Here is a challenging question: *Florianópolis or Sayulita, México?* Which one would you prefer? To discover more about Sayulita and other (remarkably) safe places in México, check this video: ruclips.net/video/6J65sf-4kGo/видео.htmlsi=cXYCC3W9nNfHMg8U
Portuguese is a more difficult language to pronounce than Spanish, so I am guessing people will plan to live in a Spanish-speaking country instead of Brasil.
Hi im looking for one small city in brazil its look new city like jurere internacional i think os it on island it has a new building and small garden i forget the name of that city
Expat here, living in Florianopolis for more than 10years now. Great place, but for totally different reasons... First:Florianópolis is not cheap. It's literally more expensive than Rio/SP (Lived there, too). 850 per month? Only if you're vegan, going by bus, living in a shared apartment. Infrastructure sucks, (especially in high season), crime is okay. I don't get it.... Why sugar coating everything? It's a good place, but keep it real.
@@the_expatno way! That will get you room in a shared house. Florianópolis is expensive, cost of living compared to São Paulo (food is way high) and the gentrification is making the island unlivable for most natives. I'm born and bred hete
@@jeronimorubim, I am Brazilian, too, and why some of our compatriots like to generalize everything and in a negative way? I was in Florianópolis and of course that in the most tourist places prices are higher, but not in the whole town. The same in São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro. SP is the biggest city in the Americas and Rio, the most known abroad. Both have regions were prices are more affordable. If you want to live in Jurerê and places crowded of Argentines in Florianópolis, of course you need much money, but don't generalize.
@@JerrySmith_Hey THAT is what happens when you go into the favelas looking for some young girl tolay, RIO I am guessing ? For me in 24 years NEVER had that happen, to the opposite cops are very helpful and friendly people
I've been living here for the last 3 years but the expanses compared to the revenues are very expansive. I'm probably gonna go back live in France soon for better life conditions
Better quality of life in France???? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Are you living under a rock? You are 50 years late man. France is now one of the worst countries on the planet, literally. France has fallen. Go to estern europe instead.
I’m from the US, live in China, speak fluent Portuguese & Spanish. I’m considering different retirement destinations, esp in SE Asia, but also Latin America. I was last in Brazil in 1991 & in Floripa in ‘88. It’s my favorite city in Brazil & on my list of places to visit, but I don’t quite get your comparison to Philly, where the minimum wage & average incomes are multiples of those of Floripa. Much better to compare, for example, with Manta, Ecuador, Cartagena, Colombia, Acapulco, Mx or even Cebu, Philippines.
" I don’t quite get your comparison to Philly, where the minimum wage & average incomes are multiples of those of Floripa." Since the video is intended for retirees and digital nomads, the local wage is not very relevant.
@ Understood. Since the video is intended for retirees & digital nomads, why not use a place which is popular with retirees & digital nomads for comparison? Philly does not strike me as such a place.
I have an apt. at a very nice condo at Praia Brava, North of the Island. My rule in the summer months is: wake up, spend the day and go to sleep at Praia Brava. All the necessary services are delivered to your door!!So, no traffic jams and other inconveniences to face during the period.
Perfect name for a city that gets triple the population in season, just like we get here in Florida. There both tourist traps, that bring more negatives for a permanent residence, but a great place to visit.
I have lived in Florida for 2 1/2 years. Similar cons and pros. But for the retiree, Floripa has more advantages: no hurricanes being the most important. The other one are the people. The mixture here is kind of fun. You make friends in no time, while in Florida, people tend to gather within their own community.
FUNNY thing about both places; Change ONE LETTER in the name you get ; FLORI(D)A or you get FLORI(P)A Come from FloriDa but much prefer FloriPa, 70% less I bought an apt here and live on $600 usd a MONTH ; FOOD, GAS the car, taxes, gas for cooking, water bill. YOU could NOT live in FLORIDA even if your were homeless for $600 a month
Problem with Brazil is there is not an efficient and high quality short term rentals marketplace with guarantees and safe payment. Airbnb is a total rip-off. I can stay in an amazing place in Germany, France or Japan for the same price as Florianopolis or Sao Paulo. Meanwhile for half the price of Florianopolis/Sao Paulo, I can stay in an amazing place in like Bangkok or other countries. For 1/4th the price I can stay in an amazing price in Indonesia or smaller cities in Thailand. Since rent is my largest cost, it sadly just doesn't even make sense to try 3 months in Brazil. It's price inefficient. I literally just sat here and spent 2-3 hours researching this. And the place in Germany? I'm actually going there in 2 weeks, contract already digitally signed. Tokyo? I already stayed 3 months with the short term accomodations company a few months ago. Very high class but economical.
" I can stay in an amazing place in Germany, France, or Japan for the same price as Florianopolis" That is absolutely not true. And I say that as a Brazilian who lives in Europe for almost a decade. For the price you pay for a 4-star hotel in Florianopolis you would not even stay in Kreuzberg.
@ the_expat: I have no idea where you got your pricing ideas from... This might be the case, when you're renting off-season and freeze your ass off in a unheard 1bedroom apt. , and compare it to high season in Berlin... U should compare apples to apples.
Please tell me more about those amazing places in Germany which are cheaper than in Brazil. As a German i really would like to know. I camped at Königssee and Garmisch Partenkirchen an payed 31,50 Euros each night, just for a little Place of grass, where I can put my tent 😂 For these prices I had amazing Air BnBs in Sp, Salvador or na Ilha Grande. In Rio my girlfriend and I had 5 Nights in an 3star Hotel for just 180 Euros. Compare that with the Campingplatz where I payed 31,50 por Night. Na minha opinião Alemanha é estupidamente caro. E a situação está piorando a cada dia.
No one commenting here seems to understand that your choice of city should be built around your preferences. I was in Floripa in May, and we are now in November. I am willing to bet more money than most people have access to that there hasn't been a significant change in the city during the past 6 months. Plus, I still have several friends that continue to live in Santa Catarina. Floripa is a good city if you like surfing and hiking. If you want to live in a metropolis with access to all kinds of urban resources, then it's definitely not the place for you. Crime: it's very rare for someone to pull a weapon on you unless you are doing something reckless, such a poking your nose where it doesn't belong downtown late at night. On the other hand, pickpocketing and breaking into cars can be a concern, most especially during the summer months with the influx of tourists. Cost of living: aside from housing, you will not find a major difference in the price of things such as food, unless you don't know how to shop around. If you only go to the most expensive store in town, then yes of course you are going to pay an arm and a leg. That's no difference than solely going to Whole Foods in the USA, rather than shopping at Walmart! So don't say everything in Floripa is double the price simply because you are too lazy to go another 5 kilometers to a less expensive store. Weather: Some people actually like cooler weather. I hated being in Willemstad when I could not take a 10 minute walk at 8 in the morning without sweating bullets. Floripa is for a certain kind of person; it's not for everyone.
