Hello, i have question. So we just bought a 2024 Subaru Crosstrek wilderness and I'm wondering what the sport mode does? Basically if I was 'off-roading' on say like a muddy incline or something Would I want it in sport {S} mode or the regular {I} setting in steering wheel
12:56 That beeping is the collision warning system detecting an obstacle. It will cut power to "help" you not hit the obstacle, sometimes it even cuts power when it's not giving an audible or visual warning. You need to turn off the collision mitigation when you are having trouble off-road. I wish we could see what it would do without the collision mitigation holding it back. The Crosstrek Wilderness is a little mountain goat. I'm glad to hear you've still got your 2021 Crosstrek. I'm enjoying my 2021 Crosstrek Limited. Keep up the great videos!
Yeah, I turned off the collision avoidance system on my 2024 Crosstrek Sport, because on rolling highways in rural areas, it slams on the brakes when it sees the road on the other side of flash flood dips in paved highways, out here in the Mojave desert. Any sudden steep change in grade where the road rises rapidly in front of you, will trigger it.
I love our new Crosstrek Wilderness. We could not afford a 70k money pit Jeep Rubicon so we got this. VERY happy! Fun car! Thank you for these tests! Crazy how much it can do!
Just purchased a used 2023 forester wilderness. Lots of research went into it, and this channel had lots of good information to assist me in the decision. Thank you!
Getting up "The Ladder" section alone is respectable and commendable. All things considered (AWD, CVT) the Crosstrek Wilderness actually outperformed. It's punching way above its class. Very impressive. Gives me an idea what my new 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness is capable of.
i totally agree with you, the fact that it can do all the very difficult courses with a CVT is amazing, imagine what a manual or automatic gear will made if only they offered it.
LOVE my ‘22 Crosstrek! I agree with Ryan. It is by far, IMO the best all around vehicle you can buy for the money. Plenty zippy around town, great mileage, comfortable on the highway for long trips and plenty capable for trail and off-road use. Not huge cargo capacity but plenty for camping gear etc, for my use case anyway. And the comfort is amazing. I have a terribly bad back and neck from heavy labor for most of my adult life and this is the only car I’ve ever owned that I can road trip and not be sore on the other end of the trip. I’ve had several Subies over the years but this is by far my favorite. Thanks to Ryan and his reviews of it for talking me into buying this little beast. Lol.
@@ololosha9733 so for 40K you get a stripped down SR5 model 2wd 4Runner. Add the 4WD powertrain, you jump up to 43,975 immediately. That’s without adding ANY options. So not even close. If you spec out a 4Runner with options close to what the CTW offers you’re looking at close to 50k.
Gonna miss the Crosstek Wilderness! Thanks Subaru for working with Ryan & Driving Sports TV to make this happen. PLEASE keep up the great relationship between you two and continue to give Ryan more long term test vechiles.
Got my Wilderness 3 months ago, and it feels like more car than what it is. Its road presence is very tame and responsive, it doesn’t feel like an off roader. I love every time I get behind the wheel, it’s the most fun car I’ve ever owned. And I’ve owned over 2 dozen cars in my life so far, and this little Subie just knocks my socks off every day!
I have a 2019 Crosstrek, lifted 2 inches with 15 inch wheels and Falkin AT Wildpeak tires. Manual transmission, It's amazing with 33mpg on hiway. I do wish it had adaptive cruise control.
My 2019 crosstrek with Readylift 2 inch lift, off road Falkin Wildpeak ATs on 15 inch wheels would easily crawl up this course because I have the rare and elusive Manual Transmission.
I did a hill like that yesterday with 3 inches of snow on it. was down to 20 psi and my 24 crosstrek wilderness walked up like it was nothing. I really didn't think it was going to climb it but dam Subaru. You built a extremely capable little rig. Do love my crosstrek and the Yokohama geolander ats in the snow ❄
watched his videos on this almost a year ago and it made me test drive one and ended up getting it. I have to say this car is awesome I have put 23,000 miles on it my first year of owning it and I have towed (2800lbs), hit the trails (with an offroad camper), and traveled cross country (MI to CO then back) with ZERO issues! now into winter this thing handles the ice/ snow covered roads like beast!
We have watched your entire series about this long-term crosstrek wilderness. We are torn between the obw with 90 more hp vrs the ctw smaller size for tighter trails. Either way they both seem to be very capable. We love your hands on reviews Ryan.
I've spent a lot of time researching and I have a feeling the crosstrek was limited in this video by its power not off-road capabilities. I bet the OBW could have done at least that first hill that stumped the trek
After watching all the videos you made on this Subaru, I've been trying to convince my wife that we should get one. Very capable little vehicle. Impressive
Thanks for all your work Ryan! Really appreciate how engaged you are with your viewers and questions/comments! Was rooting for the Crosstrek here on its final run
I watched you reviews of the Crosstrek Wilderness before purchasing my own. You have taken it through terrain and places above and beyond my off road explorations , but it's nice to see what it's possible to do in my fun little car.
My 2018 Crosstrek Premium has always gotten me to end of the trail; to the amazement of many people in way more expensive and tricked out rigs. 225/70R16 Geolanders on Motegi 339's, Asfir skid plates (3), .5 inch Rallitek rear overload springs, and lots of lights help. It is also very easy to spot in a parking lot.
I had a 21 crosstrek sport and bought a 2023 outback. I miss the crosstrek tbh. It felt like a little dune buggy. Great on gas as well. I was averaging 33mpg compared to 26.7 on the outback.
