Thanks for the photos. I've just watched The Krays (film) so was interested to see what Frances really looked like. She was very pretty. It was a shame she got involved with the brothers.
A lot of people seemed to idolise the twins back in the 70s and 80s . Now most people rightly see them as horrible scumbags . And poor Frances looked beautiful .
He couldn't bring himself to spoil her innocence,he could shag other women just not her,he was extremely possessive,no man would have had the balls to go near her cos of his temper.
Exactly what happened behind their closed door is unknown except for the two of them. But Frances did file for divorce on the ground of "no consummation". Reggie treated Frances as his favorite toy, rather than valuing her like a human being. Scary part is that it's how he viewed what love is. He believed he's going everything he could for a woman but Frances didn't agree with him on that. Unlike in the film "Legend", however, Reggie never saw himself in the wrong light and thus would never say things like "I've changed". He offered to take Frances away on vacation before her death was the reflection that - he saw Frances' mental health wrecked because of weather, because of her family's influence; when Frances told him about a bad hair dye, that made him even more satisfied by knowing additional reason behind Frances' unhappiness - that it's not him, never him. Honestly, had Reggie Kray not been a gangster, I doubt the marriage would turn out any better.
She was ill and had attempted suicide before she got with Reggie. But unfortunately His brother Ron was possessive of his time as he wasn't well but he and Frances didn't get on and Reggie and Frances weren't left alone to be a couple. It's bern said that they loved eachother too much it's so so sad :'(:'(:'( ♡
I love the whole story of the krays, one thing that has never been bought up for 'fans' of the krays is where all the sites are of the places they used to use, like the double R, the Barn, regency. I would love to have a walk round and see if they are still there, especially the astor. I think it would make a good book in itself, reflect on how things are different in each of the places. There you go, a free idea for you!
They were scumbag animal lunatics, and if they didn't get locked up when they did they were going to go missing as their own firm were sick of them they were slowly loosing everything they had when reg got discharge from prison on his cancer leave at the end he couldn't afford the hotel he stayed and died in, how pitiful
Yea i went on that tour a few years ago, but he missed out the astor, the barn and where the double r would have been. He did take us to the repton boxing club and Evering rd and where they were arrested from. I heard they was making another film but not sure if its going ahead.
francis kray when she split up from reg lived with her brother down murray grove used to take my cousin out 2 the shop with her its a shame she died so young
Using Carmina Baruna (Wheel of Fortune) as theme music is in very bad taste, trying to insinuate "evil' (as it was used for the film The Omen) quite sad....
No, he loved her with all his heart! Watch the film and read the books of THEIR sides of the story and not the medias. She killed herself of an overdose because she couldn't live the life of a wife of a gangster :)
Reggie didn't help the situation, he was possessive, left her locked in the flat every night, got drunk every night, came home verbally abused her and repeatedly threatened her family especially her brother frankie. The wedding pictures are full of false happiness and this wedding was merely a ploy to boost their image.
Reg Was very controlling plus he never went near her in a sexual way,they made out in the film like he did,Reg was Gay like Ron… The Guards used to put young lads in with Reg,the next day they would have Love bites all over their neck . + Not forgetting Cliff Richard.
Reggie loved her but was to out of control Ronnie wasn't well enough to be on the outside they both seem like true gentlemen but it's the fact theyd shoot u over a packet of cigarettes
It has been surmised that Reggie married her out of spite to her brother . Albert Donahue is on record as saying Francis died 'intact ' so to speak . Reggie wasn't that in to the ladies ! In 99 i was in HMP Bedford and a young bloke came in from Wayland. Paul Henry 26 but looked 16 ( I kid you not ) . Henry was small , effeminate and spent hours showing of his latest letter from his m8 Reggie . When Reggie died he left Paul Henry £10,000 . Must have been a real special friend eh .
I always get a bit creeped out when I see identical twins... maybe its coz years ago I was seeing this guy... he said he had a brother but I only found out he was an identical twin coz he played a trick on me... we were in his room he said he was going to get us a drink in the kitchen (he was gone a while)... I'm getting impatient by this time... then I heard him on the phone in another room... I go in and say where's my drink then to him as he sat on the bed (he looks up at me like I'm speaking a foreign language) ... then I hear a voice behind me saying here it is... waddya know there's 2 of 'em... lmao
Strictly speaking they aren't identical. Ron was 5 foot 9, Reg was 5 foot 10. For their time that was bloody tall, being 5 foot 10 then is like being 6 foot 3 nowadays.
in all the wedding photos reg looks as if 'ees sayin "what the fack am i doin !?!"funny thing photos,reg mainly looks scared in most of them, in fact,as if waitin for ron to go off.......as he always did,as he knew he would........