All the Brazilians when I was there told me that it was cold there and more expensive than any other city in Brazil except for Rio or Sao Paulo and the people were very cold as well but that it was safe
Vitória, ES has one of the best HDI in Brazil, one of the best places to open a business, raise a family, 2nd best healthy people in the country, is super organized and much cheaper than Santa Catarina. It's a beautiful place full of things to do outdoor and yet you don't see Capixabas trying to bring down other places in order to make ourselves look better. 🤦
Favelizaçao expandindo na ilha. A ocupaçao desordenada nos morros parece nao preocupar ninguem. Ja vi esse filme antes, nasci e cresci no Rio. Infelizmente Floripa caminha a passos largos para virar Rio.
Florianópolis tem urbanização dos morros por conta da geografia, há séculos ocupam os morros. Não é apenas um processo de exclusão social que levou pessoas aos morros, como foi no Rio. Não tem nada a ver uma coisa com a outra, obviamente existem "favelas" em Floripa, mas nem todo morro ocupado é favela ao estilo Rio, e a ocupação não é desordenada em sua maior parte, os morros tem esgoto, luz, agua, internet e CEP e TERRENOS. Não existe comunidades controladas por poderes paralelos (facções, etc).
Bem isso. Tá ensaiando pra virar RJ. Mas tds prefere repetir o mantra 'ilha da magia'. De mágico só se for os brownies de cogumelo que vendem na praia.
@@triviachanel ahahahahh, meu deus, o pessoal que vive do turismo realmente força, mas amigo, estamos aqui pra contar a verdade, sei que não vai gostar. As pessoas subiram os morros há séculos pq não há terrenos, e é de estragar a vista cheiooooooooooooo de favela, de prédios sujos, sem calçadas, em bairros como cacupé e cheio de gangue, tem um morro tomado de favela, que a origem atrás do presídio é de pessoas que por vergonha ficaram na ilha depois de cumprir pena, aquilo é horrível de ver, estar, sentir. cidadezinha que perdeu seu nome e foi bombardeada, se chama floriano + polis, carrega no nome sua vergonha de ser derrotada.
Hey, in the next few weeks/months up until the 14th of October, I have time to travel. I would love to visit Brazil, landing in Sao Paulo, visiting Rio, and traveling down to Florianopolis. I am 20, so I am on a budget. I want to party and go surfing and stuff, so not really much sightseeing. Do you guys think the weather conditions will be good enough? I really want to see Rio and Florianopolis because of the backpacking community and the surfing, but looking at weather reports, it seems like the water could be quite chilly. The last thing I want is to have to wear wetsuits or trousers outside. Should I look for flights to Colombia, Panama, Costa Rica, or other Latin American countries, or even the north of Brazil, or do you think central and southern Brazil in October is equally as good? P.S.: I have some backpacking experience from traveling Southeast Asia. I know Brazil is a bit pricier. I am traveling alone, and my timeframe is around the 25th of August to the 14th of October. So I guess Florianopolis in October, Rio and Sao Paulo and some other cities in late August and September. I am german btw. and great video.
In Florianopolis, there is a huge difference of temperature between the beaches in the south of the island (cold) and in the north of the island (warm). In the north likely you will not need wetsuits, but in the south, better take it. The best waves, however, are in the south... If you like surfing, try UBATUBA in Sao Paulo. Nice waves, warm water, and SO MANY beaches that you will never get bored.
@@the_expat NOT CORRECT, the island of Florianopolis has the SAME temperatures on ALL of the islands beaches. COLD. You will need a wetsuit most or all of the year unless you are from a colder Argentina, then it seems warmer here to them Maybe you meant to say the south water is COLD but in the NORTH (of Brasil) the water is warm, that is correct. If you want to check out Brasil the warmest time is from DEC to March UNLESS you go to the north of Brasil. Cities like RECIFE, JOAO PESSOA, FORTALEZA are warm or hot all year so if you come in OCT, go to the north of Brasil
@@InMyBrz NOT TRUE. Beaches in the north like Canasvieiras and Jurere are WAY warmer than beaches in the south like Joaquina. Why are you spreading those non-sense? Probably you never have been in Florianopolis.
Comparison and contrast is the basis for a video titled 'The Best Place To Live In Brazil', no?. "Attack" is your pejorative term and demonstrates your personal insecurity which coincidently is a problem in most cultures with many insecure, nationalistic people. Citizens who are too insecure to admit the problems their country, state, city or region. This is definitely a problem in Brazilian culture IMO (America as well). Brazilians, especially their musical artists constantly brag about how wonderful their country is. In my experience after >33 years in this country people who have not traveled much or never traveled and have no personal basis to compare themselves with other countries still do. Akin to claiming German chocolate cake is the best cake when ignorant of all other cakes.
I didn’t see any attack. But Floripa is not the best city. Culture is a problem. I must go to São Paulo from time to time to get some. And Floripa has attracted the wealthy, the hard workers, and parasites, being the last in great numbers, and are transforming the life here. It has been a paradise, but it’s no longer like that. You must have a high income to enjoy it. Otherwise your life is hell. High rent, long commute, and low wages.
