You ever met Joe? I promise you'll switch your stance on Joe if you bump elbows with him. He's not "a rich dude" buy any means. Most down to earth person.
I am not talking about „rich“ as an attitude but as a fact. I never said he‘s an asshole about it. Lets remember, he bought a Tesla P100D...practically sight unseen, because Elon recommended it. I call that rich people behaviour, and yet today he talks about „those rich people“ like he isn‘t one of them, that made me chuckle, thats all.
singer Porsche's are a thing of beauty. Saw one on a quiet upper-middle-class street once and spent a couple minutes taking pictures and admiring the craftsmanship.
I am a German car specialty mechanic and I love the old aircooled porsches, but I'm poor so I daily drive a 1963 bug. Even with 40 horsepower I get a smile on my face everyday. I'm building a 150hp engine though :)
Dog Cunt keyboard warrior eh,why don’t you get a life instead of trolling,why don’t you leave your parents & get a job & maybe a girlfriend....btw I’m kicking your Ma out
Yeah, we have a Porsche specialist in Leeds with a few RBW cars, singers, and full-out race cars. Mostly Singer-based and outlaw-style cars. I cycle passed every few days and walk away from garbage and car storage and car park car. Amazingly, all the same car but the variety is extreme.
I feel what Joe is saying. When I was in the Army, my platoon sergeant had this VW Bug with a Porsche engine swap and it wasn't fast at all, but it was such a unique experience. You felt connected to the car and the road even if the handling was really bad. 😅
@@kylewashington5567 Guntherwerks builds look like restomods clearly whereas the Stinger cars can easily be mistaken for an original classic. You barely see unpainted carbon in the Stinger whereas the Guntherwerks cars I've seen have alot of exposed/tinted carbon. Both are eye wateringly expensive. Do check out Theon Design from the UK. They do similar builds but at like 1/4th the cost.
It's a level of tactile engagement Joe. To drive an air cooled era well, you MUST invest your soul into it and it will show you how to work with it's oddities and deliver a driving experience like no other car can.....and then it will keep asking for more of you. I'm stoked that you recognize the passion and beauty that is a Singer.
Old Porsches aren't cars. They are equipment. A magical interface between the driver, the road, and space-time. They are 4-wheel motorcycles. Anyone who loves to get lost in the driving experience, must drive one before they die.
I've driven them! They are rolling DUMPSTER fires! You have a love for them. Thats why you enjoy driving them. Face it and be honest they are trash and you must work on every weekend! Not reliable at all! They are toys! Nothing more nothing less!
@@damndman2009 I grew up driving old pickups and half dead Datsuns. I've driven an old 911 too. They smell bad, ride rough, and rattle, just like those old Datsuns, but they go where you point them, immediately. Sure, they're nothing compared to the new ones, or even a new anything, but there's something about them that newer cars just can't match. My mom used to say she could afford to buy one, but not own one. Having owned their cheapest model (924), I know what she meant. The car was $2500 and it ran when I bought it. 2 yrs later I was $6k into it, just to keep it running. FWIW, I miss that piece of shnit.
These guys are funny to listen to, especially when talking about the cooling.... air cooled Porsche cars actually have an oil cooler like a radiator in front and long pipes that carry the oil to the front and back, making them air/ oil cooled
@@Crayma800 well yes, because those are 1.3L v6 engine producing near 700bhp, they are absolutely insane pieces of modern engineering, there’s no way to extract that much power from an F1 engine for a sustainable amount of time… Plus I think what he means by track abuse is more to do with suspension & handling rather engine power
As an endurance racer in my free time, I just can’t imagine a rear engine, air cooled 500hp Porsche holding up to any of the abuse I could throw at it, maybe im wrong tho
I loved the air cooled.. That was my first.. Flying up and down I-5 from San Diego to Portland OR.. Doing 150 up the hills cause the speed traps are on the downhill side. All the twisty roads branching off the I-5 to the coast or eastward.. Good ole days
I've raced 510s for decades. Back in the 80s I drove a Baja Datsun 240Z on the dirt roads above above Rosarito Mexico. With a Nissan Performance factory team engine making 300hp NA and it was gorgeously death defying.