It's funny how so many ex gangsters of the past have been coming out in recent years slagging off the Krays. Fair enough, but funny how they didn't say shit back in the 60s to their faces. I wouldn't wanna get on their bad sides, especially Ronnie's.
Why do the Kray fan club keep repeating "they wouldn't say bad things about the twins if they were still around" what does that prove? Nobody denies that they were seriously dangerous men and you wouldn't have messed with them but being hard doesn't justify supplying wealthy old perverts with young boys and before you start typing yes I know , i wouldn't have said this to their faces
@@w.m.w6727 there are a lot of books written about the krays x
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ron had mental issues he was bi pola ok on meds but if didnt take them wham they lived a life most people would run faster than bolt away from . they new the price they would have to pay and they did r i p all of them
You think this is what happened with the Krays? That very deluded... TOM HARDY is so brilliant he DIDNT even sound like the TWINS ... Have you ever heard them.. watched them... this is all nonsense.. 🤣 They painted a new narrative because they are dead and can say what they like and fools will believe anything they hear without looking past their own nose
I don’t like how untruthful Reggie was and I don’t like how he treated Francis in the end I like Ron cuz he was honest I know he was unwell but he was honest and that’s something you don’t see no more
the 1st film was crap calling richardsons the pelhams i mean WTF?Also most of it didnt happen.I did Franks tour a few yrs back as well,and though i dont like a lot of the violent stuff he did(even if half is true its bad),he was really good on the tour and dead funny.We stopped at Braithwaite House where the twins were nicked and he said it was 8 or 9 floors up ,then said hed gone to take people up but the lift had broke lol.hes a really old man now but i still wouldnt want to cross him
reg wife was beautiful - and as for putting them as evil ----- No , I dont think they were- they did things that were not so good, but also did good in other ways, no, they were neither good men nor bad me, and the men that were killed were bad men, so I dont class them as evil atall!! - I class my government to be evil. much more evil than them, they would not have seen their poor neighbours starve, where this government would!
My dad worked 51 years on the railways feed and clothed four children took us on holiday never moaned once paid for his food and beer never pounced of the vulnerable never stole of working class people or beat them up if they didn't pay that's my hero not a couple of bully boy bum bandits 👫
DARREN DAY it’s not true, why would Ronnie do that when he loves his twin brother, Reggie is Ronnie’s weakness. He hates it when Reggie shouts at him. It hurts him.
My Brother live's in Braithwaite house the flat's are quite small but what a lot of people don't know about them is that the flat above has a door that leads to the flat below, I wonder if the old bill had this covered also what throws me off if Violet was moved there through the council why didn't the Boy's buy her a place? They we're the dogs bollocks but made the mistake of rubbing shoulders with top notch and not getting enough shit on them should they of done this they would be free & alive
Do you know, and I had this first hand from a senior policeman, they were all a bit disapointed that Ronnie and Reggie were convicted because they kept the low-life under control, after their convictions all hell broke loose,drug dealers, ordinary people gettintg robbed, if the police had any sense they would have recruited these guys as crime fighters
Yes but they have got the bad name because they protected women and children.. something the establishment didn't like because they knew who was getting up to no good
there are times i would of liked to of met them but then i think i would of been too scared. but fair play to them they seem to come from nothing and make it for themselves , but dunno why they did the last 2 murders was senseless.
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I felt bad for Frances Kay. A very beautiful girl who never got a chance to live a full happy life.
She chose to marry a gangster
Kray not kay
she had a fear of getting old and didn't want to live past 25 she was very mentally ill as well
You sound like the type of person to pretend to be smart but isn't capable
Francis Kray never got to live a full married life if you catch my drift .
Thanks for the photos. I've just watched The Krays (film) so was interested to see what Frances really looked like. She was very pretty. It was a shame she got involved with the brothers.