WRONG ... YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ! I LIVE HERE, YOU DON'T Mass transit in Floripa is the best in Brasil for all of the island. Talking about Jurere, Canasvieiras, Ingleses, you have TICEN downtown direct to TICAN Canasvieiras, then many buses to Ingleses and RioVermilho, Barra de Lagoa etc. You can go from TICEN downtown to Campeche easily too. I'd rather take the bus from the north island to downtown because it's a lot easier than driving Most of the locals live in the NORTH ISLAND Up here mostly is annual rentals. Can rent a 2br apto for r$2000 or less a month Canasvieiras is another story, it is a tourist town from Dec to April, very expensive aptos r$300-600 per DAY. OFF season there you can rent furnished month to monty for about r$1200 a month because the town is empty of tourists, a ghost town except for the locals ONE big thing too is that a LOT of people on the island speak English, from grocery store cashiers to owners of small businesses. MANY MORE than what I found in the north ; Recife and Joao Pessoa where it was just about impossible to meet people who spoke english. BIGGEST NEGATIVE is the COLD WEATHER from June to October with a lot of rain and storms. That makes the beaches unavailable TAXES to register a 15 year old FIAT here are crazy, costs me about r$800 a year, 3x other places in Brasil. SAFETY - there is a large police presence here Near Canasvieiras there is a PRF police academy where police come for training all year. So in the town you always have street cops and cops going to school, is very safe. STOP SPREADING A BUNCH OF BULLSHYT
The people who work for city hall do comments like this. Canasvieiras has a sao paulo gang called PCC, inside papaquara community even with "police" as it was said. Who lives from tourism make this kind of text.
Hi I live in Jurere… and I don’t think Florianopolis is what YOU are saying! I live in Los Angeles for 25 years so I know USA very well! It’s a lot of things I don’t like about Florianopolis…. So You are making sounds like nicer than the reality!
1st - I never said Florianópolis is perfect. What I said it is way better than many American cities. 2nd - You said that I make it sound nicer than reality, but everything I said is based on reality.
@@the_expat well, I have a different opinion about Florianopolis! It’s not Cheap to live here! And as a person that travels all over the world…. I have a lot to complain about living in Florianopolis!
@@the_expat I find it hard that you can find nowadays a 62 reals e person meal on lagoa da Conceição. Very few spots in the island you'll find anything below 100.
Oi pessoal! Austriaco aqui planejando mudar na barra da lagoa em 3 anos com a minha marida. Eu quer so aproveitar uma vida na praia, surfear com gente legal, fumar pouco maconha e as vezes ir por um tripo de cogomelos nas dunas pra conectar me com a natureza, morar num appartamento de 50 m2 barato ... eu nao preciso muito, so frutas, legumes, agua, vino, um branca de surf e amor Com cuantos reiais vcs pesam eu posso sobreviver la por mes? To economisando muito forte pra afordar de sair da fria aqui ... um abrazao pras suas respuestas!
If you don't mind things like terrible mobility, lack of respect for laws (a common Brazilian trait, I suppose), all around poor quality of service, disrespectful beachgoers with their loud music and marijuana, growing number of homeless, drug-trafficking hotspots etc., then welcome to the Isle of Magic! P.S. before any whining, I'm Brazilian, born on said island. P.S. 850 for monthly rent? In a favela, maybe.
@@ursulachirin1095 NO IT ISN'T, people working in Ingleses at KOCH grocery work 6 days a week and make r$2500 or $455 US dollars You can rent a furnished apto off season or yearly for r$1200 all day, that is $220 usd
Olá, bom vídeo de Floripa, eu moro em Cuiabá, MT aqui fica em 7° capital melhor pra viver, Floripa em 4°, também é a 3° em segurança, atrás só da capital federal e Floripa, só que é bem quente e pequena tem 1 milhão de pessoas na região metropolitana inteira com as cidades do entorno, na cidade 640 mil, saindo da cidade tem parque nacional, termais, resort, nobres, primavera do leste, com cavernas, lagoas azuis Pantanal...eu queria te falar isso porquê o único turismo que tem aqui é no Pantanal direto o aeroporto é internacional, a cidade histórica, todos esses locais natureza perfeita é muito pouco explorado e aposto que o governador tá louco pra aumentar turismo aqui. Eu citei só perto da capital mas o estado inteiro é enorme e tem várias coisas como canyons com água azul cipó e jatobá.
Very interesting video, thank you for taking the time to produce it. Two pieces of constructive feedback from me: 1) Comparing only murder rates to justify if a place is 'safe' or not is not sufficient. As a tourist, the thing I am at risk of is violent crime and muggings, not murders which are usually targeted. Comparing the Violent Crime and Overall Crime rates would be a more relevant stat. 2) The English language of the narrator is pretty poor, some mistranslated words like 'public organ' (no idea what this is even trying to say), and also lots of incorrectly pronounced words (such as 'awed', and pretty much every word ending in -ed of which there are a lot). It someone detracted from the content for me unfortunately which is a shame, it might be better to get this re-narrated by someone with a higher level of spoken English. Thanks again :)
@@gasperdread in florianopolis? In which area? No doubt it will be an area that isn’t desirable or the house itself will be a dump. Please elaborate exactly where you can and provide evidence.
@@gasperdread and because your Brazilian that doesn’t mean you can be wrong?? lol do you live in florianopolis? Show me the mansion you are renting for $1500
@@the_expat provide one example, just one example of . And not in some favela or some dump that no one wants to stay in, a nice mansion, on the beach on florianopolis island. I’ll wait
*_Que coisa triste e feia ter q falar mal do Rio p tentar chegar ao número de turistas. Graças a Deus agente não precisa disso, continuamos a ganhar todos os prêmios internacionais de turismo e mais feio é esse sotoque falando a língua inglesa, mt dura e um paliteiro de prédios com areia parecendo um cimento q dá p andar de skate_*
Flat land, all city stuff, if beaches don't do it for you nothing to do. The same Brazilian justice system. I have lived in Brazil since 92, nao gosto. Women love all the city crap and Brazilian men as well. For American men >35 who like nature and tranquility not a good long-term option. This narrator is the first Brazilian I have ever heard who has a strong accent. In my experience, Brazilians speak English accent-free.
Lel never heard a brazilian speak accent free english unless they where raised abroad. But my experiences are from the North East, not the South. Either way a great people plagued by socialist incompetence.
Nada a ver. Esse canal traz informações para pessoas de fora. Eu tenho uma amiga americana que quer aposentar no Brasil. Esse tipo de vídeos ajuda bastante para ela ter mais informações.