I love my cayenne, one thing Ive noticed in a Porsche is that all the material is quality material, from the buttons to the engine, the seats everything is tough, looks and feels quality, buttons don't move or raddled etc the gadgets, the electronics, sorry first time Porsche owner.
Porsche worked on 4 valve heads in the 60s and I think they rallied them, but the problem was that they couldn't make it work well enough with air cooling.
I had the pleasure of seeing one in person, and i could see the carbon weave under the paint, it was so cool. the tail lights are pure art. thing is probably a dream to drive
Aircooled would include 1998 and prior 911 models. The “pre 95” comment was misleading. If he meant to allude to the 964 then it was also missing the pre 964 cut off year.
I have a Singer for going on 7 years. It's utterly fantastic. I've put almost 60k miles and l think l love it now more than when it was new. The only thing that's almost as good as driving it it it's attention to detail, every single thing is high quality. I bought the donor car new so it's amazing what they did to it.
My cousin had an 87 930 factory slant nose turbo that had a ton of work done to the engine, brakes and suspension. This thing was insane and as scary to drive as a gen 2 viper!!!
I had a 1973 911 Carrera RS in the early 90's, a 1970 914-6 race car from 2001-2004, and my father currently has a 1961 356B Roadster Super 90, and a 1967 911L with factory AC and 911S cams...and, used to race a 1958 356A Speedster...but, he's had a lot of air cooled Porsches. My uncle Phil used to own Klub Sport Racing, and he's owned everything from 356's to 962's. More fun than buying gold. LOL! Look up Gunnar Porsche, and the Porsche 966... Cool story.
His cousin needs more cowbell! But ya, love Catherine Wheel. He has some solo stuff from after that's pretty good too. Those are some pretty dang sweet Porsches too.
OMG how have not seen this yet??? i've always wondered how matt or joe would react after even seeing each other lol, its like matt is the driver joe and joe is the mma matt
Anyone else notice his friends name is Leaking (Lee Keen) You can actually drive this version of the Rally Porsche on Horizon 5 ..this things slides through turns.
While I appreciate these cars and conversations about them They are just out of my wheelhouse I like American affordable muscle Or even old some German sedan muscle or Japan power Porsche is the beginning of “beyond my means”
I know exactly how joe feels about vw bugs.. I own a 64 hillman imp (first hatchback ever made and mini's competitor) which is rear engined and weighs 600kg... my god it's the funnest car I've ever owned, im only 24 so I haven't owned many but its like driving a go kart, it just hugs the road and its so tiny I can touch the road when I put my arms out the window lol.
Matt said that no power steering with a front engine car is harder. I had a 1968 BMW 1600 with a highly modified 2002 engine in it. It was a little rocket and I had no problem steering it with no power steering. I miss that car:(
Singer Porsches are works of art. Period. There's not much you can compare to one. And you either get it or you don't. They're simply the most TASTEFUL, beautiful, custom cars on the planet. No I'll never be able to afford one, but the workmanship and the end result are simply mind blowing. For fuck's sake don't compare a Singer to an RWB. Yeah they look cool, but a Singer is ALOT more than wide wheels and glue on fender flares. Anyone who bitches about the cost has NO clue what goes into building one.
It has an exponential price vs. power curve like that IF you are staying N/A. You can get a 935 for not much more than 250k and thats a lot more than just an engine & makes a lot more than 500hp.
I have a Jake Raby 4.0 liter 997 and love it. I keep telling myself to sell it but never do and I can get some money for it but just cant do it. Its amazing.
I don't have a porsche, but i do have a first gen mr2 SC. Only electric assist is the steering but that doesn't help with snap over steer. Those older sports cars drive like nothing else and the only newer car i can say that drives like that is the viper Srt10. The viper wants to kill you lol took a class with the Vipers of America club. A buddies dad shows owners how to drive their cars and when they were at IMS i got to take a few out on the track and it's so much fun but that car is an entirely different beast. Joe needs more car guys on the show.
Made me chuckle when Joe talks about „those rich people“, like he isn‘t in that category :-)
He’s one rich duck
Joe is very humble, no matter how rich he gets, he'll still see himself as poor when compared to say someone like Jay Leno and his collection
You ever met Joe? I promise you'll switch your stance on Joe if you bump elbows with him. He's not "a rich dude" buy any means. Most down to earth person.
