Shaft in the center of gravity vs shaft off set from the center of gravity. I guess we should all be using a 1” steel bar to putt if we go by this metric.
A lot of comments here by people who have no idea how putters work. The 'generic' is a face balanced putter meaning it is deliberately designed to rotate to face up but the tester didnt give it time to stabilise so it looks wierd and floppy on his machine. The LAB putter has its shaft through the putterhead CG so it doesn't rotate. It may feel different but I'm not too sure it offers any real advantage.
It doesn't. I know Sam at lab wants everyone to believe it's science and a cure all but the truth is once human hands go on a putter the revealer concept goes out the window. Putt what you like
One thing I've learned over my numerous years in golf is that if a red bow on yer left shoe made you golf better , then EVERY golfer would have a red bow on their left shoe
Reading these comments is hilarious. I don’t own a LAB and likely never will, cause I hate the look. But it’s not just about face balance, center shaft, etc. and yes using your hands will obviously make the movement far less drastic than the revealer shows. The point is, no matter what you do, any other putter will have movement in your stroke and especially on off centered hits. These lab putters prevent that from happening because they are lie angle balanced. If you actually go and try one, you will immediately feel the difference. It actually makes putting feel extremely odd, because it’s so balanced. They flat out work too. Sure if you’re a shitty putter who can’t read a green, control speed, or start your putt on the right line, then it doesn’t matter what you use. However if you can do the above, but want some help to improve your putting, the lab will do that. They definitely take some time getting used to, but once you do, you will absolutely see the improvement. I’m not sure why I’m defending it so much, as I dont own one and likely won’t change from the style I’ve used since 2003, but there’s a bunch of people commenting stuff that is completely off base, and I’m willing to bet if they went and tested one for an hour, they would be very surprised at how much they actually help
That “generic putter” swinging open IS THE POINT. it’s meant to correct putting strokes with excessive rolling of the face. A face balanced putter is great if your putting stroke is dead straight back and straight through which not many people have
There are MANY face balanced putters. Even Zebras were made this way 30 years ago. And guess what... people don't make anymore puts with them vs anything else.
The generic putter is if you have an arc to your putt so it’s abit more forgiving with the weight mostly in the toe of the head and the other is if you have a straight strike to it so it doesn’t flop around.
Face balance is about where the shaft intersects with the face, not the shape of the head. Center shaft vs heel shaft, farther from the center = more toe-hang. I like a face balanced blade because I have a fairly straight putting stroke, but most mallet heads feel too heavy, causing me to lose distance control
Where is it balanced to? Face balanced means it balances when you point it at the sky. Try it. Grab your face balanced putter and hold the shaft on your finger and it will stay square when pointed to the sky. Now tell me when do you putt with the putter pointing at the sky? Once you put it at address it wants to pull open because it is no longer aiming where it is balanced. This doesn't mean you can't putt with it, it just means you are compensating during the stroke for it trying to pull open.
Face-balanced putters are designed for people with a more straight putting stroke, while toe-hang putters are suitable for those who slightly open the putter back as it aids in squaring the putter. The toe hang of blade putters can be altered by adding led tape and weights, and the position of the shaft in the middle does have a slight impact on the amount of toe hang same with putters that have the shaft closer to the heel.
@@stevenarmstrong5364 just about every mallet putter that has the shaft on the heel is faced ballanced thats juts how most putters are made most blade putters that have the putter on the heel have toe hang
Also, my whole point of the comment was that they were using their mallet putter versus a blade putter. A better comparison would be a mallet versus a mallet.
For everyone saying it's just face balanced, that's not true. I've used face balanced my whole life and just switched to a lab. The difference is astounding.
This is a lab golf advertisement, there are usually 3 different putter balance specs for a standard putter, he just made an add for a putter with a no counter balance spec 😅
You do know generic putters come with different balances too, just balancing it on your finger can show a row hang v square aligned within the same models
So the generic was always going to flop around because its a heel mounted bent shaft. The £500 LAB putter is mounted in the middle with a straight shaft. At least conduct a fair example.
Lab is a gimmick. Putters are weighted and shaft positioned for your swing path. Lab putter literally is only good for people with a perfect straight back straight forward swing path. Very rare.
Good thing nobody in the world would use that thing to put. Using a tiny bit of grip keeps it from spinning. Making up problems that don’t need fixed..
… ya but when you hold a putter , it’s not actually hanging on a hook off your hands , you’re holding it as one piece , so you can still twist the putter slightly with your hands and arms and everything , it won’t stop that completely , that’s just an exaggerated way of looking at it
The putter is designed like that don’t be fooled people. If you’re using a blade it’s supposed to tow hang to account for an arching swing. If you’re swinging straight back and straight through then a mallet is more your style
Check out the Graves Lock N' Roll putter. It is close in design but has adjustable shaft and comes with 2 different shaft links. The prices are about the same.