FUNNY thing about both places; Change ONE LETTER in the name you get ; FLORI(D)A or you get FLORI(P)A Come from FloriDa but much prefer FloriPa, 70% less I bought an apt here and live on $600 usd a MONTH ; FOOD, GAS the car, taxes, gas for cooking, water bill. YOU could NOT live in FLORIDA even if your were homeless for $600 a month
Despite of the location in Latin America!!!??? Compared to a first world country!!!???? I’m sorry, starting a video like this proves how much you don’t know about “South America”, specifically Brazil. Please, I hope you don’t get me wrong but, it sounds racially offensive right in the first words of the video. I recommend you find a better and nicer way to specify some world class places. Also you should search about the term “Latin America” and how it propagated to the world. It can be also considered racial discrimination in some locations in the Earth. Disappointing….
I hate it, it has a nightmare public transport system, it s an island made to be empty to get full on summer. They are lazy people, they have crime, gang from SP and regional gang, and they dont allow to the crime be posted on news. I really know this place, and youtube knows I hate this island and always present me content about this sh t hol e. They dont make sidewalks to difficult people walking everywhere. Canasvieiras is a crime spot, even with a police formation school on it. It s a shame. There are some beachs, and the traffic will put you in anger, fast.
I moved from São Paulo to Florianópolis and let me tell you: it's hell. Over 60% of population is very poor and comes from other brazilian states. There are hundreds if not thousands of people who have committed crimes elsewhere who are hiding here. There is organized crime as in any other big brazilian city. The number of people who haze ZERO respect for others is too big. Every single week there are news and posts about elderly people being beaten up in the streets - not by criminals but local population. This is a great place if you love surfing and doing sports every single day but the most terrible choice for someone who wants to live a decent and safe life in a civilized place. And don't get me started on drug use. This is not a dream island. It's a great place to vacation or spend a weekend.
@@YasukeNakamoto Vila Velha / Vitoria in Espiritu Santo state. This city has all the infrastructure, warmer water for all year-round bathing beaches, Co Working Places in Praia du Cantu district and a lot of other options for hiking green hills. It has also a passenger train that drives from Vitoria to Belo Horizonte. Vitoria / Vila Velha is basically the safer and more relaxed Rio with warmer water.
EXPAT = You must have gone to a bad english school because your pronouncing all the -ED words incorrectly VERY COMMON for Br schools to do this but if you go to a real qualified school, they don't teach this incorrect way to speak. I am talking about words like STOPPED- you say STOPPID, or NAMED you say NAMEID, DREAMED, you say DREAMID, RELAXED you say RELAXID, BORED, you say BORID. FROM DEC to APRIL a hotel will cost you up to r$500 a DAY or r$15,000 per MONTH. OUT of season you can rent a furnished apto for r$1200 a MONTH RICH Argentinos and Uruguayians have no problem spending r$300-500 a day in the summer
You need to desperately work on your English pronunciation, voice pitch, speed and inflections, it is very hard to follow your content delivery, and unless you seriously improve, you are definitely not going to succeed on RUclips. Good Luck !
@@carolinamendes961 Please avoid arguing about terminology: it’s "native speakers" or "native speaker individuals." Also, the correct term is "bilingual," not "belingual." Thank you!
The first sentence of this video is bizarre. Although some people outside of Brazil, especially in the US, use the term 'Latin America,' I would say South America is a much technical term to be using. It's geography. .... Stop using such a racist term .. This term was created in the US to segrate the rest of americas from them US and Canada. .. Se você é brasileiro mesmo acho que vai entender o que estou dizendo.
Here is a challenging question: *Florianópolis or Sayulita, México?* Which one would you prefer? To discover more about Sayulita and other (remarkably) safe places in México, check this video: ruclips.net/video/6J65sf-4kGo/видео.htmlsi=cXYCC3W9nNfHMg8U
Portuguese is a more difficult language to pronounce than Spanish, so I am guessing people will plan to live in a Spanish-speaking country instead of Brasil.
Sayulita is not even in the same category of Florianopolis. Sayulita is actually an over-rated dump...Many better places in Mexico to visit.
Hi im looking for one small city in brazil its look new city like jurere internacional i think os it on island it has a new building and small garden i forget the name of that city
Expat here, living in Florianopolis for more than 10years now. Great place, but for totally different reasons... First:Florianópolis is not cheap. It's literally more expensive than Rio/SP (Lived there, too). 850 per month? Only if you're vegan, going by bus, living in a shared apartment. Infrastructure sucks, (especially in high season), crime is okay.
I don't get it.... Why sugar coating everything? It's a good place, but keep it real.
The $850 is for the rent only :)
@@the_expatno way! That will get you room in a shared house. Florianópolis is expensive, cost of living compared to São Paulo (food is way high) and the gentrification is making the island unlivable for most natives. I'm born and bred hete
I'm an expat and also live here and I agree with everything you say.
@@jeronimorubim, I am Brazilian, too, and why some of our compatriots like to generalize everything and in a negative way? I was in Florianópolis and of course that in the most tourist places prices are higher, but not in the whole town. The same in São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro. SP is the biggest city in the Americas and Rio, the most known abroad. Both have regions were prices are more affordable.
If you want to live in Jurerê and places crowded of Argentines in Florianópolis, of course you need much money, but don't generalize.
@@nancyleal2529 you're right, but Im talking living somewhat comfortably and I have a family. So yes, expensive
your Brazilian accent in English is charming and perfect understandable. Muito agradavel escutar.
Wow, thank you! :))
Who is afraid of Brazil? It's the most beautiful country on earth for vacations and it's relatively safe if you don't do stupid stuff
A lot of places in Brazil are very not safe... unless you consider walking down the street to be "doing stupid stuff"
Classic american/european naivness, brasil is dangerous be careful dont be tourist bait
Lived here 20 years, NO problems at all
Just don't be a stupid gringo
Stop lying Jerry!
@@JerrySmith_Hey THAT is what happens when you go into the favelas looking for some young girl tolay, RIO I am guessing ?
For me in 24 years NEVER had that happen, to the opposite cops are very helpful and friendly people
I've been living here for the last 3 years but the expanses compared to the revenues are very expansive.
I'm probably gonna go back live in France soon for better life conditions
In France?! I guess you haven't seen what is like these days huh?! 😂😂😂
Better quality of life in France???? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Are you living under a rock?
You are 50 years late man.
France is now one of the worst countries on the planet, literally.
France has fallen. Go to estern europe instead.
Good luck in New Maghreb, I mean France
I am planning to retire in Fortaleza in a few years. Let's see how it plays out.