Awesome vehicle! Had a few friend change from their leased Toyota rav and Honda pilot to outback’s and a crosstrek. They love them so much better. I can see why
I owned a 2016 was a beast, but lacked any tech had the older CVT etc but still a wonderful safe vehicle, had a 2020 Forester for 5 years and just traded for an Ascent Touring. We test drove a Crosstrek wilderness for fun but it’s too small for a large family but maaaaan!!!! That thing is a total blast so fun to drive so funky it’s awesome!!
@@prettysheddylove it! Rides perfect, handles great and very very usable space. Fuel economy is 18-20 in town and 20-24 highway in Arizona (keep in mind it’s the middle of the summer so that is the worst mpg I should ever see)
i got a 2023 outback wilderness after watching your videos on them, Ive been letting people looking for a new car drive it, as no one was even considering a subaru otherwise, i always say "just try a subaru, trust me" my neice wants a first car and really wants the Toyota CH-R, im trying to convince her to get a crostrek instead
We bought a 2019 Crosstrek Limited on the basis of the reviews you’ve done on the Crosstrek, and I only stumbled across the channel by accident. We’re now looking at getting an Outback Wilderness next year.
I have a 21 base and its proven to be exactly the car I needed. I got snowed in at hotel with about 34 inches of snow and it didn't flinch. The plow didn't snow about half of it from the main drive and nothing else. I jumped in my car and lasted out of there to the mountain no problem. Then I found out the mountain was closed...
The Forester and the Outback would have struggled with that course just because of their longer wheelbase alone. The Crosstrek Wilderness did pretty dang well for what it was truly designed for. Just the stuff you have done with these cars on your courses, tells me I'd be perfectly fine in a Subaru Forester Wilderness, even if I wanted to go camping, I've taken my 2WD Ranger up to where I go camping several times without issues, so a Subaru would make that a breeze. I don't do much offroad stuff, so the Subaru would be fine for my needs....unless the snow gets too deep LOL.
As an owner of a '22 OBW, I feel there is an issue with this Crosstrek not able to send power to the rear wheels. Each time the car struggle, you could see the rear wheels not spinning. I don't that issue with the Outback Wilderness when in Xmode-2 and flooring it: all 4 wheels will spin.
@@Traumatree I think that is why Subaru OBW can climb a hill that is 40% I think most of this has to do with the gearing and the turbo. The only fault of the Crosstrek is the lack of power. Now if only Subaru would drop the 2.4 Turbo into that little Crosstreck it would be a Monster. Of course Subaru will never do that, and that is a shame!
@@AmirSharon No it's not it is even worse than the Crosstrek as the Crosstrek lighter and could not make it up a hill at 26% THE Outback Wilderness can climb a grade that is 40% Keep telling yourself what you wish facts are facts. They made the OBW the most capable out of the 3 of them. I really think both the Forester and the Crosstrek need more power. If they get more power than I will agree with you, but as it's stands they are underpowered especially on the steeper stuff.
@@johnkkkj the Forester and crosstrak has the TR 580 cvt trasmission better then the OBW ,you can watch Sarah tunes on the the same climb OBW failed where Forester and Crossterk passed on the same climb. the Turbo isnt importing in this kind of climb track the transmission is more importing. in general all Subaru's does not have law transfer on the transmisdion so the differenses is minor between them.
Been meaning to leave you a message for a while now, we had been watching your channel for around a couple years before we finally got us an adventure type vehicle and wanted to thank you for the information you provide on your channel about all of the vehicles you test. We originally intended to get a Crosstrek, plain model, but the local Subaru dealer in my area tried to scam us and also stole my indentity to try and finance me for $40,000 on a $25,000 list price base Crosstrek. We wanted the Wilderness, but was just out of our reach. We ended up getting a 2021 Jeep Compass Trailhawk from a rental agency with about 64k miles on it. We're loving it so far and we've forgotten all about the Crosstrek and having to file complaints and identity breach against the dealer. Subaru really needs to impose some kind of control over their public image and dealerships because as of right now, GOAT or not, we'll never own a Subaru. We'll stick with other options.
When you're doing those real trails out there that are narrow with sharp angles, be glad you have a Crosstrek or Forester Wilderness that that is more nimble and capable of fitting through.
Splendid video, this vehicle is definitely not for 26+ steep climbs with loose stones and dirt, BUT it goes so well for 99% roads we normally drive. Great vehicle, great video, thanks.
Own a ‘22 Forester Wilderness that sees trails not infrequently. On a particularly steep hill (at least 22 degrees) with x-mode in snow/dirt, I got stuck about halfway. With x-mode turned off and a reasonable amount of acceleration, it made it up. No sweat. Couldn’t help but feel I could have gone up either climb in this video. These things are immensely more capable than what can be seen from behind a screen. Nice try nonetheless🙌
I'm impressed it didn't over heat the CVT, Great job Subaru. Now it's time to take a Bronco Sport Badlands up the new courses and see what it can do, though you may want to wait for the 2025 refresh.
Ryan gave up before the Crosstrek did 😂 very cool. Im trying to convince the Mrs to get a wilderness so that i dont always have to take my truck everywhere off pavement.
I love seeing the crosstreck wilderness put to the limit, knowing I'll never even try that terrain. Gives me full confidence my subie will get me anywhere I really need to get as long as the path was graded at one time or another.
Thank you for touching on whether or not the larger tires rub at all. I have 35"x11.5''s on my stock 2024 Gladiator, and, sure, there is no rubbing while on the street, but once you get the front suspension fully articulated, there is some very slight rubbing while at full tilt and turn. Next time, check for rubbing while at full articulation and full turn.