This isn't crazy. Everyone's putting stroke is different. I've tried putters like this and I hate it. I have to alter my stroke too much to compensate. I grew up on a toe balance, so my stroke is conditioned for that. Putting isn't about what's in your hands as much as between your ears.
You missed the most important part of the demonstration. Instead of squaring the face before making the stroke do the opposite. Spin the face and then make the stroke. Or make the face facing the opposite direction of the target and make your stroke and watch how the face will move and settle on line with the target. That is the selling point.
No matter what putter you use, the face is going to do whatever your hands cause it to do when you stroke the ball. You aren't going to use that contraption on the golf course, so this demonstration means absolutely nothing. Just find a putter that feels good and you can line up consistently and learn how to use it.
It's extremely stable and has insane forgiveness on slight miss-hits, since I changed to the Link 1 I don't think I've said "pushed it" on a single putt.
This is funny...when I put with a basic putter that you would probably see at a mini golf course never had this wobble effect 😉 but thank goodness you added weight to the back
this is why I grip my putter with my hands when I putt
oh, i see.... no wonder.....
Exactly 😂 This tool is pointless
Imagine how many putts you'd make if you never pulled it or pushed it because your hands / wrists weren't active during the swing.
When you losin up on your back swing the better putter will stay square
@@naspirit1551 not the reason I miss 🤷
What i saw was offset shaft vs center mounted shaft
The point of contact is on the heel, but the axis of rotation goes through the center of the head.
It does the same thing with center shafted putters.
@@soundthealarm1622 ^ this
I’ve switched from a generic putter to a metal pole I found in my backyard and my putting’s never been better.
😂😂😂😂😂
Great example of the balance point difference of an offset vs centered putter. Gravity is a hell of a thing.
This is toe balance vs. face balance. Neither one is necessarily better and it depends on the player.
This is literally a 1AM infomercial that influencers blindly believe
The first putter is toe heavy, and the second one is not. That's the difference. 2 different types of putters for different feel
Shaft in the center of gravity vs shaft off set from the center of gravity. I guess we should all be using a 1” steel bar to putt if we go by this metric.
A lot of comments here by people who have no idea how putters work. The 'generic' is a face balanced putter meaning it is deliberately designed to rotate to face up but the tester didnt give it time to stabilise so it looks wierd and floppy on his machine. The LAB putter has its shaft through the putterhead CG so it doesn't rotate.
It may feel different but I'm not too sure it offers any real advantage.
It doesn't. I know Sam at lab wants everyone to believe it's science and a cure all but the truth is once human hands go on a putter the revealer concept goes out the window. Putt what you like
One thing I've learned over my numerous years in golf is that if a red bow on yer left shoe made you golf better , then EVERY golfer would have a red bow on their left shoe
Thank u. Whatever works, works. And 3-500$ putters don’t fix a golf game
@@Boombatz11this putter is 750
@@BogeyBoys28 okay still won’t fix a golf game 🤡
Reading these comments is hilarious. I don’t own a LAB and likely never will, cause I hate the look. But it’s not just about face balance, center shaft, etc. and yes using your hands will obviously make the movement far less drastic than the revealer shows. The point is, no matter what you do, any other putter will have movement in your stroke and especially on off centered hits. These lab putters prevent that from happening because they are lie angle balanced. If you actually go and try one, you will immediately feel the difference. It actually makes putting feel extremely odd, because it’s so balanced. They flat out work too. Sure if you’re a shitty putter who can’t read a green, control speed, or start your putt on the right line, then it doesn’t matter what you use. However if you can do the above, but want some help to improve your putting, the lab will do that. They definitely take some time getting used to, but once you do, you will absolutely see the improvement. I’m not sure why I’m defending it so much, as I dont own one and likely won’t change from the style I’ve used since 2003, but there’s a bunch of people commenting stuff that is completely off base, and I’m willing to bet if they went and tested one for an hour, they would be very surprised at how much they actually help
My 30 year old putter hits it just as good as a 600 dollar lab putter. I'm good
I tried one of these a week ago. It felt horrible in my hands when I swung it. Besides looking like a mental detector
That “generic putter” swinging open IS THE POINT. it’s meant to correct putting strokes with excessive rolling of the face. A face balanced putter is great if your putting stroke is dead straight back and straight through which not many people have
Yes, but does it make you drive further?