I’m from the US, live in China, speak fluent Portuguese & Spanish. I’m considering different retirement destinations, esp in SE Asia, but also Latin America. I was last in Brazil in 1991 & in Floripa in ‘88. It’s my favorite city in Brazil & on my list of places to visit, but I don’t quite get your comparison to Philly, where the minimum wage & average incomes are multiples of those of Floripa. Much better to compare, for example, with Manta, Ecuador, Cartagena, Colombia, Acapulco, Mx or even Cebu, Philippines.
" I don’t quite get your comparison to Philly, where the minimum wage & average incomes are multiples of those of Floripa." Since the video is intended for retirees and digital nomads, the local wage is not very relevant.
@ Understood. Since the video is intended for retirees & digital nomads, why not use a place which is popular with retirees & digital nomads for comparison? Philly does not strike me as such a place.
I have an apt. at a very nice condo at Praia Brava, North of the Island. My rule in the summer months is: wake up, spend the day and go to sleep at Praia Brava. All the necessary services are delivered to your door!!So, no traffic jams and other inconveniences to face during the period.
Good idea! Best way to avoid traffic issues is to have everything around.
Perfect name for a city that gets triple the population in season, just like we get here in Florida. There both tourist traps, that bring more negatives for a permanent residence, but a great place to visit.
I have lived in Florida for 2 1/2 years. Similar cons and pros. But for the retiree, Floripa has more advantages: no hurricanes being the most important. The other one are the people. The mixture here is kind of fun. You make friends in no time, while in Florida, people tend to gather within their own community.
FUNNY thing about both places;
Change ONE LETTER in the name you get ;
FLORI(D)A or you get FLORI(P)A
Come from FloriDa but much prefer FloriPa, 70% less
I bought an apt here and live on $600 usd a MONTH ; FOOD, GAS the car, taxes, gas for cooking, water bill.
YOU could NOT live in FLORIDA even if your were homeless for $600 a month
Problem with Brazil is there is not an efficient and high quality short term rentals marketplace with guarantees and safe payment. Airbnb is a total rip-off. I can stay in an amazing place in Germany, France or Japan for the same price as Florianopolis or Sao Paulo. Meanwhile for half the price of Florianopolis/Sao Paulo, I can stay in an amazing place in like Bangkok or other countries. For 1/4th the price I can stay in an amazing price in Indonesia or smaller cities in Thailand. Since rent is my largest cost, it sadly just doesn't even make sense to try 3 months in Brazil. It's price inefficient. I literally just sat here and spent 2-3 hours researching this. And the place in Germany? I'm actually going there in 2 weeks, contract already digitally signed. Tokyo? I already stayed 3 months with the short term accomodations company a few months ago. Very high class but economical.
" I can stay in an amazing place in Germany, France, or Japan for the same price as Florianopolis" That is absolutely not true. And I say that as a Brazilian who lives in Europe for almost a decade. For the price you pay for a 4-star hotel in Florianopolis you would not even stay in Kreuzberg.
@ the_expat: I have no idea where you got your pricing ideas from... This might be the case, when you're renting off-season and freeze your ass off in a unheard 1bedroom apt. , and compare it to high season in Berlin... U should compare apples to apples.
Please tell me more about those amazing places in Germany which are cheaper than in Brazil. As a German i really would like to know. I camped at Königssee and Garmisch Partenkirchen an payed 31,50 Euros each night, just for a little Place of grass, where I can put my tent 😂 For these prices I had amazing Air BnBs in Sp, Salvador or na Ilha Grande. In Rio my girlfriend and I had 5 Nights in an 3star Hotel for just 180 Euros. Compare that with the Campingplatz where I payed 31,50 por Night. Na minha opinião Alemanha é estupidamente caro. E a situação está piorando a cada dia.
No one commenting here seems to understand that your choice of city should be built around your preferences. I was in Floripa in May, and we are now in November. I am willing to bet more money than most people have access to that there hasn't been a significant change in the city during the past 6 months. Plus, I still have several friends that continue to live in Santa Catarina. Floripa is a good city if you like surfing and hiking. If you want to live in a metropolis with access to all kinds of urban resources, then it's definitely not the place for you. Crime: it's very rare for someone to pull a weapon on you unless you are doing something reckless, such a poking your nose where it doesn't belong downtown late at night. On the other hand, pickpocketing and breaking into cars can be a concern, most especially during the summer months with the influx of tourists. Cost of living: aside from housing, you will not find a major difference in the price of things such as food, unless you don't know how to shop around. If you only go to the most expensive store in town, then yes of course you are going to pay an arm and a leg. That's no difference than solely going to Whole Foods in the USA, rather than shopping at Walmart! So don't say everything in Floripa is double the price simply because you are too lazy to go another 5 kilometers to a less expensive store. Weather: Some people actually like cooler weather. I hated being in Willemstad when I could not take a 10 minute walk at 8 in the morning without sweating bullets. Floripa is for a certain kind of person; it's not for everyone.
All the Brazilians when I was there told me that it was cold there and more expensive than any other city in Brazil except for Rio or Sao Paulo and the people were very cold as well but that it was safe
By cold you mean unfriendly? Well, I have some news for you, it's the same in the US and UK.
weather is ''cool'' not cold, lows in the 50f range but summer highs in the 80's BUT the ocean stays COLD all year, a deal killed for me
@@DonnieChoiI thought it was common knowledge that Americans and Brits weren’t known to be friendly
Great video!
I love Floripa.
Vitória, ES has one of the best HDI in Brazil, one of the best places to open a business, raise a family, 2nd best healthy people in the country, is super organized and much cheaper than Santa Catarina. It's a beautiful place full of things to do outdoor and yet you don't see Capixabas trying to bring down other places in order to make ourselves look better. 🤦
But Vitória is also more violent...
Favelizaçao expandindo na ilha. A ocupaçao desordenada nos morros parece nao preocupar ninguem. Ja vi esse filme antes, nasci e cresci no Rio. Infelizmente Floripa caminha a passos largos para virar Rio.
Florianópolis tem urbanização dos morros por conta da geografia, há séculos ocupam os morros. Não é apenas um processo de exclusão social que levou pessoas aos morros, como foi no Rio. Não tem nada a ver uma coisa com a outra, obviamente existem "favelas" em Floripa, mas nem todo morro ocupado é favela ao estilo Rio, e a ocupação não é desordenada em sua maior parte, os morros tem esgoto, luz, agua, internet e CEP e TERRENOS. Não existe comunidades controladas por poderes paralelos (facções, etc).