I am not talking about „rich“ as an attitude but as a fact. I never said he‘s an asshole about it. Lets remember, he bought a Tesla P100D...practically sight unseen, because Elon recommended it. I call that rich people behaviour, and yet today he talks about „those rich people“ like he isn‘t one of them, that made me chuckle, thats all.
How about *well off 👍😁
singer Porsche's are a thing of beauty. Saw one on a quiet upper-middle-class street once and spent a couple minutes taking pictures and admiring the craftsmanship.
I am a German car specialty mechanic and I love the old aircooled porsches, but I'm poor so I daily drive a 1963 bug. Even with 40 horsepower I get a smile on my face everyday. I'm building a 150hp engine though :)
You could buy an old 997 and rebuild it and end up with effectively a new car. Do this a few times and you probably will be selling them for a profit.
Jacob Holbrook one-day
Jacob Holbrook the beetle is great. Probably the most fun you can have within local speed limits
With passion like that I hope you get what you really want sooner than later, buddy. And I'm sure you will. Don't lose that passion.
NEGATIVE.... most fun... that's a proper mini cooper :)
I wanna see more car stuff with Joe, he should get the grand tour boys on
That would be insane
He should go on TGT guest show, and they should come to Joe's podcast.
Joseph Basile I agree about the cars but there’s better people out there than them 3 wankers though
Dog Cunt keyboard warrior eh,why don’t you get a life instead of trolling,why don’t you leave your parents & get a job & maybe a girlfriend....btw I’m kicking your Ma out
that would be sick
James May once said that a Singer Porsche was a love letter to a car and i would agree whole heartedly
Yes.
I was always a Porsche fan. But when singer came out ; I became a singer fan also. GORGEOUS
seeing a singer in person is an amazing experience. there were a dozen at the monterey historics last year
Yeah, we have a Porsche specialist in Leeds with a few RBW cars, singers, and full-out race cars.
Mostly Singer-based and outlaw-style cars.
I cycle passed every few days and walk away from garbage and car storage and car park car. Amazingly, all the same car but the variety is extreme.
I feel what Joe is saying. When I was in the Army, my platoon sergeant had this VW Bug with a Porsche engine swap and it wasn't fast at all, but it was such a unique experience. You felt connected to the car and the road even if the handling was really bad. 😅
the actual Williams Porsche came out today. probably the most beautiful car ive ever seen. EVER.
What SINGER is doing with the 911's is just phenomenal!
Gunther is way better
@@kylewashington5567 Guntherwerks builds look like restomods clearly whereas the Stinger cars can easily be mistaken for an original classic. You barely see unpainted carbon in the Stinger whereas the Guntherwerks cars I've seen have alot of exposed/tinted carbon. Both are eye wateringly expensive. Do check out Theon Design from the UK. They do similar builds but at like 1/4th the cost.
@@kylewashington5567 apples and oranges bro.
@@kylewashington5567Gunther is way less raw of a driving experience with their tech
Joe has the potential to have a car show…
Wellllll…… no! Love Joe Rogan, but he clearly knows very little about cars. Sorry dude…
@@mortenberg2897 what can you say about Matt LeBlanc? Joe would be entertaining and sincere
hes smart enough to learn. and open enough to listen to guests @@mortenberg2897
The DLS is incredible in person..... Matt wasn't kidding! It literally stands out no matter what supercar you put next to it.
Porsche 911 is like the Beauty of a Woman's Body.
James Berlo in-line flat 6 is like the beauty of a woman’s moan in your ear
Mice Elf damn all this time i’ve thought they were inline 6’s crazy that they use a boxer like a subi
@@nunyabusiness8538 It can be only in line or flat, cant be both....
Hate to see your Wife!
It’s a rendering, almost just like every picture we’ve seen of the earth- Eddie bravo
Look into it
Ice Out flat Porche confirmed. well flat 6 at least.
Daniel Simon is the man behind the rendering.
Actually Earth a shit load of real photos put together, the photos weren't created from scratch you dumb faketard.
Bernie Bernstein it was a joke, calm down ignorant one
It's a level of tactile engagement Joe. To drive an air cooled era well, you MUST invest your soul into it and it will show you how to work with it's oddities and deliver a driving experience like no other car can.....and then it will keep asking for more of you. I'm stoked that you recognize the passion and beauty that is a Singer.
