observed that nothing was done, is it necessary to get both the Disk brakes cleaned at regular intervals?? 2. Service adviser explained the Chain cleaning & lubrication with the "Honda" Chain & Lube,but the very next day after servicing I noticed the Chain was almost dry and there was "Rust",moreover during the servicing, I was looking through the customer Lounge,the mechanic, lubricated the chain with some oil through the oil pump. I asked the supervisor & explained the matter at the time of delivery but he said that was for washing the chain after the engine Oil change and actually they have shown me the ""Honda" Chain & Lube" in the washing Bay and billed the chain cleaning. It was just for making some extra money,now I am cleaning the chain with Diesel and lubricating it with Gear oil 80W 90 GL-5 multi grade which is far better than the service centre done. Kindly Post video on gearing for lowest & highest speed in each gear.
Appreciate the efforts taken to demonstrate longevity of different brakepad types. Nicely explained braking technique and engine braking usage. Kudos to your efforts and patience
Thanks buddy 🙂
Hats off to you Raj sir, for making such informative videos for CB 350 community. Any topic I want to research upon, I get your detailed videos already available on it. 😊 Thank you.
If pads are hard DISC will wear out.
What is the braking effort after changing pads?
If we use ceramic or sintered, Disc will wear out faster, it is bigger expenditure again.
Thanks for making video.
The way u describe and cover all d points need extreme dedication, hats off to u.
🎉Nice informative vdo❤. I want to ask, Is there any damage to the brake disc while using the nikavi or vesra brake pads?
I really liked your video. Your hard work and effort is highly appreciated. Thank you so much for your assistance in choosing the right brake pads. This is going to help many bikers a lot. God bless you 🙏
I can confirm like last year i was driving in gurgaon where there were lots of water on road like it was covering half of my tyres, my front brake just stopped working, there was free flow of brake lever, initially i thought it may be due to abs sensor. Now time to shift to ceramic pads. Thanks Raj🙏❤️
Appreciate the efforts you put in this video
Making content for such areas/such things, I appreciate it man...amazing
Superb yaar, just too good of an explanation and practical coverage of every detail. I loved it. Thanks a ton👍
Thanks for detailed information
I would like to know about the Vesrah Brake Pads and you already covered it in your video. It is very good to see that Vesrah Brake Pads are extremely wonderful in all your used brake pads. If possible then please make a video on Clutch Cable and Throttle Cable as well as Battery and Battery Charger because I have seen in many videos, there are major problems occurred in BS6 motorcycles due to battery charger.
Thanks buddy 🙂.
Most BS6 bikes are suffering with battery issues mainly due to the use of small capacity batteries used by manufacturer to reduce cost and they can afford small capacity batteries due to the usage of LED lights all round.
@@RajkaGarage Yes Mr. Raj Sir you are saying absolutely right but if possible then please explain this in one of your video that will be more helpful to understand the actual situation as well as it will be a record for the future.🙏
Will Do..
@@RajkaGarage Thank you Sir👍🙏
Absolutely Undoubtedly
The best video ever by any Indian youtuber or whatever
Thanks a Lot on Part of All the riders not just Honda riders for Break pads quality and comparison.
Such a wonderful video and information. I am from Kerala. Here most of the time the weather will be rainy and my stock brake pads ie organic pads would worn out fastly.
So now I decided to use ceramic brake pads. Once again Thanks for the information
Thank you bhaiya… yamaha ka brake pad lag jayega… bahut acha information mila apke video se…. Mere cb350 rs ka front master cylinder piston (boket) kharab ho gya hai kya usme honda shine SP125 ka boket lag jayega na ye btaiyega na
Sir you should add the product affiliated link for us to support you. Your information is very valuable
Raja bro, your level of RnD is a rare thing in India, understanding it takes a lot of investment, patience and above all needs brains to do the same.. I own a Highness and I admire your zeal to share your knowledge with all of us.. way to go brother 👍🏻👍🏻 may GOD bless you..
Also I would request you to if possible to kindly provide some purchasing links for the reviewed parts, because as novice as my self, it could be helpful. Many thanks bro..
Really helpful to get Deep knowledge about brake pads and riding skill.
My last experience with versah front brake pads, in Kolkata daily rains versah washed out within 2700km
Raj bhai , missed watching this vid before...ek dum zabardast informative video. ✌
Kaafi deep, detailed R & D 👌👌👌
Excellent Raj...thank You So Much.. there is no one like you. I am from Pune N a CB owner tool. Is it possible to meet. Will wait for your reply
Nice video. Appreciate the effort in making this kind of video. Keep up the good work👍
Sirji, crank1 ki ceramic pad me wear indicators nahi hai...
Crank1 says those grooves are for heat dissipation, and as ceramic heats up very less, they don't provide grooves in ceramic pads.
Try them sometimes.
And as always, solid video.
18:11 mujhe pata tha ceramic has the best life.