I Believe the reason it was cutting power on the anaconda is because it was detecting an obstacle ahead (My OBW does the same) try killing Eyesight next time and that may help with momentum runs :)
Both my OBW 22' and 24" cut power if the eyesight front collision detection is not turned off. Turn it off and you'll see a marked improvement when in difficult off-road situations ("for a Subaru"). On hard trails, it is essential to disable eyesight.
I really like your channel and reviews! You always go out of your way to show people what these cars can do and this video is no exception! I really appreciate that! I would love to see if a two door Jeep Wrangler JL sport can do this. I don't think people know how capable they actually are even stock tires. I only see reviews of the rubicon model trying harder trails.
Should have aired down. And turned off pre collision detection like you've done before. I pulled the front and rear swaybars off my Crosstrek Wilderness. Substantial more rubber to the ground before lifting wheels.
debating on getting this or the outback wilderness. This car fits my lifestyle more, but I love the way the outback looks and has more of a sense of safety.
Thank you for this great video once again. I think it's an absolutely fantastic vehicle in its capabilities. Nothing it could do in the stock setup attempting to fight against gravity on loose ground. This is probably when you would pull out your recovery boards or air-down your tires in a real-life situation, but that was not the intent of the video.
@@TexasStormChaser True, understood it's the Wilderness model. But without much traction on any of its tires, the X-mode feature could not be engaged properly unless there was some user intervention to enable said traction.
@@TexasStormChaser Actually wasn't too interested on it competing against any other vehicle. At that price point, it's a very capable machine. I do own a 2019 model year.
@@piyushan_abeynayake what? No. A 2024 XV Wilderness with options is right around 40k. 40k for an “off road” CUV with 170hp engine, no 8-10 speed auto just a weak CVT, no low range or lockers is insane. It’s a 25k car at best. At the 40k range just go buy a Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk. 270hp. 9 speed auto. Low range. Locking diff.
It was a valiant effort! I'm impressed with what it was able to do, after all the Tacoma barely made it up that first hill. Even with the good tires, they're still relatively small and offer little flotation, so super soft stuff like that will always be more difficult for it.
First of all, this was an excellent and very objective video. But there’s one thing I’d really love to see as a follow-up to this video, and I’m probably not the only one. What about installing an automatic differential lock, or alternatively, a locking center differential? It would be amazing to see how you’d tackle the course with those upgrades and just how much of a difference they really make.
Hey Ryan, awesome video! After running both the falken at trails and the at4w I am curious which one would be better for snow and winter driving? It seemed like there were no downsides to the at4w compared to the at trails in terms of noise, mpg, handling, plus they look awesome! Just wondering how you think they would do in the snow compared to the at trails which for me have been great in the winter.
I bought my Forester Wilderness because of this channel. I always like to say Subarus can probably do 90% of what other 4x4s can do, with the exception of steep grades and rock climbing.
I’ve really enjoyed this series, and it inspired me to get my own Crosstrek Wilderness which I love. Also, it’s a lifted wagon, not a crossover, because I don’t like crossovers 😂
Yeah the course was a bit more difficult than the crosstrek could handle unfortunately. Looks very loose and dusty. I really thought it would be able to handle it. But it still handled it nicely and without overheating! Still a really great video. Love seeing the limits of the vehicles.
A more rear bias AWD will help with extremely steep uphill trails, as there is not sufficient weigh on the front axel where the power is never cut, but the rear can do only 50% max torque. Crosstrek is a front bias 60-40 or 50-50 torque split. Very capable as is the CVT has not overheated like many other competitors
I think it would be responsible if you would monitor transmission temps with a scangauge. That was some rough driving, and anything beyond 240F will start permanently damaging the rubber seals or any type of transmission. We've found that the transmission overheating light doesn't pop up until 270F on the TR580 variant of CVT, which is well passed the damage threshold. One thing that really hurts an AWD is that there's no rotational lock to the front and rear, so there's a lack of balanced grip on the loose stuff. People will modify their Subarus with coil over systems, delete their sway bars front to rear (for more clearance and articulation), mount even larger tires and higher clearance bumpers to more safely use momentum.
Yes, I'm sure you know much more than the engineers that designed this transmission on its safety and longevity limits... Have you broken down Subies CVT and tested all the seals for thousands of mileage at different temp levels? I bet you Subaru did.
I was looking through the digital gauges on my 22FW the other day and thought it was annoying Subaru doesn't have a CVT temp gauge or rear diff temp gauge. That would be really helpful in these situations.
@@ForestGallipoi Lol. Subaru designed/opted for this transmission with only fuel economy in mind, not durability. They know 95% of their customers will never take it offroad so they don't care
@@ForestGallipoi LOL, you don’t know more than Subaru engineers or even the average Joe 😂. It’s COMMON KNOWLEDGE that at 240F varnish forms and rubber seals harden. That’s not good for a transmission. CVT failures are well documented, you don’t need a degree in thermal physics, just common sense.
@@ForestGallipoi but to answer your question. Engineers from all car manufacturers have tested those rubber seals. Yes… they are rubber seals. They’re not going to magically handle higher temperatures because they’re put in a Subaru. What Subaru had to do instead is upgrade the cooling in their wilderness models.
