Is there a competition in the development team on how to make bad things worse? Or are those who approve of this design and user experience working with their eyes closed?🥺
There's lots of negativity here about the new Woocommerce product editor beta, but I for one hated the old/current way of managing products. Now that's a UI that felt clunky and confusing as hell. I like the way Woo has gone with this. It looks a lot cleaner and easier to understand. I will definitely be giving this a test drive. I agree with Paul and some of the comments about there being areas for improvement, but this is still in beta testing after all. I like the new tabbed, almost "wizard" style design, and the fact you can now use Gutenberg blocks over the "classic" editor is a vast improvement. It has a way to go, sure...but doesn't everything?
I have always hated how woocommerce buries the description to the bottom, where most users don't see it. Hopefully the upcoming changes allow for more flexibility on placement of the long description field. Have yet to find a great solution with full flexibility with woo. Nice work like always Paul!
I know what you mean. It was an odd location for one of the main pieces of content for any product over the short description. Tbh, I've always found WooCommerce a bit of a PITA to work with. It feels convoluted to do so many things in comparison to many non-WP e-commerce solutions.
As a UX designer and a WooCommerce user, the product tools are way more segmented and it feels that it offers less information. A cleaner UI with less information does not equal to a better user experience, especially with managing a large quantity of products. It honestly looks like half of the tools/settings are either too hidden or completely reworked which can be jarring for most shop managers. I do hope the developers QA this with customers before making drastic changes to how day-to-day WooCommerce users manage their stores.
For me the biggest change that is coming to woo is that the are moving away from wp_posts to a separate table. Maybe surecart if the opponent that will move them forward, since it took them only 10 years or so to do it.
Paul - Seems like Woo still needs better POS integration. Would love to know what your favorite plugins are and what POS-plugin system works best with it. (For example the Square plugin has basic poor and only a few reviews...other examples similar...what is with this?)
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I don't know. I tried, and I do not like it so much.
Hey good video i think some of your viewers might like to look at HPOS specially since woo are enabling it by default on new installations keep up the good work
WP need to hire some high quality UI/UX professionals, as the interface (especially the new FSE setup) really needs some serious work to bring it inline with other modern technologies.
I would seem extra clicks are a thing in wordpress since Gutenberg. I always use classic editor because Gutenberg confuses clients and I think the new Woo update will do the same, particularly if they try to "design" a product page that's already designed to be dynamic within the custom theme.
I've noticed that the new Product Editor doesn't allow for the SKU of variations to be configured. Unless I've missed how to do that? Hopefully that will be added in the future as it's key functionality IMHO.
@@WPTuts Hopefully it's just something they've forgotten in the current beta, because for a product that has variations those variation sku's are super important since thats the only way to track stock between a stock keeping software and woo as a unique identifier. There are no such thing in stock as a green t-shirt, only green t-shirt large, green t-shirt medium etc, which are the actual items that have SKU's in real life
@@WPTuts yeah - actually, a variation of the new variations system where *changed* value fields only would show, like if price is set for variations, and sku, and maybe a couple of other fields, then going into variations and quickly see all fields with values only, and then have the option to "expand all" or for each variation would be a great solution
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🚀 WooCommerce is changing how products are managed. Enable the new editor in settings. 00:58 📝 New tabbed product management for WooCommerce with a step-by-step approach. 01:24 📜 Distraction-free editor and Gutenberg blocks for advanced design in product descriptions. 03:14 🧰 Streamlined product image management with cover image and order adjustment. 06:02 🏷️ User-friendly organization, including categories, tags, and custom attributes. 07:26 💰 Manage pricing, inventory, taxes, and advanced options easily. 08:52 🔄 Simplified product variation creation with added attributes and values. 11:08 🌟 Demonstration of setting up a product with various options. Some editor aspects are appreciated, but others need improvement. Made with HARPA AI
This is really bad for power users doing more than adding a few products here and there from time to time :/ I do understand that Woo wants to make this "easier" and more "accessible" for new users in onboarding etc, but they *have* to make this thing optional, or preferrably offer a "newbie"-mode doing things this way, and a pro/expert mode for those of us who wants access to all the options on one page that can quickly be scrolled up and down instead of this "clickgasm" they are doing here - the variations bit can work as a separate window or dialogue-thingy, but it needs the features of quickly being able to set price changes and other stuff for all variations with as few clicks as possible - having to start adding more bloat with plugins that change the woocommerce admin back to something usefull, or table editing and stuff shouldn't have to be necessary out of the box :/
@@BmxAddict08 Doing a bulk import isn't always the fastest/easiest way to get a slightly large handfull of changes done fast :/ I'm specifically talking about doing changes fast, not importing new products - having to export, do changes, re-import for several variations on several products involves a lot of steps, and aren't always the best way to sometimes just "get things done" :/
Generally they are doing a good job on this but there is still room for iprovement. On the variations, the overall design is nice but I think it would be better if for each variant a full pane with all the fields were to appear. It would be more effeicient where a lot of data entry need to be done. Also. I don't see the option to add a pocture for each variant.