A lot of people seemed to idolise the twins back in the 70s and 80s . Now most people rightly see them as horrible scumbags . And poor Frances looked beautiful .
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Everyone gangster until the krays enter the room.
True that! These lads put the "G" in angster. 👍
They were triple hard bastards
good collection of photos
Poor Frances how hard must have it been for her it is sad if she could have got away she could have been a great gran now
+jeffrey mike Yes
He couldn't bring himself to spoil her innocence,he could shag other women just not her,he was extremely possessive,no man would have had the balls to go near her cos of his temper.
No they werent> they loved their mum and kept the streets free of crime
Exactly what happened behind their closed door is unknown except for the two of them. But Frances did file for divorce on the ground of "no consummation". Reggie treated Frances as his favorite toy, rather than valuing her like a human being. Scary part is that it's how he viewed what love is. He believed he's going everything he could for a woman but Frances didn't agree with him on that. Unlike in the film "Legend", however, Reggie never saw himself in the wrong light and thus would never say things like "I've changed". He offered to take Frances away on vacation before her death was the reflection that - he saw Frances' mental health wrecked because of weather, because of her family's influence; when Frances told him about a bad hair dye, that made him even more satisfied by knowing additional reason behind Frances' unhappiness - that it's not him, never him. Honestly, had Reggie Kray not been a gangster, I doubt the marriage would turn out any better.
She was ill and had attempted suicide before she got with Reggie. But unfortunately His brother Ron was possessive of his time as he wasn't well but he and Frances didn't get on and Reggie and Frances weren't left alone to be a couple. It's bern said that they loved eachother too much it's so so sad :'(:'(:'( ♡
They loved photos, there's literally thousands of photos of the Krays.
I like pictures and cuppas👍
My boys rip
I love the whole story of the krays, one thing that has never been bought up for 'fans' of the krays is where all the sites are of the places they used to use, like the double R, the Barn, regency. I would love to have a walk round and see if they are still there, especially the astor. I think it would make a good book in itself, reflect on how things are different in each of the places. There you go, a free idea for you!
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They were scumbag animal lunatics, and if they didn't get locked up when they did they were going to go missing as their own firm were sick of them they were slowly loosing everything they had when reg got discharge from prison on his cancer leave at the end he couldn't afford the hotel he stayed and died in, how pitiful
Yea i went on that tour a few years ago, but he missed out the astor, the barn and where the double r would have been. He did take us to the repton boxing club and Evering rd and where they were arrested from. I heard they was making another film but not sure if its going ahead.
frances was more beautiful in real life imho
legends no one would say fuck all to them if they were back in the 60s
francis kray when she split up from reg lived with her brother down murray grove used to take my cousin out 2 the shop with her its a shame she died so young
anybody know the name of the song that's playing
@leedumett444 thats cause he was and his brother liked young boys 2
Aww poor francis :(
whats the name of this song ??
Frances was a very beautiful women
at 1:36 it scared the crap outa me it was like a jumpscare cause a picture popped up and the music nearly makes you go deaf...
music/ song ?
Using Carmina Baruna (Wheel of Fortune) as theme music is in very bad taste, trying to insinuate "evil' (as it was used for the film The Omen) quite sad....
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poor girl,getting mixed up in all that,fate played its hand
No, he loved her with all his heart! Watch the film and read the books of THEIR sides of the story and not the medias. She killed herself of an overdose because she couldn't live the life of a wife of a gangster :)
Red_like_roses she had a life of depression. Her first attempt was at 13 so it wasnt Reggie!
Reggie didn't help the situation, he was possessive, left her locked in the flat every night, got drunk every night, came home verbally abused her and repeatedly threatened her family especially her brother frankie. The wedding pictures are full of false happiness and this wedding was merely a ploy to boost their image.
They are films just that
Reg Was very controlling plus he never went near her in a sexual way,they made out in the film like he did,Reg was Gay like Ron…
The Guards used to put young lads in with Reg,the next day they would have Love bites all over their neck .
+ Not forgetting Cliff Richard.
Krause were trash and so was Frances or any woman who knowingly got involved with them.