Would have been really cool if it made it, but totally understandable that it didn't. Those more challenging courses are really meant for the top tier off road vehicles that have locking diffs, 2 speed transfer cases (for optimal low gearing to help with climbs) and even more ground clearance. That said, for a regular (inexpensive) crossover, this thing would walk all of its competitors. Pretty much everything else would have overheated and left you stuck until it cooled down and the Wilderness Subarus will still get you further than pretty much everything but the most extreme alternatives. I would be curious if those tires would fit on our Forester Wilderness. It will be a few years until we need to replace the tires, but I do like those Falkens. I assume they should fit the same way they fit on the Crosstrek Wilderness.
I'm interested in getting out of my Wrangler into a Subaru. This is the best video I've found showing its offeoad capabilities. I feel that you could've possibly made the 1st hill on the anaconda if you would have backed up more and given a harder and longer initial run. Question... did you even air down your tires at all?
For a 2.5 boxer 184 hp is nothing to sneeze at. It powers an all wheel drive unit that is beefy and I can't wait for the snow. Maybe a little more torque would be nice even though not bad as is a little more torque would make this unstoppable. I'm pulling for the Subaru Cross trek only because I happen to own one lol.
Try Subaru Outback Wilderness, Crosstrek has small wheel base for this hill this is why i believe it count make it up all the way unlike long wheel base taco
I really like these little crosstreks. It almost seemed to do better in snow/dirt vs deep snow/mud. Would love to see what this could do with a rear locker. The Hondas would have over heated trying this out. That last hill was just too loose for those tires as well it appeared. The first attempt was decent but then after spinning tires it got pretty loose.
great episode. thankes. Why didnt you clinb with deep mud and snow ? mud and snow with shifting brake power from side to other side will not work in lose climb. i recomand to install Torq locker to this kind of trailes it will climb them like a Rangerover.
Driving Sports TV since 2006. 17 years on RUclips and getting better every day. Love this channel.
I'm with you...
Hello, i have question.
So we just bought a 2024 Subaru Crosstrek wilderness and I'm wondering what the sport mode does? Basically if I was 'off-roading' on say like a muddy incline or something Would I want it in sport {S} mode or the regular {I} setting in steering wheel
A simpleton...smh
12:56 That beeping is the collision warning system detecting an obstacle. It will cut power to "help" you not hit the obstacle, sometimes it even cuts power when it's not giving an audible or visual warning. You need to turn off the collision mitigation when you are having trouble off-road. I wish we could see what it would do without the collision mitigation holding it back. The Crosstrek Wilderness is a little mountain goat.
I'm glad to hear you've still got your 2021 Crosstrek. I'm enjoying my 2021 Crosstrek Limited. Keep up the great videos!
Yeah, I turned off the collision avoidance system on my 2024 Crosstrek Sport, because on rolling highways in rural areas, it slams on the brakes when it sees the road on the other side of flash flood dips in paved highways, out here in the Mojave desert. Any sudden steep change in grade where the road rises rapidly in front of you, will trigger it.
My 2010 Forester has 204,000 miles and is still running like a champ!!!
rebuilding the engine in my 2009. what a fantastic car its been with, although 350,000km and a rod bearing failure has taken its toll....
@@danielbuysen2488 hell yeah!! Still worth rebuilding though. These are one of the toughest cars I believe you can get. Simple to work on as well.
Just getting it broken in with that mileage 🏆🏆🏆
151k on my 2014 and still runs like new.
damn
You gave it every chance, I really respect that. You make the best videos! Im loving those Crosstreks.
I love our new Crosstrek Wilderness. We could not afford a 70k money pit Jeep Rubicon so we got this. VERY happy! Fun car! Thank you for these tests! Crazy how much it can do!
Plus it's really really good on fuel. We average 7.8l/100km on the highway and less than 9 in the city
You made a good choice I have a 2023 subaru crosstrek and love it it's not a power house but it does ok
I just got one a couple weeks ago. Nice rig!
Tbf, my 2012 Outback has been a money pit
@@louisvilaros9066 I also have a 23 trek and you can definitely still have some fun with it even with the lack of power.
Just purchased a used 2023 forester wilderness. Lots of research went into it, and this channel had lots of good information to assist me in the decision. Thank you!
Getting up "The Ladder" section alone is respectable and commendable. All things considered (AWD, CVT) the Crosstrek Wilderness actually outperformed. It's punching way above its class. Very impressive. Gives me an idea what my new 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness is capable of.
i totally agree with you, the fact that it can do all the very difficult courses with a CVT is amazing, imagine what a manual or automatic gear will made if only they offered it.
LOVE my ‘22 Crosstrek! I agree with Ryan. It is by far, IMO the best all around vehicle you can buy for the money. Plenty zippy around town, great mileage, comfortable on the highway for long trips and plenty capable for trail and off-road use. Not huge cargo capacity but plenty for camping gear etc, for my use case anyway. And the comfort is amazing. I have a terribly bad back and neck from heavy labor for most of my adult life and this is the only car I’ve ever owned that I can road trip and not be sore on the other end of the trip. I’ve had several Subies over the years but this is by far my favorite. Thanks to Ryan and his reviews of it for talking me into buying this little beast. Lol.
Nice work Ryan! Your work makes so much easier on consumers to choose vehicles we are after..... cheers
for $40K (or ~$37K in 2022) you can get 4Runner SR5 which is one notch higher than Crosstrek :)
@@ololosha9733 so for 40K you get a stripped down SR5 model 2wd 4Runner. Add the 4WD powertrain, you jump up to 43,975 immediately. That’s without adding ANY options. So not even close. If you spec out a 4Runner with options close to what the CTW offers you’re looking at close to 50k.