There are MANY face balanced putters. Even Zebras were made this way 30 years ago. And guess what... people don't make anymore puts with them vs anything else.
Loved this putter when I tried it, freaky looking but couldn’t deny it felt great, it has a built in forward lean which I really liked as well
This seems disingenuous. It's a toe hang putter he compared it to. Not a balanced face. It's supposed to be weighted that way.
The generic putter is if you have an arc to your putt so it’s abit more forgiving with the weight mostly in the toe of the head and the other is if you have a straight strike to it so it doesn’t flop around.
The shaft is thicker in the lab and in that mechanism it doesnt flop around like the other putter because the shaft is so skinny lol
would be interesting to see how many other putters do what the LAB does.
Isn't this the reason why the putters have a flat grip.surface? Prevents unintentional movements
"Look how this putter moves with no hands on it...."
Blade putters have toe hang so the putter would open up a mallet putter should be faced ballanced
Face balance is about where the shaft intersects with the face, not the shape of the head. Center shaft vs heel shaft, farther from the center = more toe-hang. I like a face balanced blade because I have a fairly straight putting stroke, but most mallet heads feel too heavy, causing me to lose distance control
Where is it balanced to? Face balanced means it balances when you point it at the sky. Try it. Grab your face balanced putter and hold the shaft on your finger and it will stay square when pointed to the sky. Now tell me when do you putt with the putter pointing at the sky? Once you put it at address it wants to pull open because it is no longer aiming where it is balanced. This doesn't mean you can't putt with it, it just means you are compensating during the stroke for it trying to pull open.
Face-balanced putters are designed for people with a more straight putting stroke, while toe-hang putters are suitable for those who slightly open the putter back as it aids in squaring the putter. The toe hang of blade putters can be altered by adding led tape and weights, and the position of the shaft in the middle does have a slight impact on the amount of toe hang same with putters that have the shaft closer to the heel.
@@stevenarmstrong5364 just about every mallet putter that has the shaft on the heel is faced ballanced thats juts how most putters are made most blade putters that have the putter on the heel have toe hang
Also, my whole point of the comment was that they were using their mallet putter versus a blade putter. A better comparison would be a mallet versus a mallet.
For everyone saying it's just face balanced, that's not true. I've used face balanced my whole life and just switched to a lab. The difference is astounding.
I did see one issue. With the second putter he picks it up off the ground before swinging. The blade he did NOT!
This is a lab golf advertisement, there are usually 3 different putter balance specs for a standard putter, he just made an add for a putter with a no counter balance spec 😅
Toe hang vs face balanced... There are many many versions of both.. non story, no offence 😂
Looks like the shaft is twice as thick so when it's locked in it can't move compared to the other putter which is loose
You do know generic putters come with different balances too, just balancing it on your finger can show a row hang v square aligned within the same models
wow we have discovered toe balanced vs face balanced putters.
Good for a straight back straight through putting stroke. Bad for a slight arc or strong arc stroke.
A brick stays square too... Do you get extra points for style these days?
So the generic was always going to flop around because its a heel mounted bent shaft. The £500 LAB putter is mounted in the middle with a straight shaft. At least conduct a fair example.
I don’t even own a putter, I putt using my wedge anywhere within 100 years.
Lab is a gimmick. Putters are weighted and shaft positioned for your swing path. Lab putter literally is only good for people with a perfect straight back straight forward swing path. Very rare.
Wow, so now people that don't have hands can play golf! Awsome
Note its centre shaft putter.
I've never,in my life seen a putter swing itself with no hands on it. The existence of the tool does not necessitate the technologies existence.
This is very similar to what heavy putter did 20 years ago
Good thing nobody in the world would use that thing to put. Using a tiny bit of grip keeps it from spinning. Making up problems that don’t need fixed..
This guy has been trying for years I remember your Hartford Golf Club video 😅
I wouldn’t classify Sik Putters as generic lol with the putter face technology they use
… ya but when you hold a putter , it’s not actually hanging on a hook off your hands , you’re holding it as one piece , so you can still twist the putter slightly with your hands and arms and everything , it won’t stop that completely , that’s just an exaggerated way of looking at it
The putter is designed like that don’t be fooled people. If you’re using a blade it’s supposed to tow hang to account for an arching swing. If you’re swinging straight back and straight through then a mallet is more your style
Check out the Graves Lock N' Roll putter. It is close in design but has adjustable shaft and comes with 2 different shaft links. The prices are about the same.
This isn't crazy. Everyone's putting stroke is different. I've tried putters like this and I hate it. I have to alter my stroke too much to compensate.
I grew up on a toe balance, so my stroke is conditioned for that.