Raj! Just checking-in...have not heard from you for over a month. Hope to have you back soon. ❤
Very informative you nailed it plz tyres upgrade par ek video bnao
@Boss 1 video Bobcut verdenchi handlebars laga kar review karo viewers want to check perfection
Wow
Simply wow
Your review was very helpful, i was frustrated with changing my brake pads quite often.
Your style is very much like Geekyranjit, i really like his structured and proper reviews.
Ome suggestion, you should invest in a vwry good camera, your content quality is very nice. Presentation matters and ive also realised that the hard way!
While riding in rain front break pads wear much faster for me with in 1000 km, which break pads to use in rainy season as versah brek pads also lasted 1 k km for me
I have completed 32k aims and my 1st front pad got workout at almost 17K. Post that i got the Nissin Sintered but my front disk had a slight bent which impacted my right side of the pad. Again got the OE organic at 25K.
Rear break pads only changed twice so able to do a good long ride
Great Sir. Many Thanks very very useful information and in detail. Optimum usage of resources
I appreciate your the time and the knowledge you shared with us thank you 🙏.
Your depth of analysis really helped , breakpad material bifurcation and hierarchy was really helpful.
When it's raining almost 3days a week break pads are like yha to mai pighal gya.
Could you please add link to the veshrah pads and you can add an affiliate link that can help you as well.😌
the content is so good, very informative
H'ness k liye ceramic pads ki link share kardo please.
Hi,
Very informative video as always. Thank you. For exterpolating the remaining life of the brake pad, shouldn't the reading be taken from the wear marking as opposed to the base of the metal plate?
The wear indicator depth may differ from one manufacturer to other and also the backing plate thickness. So just subtracted the life left minus the thickness of the backing plate.
Great work, Raj. I was planning to replace front pads, this was extremely helpful. Thanks! Btw, where in Pune are you based out of?
Great video bro 👍 , i was actually looking for such a video as i've recently purchased (second hand) h'ness 350 and i also felt the same thing that the rear brake doesn't have that much power in comparison to front brakes , but now my doubt about it is cleared but i also want to know that i want to change the rear brake pads and i want to go with the ceramic one , i am confused between versah and nivaki , please suggest which should i go for .....
I also have highness. the front brake pads are wearing out more in rainy condition. where to buy the ceramic brake pads?
Apriciated...! Hard work....
Thank you.
Thankful for you experiment....and the knowledge you have shared ❤
Raj bhai you made my life easy
Thank you for sharing this information with everyone. Even I changed to Vesrah Breakpads after mine worn out by 5k. However the SC guys were telling me that Vesrah would eventually damage the disc plates. Not really sure on that but please advise on this, Thanks.
Watch TS 19:30 onwards, that's exactly i have proved with data. Disc wear compared with a 7k run on OE pads and mine on 24k on the sintered and ceramic pads. Absolutely no change in dimensions.
@@RajkaGarageThank you once again Sir for your response ❤
My rear disc heating up very quickly despite raising the issue with Honda bigwing it's still not resolved not have got he brake pads changed too still the issue persists
Add links for buying aswell
Hi, the exhaust head of my highness has lost chrome finish. Is there any concern? 3 months, 2500km
honda highness madhe rear chain sprocket 41Teeth cha lavala tr basavla tr ky hoil? gear changing kami karav lagel ka city madhe? nakki ky farak padto ??? plz make a vcdo on this. tu mast explain kartos. vdo mast informative astat. thanks!
Thank you for sharing your experience
You always make the most useful content for CB350. I will definitely buying ceramic pads when my OEM pads start showing signs of wearing out.
I have a question about improving the throttle response on my 2022 model H'ness. Do you think a BMC air filter and iridium spark plug would improve the performance significantly?
I mostly ride on highways and I've noticed that I need to twist the throttle control to the max all the time to get some performance out of the bike. Adjusting the free play made a lot of difference, but i'd still love to have slightly more acceleration.
FuelX ECU is somehow ridiculously expensive just for the H'ness (Rs. 19,500 on their website!), and a Red Rooster exhaust upgrade bring concerns of being an easy target for traffic challans and road rollers.
The performance air filter and iridium spark plug upgrade would cost about Rs.7000. Would it be wise to spend money on them?
Thanks buddy 🙂.
Yes the BMC air filter will definitely improve the throttle response due to the free flow of air but this will be marginal and most of the output will be felt at for acceleration at speeds of 60kmph and above. I am too planning to try that out. But the sheet cost of the maintenance kit is turn off for such performance filters.
But will surely try out.
Red rooster and remapped ECU are not worth the investment in my personal opinion.
@@RajkaGarage Thanks! And yeah the cleaning/restoration kit itself is worth about 10 of the OEM honda paper filters 😄. But again, I don't think I'll need to buy the kit until after several thousand kilometres.
And I do need the throttle improvement at highway speeds only (at higher gears and high RPMs where there is an oddly weak power band). In cities the stock throttle response is adequate.
Would love to see you do performance upgrades that are value for money. Probably a good next direction for your content after all the excellent maintenance info provided so far.