Till it starts leaking oil and the CVT goes out, both of them statistically will happen.
My 22 Crosstrek sport. Same as above. Great car
Субару достойно проявил себя .Всегда с удовольствием смотрю этот канал ,👍 !!!
Gonna miss the Crosstek Wilderness! Thanks Subaru for working with Ryan & Driving Sports TV to make this happen. PLEASE keep up the great relationship between you two and continue to give Ryan more long term test vechiles.
Every time I get in my Wilderness, it reminds me how much I like it. I've never had that experience with a car before. It's fun to drive, too.
Same here. Got mine 2 months ago. Just yesterday I was driving it and it dawned on me "I've never had a car I like this much".
Try to imagine what it it’s like to drive a 1980s Toyota…even better!
Got my Wilderness 3 months ago, and it feels like more car than what it is. Its road presence is very tame and responsive, it doesn’t feel like an off roader. I love every time I get behind the wheel, it’s the most fun car I’ve ever owned. And I’ve owned over 2 dozen cars in my life so far, and this little Subie just knocks my socks off every day!
I have a 2019 Crosstrek, lifted 2 inches with 15 inch wheels and Falkin AT Wildpeak tires. Manual transmission, It's amazing with 33mpg on hiway. I do wish it had adaptive cruise control.
My 2019 crosstrek with Readylift 2 inch lift, off road Falkin Wildpeak ATs on 15 inch wheels would easily crawl up this course because I have the rare and elusive Manual Transmission.
I did a hill like that yesterday with 3 inches of snow on it. was down to 20 psi and my 24 crosstrek wilderness walked up like it was nothing. I really didn't think it was going to climb it but dam Subaru. You built a extremely capable little rig. Do love my crosstrek and the Yokohama geolander ats in the snow ❄
I've been loving my Crosstrek Wilderness since I got it last October. Have been thoroughly enjoying all of your videos on this awesome vehicle!!!!
Your videos convinced me to buy my first Subaru, and I've enjoyed it very much so far! Thank you for your fantastic reviews!
watched his videos on this almost a year ago and it made me test drive one and ended up getting it. I have to say this car is awesome I have put 23,000 miles on it my first year of owning it and I have towed (2800lbs), hit the trails (with an offroad camper), and traveled cross country (MI to CO then back) with ZERO issues! now into winter this thing handles the ice/ snow covered roads like beast!
Love your reviews, so in depth, precise, honest and informative. 👌
❤❤my 2024 crosstrek wilderness, All I can say is wow! Exceeded all expectations.
that's exactly how i feel
I get 30 and 31 mph on my 24 wilderness sixth SUBARU and really love this one
Wow. 31 mph. That’s almost faster than the Model T
@@MistrBiggles
U had to edit your comment 😂
Your videos are some of the best out there … your series on this crosstrek wilderness has been amazing !
love my crosstrek wilderness
I just bought one 6 days ago! I love it too!👍
I love my 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness! It's so fun to drive!! Just got it April 22!!
We have watched your entire series about this long-term crosstrek wilderness. We are torn between the obw with 90 more hp vrs the ctw smaller size for tighter trails. Either way they both seem to be very capable. We love your hands on reviews Ryan.
I've spent a lot of time researching and I have a feeling the crosstrek was limited in this video by its power not off-road capabilities. I bet the OBW could have done at least that first hill that stumped the trek
What is the obw?
@@slo4295 Outback wilderness I should have left the b out
After watching all the videos you made on this Subaru, I've been trying to convince my wife that we should get one. Very capable little vehicle. Impressive
Very very fun cars. 33 mpg with the 2.5 I strongly suggest the 2.5
You beat the snot out of that vehicle and no overheating WOW, if that was a 24 Taco it would have broke !!!!
But it wouldn’t break my 23 Tacoma TRD
That was a one off issue
@@thomas735no it wasn’t. Look it up
@@lawdog516 i agree. Toyota is having one heck of a midlife crisis at the moment. And I was a former mega fanboy.
Quite literally his last video was a 24 taco on the same track and it did just fine.
I'ts good to see that Subaru makes a vehicle that doesn't overheat the transmission easily.
Thanks for all your work Ryan! Really appreciate how engaged you are with your viewers and questions/comments! Was rooting for the Crosstrek here on its final run
I watched you reviews of the Crosstrek Wilderness before purchasing my own. You have taken it through terrain and places above and beyond my off road explorations , but it's nice to see what it's possible to do in my fun little car.
My 2018 Crosstrek Premium has always gotten me to end of the trail; to the amazement of many people in way more expensive and tricked out rigs. 225/70R16 Geolanders on Motegi 339's, Asfir skid plates (3), .5 inch Rallitek rear overload springs, and lots of lights help. It is also very easy to spot in a parking lot.
I had a 21 crosstrek sport and bought a 2023 outback. I miss the crosstrek tbh. It felt like a little dune buggy. Great on gas as well. I was averaging 33mpg compared to 26.7 on the outback.
2018 crosstrek 190k miles and still kicking ass!
Awesome vehicle! Had a few friend change from their leased Toyota rav and Honda pilot to outback’s and a crosstrek. They love them so much better. I can see why
Lets make that 200,670 miles as of today baby!
I owned a 2016 was a beast, but lacked any tech had the older CVT etc but still a wonderful safe vehicle, had a 2020 Forester for 5 years and just traded for an Ascent Touring. We test drove a Crosstrek wilderness for fun but it’s too small for a large family but maaaaan!!!! That thing is a total blast so fun to drive so funky it’s awesome!!