I legit hate this. It's gonna be a freaking nightmare re-teaching a hundred clients how to do project management. I also need to work fast and this will slow my workflow down like crazy. Yet another reason to GTFO of web development.
WHY, for crying out loud, do you make ****ing menus and submenus to edit variation data???? 🤬 Give us a table with editable fields (like a spreadsheet) and save us time. 🙄
Is there a competition in the development team on how to make bad things worse? Or are those who approve of this design and user experience working with their eyes closed?🥺
Probably the same devs as those workong on FSE! ;)
@@WPTuts unfortunately it may be true
@@bunediyo I'm 90% sure there is an overlap between both teams/products when it comes to UI.
There's lots of negativity here about the new Woocommerce product editor beta, but I for one hated the old/current way of managing products. Now that's a UI that felt clunky and confusing as hell. I like the way Woo has gone with this. It looks a lot cleaner and easier to understand. I will definitely be giving this a test drive. I agree with Paul and some of the comments about there being areas for improvement, but this is still in beta testing after all. I like the new tabbed, almost "wizard" style design, and the fact you can now use Gutenberg blocks over the "classic" editor is a vast improvement. It has a way to go, sure...but doesn't everything?
I have always hated how woocommerce buries the description to the bottom, where most users don't see it. Hopefully the upcoming changes allow for more flexibility on placement of the long description field. Have yet to find a great solution with full flexibility with woo. Nice work like always Paul!
I know what you mean. It was an odd location for one of the main pieces of content for any product over the short description.
Tbh, I've always found WooCommerce a bit of a PITA to work with. It feels convoluted to do so many things in comparison to many non-WP e-commerce solutions.
You can have more control with a Block Theme. You can use the product blocks to make the design you want.
As a UX designer and a WooCommerce user, the product tools are way more segmented and it feels that it offers less information. A cleaner UI with less information does not equal to a better user experience, especially with managing a large quantity of products. It honestly looks like half of the tools/settings are either too hidden or completely reworked which can be jarring for most shop managers. I do hope the developers QA this with customers before making drastic changes to how day-to-day WooCommerce users manage their stores.
I agree - there are many options that are hidden away and could easily be overlooked if you don't know where to find them.
I love what they have done here and I love tha variations now, in my opinion this is much better 😁
Tried it almost a year ago, can't wait 👏👏
For me the biggest change that is coming to woo is that the are moving away from wp_posts to a separate table. Maybe surecart if the opponent that will move them forward, since it took them only 10 years or so to do it.
Hopefully, that will make a noticable speed improvement in the real world. :)
Insane how few real improvements in like a decade, seriously
Me alegra saber que WooCommerce por fin hará cambios en su interfaz 👏👏👏
I think it's an improvement but still needs some work.
Love the video as always, thanks a lot. What theme are you using in the video?
It’s one of the free Blocksy starter sites.
WooCommerce needs to step it up. Shopify is spreading like wildfire.
Shopify can never compete with WordPress flexibility and affordability, and of course, overwhelming popularity.
my woo commerce is not working properly,
there are pending task, schedule actions & wp crom is not working
Paul - Seems like Woo still needs better POS integration. Would love to know what your favorite plugins are and what POS-plugin system works best with it. (For example the Square plugin has basic poor and only a few reviews...other examples similar...what is with this?)
I don't know. I tried, and I do not like it so much.
Hey good video i think some of your viewers might like to look at HPOS specially since woo are enabling it by default on new installations keep up the good work
Why is the trend to make everything foolproof?
Lowest common denominator. 😉
Uploading 2000+ product in 5 different tab clicks, I think that’s a game changer 🤣🤣🤣
Not for the better. Lol
Who uploads 2000 individual products one at a time?
