This podcast is a must watch for those customers who think they will put sintered brake pads on the new Aprilia RS 457 and it will solve their braking problems. Everyone has talked about putting DOT 5.1 fluid, sintered pads or EBC pads, but it does come with its cons.
Very informative video. After a 15 year gap I am back to the motorcycle world to have some fun. My previous commuter bike had drum brakes 😂 so never faced any such issue. But I guess chain lube spray is the culprit for reducing bite of the rear brake of my present bike with disk brakes. Thank God I did not use diesel to clean it. Thanks buddies 👍
I have used one set of sintered and one set of ceramic Vesrah and one set of stock OEM breakpads on my duke 200. I feel 10 to 15 % of better performance with sintered and ceramic breakpads compared with stock ones. The stock ones will have 25 to 30% of more life. One disadvantage of ceramic breakpads is they produce heat very much even for short and city rides also.
Yes, sintered brake pads will wear disc rotor. Once i used my brake really heard to escape from crash, it stopped very well but brake rotor got bend and replaced (replaced rotor within in 2 years)
In the world of influencers who use their followers to sell unwanted expensive fancy products, vikas bro is the only person who cares for his followers, makes videos & tells his followers not to waste money on such products. Lots of love from the OG biking community.. ❤❤
Nowadays riders upgrading parts is more to satisfy their ego or mostly making content out of it and posting it in social media to grab attention, rather than actually improving their skills to out-do the performance of what the stock parts of the motorcycle has to offer. I have seen many riders upgrading parts because their stock brakes were not working. They lack the basic sense of maintenance and troubleshooting, to check what is wrong whether the caliper piston seals need to be replaced, or the brake fluid has gone bad or the master cylinder piston kit might need to be replaced. I have seen RUclips videos where a pulsar 220 guy fitted an expensive duke 390 adjustable lever just because his clutch lever feel was hard, I mean replacing the clutch cable or inspecting what actually the problem was and rectifying it would have been more cost effective and justifiable instead of misleading the 20k-30k viewer audience. When two of my friends bought the Triumph Speed 400, they both got the Mrf tyre fitted motorcycles and not the Apollo ones. They both wanted to replace the tyres right after going out of the showroom then I made them understand that they should keep their ego aside, no need of wasting money, neither do they have the skills to outrun the grip offered by the mrfs. They said but Sagar sheldekar and powerdrift suggested in their reviews that the stock tyres are not that great, I asked them tu Sagar jaise bike ko chala payega kya? Till date they are still running the stock mrfs and are happy.
Very informative, the only purpose of sintered pads is when you go for track or do aggressive riding. OEM pads get glazed under heavy breaking round after round on track, They start loosing that effective bite and begin making a metal rubbing noise. example slowing from 200-90 in less than 100 mtrs round after round. OEM pads are manufactured keeping real-world scenarios and regular pads get into operating temp faster than sintered pads just like road tires vs Slicks. The materials used in sintered pads have higher operating temp. also, markings on the rotors give the minimum thickness of the rotors before changing them.
Well I have been riding Motorcycles for 15 Years , Always Used OEM Brake pads and Never had any Problem , Untill Now with My New Aprilia RS457 for the first time I am finding that the OEM Brakes are Not that Good.
Changed brake pads after wearing them out at 6k kms on Speed 400 which costed 3k . Thanks for eye opener video. Next time will opt for normal brake pads from scrambler 400x. Hope they can cross fit it in showroom...
I always use rubbing alcohol and a bit of scotch brite scrubber to get mucc and oils off the rotor, use soap and water to clean my calipers and the same paired with sandpaper 120 grit to resurface my pads. Been using organic pads for a long time. The best advantage with organic pads is if you mess up get brake oil engine oil diesel petrol silicon grease(used in brake servicing) you can just go ahead and replace them. Since brake pads are porous no matter how hard you scrub the surface the grease once gotten in will not leave the pads for a very long time as vikas said 50-100 km. Not worth the risk to ride for such a long time expecting not to make a mistake and have poor braking performance. "The further you are from stock, the closer you'll stay to home", and vice versa
Sintered pads are useful If you really wanna send the bike but for normal riding organic pads are great and offer amazing feel and Feedback which I can never get from a sintered pad. So unless it's some really fast bike or you do track days, sintered pads aren't needed for normal riding even spirited riding I mean.