How are you liking the Ascent and what fuel economy are you getting? That's what I am very concerned about before we purchase one.
@@prettysheddylove it! Rides perfect, handles great and very very usable space. Fuel economy is 18-20 in town and 20-24 highway in Arizona (keep in mind it’s the middle of the summer so that is the worst mpg I should ever see)
Thanks!
i got a 2023 outback wilderness after watching your videos on them, Ive been letting people looking for a new car drive it, as no one was even considering a subaru otherwise, i always say "just try a subaru, trust me" my neice wants a first car and really wants the Toyota CH-R, im trying to convince her to get a crostrek instead
Just picked up this exact car yesterday after a 2 month wait from the factory.
I love this thing..
I've mentioned it before, but thanks to you I got myself a Crosstrek Wilderness, 2 months ago. Best car I've had hands down.
This breaks my heart but respect for trying so hard to make it work, maybe Xmode 3 will get it done, one can dream
Really impressed by this little thing!
Now get the Frontier Pro 4X out here so we can see how it compares to the Tacoma!
Tires are everything! I just bought my Crosstrek Wilderness. I’ll be taking the Yokohama tires off and putting Toyo A/Ts on.
Go straight for 235 65 r17. No rubbing.
I went with Nitto Nomads on my FW and I’m super happy with them in case you are cross shopping
@@tristancefail those are nice and light. How is the road noise?
@@TheOGMattBurns there’s a little bit but it’s not bad at all!
Air down a bit?
I'll be picking up one as my very first new vehicle, super excited.
We bought a 2019 Crosstrek Limited on the basis of the reviews you’ve done on the Crosstrek, and I only stumbled across the channel by accident. We’re now looking at getting an Outback Wilderness next year.
It's funny when he says, This is Tough! He is not the one trying to climb, he just sitting there. lol
I have a 21 base and its proven to be exactly the car I needed. I got snowed in at hotel with about 34 inches of snow and it didn't flinch. The plow didn't snow about half of it from the main drive and nothing else. I jumped in my car and lasted out of there to the mountain no problem. Then I found out the mountain was closed...
The Forester and the Outback would have struggled with that course just because of their longer wheelbase alone. The Crosstrek Wilderness did pretty dang well for what it was truly designed for. Just the stuff you have done with these cars on your courses, tells me I'd be perfectly fine in a Subaru Forester Wilderness, even if I wanted to go camping, I've taken my 2WD Ranger up to where I go camping several times without issues, so a Subaru would make that a breeze. I don't do much offroad stuff, so the Subaru would be fine for my needs....unless the snow gets too deep LOL.
As an owner of a '22 OBW, I feel there is an issue with this Crosstrek not able to send power to the rear wheels. Each time the car struggle, you could see the rear wheels not spinning. I don't that issue with the Outback Wilderness when in Xmode-2 and flooring it: all 4 wheels will spin.
@@Traumatree I think that is why Subaru OBW can climb a hill that is 40% I think most of this has to do with the gearing and the turbo. The only fault of the Crosstrek is the lack of power. Now if only Subaru would drop the 2.4 Turbo into that little Crosstreck it would be a Monster. Of course Subaru will never do that, and that is a shame!
@@johnkkkj
Forestrr wilderness better then obw
@@AmirSharon No it's not it is even worse than the Crosstrek as the Crosstrek lighter and could not make it up a hill at 26% THE Outback Wilderness can climb a grade that is 40%
Keep telling yourself what you wish facts are facts. They made the OBW the most capable out of the 3 of them. I really think both the Forester and the Crosstrek need more power. If they get more power than I will agree with you, but as it's stands they are underpowered especially on the steeper stuff.
@@johnkkkj
the Forester and crosstrak has the TR 580 cvt trasmission better then the OBW ,you can watch Sarah tunes on the the same climb OBW failed where Forester and Crossterk passed on the same climb.
the Turbo isnt importing in this kind of climb track the transmission is more importing.
in general all Subaru's does not have law transfer on the transmisdion so the differenses is minor between them.
I bet that Subie is a hoot. Impressive off-road capability. Very nice and fuel efficient to boot.
Been meaning to leave you a message for a while now, we had been watching your channel for around a couple years before we finally got us an adventure type vehicle and wanted to thank you for the information you provide on your channel about all of the vehicles you test. We originally intended to get a Crosstrek, plain model, but the local Subaru dealer in my area tried to scam us and also stole my indentity to try and finance me for $40,000 on a $25,000 list price base Crosstrek. We wanted the Wilderness, but was just out of our reach. We ended up getting a 2021 Jeep Compass Trailhawk from a rental agency with about 64k miles on it. We're loving it so far and we've forgotten all about the Crosstrek and having to file complaints and identity breach against the dealer. Subaru really needs to impose some kind of control over their public image and dealerships because as of right now, GOAT or not, we'll never own a Subaru. We'll stick with other options.
I was impressed with the little Subaru in a little better than I thought it would
this channel has gone next level
Next level cheating with the tire swap.
When you're doing those real trails out there that are narrow with sharp angles, be glad you have a Crosstrek or Forester Wilderness that that is more nimble and capable of fitting through.
Splendid video, this vehicle is definitely not for 26+ steep climbs with loose stones and dirt, BUT it goes so well for 99% roads we normally drive. Great vehicle, great video, thanks.