Get chris harris on the podcast!
hes been on before..
Dom Hanover
So?
Harris is a prick. we don't need anymore from that asshole
What makes you say that?
No.. get Joe in a car with Chris!
Old Porsches aren't cars. They are equipment. A magical interface between the driver, the road, and space-time. They are 4-wheel motorcycles. Anyone who loves to get lost in the driving experience, must drive one before they die.
I wanted to write this right now, so thx man, so true!
Perfectly said my friend!
I've driven them! They are rolling DUMPSTER fires! You have a love for them. Thats why you enjoy driving them. Face it and be honest they are trash and you must work on every weekend! Not reliable at all! They are toys! Nothing more nothing less!
@@damndman2009 I grew up driving old pickups and half dead Datsuns. I've driven an old 911 too. They smell bad, ride rough, and rattle, just like those old Datsuns, but they go where you point them, immediately. Sure, they're nothing compared to the new ones, or even a new anything, but there's something about them that newer cars just can't match.
My mom used to say she could afford to buy one, but not own one. Having owned their cheapest model (924), I know what she meant. The car was $2500 and it ran when I bought it. 2 yrs later I was $6k into it, just to keep it running.
FWIW, I miss that piece of shnit.
@@erso3302 Very well said. You have my respect. Cheers mate! 🍻
I was never a Porsche fan, but that green Singer is gorgeous
Joe Rogan is like a blank page when it comes to cars, he finds everything exciting lol
These guys are funny to listen to, especially when talking about the cooling.... air cooled Porsche cars actually have an oil cooler like a radiator in front and long pipes that carry the oil to the front and back, making them air/ oil cooled
What I love is the fact that it's built so well that it'll handle track abuse like few other cars will.
Race cars don't even handle track abuse.
F1s have to full engine swap every 2000km
@@Crayma800 well yes, because those are 1.3L v6 engine producing near 700bhp, they are absolutely insane pieces of modern engineering, there’s no way to extract that much power from an F1 engine for a sustainable amount of time…
Plus I think what he means by track abuse is more to do with suspension & handling rather engine power
@@justadummy8076 Both of your stats for f1 cars are incorrect, they're 1.6 litres and around 1000bhp
As an endurance racer in my free time, I just can’t imagine a rear engine, air cooled 500hp Porsche holding up to any of the abuse I could throw at it, maybe im wrong tho
I loved the air cooled.. That was my first.. Flying up and down I-5 from San Diego to Portland OR.. Doing 150 up the hills cause the speed traps are on the downhill side. All the twisty roads branching off the I-5 to the coast or eastward.. Good ole days
I love those type of videos sooo much!!! Thank you guys for making my day! I got a feeling that I will return to this one many many times!
I've raced 510s for decades. Back in the 80s I drove a Baja Datsun 240Z on the dirt roads above above Rosarito Mexico. With a Nissan Performance factory team engine making 300hp NA and it was gorgeously death defying.
I love my cayenne, one thing Ive noticed in a Porsche is that all the material is quality material, from the buttons to the engine, the seats everything is tough, looks and feels quality, buttons don't move or raddled etc the gadgets, the electronics, sorry first time Porsche owner.
1987 Ruf CTR Yellowbird claimed 467hp but regularly made 500hp on dynos. Unfortunately they only built 29 of them.
Turbocharged. The whole point of the new Singer engine is to get 500 normally aspirated horsepower, to create the ultimate driver's car.
The ctr 2 gives me automotive hardons. So fast. So pretty. The yellow bird was way ahead of its time.
The widowmaker, fuck that car. The front literally rises when you accelerate too fast.
@@bigshorty4855 lol that's what it's all about
@@Ethan-wr2os not being able to corner and dying? Lol, good to know 😂
Porsche worked on 4 valve heads in the 60s and I think they rallied them, but the problem was that they couldn't make it work well enough with air cooling.
True the 917 had 4 valves, the 959 had 4 also but wasser cooled
The only Porsche I ever cared about was the 993 turbo. When I discovered Singer, that made me a fan of Porsche.
Singer 911's set an unrealistic beauty standard
Joe should watch the Ruf CRT yellowbird Nordschleife lap
Yes Turin - and RUF are qualified to modify air cooled Porsches - not these singer car-paedos
Drove a first gen MR2 and it had manual steering and breaks.