Sintered pads are more common than you think. Interceptor 650 comes standard with Brembo Sintered Pads and Brembo disc. Just yesterday I changed front pads of my Honda city, they were sintered. I wish they offered sintered pads with more vehicles. I had a 3rd gen Honda City where I made the mistake of switching to organic pads from Bosch, they were cheaper, quiter and were supposed to make disc last longer. In the mountain roads of Himachal where hard breaking is required from time to time, I experienced brake fade. I thought it to be normal behaviour from Bosch pads and continued to drive. Long story short, I ended up in a ditch because the brakes didn't behave the way I was used to. Now I'm seeing more and more cars come with Sintered Pads. Even Tata Tiago comes with those. Edit : Reached video end, you mentioned Brembo pads 😅 I'll try EBC HH pads now.
You can use hand sanitizer or any other alcohol base cleaner when you need to clean your Disk brake & router or when you accidentally put some oil in the disk brake or router.
I think if you hit 120+ speed every time you ride & hard breaking & also always ride open highway frequently only then sintered brake pads are beneficial or you can't feel the difference anyway
I wanted to share my experience where my 390 Duke was fitted with warped disc rotor and it caused the whole brake system to fail due to overheating of pads and that led to failure of master cylinder pressure too
I was looking forward to this technical aspect of breaking, now I want to rethink. Maybe I need to stick to normal ones procuring the company specified brake pads. Thank you.... 😊 So amongst the three options available: 1. Normal brake pads 2. Sintered brake pads 3. Ceramic brake pads The best option for normal riders would be Normal brake pads. Tarun's voice was not audible, couldn't hear properly on this very important topic. You have to ensure the audio quality before uploading. Vikas bro you are loud and at times vociferous, like a fightig spouse. While Tarun is the charming, sweater speaking like a new lover boy. This was quite amusing.
Do altitude level make any effect on braking. During my ride to leh. I experienced that my dominar 400 rear brake almost gone. When i came to lower altitude. Brake acted normally.
It's totally a subjective matter. I personally feel sintered brake pads are needed once the power output goes above 40bhp. Every product in this world is meant to depreciate. The day you bought your motorcycle it started depreciating. If you install sintered pad it doesn't mean every metre or two you'll be applying brakes hard. There are multiple ways of stopping a vehicle. I upgraded to sintered brake pads but that doesn't mean I apply brakes harshly. That way surely the discs will be gone. I majorly rely on engine braking which helps me a lot slowing down my motorcycle. Everything in this world is beneficial if used judiciously. Excessive use of anything is harmful. Be it brake pads or any other stuff.
I want to upgrade the brakes because i want to make my motorcycle perfect for me although im still not sure about the pads im certain about master cylinder upgrade I do see myself putting sintered pads atleast once tho Because the factory pads costs just as much as ebc sintered on continental
Sir I have 390 adventure it's Has Sinterd Pads in front . It's Still naw Run in Half use 23k kilometers done . ITS was Outstanding braking But Sinerd Has Created sound When U press The Brack Kich kich kich Sound 😊. The 390 adv stock brack Sinterd it self
i use adadfox disc brake cleaner for rotor , and rear pads i get it changed every 5k but front one can run for 10k , any disc rotor cleaner should evaporate sooner, not sure how good are ceramic pads though but cost 5 times more than organic ruclips.net/video/MmDekED2X0E/видео.htmlsi=kUZPe72E0H2ufd0c
This podcast is a must watch for those customers who think they will put sintered brake pads on the new Aprilia RS 457 and it will solve their braking problems. Everyone has talked about putting DOT 5.1 fluid, sintered pads or EBC pads, but it does come with its cons.
It already comes with sintered in front
What you said about using petrol for cleaning rotors is actually true I have used petrol and this gives amazing results.