Because you love these trail rides...we love them
Own a ‘22 Forester Wilderness that sees trails not infrequently. On a particularly steep hill (at least 22 degrees) with x-mode in snow/dirt, I got stuck about halfway. With x-mode turned off and a reasonable amount of acceleration, it made it up. No sweat. Couldn’t help but feel I could have gone up either climb in this video. These things are immensely more capable than what can be seen from behind a screen. Nice try nonetheless🙌
Torq Locker! By far the best upgrade after a set of tyres
I'm impressed it didn't over heat the CVT, Great job Subaru. Now it's time to take a Bronco Sport Badlands up the new courses and see what it can do, though you may want to wait for the 2025 refresh.
They didn't add that CVT cooler for nothing haha.
Ryan gave up before the Crosstrek did 😂 very cool.
Im trying to convince the Mrs to get a wilderness so that i dont always have to take my truck everywhere off pavement.
We’re taking the 4th section of the BDR from Cashmere to Lake Chelan today in my 23 TRD Off Road.
It’ll be a fun day
I love seeing the crosstreck wilderness put to the limit, knowing I'll never even try that terrain. Gives me full confidence my subie will get me anywhere I really need to get as long as the path was graded at one time or another.
Thank you for touching on whether or not the larger tires rub at all. I have 35"x11.5''s on my stock 2024 Gladiator, and, sure, there is no rubbing while on the street, but once you get the front suspension fully articulated, there is some very slight rubbing while at full tilt and turn. Next time, check for rubbing while at full articulation and full turn.
Definitely a great bang for your buck $$$.
Love the Crosstrek from day 1.
I Believe the reason it was cutting power on the anaconda is because it was detecting an obstacle ahead (My OBW does the same) try killing Eyesight next time and that may help with momentum runs :)
+ manual mode 1st gear is „lower” than auto
Both my OBW 22' and 24" cut power if the eyesight front collision detection is not turned off. Turn it off and you'll see a marked improvement when in difficult off-road situations ("for a Subaru"). On hard trails, it is essential to disable eyesight.
Came here to say exactly this.
Very impressive considering it's price. Ryan, have you managed to work your magic on Mercedes-Benz?
I really like your channel and reviews! You always go out of your way to show people what these cars can do and this video is no exception! I really appreciate that! I would love to see if a two door Jeep Wrangler JL sport can do this. I don't think people know how capable they actually are even stock tires. I only see reviews of the rubicon model trying harder trails.
I also love the style and comfort ride. The crosstrek looks like a missile with the aerodynamics.
We miss our Crosstrek! Great video
Should have aired down. And turned off pre collision detection like you've done before. I pulled the front and rear swaybars off my Crosstrek Wilderness. Substantial more rubber to the ground before lifting wheels.
Got the 2024 sport over the wilderness. Love it!
I think it’s a great little crossover
Thanks for all the cool videos, Ryan!
I just traded my Frontier for a 16 Crosstrek and I'm extremely happy. Its good at almost everything.
Great Video 😊
I bought my first Subaru this year, a 2024 Crosstrek Premium for $27,450.00. Really enjoying it. 😊
debating on getting this or the outback wilderness. This car fits my lifestyle more, but I love the way the outback looks and has more of a sense of safety.
Outback Wilderness also has a lot more power.
So glad you did this. Great video.
Thank you for this great video once again. I think it's an absolutely fantastic vehicle in its capabilities. Nothing it could do in the stock setup attempting to fight against gravity on loose ground. This is probably when you would pull out your recovery boards or air-down your tires in a real-life situation, but that was not the intent of the video.
This Crosstrek isn't stock.
@@TexasStormChaser True, understood it's the Wilderness model. But without much traction on any of its tires, the X-mode feature could not be engaged properly unless there was some user intervention to enable said traction.
@@piyushan_abeynayake Yeah but it’s a review of a stock vehicle. Now cheating to make it look better.
@@TexasStormChaser Actually wasn't too interested on it competing against any other vehicle. At that price point, it's a very capable machine. I do own a 2019 model year.
@@piyushan_abeynayake what? No. A 2024 XV Wilderness with options is right around 40k. 40k for an “off road” CUV with 170hp engine, no 8-10 speed auto just a weak CVT, no low range or lockers is insane. It’s a 25k car at best. At the 40k range just go buy a Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk. 270hp. 9 speed auto. Low range. Locking diff.
the only person that actually tests vehicles to their limit
Unlike the roller boys of TFL. pathetic RUclips videos
It was a valiant effort! I'm impressed with what it was able to do, after all the Tacoma barely made it up that first hill. Even with the good tires, they're still relatively small and offer little flotation, so super soft stuff like that will always be more difficult for it.
First of all, this was an excellent and very objective video.
But there’s one thing I’d really love to see as a follow-up to this video, and I’m probably not the only one.
What about installing an automatic differential lock, or alternatively, a locking center differential?
It would be amazing to see how you’d tackle the course with those upgrades and just how much of a difference they really make.
Hey Ryan, awesome video! After running both the falken at trails and the at4w I am curious which one would be better for snow and winter driving? It seemed like there were no downsides to the at4w compared to the at trails in terms of noise, mpg, handling, plus they look awesome! Just wondering how you think they would do in the snow compared to the at trails which for me have been great in the winter.
Thanks for all your videos. Based on all your tests you did with the Crosstrek Wilderness I bought the Crosstrek Wilderness and absolutely loving it.
I put Falken Wildpeak AT4W 235s on my Outback Wilderness stock rims. Love the Falkens!
These are perfect for forest service roads and little bit more. Which is perfect for most people that “overland”.