Bem isso. Tá ensaiando pra virar RJ. Mas tds prefere repetir o mantra 'ilha da magia'. De mágico só se for os brownies de cogumelo que vendem na praia.
@@triviachanel ahahahahh, meu deus, o pessoal que vive do turismo realmente força, mas amigo, estamos aqui pra contar a verdade, sei que não vai gostar. As pessoas subiram os morros há séculos pq não há terrenos, e é de estragar a vista cheiooooooooooooo de favela, de prédios sujos, sem calçadas, em bairros como cacupé e cheio de gangue, tem um morro tomado de favela, que a origem atrás do presídio é de pessoas que por vergonha ficaram na ilha depois de cumprir pena, aquilo é horrível de ver, estar, sentir. cidadezinha que perdeu seu nome e foi bombardeada, se chama floriano + polis, carrega no nome sua vergonha de ser derrotada.
Hey, in the next few weeks/months up until the 14th of October, I have time to travel. I would love to visit Brazil, landing in Sao Paulo, visiting Rio, and traveling down to Florianopolis. I am 20, so I am on a budget. I want to party and go surfing and stuff, so not really much sightseeing. Do you guys think the weather conditions will be good enough? I really want to see Rio and Florianopolis because of the backpacking community and the surfing, but looking at weather reports, it seems like the water could be quite chilly. The last thing I want is to have to wear wetsuits or trousers outside.
Should I look for flights to Colombia, Panama, Costa Rica, or other Latin American countries, or even the north of Brazil, or do you think central and southern Brazil in October is equally as good?
P.S.: I have some backpacking experience from traveling Southeast Asia. I know Brazil is a bit pricier. I am traveling alone, and my timeframe is around the 25th of August to the 14th of October. So I guess Florianopolis in October, Rio and Sao Paulo and some other cities in late August and September. I am german btw. and great video.
In Florianopolis, there is a huge difference of temperature between the beaches in the south of the island (cold) and in the north of the island (warm). In the north likely you will not need wetsuits, but in the south, better take it. The best waves, however, are in the south... If you like surfing, try UBATUBA in Sao Paulo. Nice waves, warm water, and SO MANY beaches that you will never get bored.
@@the_expat NOT CORRECT, the island of Florianopolis has the SAME temperatures on ALL of the islands beaches. COLD.
You will need a wetsuit most or all of the year unless you are from a colder Argentina, then it seems warmer here to them
Maybe you meant to say the south water is COLD but in the NORTH (of Brasil) the water is warm, that is correct.
If you want to check out Brasil the warmest time is from DEC to March UNLESS you go to the north of Brasil.
Cities like RECIFE, JOAO PESSOA, FORTALEZA are warm or hot all year so if you come in OCT, go to the north of Brasil
@@InMyBrz NOT TRUE. Beaches in the north like Canasvieiras and Jurere are WAY warmer than beaches in the south like Joaquina. Why are you spreading those non-sense? Probably you never have been in Florianopolis.
@@the_expat I LIVE HERE STUPID ! GO F'' YOURSELF
As a Brazilian I don't think it is a good idea to attack other areas in the country to promote a city.
Just my opinion.
Comparison and contrast is the basis for a video titled 'The Best Place To Live In Brazil', no?. "Attack" is your pejorative term and demonstrates your personal insecurity which coincidently is a problem in most cultures with many insecure, nationalistic people. Citizens who are too insecure to admit the problems their country, state, city or region. This is definitely a problem in Brazilian culture IMO (America as well).
Brazilians, especially their musical artists constantly brag about how wonderful their country is. In my experience after >33 years in this country people who have not traveled much or never traveled and have no personal basis to compare themselves with other countries still do.
Akin to claiming German chocolate cake is the best cake when ignorant of all other cakes.
I agree
I didn’t see any attack. But Floripa is not the best city. Culture is a problem. I must go to São Paulo from time to time to get some. And Floripa has attracted the wealthy, the hard workers, and parasites, being the last in great numbers, and are transforming the life here. It has been a paradise, but it’s no longer like that. You must have a high income to enjoy it. Otherwise your life is hell. High rent, long commute, and low wages.
I lived in Floripa for 3 months in 2024. My cost of living with accommodation 2 000 a month. I didnot spend or go out much.
USD?
YOU GOT ROBBED gringo
WRONG ... YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ! I LIVE HERE, YOU DON'T
Mass transit in Floripa is the best in Brasil for all of the island.
Talking about Jurere, Canasvieiras, Ingleses, you have TICEN downtown direct to TICAN Canasvieiras, then many buses to Ingleses and RioVermilho, Barra de Lagoa etc.
You can go from TICEN downtown to Campeche easily too. I'd rather take the bus from the north island to downtown because it's a lot easier than driving
Most of the locals live in the NORTH ISLAND
Up here mostly is annual rentals. Can rent a 2br apto for r$2000 or less a month
Canasvieiras is another story, it is a tourist town from Dec to April, very expensive aptos r$300-600 per DAY.
OFF season there you can rent furnished month to monty for about r$1200 a month because the town is empty of tourists, a ghost town except for the locals
ONE big thing too is that a LOT of people on the island speak English, from grocery store cashiers to owners of small businesses. MANY MORE than what I found in the north ; Recife and Joao Pessoa where it was just about impossible to meet people who spoke english.
BIGGEST NEGATIVE is the COLD WEATHER from June to October with a lot of rain and storms. That makes the beaches unavailable
TAXES to register a 15 year old FIAT here are crazy, costs me about r$800 a year, 3x other places in Brasil.
SAFETY - there is a large police presence here
Near Canasvieiras there is a PRF police academy where police come for training all year. So in the town you always have street cops and cops going to school, is very safe.
STOP SPREADING A BUNCH OF BULLSHYT
The people who work for city hall do comments like this. Canasvieiras has a sao paulo gang called PCC, inside papaquara community even with "police" as it was said. Who lives from tourism make this kind of text.
Fireeee I want to live here
Very good .I agree with you.
AWESOME!
Very overhyped, and getting more expensive and crowded each year. Ps: I live in Florianópolis since 1972, and already lived abroad in UK.