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Reggie loved her but was to out of control Ronnie wasn't well enough to be on the outside they both seem like true gentlemen but it's the fact theyd shoot u over a packet of cigarettes
Ronnie would offer you one in the hospital afterwards very kind man ronnie
Love Krays Forever❤❤
What a beautiful girl Frances a tragic waste that she killed herself. I think if she'd been alive Reggie wouldn't have gone to prison.
Some people think Ronnie killed her..
1:28 Ron as John Popper before the lap band surgery.
@beefy69 ive heard that reggie actually had a fancy for frances brother,it was in a documentary about them in about 2004.
It has been surmised that Reggie married her out of spite to her brother .
Albert Donahue is on record as saying Francis died 'intact ' so to speak . Reggie wasn't that in to the ladies ! In 99 i was in HMP Bedford and a young bloke came in from Wayland. Paul Henry 26 but looked 16 ( I kid you not ) . Henry was small , effeminate and spent hours showing of his latest letter from his m8 Reggie . When Reggie died he left Paul Henry £10,000 . Must have been a real special friend eh .
I always get a bit creeped out when I see identical twins... maybe its coz years ago I was seeing this guy... he said he had a brother but I only found out he was an identical twin coz he played a trick on me... we were in his room he said he was going to get us a drink in the kitchen (he was gone a while)... I'm getting impatient by this time... then I heard him on the phone in another room... I go in and say where's my drink then to him as he sat on the bed (he looks up at me like I'm speaking a foreign language) ... then I hear a voice behind me saying here it is... waddya know there's 2 of 'em... lmao
Strictly speaking they aren't identical. Ron was 5 foot 9, Reg was 5 foot 10. For their time that was bloody tall, being 5 foot 10 then is like being 6 foot 3 nowadays.
The music mate
Frances @ 1.37. NICE !!
Frances died in June 1967 before Reggie killed Jack McVitie in October that year.
Jonathan Ross has to be a kray. Spitting image.
They just found those mugshots of Ronnie in a police station clean out! I know i hadn't seen them either.....
Am i the only one who hears “subway surfers@
Didn't know you were in to the twins Tiger
Both George Cornell & the Yorkshire ripper beat Ronnie kray in a one to one fight
Finally someone with their head screwed on!! :D
Why did she die?
She had rroe in common with Ron then with Reggie. They understood eachother.
they didnt born in 1943. they were born in 1933
Frances was born in 1943
This were nice guys who were let down by the system
@sweeney 1 are u dumb me grandad was reggies second man and not once did they touch kids
in all the wedding photos reg looks as if 'ees sayin "what the fack am i doin !?!"funny thing photos,reg mainly looks scared in most of them, in fact,as if waitin for ron to go off.......as he always did,as he knew he would........
Rest in peace boys xxxx
Hope hell is hot enough for them
She couldn't compete with Ronnie poor woman the family were cruel to her ❤
It's funny how so many ex gangsters of the past have been coming out in recent years slagging off the Krays. Fair enough, but funny how they didn't say shit back in the 60s to their faces. I wouldn't wanna get on their bad sides, especially Ronnie's.
Ry Muzic Powerful at the side of the web you are, foolish in real life.
Lady Red Pill I TOTALLY AGREE!! F*CK THAT!
Beardy Ry shut up ya fool!! Ya wouldn't have lasted two seconds up against them! f*cking disrespectful arsehole!
Why do the Kray fan club keep repeating "they wouldn't say bad things about the twins if they were still around" what does that prove? Nobody denies that they were seriously dangerous men and you wouldn't have messed with them but being hard doesn't justify supplying wealthy old perverts with young boys and before you start typing yes I know , i wouldn't have said this to their faces
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Did Ronnie kray ever smile?
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Carmina burana-oh fortuna
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Just watched legend and Tom hardy is brilliant in it, feel sorry for frances and reggie stuck with that psycho brother.
Is there any book about the hole story
I would like too see that if you may
@@w.m.w6727 there are a lot of books written about the krays x
ron had mental issues he was bi pola ok on meds but if didnt take them wham
they lived a life most people would run faster than bolt away from . they new the price they would have to pay and they did r i p all of them
You think this is what happened with the Krays? That very deluded... TOM HARDY is so brilliant he DIDNT even sound like the TWINS ...