Putting isn't about what's in your hands as much as between your ears.
Personally as I have a slight arc putting stroke I prefer a toe weighted putter. Ive tried a face balanced spider for a while but its not for me
They also have a blade and mallet version in addition to this one. Amazing putter
You missed the most important part of the demonstration. Instead of squaring the face before making the stroke do the opposite. Spin the face and then make the stroke. Or make the face facing the opposite direction of the target and make your stroke and watch how the face will move and settle on line with the target. That is the selling point.
Found a snooker cue the best putter I've used so far!
No matter what putter you use, the face is going to do whatever your hands cause it to do when you stroke the ball. You aren't going to use that contraption on the golf course, so this demonstration means absolutely nothing. Just find a putter that feels good and you can line up consistently and learn how to use it.
Guy looks like he’s shaking pepper on the generic lol
As soon as they make one that isn't fugly i might try it.
Have friends that’s got one and he said it’s junk. Trying to resale it after a mont.
My floppy hands are so fucked. This is unreal
Now lock the revealer and make a put holding it that way.
Can we see this with a face balanced putter?
And you sliding the first putter on the ground to open first?
I believe Andy Sullivan, The Average Golfer has been saying this for eons.
Why do I pay for premium but still get ads?
Doesn’t help if I can’t read the greens 😢
I seen these tests, but most golfers don’t have a straight path, most have slight arc, would you use this putter?
It's extremely stable and has insane forgiveness on slight miss-hits, since I changed to the Link 1 I don't think I've said "pushed it" on a single putt.
@matthewshepherd826 I know I do own a lab putter and I do find it extremely stable it's just very difficult to look at it it's not appealing at all!
Wide grip helps it not twist on that contraption to
This is why i have all 4 lab putters
But has your handicap improved because of them...are you really holing out more putts?
Congratulations, you’ve shown the difference between a center shafted putter and one that is standard…. It’s nothing new….
This is funny...when I put with a basic putter that you would probably see at a mini golf course never had this wobble effect 😉 but thank goodness you added weight to the back
Thank goodness we don't use the "revealer" when we putt. #gimmick
For a short putt it's great but for longer putts when you have to bring the putter inside it's not so great.
proves putters are poorly engineered.
The generic putter is toe balanced no shit it rotates that way when you allow it to this is so stupid it's painful.
What’s crazy is how you think this is crazy
You can get face balanced putters that aren’t the lab ones it’s not new technology hahaha
I got the Link1 a month or so ago still getting used to distance control with it as apposed to my previous Scotty but I am holing more putts!
Those putters are just ugly , and chunky , there’s a reason why there’s only a handful being used
This is just because the lab putter is face balanced which means the toe does not swing as much
This device doesn't mean anything when we put our hands on it.
I am sure all face balanced putters do the same
Deisgners these days making their product fit a specific test, and not the intended purpose.
Blade vs mallet.
No toe hang on the mallet.
The revealer is the equivalent of snake oil!
Well it a good job that we hold the putter with two hands then as our hand twist so will any putter
Let me know when you feel the need to send it out to me to test 🤣🤣
Is the first putter face balanced? Looks it.. 🤔
my odyssey versa putts just as good and for half the price
The two putters tested clearly have different face balances by design, absolutely stupid test. Did LAB put you up to this per chance?
Nope
That's a double wide blade it's probably face balanced, well who knows I do have one with a little toe hand
You cant just say “perchance”
I have had the mezz 1 for about 2 years now
Lets drag around the revealer too now lol😅😅😅
Cool device but guess what my hands a arms don’t care where the face is it’s not just gonna fix everything.
I’ve just ordered one on the back of this, if it doesn’t work for me you’re getting trolled 😂
😂😂
Unfortunately you have to putt with your hands on the putter.
LAB Golf putters are ugly and overpriced.
Bro doesent know simple physics
What's a pooter?
And I would still 3 putt everything with that
Personally I’d never be caught dead with that ugly putter. Even if it is a great putter. The design just is not for me
i very good way to sell double bend putters.... lol
Simple question. If it’s so good, how many touring pro golfers use it? ( I haven’t seen one yet).
I’ve seen one or two but if it was so good all the pro’s would be using them 🤔
Adam Scott, Will Zalatoris, Lucas Glover. Most touring pros have 14 club deals.
@@matthewshepherd826 most have individual deals on putters if any at all.. Scotty Cameron putters are easily the most common, not all have deals
@jimlock6152 have you tried a L.A.B putter?
@@matthewshepherd826 no I’m afraid not, I have Scotty’s
Ugh, you youtubers are silly. It depends on how you swing.
Bad grip?