I’ve been in Florida for 34 years. I’m pretty sure everything here has become way more expensive then in Brazil over this time.
How is santos, sao paulo for cost of living and life?😮
Hi I live in Jurere… and I don’t think Florianopolis is what YOU are saying! I live in Los Angeles for 25 years so I know USA very well!
It’s a lot of things I don’t like about Florianopolis…. So You are making sounds like nicer than the reality!
1st - I never said Florianópolis is perfect. What I said it is way better than many American cities. 2nd - You said that I make it sound nicer than reality, but everything I said is based on reality.
@@the_expat well, I have a different opinion about Florianopolis! It’s not Cheap to live here! And as a person that travels all over the world…. I have a lot to complain about living in Florianopolis!
it’s bit cheap?
sounds like rent and restaurants/food is cheap no?
what makes the place nit cheap?
im curious about the beaches and water temps.
@@coneryj If you come with dollars, you’ll be fine-unless you’re a cheapskate. Just be prepared: the water is freezing cold all year round.
Where is this 62 reals 2 person meal? I'd love to go there.
Ilha Formosa - Restaurante, Pastelaria e Petiscaria, Lagoa da Conceicao. Enjoy!
PLENTY in Ingleses and Canasvieieras
@@the_expat I find it hard that you can find nowadays a 62 reals e person meal on lagoa da Conceição. Very few spots in the island you'll find anything below 100.
Oi pessoal! Austriaco aqui planejando mudar na barra da lagoa em 3 anos com a minha marida. Eu quer so aproveitar uma vida na praia, surfear com gente legal, fumar pouco maconha e as vezes ir por um tripo de cogomelos nas dunas pra conectar me com a natureza, morar num appartamento de 50 m2 barato ... eu nao preciso muito, so frutas, legumes, agua, vino, um branca de surf e amor Com cuantos reiais vcs pesam eu posso sobreviver la por mes? To economisando muito forte pra afordar de sair da fria aqui ... um abrazao pras suas respuestas!
Fique no seu país; aqui já temos gente lisa suficiente.
Hi give me your contact
Hey how can I rent that house for a month?
What about belo horizonte and santos?😮
If you don't mind things like terrible mobility, lack of respect for laws (a common Brazilian trait, I suppose), all around poor quality of service, disrespectful beachgoers with their loud music and marijuana, growing number of homeless, drug-trafficking hotspots etc., then welcome to the Isle of Magic! P.S. before any whining, I'm Brazilian, born on said island. P.S. 850 for monthly rent? In a favela, maybe.
Yes, I am a trully person also, like you, and that s the true. ShitHol3 close to the beach. It was good, 30 years ago.
Interesting video. Thanks so much!
So what’s minimum wages??
r$2500 for 6 days 10 hours per day, such as working in a grocery store
On the island it's USD 300/month for 6 days per week including Sundays. That won't pay rent in a poor neighborhood.
@@ursulachirin1095 NO IT ISN'T, people working in Ingleses at KOCH grocery work 6 days a week and make r$2500 or $455 US dollars
You can rent a furnished apto off season or yearly for r$1200 all day, that is $220 usd
@@InMyBrz Não, eles não ganham isso. Onde você ouviu isso? Nunca tirariam 2500 por semana no mercado. Talvez no mes e olhe la.
@@dce3190 PER MEZ 2500
I recently requested this! You are fabulous.
whats going on Eric, remember me?
Olá, bom vídeo de Floripa, eu moro em Cuiabá, MT aqui fica em 7° capital melhor pra viver, Floripa em 4°, também é a 3° em segurança, atrás só da capital federal e Floripa, só que é bem quente e pequena tem 1 milhão de pessoas na região metropolitana inteira com as cidades do entorno, na cidade 640 mil, saindo da cidade tem parque nacional, termais, resort, nobres, primavera do leste, com cavernas, lagoas azuis Pantanal...eu queria te falar isso porquê o único turismo que tem aqui é no Pantanal direto o aeroporto é internacional, a cidade histórica, todos esses locais natureza perfeita é muito pouco explorado e aposto que o governador tá louco pra aumentar turismo aqui.
Eu citei só perto da capital mas o estado inteiro é enorme e tem várias coisas como canyons com água azul cipó e jatobá.
Excelente comentário! Talvez falaremos de Cuiabá em um vídeo futuro. Obrigado!
Tem Uber?
Sim, embora em geral os motoristas somente aceitam viagens mais longas, de um bairro para outro. Dentro do mesmo bairro, muitos rejeitam.
love brasil
Very interesting video, thank you for taking the time to produce it. Two pieces of constructive feedback from me:
1) Comparing only murder rates to justify if a place is 'safe' or not is not sufficient. As a tourist, the thing I am at risk of is violent crime and muggings, not murders which are usually targeted. Comparing the Violent Crime and Overall Crime rates would be a more relevant stat.
2) The English language of the narrator is pretty poor, some mistranslated words like 'public organ' (no idea what this is even trying to say), and also lots of incorrectly pronounced words (such as 'awed', and pretty much every word ending in -ed of which there are a lot). It someone detracted from the content for me unfortunately which is a shame, it might be better to get this re-narrated by someone with a higher level of spoken English.
Thanks again :)
Curitiba airport has no flights to Europe
Good video..but why compare everything to American cities..let's hear about Brazil on its own
Thanks! We compare just to give an idea of the cost of living :)
Shhh. Dont tell anyone. They'll come in by the thousands hiking up prices.
You cannot get a mansion by the sea for $1650 stop talking shit. Show me a listing please cause I’ll rent it tomorrow if so
yes, you can. Im brazilian.
@@gasperdread in florianopolis? In which area? No doubt it will be an area that isn’t desirable or the house itself will be a dump.
Please elaborate exactly where you can and provide evidence.
@@gasperdread and because your Brazilian that doesn’t mean you can be wrong?? lol do you live in florianopolis? Show me the mansion you are renting for $1500
Of course you can - and I am Brazilian.
@@the_expat provide one example, just one example of . And not in some favela or some dump that no one wants to stay in, a nice mansion, on the beach on florianopolis island. I’ll wait
America é um continente, não um país.
América é um continente e um país, assim como manga é uma fruta e uma parte de uma camisa.