Thanks for watching brother
Very informative video. After a 15 year gap I am back to the motorcycle world to have some fun. My previous commuter bike had drum brakes 😂 so never faced any such issue. But I guess chain lube spray is the culprit for reducing bite of the rear brake of my present bike with disk brakes. Thank God I did not use diesel to clean it. Thanks buddies 👍
This podcast was from LKG to Master Degree in Disc Brakes😄 very informative
I have used one set of sintered and one set of ceramic Vesrah and one set of stock OEM breakpads on my duke 200. I feel 10 to 15 % of better performance with sintered and ceramic breakpads compared with stock ones. The stock ones will have 25 to 30% of more life. One disadvantage of ceramic breakpads is they produce heat very much even for short and city rides also.
Namaste to Vikas and Tarun, thankyou for the wonderful podcast...
Yes, sintered brake pads will wear disc rotor. Once i used my brake really heard to escape from crash, it stopped very well but brake rotor got bend and replaced (replaced rotor within in 2 years)
Really knowledgeable person , I've seen following him for a decade now
In the world of influencers who use their followers to sell unwanted expensive fancy products, vikas bro is the only person who cares for his followers, makes videos & tells his followers not to waste money on such products.
Lots of love from the OG biking community.. ❤❤
Nowadays riders upgrading parts is more to satisfy their ego or mostly making content out of it and posting it in social media to grab attention, rather than actually improving their skills to out-do the performance of what the stock parts of the motorcycle has to offer.
I have seen many riders upgrading parts because their stock brakes were not working. They lack the basic sense of maintenance and troubleshooting, to check what is wrong whether the caliper piston seals need to be replaced, or the brake fluid has gone bad or the master cylinder piston kit might need to be replaced. I have seen RUclips videos where a pulsar 220 guy fitted an expensive duke 390 adjustable lever just because his clutch lever feel was hard, I mean replacing the clutch cable or inspecting what actually the problem was and rectifying it would have been more cost effective and justifiable instead of misleading the 20k-30k viewer audience.
When two of my friends bought the Triumph Speed 400, they both got the Mrf tyre fitted motorcycles and not the Apollo ones. They both wanted to replace the tyres right after going out of the showroom then I made them understand that they should keep their ego aside, no need of wasting money, neither do they have the skills to outrun the grip offered by the mrfs. They said but Sagar sheldekar and powerdrift suggested in their reviews that the stock tyres are not that great, I asked them tu Sagar jaise bike ko chala payega kya? Till date they are still running the stock mrfs and are happy.
Wowww.... Great job man.. 👏🏽👏🏽👌🏽
Very informative podcast as a bike enthusiast this tips helps me lots..... thanks
Love these podcasts about specific technical topics. Keep up the good work
Very informative, the only purpose of sintered pads is when you go for track or do aggressive riding.
OEM pads get glazed under heavy breaking round after round on track, They start loosing that effective bite and begin making a metal rubbing noise.
example slowing from 200-90 in less than 100 mtrs round after round.
OEM pads are manufactured keeping real-world scenarios and regular pads get into operating temp faster than sintered pads just like road tires vs Slicks.
The materials used in sintered pads have higher operating temp.
also, markings on the rotors give the minimum thickness of the rotors before changing them.
Well I have been riding Motorcycles for 15 Years , Always Used OEM Brake pads and Never had any Problem , Untill Now with My New Aprilia RS457 for the first time I am finding that the OEM Brakes are Not that Good.
You can also use break cleaner spray
Changed brake pads after wearing them out at 6k kms on Speed 400 which costed 3k .
Thanks for eye opener video. Next time will opt for normal brake pads from scrambler 400x. Hope they can cross fit it in showroom...
I always use rubbing alcohol and a bit of scotch brite scrubber to get mucc and oils off the rotor, use soap and water to clean my calipers and the same paired with sandpaper 120 grit to resurface my pads. Been using organic pads for a long time. The best advantage with organic pads is if you mess up get brake oil engine oil diesel petrol silicon grease(used in brake servicing) you can just go ahead and replace them. Since brake pads are porous no matter how hard you scrub the surface the grease once gotten in will not leave the pads for a very long time as vikas said 50-100 km. Not worth the risk to ride for such a long time expecting not to make a mistake and have poor braking performance. "The further you are from stock, the closer you'll stay to home", and vice versa
Sintered pads are useful If you really wanna send the bike but for normal riding organic pads are great and offer amazing feel and Feedback which I can never get from a sintered pad. So unless it's some really fast bike or you do track days, sintered pads aren't needed for normal riding even spirited riding I mean.