Awesome, good to see 👍👍 I wish WordPress also did the same with the admin UI
WP need to hire some high quality UI/UX professionals, as the interface (especially the new FSE setup) really needs some serious work to bring it inline with other modern technologies.
@@WPTuts Yeah, I think they are still working on Gutenberg :)
I would seem extra clicks are a thing in wordpress since Gutenberg. I always use classic editor because Gutenberg confuses clients and I think the new Woo update will do the same, particularly if they try to "design" a product page that's already designed to be dynamic within the custom theme.
I've noticed that the new Product Editor doesn't allow for the SKU of variations to be configured. Unless I've missed how to do that? Hopefully that will be added in the future as it's key functionality IMHO.
You're correct, there doesn't seem to be a way of applying a SKU to a variation in the new editor.
@@WPTuts Hopefully it's just something they've forgotten in the current beta, because for a product that has variations those variation sku's are super important since thats the only way to track stock between a stock keeping software and woo as a unique identifier. There are no such thing in stock as a green t-shirt, only green t-shirt large, green t-shirt medium etc, which are the actual items that have SKU's in real life
@@AndreSjoberg I totally agree. Stock variations need to be easily tracked or stock management and inventory can quickly become a nightmare.
@@WPTuts yeah - actually, a variation of the new variations system where *changed* value fields only would show, like if price is set for variations, and sku, and maybe a couple of other fields, then going into variations and quickly see all fields with values only, and then have the option to "expand all" or for each variation would be a great solution
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🚀 WooCommerce is changing how products are managed. Enable the new editor in settings.
00:58 📝 New tabbed product management for WooCommerce with a step-by-step approach.
01:24 📜 Distraction-free editor and Gutenberg blocks for advanced design in product descriptions.
03:14 🧰 Streamlined product image management with cover image and order adjustment.
06:02 🏷️ User-friendly organization, including categories, tags, and custom attributes.
07:26 💰 Manage pricing, inventory, taxes, and advanced options easily.
08:52 🔄 Simplified product variation creation with added attributes and values.
11:08 🌟 Demonstration of setting up a product with various options. Some editor aspects are appreciated, but others need improvement.
Made with HARPA AI
These changes are absolutely horrendous. All I can say is they need start again, especially the variations They have gone from bad to worse.
Hi
Is their Any way to convert our variantions into checkbox
please reply your opinion
This is really bad for power users doing more than adding a few products here and there from time to time :/ I do understand that Woo wants to make this "easier" and more "accessible" for new users in onboarding etc, but they *have* to make this thing optional, or preferrably offer a "newbie"-mode doing things this way, and a pro/expert mode for those of us who wants access to all the options on one page that can quickly be scrolled up and down instead of this "clickgasm" they are doing here - the variations bit can work as a separate window or dialogue-thingy, but it needs the features of quickly being able to set price changes and other stuff for all variations with as few clicks as possible - having to start adding more bloat with plugins that change the woocommerce admin back to something usefull, or table editing and stuff shouldn't have to be necessary out of the box :/
you can always import in bulk products
@@BmxAddict08 Doing a bulk import isn't always the fastest/easiest way to get a slightly large handfull of changes done fast :/ I'm specifically talking about doing changes fast, not importing new products - having to export, do changes, re-import for several variations on several products involves a lot of steps, and aren't always the best way to sometimes just "get things done" :/
@@BmxAddict08 That's counter productive to real world usage.
Generally they are doing a good job on this but there is still room for iprovement. On the variations, the overall design is nice but I think it would be better if for each variant a full pane with all the fields were to appear. It would be more effeicient where a lot of data entry need to be done. Also. I don't see the option to add a pocture for each variant.
It would be better to abandon jQuery, it would be more useful
New version for variable products is horrible. I'll stick with the original.
Typical Web Karen
Un cambio sin sentido que no aporta nada. Entre al video muy entusiasmado pensando en un verdadero cambio.
Feels like 10 steps backwards
Nobody is gonna use this, and anyone with serious woocommerce usage will have a page builder in place anyways.
I disagree about the page builder aspect. For a Woo store, you don’t need a page builder at all.
Nope. I won't be using this.
Looks a bit more like shopify
I legit hate this. It's gonna be a freaking nightmare re-teaching a hundred clients how to do project management. I also need to work fast and this will slow my workflow down like crazy. Yet another reason to GTFO of web development.
WHY, for crying out loud, do you make ****ing menus and submenus to edit variation data???? 🤬
Give us a table with editable fields (like a spreadsheet) and save us time. 🙄