Have you ever heard them.. watched them... this is all nonsense.. 🤣
They painted a new narrative because they are dead and can say what they like and fools will believe anything they hear without looking past their own nose
@@w.m.w6727 how about reading their own and read how all you've seen is lies about them
@bigderekkeene
Because NO ONE did anything without their say-so and then they'd want their cut
Didn't do them any good...spent half their lives in the clanger!
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The Gay Twins..
old spice music.
Ali P carmina burana
Bruo Hhff by Orff!
yes they are all dead now including older brother charlie
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Why that music? Lol
I don’t like how untruthful Reggie was and I don’t like how he treated Francis in the end I like Ron cuz he was honest I know he was unwell but he was honest and that’s something you don’t see no more
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that shit kray
Google old land marks they are available on the old maps and places of interest.
Frances was a beautiful looking women was she not.
She certainly was x
the 1st film was crap calling richardsons the pelhams i mean WTF?Also most of it didnt happen.I did Franks tour a few yrs back as well,and though i dont like a lot of the violent stuff he did(even if half is true its bad),he was really good on the tour and dead funny.We stopped at Braithwaite House where the twins were nicked and he said it was 8 or 9 floors up ,then said hed gone to take people up but the lift had broke lol.hes a really old man now but i still wouldnt want to cross him
@ManlnCognito one of their Grandads was a Romany
Yeah I think their mum's family were romany and their dad was from Jewish stock
they were as far from identical as it gets lmmfao
just twins not identical just twins
Frances character should be played by Mila Kunis in Legend(2015), they looked very similar
@mogroov ...Lol!!
A pity the quality of many of the photographs is rubbish.
Ronnie diesnt look too healthy in that mug shot at 1.28. Bit of pilates might tighten him up a bit.
Bit dramatic for a few pictures! It's like an advert for imperial leather soap! "wash ya face with this crap! It makes u ard as fuck!"
Is rom krair
reg wife was beautiful - and as for putting them as evil ----- No , I dont think they were- they did things that were not so good, but also did good in other ways, no, they were neither good men nor bad me, and the men that were killed were bad men, so I dont class them as evil atall!! - I class my government to be evil. much more evil than them, they would not have seen their poor neighbours starve, where this government would!
Maxine Galloway your right reg was handsome
My dad worked 51 years on the railways feed and clothed four children took us on holiday never moaned once paid for his food and beer never pounced of the vulnerable never stole of working class people or beat them up if they didn't pay that's my hero not a couple of bully boy bum bandits 👫
@leedumett444 i heard ron forced feed her the pills cause he was jealous of her beautiful girl rest in peace
DARREN DAY it’s not true, why would Ronnie do that when he loves his twin brother, Reggie is Ronnie’s weakness. He hates it when Reggie shouts at him. It hurts him.
Reggie himself allegedly admitted this to a cellmate
tahoo
Kylo Ren.
My Brother live's in Braithwaite house the flat's are quite small but what a lot of people don't know about them is that the flat above has a door that leads to the flat below, I wonder if the old bill had this covered also what throws me off if Violet was moved there through the council why didn't the Boy's buy her a place? They we're the dogs bollocks but made the mistake of rubbing shoulders with top notch and not getting enough shit on them should they of done this they would be free & alive
Violet refused to let the boys buy them a house, and their Auntie.
The Krays never learnt the sort of money to buy their mum a house they had nice clothes and flashed wads of cash but were never seriously rich
Christ what's with th music
Were they really as bad as the msm portray them?
Fuck me the music really so not needed lol
Do you know, and I had this first hand from a senior policeman, they were all a bit disapointed that Ronnie and Reggie were convicted because they kept the low-life under control, after their convictions all hell broke loose,drug dealers, ordinary people gettintg robbed, if the police had any sense they would have recruited these guys as crime fighters
Bullshit
Yes but they have got the bad name because they protected women and children.. something the establishment didn't like because they knew who was getting up to no good
past is the past, they don't compare to the monster's of today, FACT
Today's monsters Idolise the Krays and think they are emulating them they dream about being known as gangsters just like the twins did
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there are times i would of liked to of met them but then i think i would of been too scared. but fair play to them they seem to come from nothing and make it for themselves , but dunno why they did the last 2 murders was senseless.
What evidence do you have of this? it's easy to bad mouth the deceased.
at 0:36 he looks like mark lamarr, haha
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paul1962uk judgemental fool!
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Reggie killed Frances
Music is rotten