Sintered pads are more common than you think. Interceptor 650 comes standard with Brembo Sintered Pads and Brembo disc.
Just yesterday I changed front pads of my Honda city, they were sintered.
I wish they offered sintered pads with more vehicles. I had a 3rd gen Honda City where I made the mistake of switching to organic pads from Bosch, they were cheaper, quiter and were supposed to make disc last longer. In the mountain roads of Himachal where hard breaking is required from time to time, I experienced brake fade. I thought it to be normal behaviour from Bosch pads and continued to drive. Long story short, I ended up in a ditch because the brakes didn't behave the way I was used to.
Now I'm seeing more and more cars come with Sintered Pads. Even Tata Tiago comes with those.
Edit : Reached video end, you mentioned Brembo pads 😅 I'll try EBC HH pads now.
Vikash please make videos on engine oil treatment, like abro
You can use hand sanitizer or any other alcohol base cleaner when you need to clean your Disk brake & router or when you accidentally put some oil in the disk brake or router.
I think if you hit 120+ speed every time you ride & hard breaking & also always ride open highway frequently only then sintered brake pads are beneficial or you can't feel the difference anyway
I wanted to share my experience where my 390 Duke was fitted with warped disc rotor and it caused the whole brake system to fail due to overheating of pads and that led to failure of master cylinder pressure too
Vikas Sir is the BEST ❤🙏
I was looking forward to this technical aspect of breaking, now I want to rethink.
Maybe I need to stick to normal ones procuring the company specified brake pads. Thank you.... 😊
So amongst the three options available:
1. Normal brake pads
2. Sintered brake pads
3. Ceramic brake pads
The best option for normal riders would be Normal brake pads.
Tarun's voice was not audible, couldn't hear properly on this very important topic. You have to ensure the audio quality before uploading.
Vikas bro you are loud and at times vociferous, like a fightig spouse. While Tarun is the charming, sweater speaking like a new lover boy. This was quite amusing.
Do video on suspension too
Do altitude level make any effect on braking. During my ride to leh. I experienced that my dominar 400 rear brake almost gone. When i came to lower altitude. Brake acted normally.
Very informative video, thank you buddy
Bro, I am planning to install the Fuel X Pro on my KTM 390 Adventure. Can you suggest whether I should install it or not ?
It's totally a subjective matter. I personally feel sintered brake pads are needed once the power output goes above 40bhp. Every product in this world is meant to depreciate. The day you bought your motorcycle it started depreciating. If you install sintered pad it doesn't mean every metre or two you'll be applying brakes hard. There are multiple ways of stopping a vehicle. I upgraded to sintered brake pads but that doesn't mean I apply brakes harshly. That way surely the discs will be gone. I majorly rely on engine braking which helps me a lot slowing down my motorcycle.
Everything in this world is beneficial if used judiciously. Excessive use of anything is harmful. Be it brake pads or any other stuff.
Can I know where is workshop
I wanted to visit
Thanks for sharing this…😊
Interceptor come with sintered pads. Please suggest some economical pads. Bought some 200rs pads from Amazon and those are pathetic
I get the weird screeching sound sonetimes when engaging the front brakes on my Duke 200 how is it ?
I want to upgrade the brakes because i want to make my motorcycle perfect for me although im still not sure about the pads im certain about master cylinder upgrade
I do see myself putting sintered pads atleast once tho
Because the factory pads costs just as much as ebc sintered on continental
I have been riding for more than 15 years now. I ordered Galfer sintered pads for my Ninja 300 to experience them. Should I cancel them😢
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Hi Vikas
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Thanks for watching brother
good job !
Thank you! Cheers!
I paid like 9k 😢
Sir I have 390 adventure it's Has Sinterd Pads in front . It's Still naw Run in Half use 23k kilometers done . ITS was Outstanding braking But Sinerd Has Created sound When U press The Brack Kich kich kich Sound 😊. The 390 adv stock brack Sinterd it self
i use adadfox disc brake cleaner for rotor , and rear pads i get it changed every 5k but front one can run for 10k , any disc rotor cleaner should evaporate sooner, not sure how good are ceramic pads though but cost 5 times more than organic
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