@@the_expat É um país onde? Não no Brasil. Eu disse isso pq sou brasileiro. ;)
Brazilians always pronounced the "Ed" separate.. its all together.. NOT Cook-ED... cooked
Thanks for the advice!
It’s “immigrants who gentrify”, NOT expats
How is the weather right now? Says cloudy everyday on the forecast
It rains more than 80% of the year, and it gets cold with chilly winds. The weather is the best in the Northeast, and it’s cheaper.
Yes all go there and drives up prices 😂
VERY GOOD VIDEO!!THANK YOU 👏👏
*_Que coisa triste e feia ter q falar mal do Rio p tentar chegar ao número de turistas. Graças a Deus agente não precisa disso, continuamos a ganhar todos os prêmios internacionais de turismo e mais feio é esse sotoque falando a língua inglesa, mt dura e um paliteiro de prédios com areia parecendo um cimento q dá p andar de skate_*
The young Trump video clip made me laugh out loud
Flat land, all city stuff, if beaches don't do it for you nothing to do. The same Brazilian justice system. I have lived in Brazil since 92, nao gosto. Women love all the city crap and Brazilian men as well. For American men >35 who like nature and tranquility not a good long-term option.
This narrator is the first Brazilian I have ever heard who has a strong accent. In my experience, Brazilians speak English accent-free.
Lel never heard a brazilian speak accent free english unless they where raised abroad. But my experiences are from the North East, not the South. Either way a great people plagued by socialist incompetence.
Brazilians speak English accent-free? What are you smoking?
@@xmaniac99 They for sure do not speak English accent-free, this Mark is hitting the c pipe.
o vira latismo desse video é impressionante
Nada a ver. Esse canal traz informações para pessoas de fora. Eu tenho uma amiga americana que quer aposentar no Brasil. Esse tipo de vídeos ajuda bastante para ela ter mais informações.
é isso mesmo, para ter visualização, prefiro ver perfil que bota prótese capilar, que a alegria é verdadeira
FUNNY thing about both places;
Change ONE LETTER in the name you get ;
FLORI(D)A or you get FLORI(P)A
Come from FloriDa but much prefer FloriPa, 70% less
I bought an apt here and live on $600 usd a MONTH ; FOOD, GAS the car, taxes, gas for cooking, water bill.
YOU could NOT live in FLORIDA even if your were homeless for $600 a month
Despite of the location in Latin America!!!??? Compared to a first world country!!!????
I’m sorry, starting a video like this proves how much you don’t know about “South America”, specifically Brazil. Please, I hope you don’t get me wrong but, it sounds racially offensive right in the first words of the video. I recommend you find a better and nicer way to specify some world class places.
Also you should search about the term “Latin America” and how it propagated to the world. It can be also considered racial discrimination in some locations in the Earth. Disappointing….
"his proves how much you don’t know about “South America”, specifically Brazil. " I am literally Brazilian.
I hate it, it has a nightmare public transport system, it s an island made to be empty to get full on summer. They are lazy people, they have crime, gang from SP and regional gang, and they dont allow to the crime be posted on news. I really know this place, and youtube knows I hate this island and always present me content about this sh t hol e. They dont make sidewalks to difficult people walking everywhere. Canasvieiras is a crime spot, even with a police formation school on it. It s a shame. There are some beachs, and the traffic will put you in anger, fast.
"youtube knows I hate this island and always present me content about this sh t hol e." XD XD XD
I moved from São Paulo to Florianópolis and let me tell you: it's hell. Over 60% of population is very poor and comes from other brazilian states.
There are hundreds if not thousands of people who have committed crimes elsewhere who are hiding here.
There is organized crime as in any other big brazilian city.
The number of people who haze ZERO respect for others is too big. Every single week there are news and posts about elderly people being beaten up in the streets - not by criminals but local population.
This is a great place if you love surfing and doing sports every single day but the most terrible choice for someone who wants to live a decent and safe life in a civilized place. And don't get me started on drug use.
This is not a dream island. It's a great place to vacation or spend a weekend.
Where would you recommend a young American man go, late 20s
@@YasukeNakamoto Vila Velha / Vitoria in Espiritu Santo state. This city has all the infrastructure, warmer water for all year-round bathing beaches, Co Working Places in Praia du Cantu district and a lot of other options for hiking green hills. It has also a passenger train that drives from Vitoria to Belo Horizonte. Vitoria / Vila Velha is basically the safer and more relaxed Rio with warmer water.
Please, don’t tell people our secret. Too many lazy and bandits are coming because of the advertising.
EXPAT =
You must have gone to a bad english school because your pronouncing all the -ED words incorrectly
VERY COMMON for Br schools to do this but if you go to a real qualified school, they don't teach this incorrect way to speak.
I am talking about words like STOPPED- you say STOPPID, or NAMED you say NAMEID, DREAMED, you say DREAMID, RELAXED you say RELAXID, BORED, you say BORID.
FROM DEC to APRIL a hotel will cost you up to r$500 a DAY or r$15,000 per MONTH.
OUT of season you can rent a furnished apto for r$1200 a MONTH
RICH Argentinos and Uruguayians have no problem spending r$300-500 a day in the summer
@@InMyBrz Tá fumando pedra mané. Pare de ser ridículo... Parece um bolsominion.
Fala serio garoto. Its hotter, has the worst tourists and no culture...
"no culture"? Seriously?
You need to desperately work on your English pronunciation, voice pitch, speed and inflections, it is very hard to follow your content delivery, and unless you seriously improve, you are definitely not going to succeed on RUclips. Good Luck !
His English is better than natives speakers guy. He's belingual what about you?
...said the call center tiger
@@carolinamendes961 Please avoid arguing about terminology: it’s "native speakers" or "native speaker individuals." Also, the correct term is "bilingual," not "belingual." Thank you!
@@NC-qc7wd thank you . Even native speakers make some mistakes.
@@NC-qc7wd speak and write in another idiom is not too simple. I speak Portuguese, Spanish, english and a little bit arabic
The first sentence of this video is bizarre. Although some people outside of Brazil, especially in the US, use the term 'Latin America,' I would say South America is a much technical term to be using. It's geography. .... Stop using such a racist term .. This term was created in the US to segrate the rest of americas from them US and Canada. .. Se você é brasileiro mesmo acho que vai entender o que estou dizendo.
go cry