Was awesome!!
I had the pleasure of seeing one in person, and i could see the carbon weave under the paint, it was so cool. the tail lights are pure art. thing is probably a dream to drive
Aircooled would include 1998 and prior 911 models. The “pre 95” comment was misleading. If he meant to allude to the 964 then it was also missing the pre 964 cut off year.
I have a Singer for going on 7 years. It's utterly fantastic. I've put almost 60k miles and l think l love it now more than when it was new. The only thing that's almost as good as driving it it it's attention to detail, every single thing is high quality. I bought the donor car new so it's amazing what they did to it.
Chris Harris should definitely do another podcast with Joe soon !
These 911s are in the top5 or in my case best looking cars ever. The noise they make is sensual in engineering terms
Singer 911s are the ultimate dream car, to me. That, and a Countach. Pure fantasy!
At work making cylinder heads for said Car and this video pops up on my feed. 😳
Germans have created many beautiful cars.
The Porsche is timeless.
The mecganical raw feel of classic 911 is incredible
"There is a company called William, that is a formula 1 team"
Automotive equivalent of Name Dropping.
Haha, so true. It's the true test of being a car nerd [F1 Knowledge]
It's Williams
i have an air-cooled porsche. the car makes me smile every time.
"Everything you love about a 911 applies to this" - a great man
Finally just got my Porsche, loving on this episode
Happy Thursday y’all!
Is it on Instagram?
My cousin had an 87 930 factory slant nose turbo that had a ton of work done to the engine, brakes and suspension. This thing was insane and as scary to drive as a gen 2 viper!!!
The Williams and singer collaboration can hardly wait for the finished product
That green Singer Porsche has been my screen saver for years.
Another one is Gunther werk, also amazing, all done inhouse, even the lights, mirrors, everything.
The old school "Bugs" make you smile because, they sound like the George Jetson mobiles :) :)
I agree with Joe's Volkswagen Bug statement.
911's are great. Singer's take is fantastic. RUf...is on another level entirely.
That was fun, even when Matt said "very unique" great to see the vicarious joy.
It's really strange how certain shapes look so much better in certain colors... Joe's right Fuchs wheels are the shit.
Air-cooled nines went to 97/98. And the 964 is from 89-93.
i was a kid when chuck norris did "good guys wear black". i have been a 911 fanatic ever since. that singer stuff is crazy awesome.
Thing of beauty, Singer 911s
I had a 1973 911 Carrera RS in the early 90's, a 1970 914-6 race car from 2001-2004, and my father currently has a 1961 356B Roadster Super 90, and a 1967 911L with factory AC and 911S cams...and, used to race a 1958 356A Speedster...but, he's had a lot of air cooled Porsches. My uncle Phil used to own Klub Sport Racing, and he's owned everything from 356's to 962's. More fun than buying gold. LOL! Look up Gunnar Porsche, and the Porsche 966... Cool story.
My boy Rob Dickinson owns the Singer company. He used to be the singer for the band Catherine Wheel which had some incredible albums in the 90's.
MY HERO
And he's like, Bruce Dickens one's nephew.,, Or some such
I wish he'd build a 911 in Black Metallic.
@@mrjdgibbs cousins
His cousin needs more cowbell! But ya, love Catherine Wheel. He has some solo stuff from after that's pretty good too. Those are some pretty dang sweet Porsches too.
This... Was fantastic. I didn't know Rogan was such a Porsche fan. I'm kinda man crushing on him. No homo.
The guy has a GT3RS Sharkwerk.
Singer is way more exquisite on so many levels than RWB that to even mention the two in the same sentence is sacrilegious.... damn I just did
If you love the likes of Singer & RWB's work then you need to check out RUF. They have made some of the best/fastest Porsches ever. 👌
NorthSea0il I thought that green one was a RUF
Nope, Singer.
Check out DP motor sports Porsche’s as well
But Rufs were ugly
NorthSea0il them RUF's was crazy fast. Anyone who played the first Gran tourismo who remember those wide bodied beasts lol.
OMG how have not seen this yet??? i've always wondered how matt or joe would react after even seeing each other lol, its like matt is the driver joe and joe is the mma matt
Some episodes are like meditation ❤️
Funny how Joe talks about driving a VW bug. The original mini was the same. Just a blast to drive.