I bought my Forester Wilderness because of this channel. I always like to say Subarus can probably do 90% of what other 4x4s can do, with the exception of steep grades and rock climbing.
*Kudos for Subaru winning the most reliable vehicle.*
Ain't it lexus mate?
I’ve really enjoyed this series, and it inspired me to get my own Crosstrek Wilderness which I love. Also, it’s a lifted wagon, not a crossover, because I don’t like crossovers 😂
Wouldn’t it be a lifted hatchback, since it’s the same as an Impreza hatch?
@@sensiblecougar2723 I’m good with that too 😂
Buying one for a chase car :) Great review Ryan...
Thankfully, the last two trails are not so often to encounter, even if you go offloading.
Great video! I was hoping Subaru would let you get that car, since your video probably sold a lot of them. Including mine! (Same color too)
I also bought my CTW because of these videos. Subaru owes them big time.
Yeah the course was a bit more difficult than the crosstrek could handle unfortunately. Looks very loose and dusty. I really thought it would be able to handle it. But it still handled it nicely and without overheating! Still a really great video. Love seeing the limits of the vehicles.
A more rear bias AWD will help with extremely steep uphill trails, as there is not sufficient weigh on the front axel where the power is never cut, but the rear can do only 50% max torque. Crosstrek is a front bias 60-40 or 50-50 torque split. Very capable as is the CVT has not overheated like many other competitors
I think it would be responsible if you would monitor transmission temps with a scangauge. That was some rough driving, and anything beyond 240F will start permanently damaging the rubber seals or any type of transmission. We've found that the transmission overheating light doesn't pop up until 270F on the TR580 variant of CVT, which is well passed the damage threshold.
One thing that really hurts an AWD is that there's no rotational lock to the front and rear, so there's a lack of balanced grip on the loose stuff. People will modify their Subarus with coil over systems, delete their sway bars front to rear (for more clearance and articulation), mount even larger tires and higher clearance bumpers to more safely use momentum.
Yes, I'm sure you know much more than the engineers that designed this transmission on its safety and longevity limits... Have you broken down Subies CVT and tested all the seals for thousands of mileage at different temp levels? I bet you Subaru did.
I was looking through the digital gauges on my 22FW the other day and thought it was annoying Subaru doesn't have a CVT temp gauge or rear diff temp gauge. That would be really helpful in these situations.
@@ForestGallipoi Lol. Subaru designed/opted for this transmission with only fuel economy in mind, not durability. They know 95% of their customers will never take it offroad so they don't care
@@ForestGallipoi LOL, you don’t know more than Subaru engineers or even the average Joe 😂. It’s COMMON KNOWLEDGE that at 240F varnish forms and rubber seals harden. That’s not good for a transmission. CVT failures are well documented, you don’t need a degree in thermal physics, just common sense.
@@ForestGallipoi but to answer your question. Engineers from all car manufacturers have tested those rubber seals. Yes… they are rubber seals. They’re not going to magically handle higher temperatures because they’re put in a Subaru. What Subaru had to do instead is upgrade the cooling in their wilderness models.
With those tires it's perfect for light off road in car from factory. Great review. Greetings
The beeping is the collision avoidance system. It’s cutting the power. If you shut it off you might have made it.
Scooby Doos are just amazing. I loved my Blob Eye WRX.. Would still have it but.. It saved my life when It was hit.
Would have been really cool if it made it, but totally understandable that it didn't. Those more challenging courses are really meant for the top tier off road vehicles that have locking diffs, 2 speed transfer cases (for optimal low gearing to help with climbs) and even more ground clearance. That said, for a regular (inexpensive) crossover, this thing would walk all of its competitors. Pretty much everything else would have overheated and left you stuck until it cooled down and the Wilderness Subarus will still get you further than pretty much everything but the most extreme alternatives. I would be curious if those tires would fit on our Forester Wilderness. It will be a few years until we need to replace the tires, but I do like those Falkens. I assume they should fit the same way they fit on the Crosstrek Wilderness.
Love the fuel economy with those awesome tires. When my OEM’s wear out I am going AT4’s.
The Subie worked great, the tires are letting it down like you said 19:03
How about if you aired down?
That's for climbing rocky roads. This is loose dirt/sandy.
@@RRr-yl8zr Makes sense! Thanks👍
I'm interested in getting out of my Wrangler into a Subaru. This is the best video I've found showing its offeoad capabilities.
I feel that you could've possibly made the 1st hill on the anaconda if you would have backed up more and given a harder and longer initial run.
Question... did you even air down your tires at all?
For a 2.5 boxer 184 hp is nothing to sneeze at. It powers an all wheel drive unit that is beefy and I can't wait for the snow. Maybe a little more torque would be nice even though not bad as is a little more torque would make this unstoppable. I'm pulling for the Subaru Cross trek only because I happen to own one lol.
Try Subaru Outback Wilderness, Crosstrek has small wheel base for this hill this is why i believe it count make it up all the way unlike long wheel base taco
I really like these little crosstreks. It almost seemed to do better in snow/dirt vs deep snow/mud. Would love to see what this could do with a rear locker. The Hondas would have over heated trying this out. That last hill was just too loose for those tires as well it appeared. The first attempt was decent but then after spinning tires it got pretty loose.
great episode. thankes.
Why didnt you clinb with deep mud and snow ?
mud and snow with shifting brake power from side to other side will not work in lose climb.
i recomand to install Torq locker to this kind of trailes it will climb them like a Rangerover.