I'd trust your results more than random bloggers who might be affected by placebo effect. 🙂
hello Raj, I have a question will the front brake pads of cb350 fit into my Honda cb200x? asking coz honda cb200x doesn't have any direct fit good brake pads. please help a fellow rider
Your video is really amazing and As u have such a nice knowledge and experience about engine braking why don’t you make a video about how to change gear at a perfect rpm up shift and down shift so that engine health stays good 👍
My cb 350 rs front break pad is getting weared out at 2500 km only. What is the best option? Please suggest. I ride on bangalore traffic condition
Great and very informative, appreciate your work Sir👍👍👍
@raj Ka Garage - Please share the online link to purchase these break pads - i am a regular follower of your channel - pleas help here in sharing online links
Sir will the dealer change the break pads which i will provide them or not during service.
And will changing break pads with other type cause any issue with abs of bike
Really required and informative video. Thank you
Vesrah brake pads - did you buy online, if yes, link please. Also where did you get that front visor and side mirrors. links for them too plz
Is this the same one you are using ...Vesrah ceramic front brake pads sd156/2?
wonderful content 🎉🎉🎉 such a high quality content you earned a sub
Great explanation and kudos to your efforts 💯
Thank you for the detailed video.
I can’t understand the language so Anyone can tell which brake pad is better for cb350?
Amazing insights and valuable information Raj sir.
Could you please share the details of the mirrors you're using on the bike and if they're a direct fit or not?
Could you please suggest the best engine oil for Honda highness 350.
Thank u for the detailed review Raj sir....i ride very agressively thats y my brake pads wore out very fast ....engine braking technique is quite a gud idea...lessons learned👍
Thanks buddy 🙂
@@RajkaGarage and also raj sir the problem i have is as i stay in hills…once when i was riding uphills shifting from 2nd to 1st gear went through neutral so i almost had an accident.
Superb video. Thanks for clearing few doubts 👍👍
Raj sir what is the life and performance of vesrah ceramic brake pads..are they good for CB 350.
Vesrah lasts upto 14-15k kms for front and rear even longer. They have sufficient bite in terms of performance and works well at high speed.
@@RajkaGarage hi sir I have one doubt, if we change to ceramic brake pad will there be problem with caliper or rotor ?
Thank You so much! This is really really helpful
amazing comparison , really helpfull thanks sir
@RajkaGarage On tyres, can we fit royal enfield tyre size of 120/80/18 at the rear of the cb350 hness? As i am thinking of block pattern touring tyres from REISE. Please advice
Firstly thanks for such a detailed and informative video, I wanted to ask is it possible to install the front brake setup on the rear disc, as they are much more powerful
Can someone please share the links to purchase these disk pads?
Sir, in one of your post you've mentioned to apply black paint and some other things on the joints (weldings) of Highness frame to prevent rusting. Can you please tell me the details of it... I'm getting my new bike in couple of days.
Where to buy nikavi sintered break pads?
R15
Front brake pads or rear brake pads used in rear brakes of cb350 ?
All about brakes ❤
Please use a micrometer instead of a vernier caliper there is a ridge formed on the rotor which will give a false thickness reading
Very good information 👏
Please any one send me the link of front brake pad Vesrah
Nice in detail info
What is front brake pad number of Vesrah make
The video was very informative. Where can i purchase the Vesrah ceramic brake pads for CB350
Great information sir
Great analysis 👍🏼
Sir, I'm going to take delivery of my new Honda Highness in next few days. Will you please give some tips to take care of my bike in daily life so that I can avoid rusting and paint related problems.
Thanks in advanve! 🙏🏼
Thanks in advance. 🙏🏼
First of all, congratulations on your bike buddy..
I have covered paint care(especially chassis joints)and rust prevention in few videos exclusively.
Bookmark this playlist which has more than 75 videos on various topics on the CB.
ruclips.net/p/PLU8J6aO9HVgxmQkg84Anwenv9rtHzKCVp&si=m0p3aueIR8QGG6DK
Sir does it make sense buying a cb highness in 2024..my commute is 90 percent in city and I want to take up weekend highway rides..will the new Himalayan be better..
What’s the frequency of brake fluid change or the signs to change brake fluid?
Hi i am thinking of buying cb350rs . I was worried about it's high maintenance cost but came across you're channel .
Do you think a newbie will be able to do maintenance after free service. Like i will go to service center for things like chain replacement, brake issue only. Rest filters and spark plug and engine oil I'll change my self.
You're reply would be appreciated.
Bhau ramram🙏 ,
As usual one of the useful and unique video from you, thanks alot for it.
Pls make a video on final drive ratio of hness ie 14 - 35 ( almost 2.5). I wish to make a final drive around 2.8 to 3. Along with all modifications and good available options I request you pls look into this matter and come out with a better solution. Its a pain in ass to all homda owners❤😂😂
By any chance do you have a parts catalogue?
I am doing some research so that all honda owners can benefit. Honda Wale faqt bhawach khat ahet.🙏