"Cool that FURRRNACE OFF!" is eternally HILARIOUS to me, for a few different reasons! 🤣
I really want a 6 speed 718 GT4. Those are so nice
I love that inline six in that 911- Joe R. That was funny.
Anyone else notice his friends name is Leaking (Lee Keen)
You can actually drive this version of the Rally Porsche on Horizon 5 ..this things slides through turns.
While I appreciate these cars and conversations about them
They are just out of my wheelhouse
I like American affordable muscle
Or even old some German sedan muscle or Japan power
Porsche is the beginning of “beyond my means”
I know exactly how joe feels about vw bugs.. I own a 64 hillman imp (first hatchback ever made and mini's competitor) which is rear engined and weighs 600kg... my god it's the funnest car I've ever owned, im only 24 so I haven't owned many but its like driving a go kart, it just hugs the road and its so tiny I can touch the road when I put my arms out the window lol.
Matt said that no power steering with a front engine car is harder. I had a 1968 BMW 1600 with a highly modified 2002 engine in it. It was a little rocket and I had no problem steering it with no power steering. I miss that car:(
Im REALLY curious as to what Andreas Preuninger thinks of this project ^^
Hey Joe (not the Hendrix's song - hahaha)! Finally there is an American that can pronounce the last name (proper noun) Porsche correctly. Kudos man!
Gotta admit those Porsche's are gorgeous cars
Joe buys 3 Singers right after this podcast.
I see a Singer every day in summer in SW London 😍
Joe, I love your take and approach on cars.
This was such a great podcast
STOP MAKING PODCASTS I CANT STOP WATCHING AND ALL MY TABS ARE YOUR PODCASTS TO WATCH LATER
I worked at a shop making vw style bb Chevy rod/piston cases. So, more displacement is available.....at a steep cost!
Damn I love the Porsche brand.. GT4 RS coming in June..Can. Not. Wait..
Singer Porsches are works of art. Period. There's not much you can compare to one. And you either get it or you don't. They're simply the most TASTEFUL, beautiful, custom cars on the planet. No I'll never be able to afford one, but the workmanship and the end result are simply mind blowing. For fuck's sake don't compare a Singer to an RWB. Yeah they look cool, but a Singer is ALOT more than wide wheels and glue on fender flares. Anyone who bitches about the cost has NO clue what goes into building one.
Rogan talking about cars is like Callen talking about MMA
the way Singer builds 911s, its worth the asking price. The basically rebuild you an pre-water cooled 911 to be brand new and higher tech.
It has an exponential price vs. power curve like that IF you are staying N/A. You can get a 935 for not much more than 250k and thats a lot more than just an engine & makes a lot more than 500hp.
One of these days we're gonna get Matt, Joe, Chris & Larry in one Podcast
The Yellow bird brought Porsche back from the brink
I have a Jake Raby 4.0 liter 997 and love it. I keep telling myself to sell it but never do and I can get some money for it but just cant do it. Its amazing.
Sounds a lot like a conversation about watches.... 💜
Singer does make good looking cars. We had a bit of job to do the best looking Porsche 911 I would drive, but I think we did it! :)
Fucking love car talk!
Digital Alchemy is bad ass stuff, real and digital are meshed to a degree of detail that’s insane.
It's not how fast you go, it's how well you go fast!
Eddie Bravo:
Singer 911 was a False Flag 🚩
I don't have a porsche, but i do have a first gen mr2 SC. Only electric assist is the steering but that doesn't help with snap over steer. Those older sports cars drive like nothing else and the only newer car i can say that drives like that is the viper Srt10. The viper wants to kill you lol took a class with the Vipers of America club. A buddies dad shows owners how to drive their cars and when they were at IMS i got to take a few out on the track and it's so much fun but that car is an entirely different beast. Joe needs more car guys on the show.
I have that William's engine as my wallpaper, this Singers are like the best 911's you can buy. Those are like the Pagani's of the Porsche world.
Joe “raw dog” Rogan
I could speak to these two about cars all day! (y)
Been waiting for joe to get talking about cars for awhile
3.2 in my 1977 factory widebody. Air and oil cooled.