SKYRIM in true color - The ART!
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Bob takes a look at why Skyrim Special Edition looks so dull and how you can change it.
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the "ugliest color" reminds me all of fallout 3
Maciej Miodunka e
Fallout 3 has a lot of brown and green etc, but it really feeds the atmosphere of the game imo.
Maciej Miodunka Its why I'm put off from fallout 4
Fallout 3 and 4 have a brownish/green color to them, while New Vegas has a sort of sepia tone that is much more appealing in my opinion.
Memelord I agree, the atmosphere of a post apocalyptic work is well suited to the color. but even there some splashes of color would make it feel more alive
I think pure Nordic stuff (steel armor/weapons;Nord armor/weapons;Stahlrim armor/weapons, some design elements of buildings, and the like) should definitely be desaturated and gray/brownish. However, Elven, Imperial, Orcish, Dwarven, anything else should definitely be vibrant, or at least noticeable.
Nordic stuff is supposedly based on vikings. Let's compare it.
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Obviously these images mostly represent the clothing of a richer part of viking society, but basically anyone whi had enough money would die their clothing.
EXACTLY! Expecially the Yarls and such should have had more colorful gear and such.
Before my computer melted- i turned skyrim into a super fantasy world with oversized trees and enb mods out the ass. It was gorgeous- it was my skyrim. My computer died valiantly.
R.I.P. Zac Lee's computer. It served him/her well.
East it happened suddenly but the signs were there, I just didn't want to see them.
My condolences. Rest in piece, Zac Lee's computer.
Zac Lee You should have acted. It was already here.
Your mod menu told of its return.
The choppiness was merely a delay 'til the time after the first few crashes, when the mods of Skyrim would fuck up the games framerate.
But no ,you didnt want to believe... Believe it would fail. And when the cpu temperature finally dawned.....it dawned in fire!
Did your computer take an arrow to the knee?
It wasn't an oversight. Have you SEEN Oblivion? It was a tonal choice. Skyrim has always been described in the lore as dead, lifeless, and harsh, apart from the Reach. You dont exactly get that feeling if everything is saturated like a kids show, or Oblivion. You said it yourself. *turns saturation up* "this looks so much more *lively*" That's the point. I will say though that "non-Skyrim" stuff like the Imperial armor needs to stand out.
But the problem is that it's an icy area, you don't apply brown to an icy area, you just turn down the saturation, but you keep the colour and contrast.
Just because an environment is harsh doesn’t mean the designers have to make all the colors super bland and uninteresting. Great designers know how to make environments give off that feeling without resorting to cheap tactics.
In that I agree. Still i think giving everything a green brownish tint was the wrong way to go.
I REALLY hope they don't follow this philosophy with Hammerfell. The fact it's deserts worries me.
Deserts can be varied in color and reflect sunlight in beautiful ways.
If they're going to take architectural inspiration from anywhere I hope they embrace the colorful historic Middle East.
Nothing stands out, not even the reach.
You look like a dark elf who has white skin and not red eyes
Bror Kvist lel.
Ahahaha
So basically *not* like a dark elf.
pwoper fish You N'wah
pwoper fish Elves aren't differnet in just the colors.
"brown is literally the ugliest color I can think of, it's the color of shit"
*looks at own's skin*
oh :(
Francisco Laprea well that got dark
by the looks of it the guy who made this video also hates his hair and eye colour
people also seem to forget the 'white' is beige. a light brown. but people forget that all humans are different shades of brown
That's how I like my coffee ;)
some things look great in brown,but when everythings is in it looks like puke and shit mixed together :) i love the brown colours of wood for example...theres not a bad colour...even red and bluye can be ugly if everything is in it
Something you can't deny Fallout 4 improved upon.
Yeah, of all the 3 things Fallout 4 improved upon was the colors.
***** You're right, they had too little.
Alex Ivanovic indeed, that and the character writing, particularly the companions and antagonists were far more interesting than Skyrim's.
world building and exploration felt the same to fallout 3
Kloiik I'd say fallout 4 gunplay was better than fallout 3 but worse than every other fallout game I've played. (f1, f2, ft & fNV)
Personally, I kinda like Skyrim's vanilla colors. Honestly, it confused me when I heard people complain about them.
John Bamber its too bland and dull in my opinion luckily enbs and weather mods fixed that issue
To each their own,mods are quite useful in such matters.
John Bamber same i liked it, all fantasy games have vibrant colours, Skyrim set itself away from and and made it feel kinda realistic if you get me? I dunno i just liked it
I used too as well. Then I realized how gorgeous Scandinavia is.
It is usually americans that complain about dull colours in games. Take Arcania Gothic for example. In this game you had an option to change colours from dull "european" to colorfull "american".
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ShoddyCast Thanks for the great video! This explains why the Witcher 3's world feels so alive. It's use of color is fantasitc. Each zone feels unique and alive.
ShoddyCast so does this u are taking the chanel?
ShoddyCast sorry I meant to say are u taking over the chanel or is there a team?
could this be the reason why most peopl play a stealth character their first run?
Also probably because sneaking is one of the safest playstyles.
Charging in as a warrior just seems dumb, you know.
It's also pretty dull. Without the sneak bonus for stealth attacks, characters have way too much health and the lackluster combat system in Skyrim isn't stimulating enough to make long fights enjoyable. I find it's pretty much impossible to have an enjoyable experience if you ignore the smiting needed to make your weapons kill things faster, and don't get me started on pure-magic playthroughs. Bullet spongey enemies is the worst kind of artificial difficulty in a game which decided to move away from RPG and into Action territory. Just look at Dishonored: top notch action and stealth experience, melee combat is actually really unforgiving and challenging despite it taking at best 4 good swings to take out an enemy.
DiE-lan Thankfully mods can easily fix that. I got a mod that makes all enemies actually use perks, and a mod that makes magic fully scalable, and now I'm being staggered, knocked away, paralyzed and one-shotted with expert spells all the time. Fuuuuun.
Also there's a mod that makes npcs craft stuff for you. Honed Metal it's called.
NPCs saying "What was that??111" with an arrow in their faces was enough reason to play stealthy
I tended to play a kind of hybrid style. My first Skyrim character, was Kajiit, I trained in smithing because I love crafting, but also in stealth, archery and two-hand weapons, because my style was to pick off as many enemies as I could from a distance, before wading in to deal with the rest, playing a kind of ambush warrior.
To be fair, caves are grey and brown because rocks and mud are grey and brown and there isnt much lighting in a cave to make greens that would be there be super bright.
To be fair, the caves in oblivion, even the modded ones had more color and lightning
Skyrim's filter is all over the fucking place, if it is to be cold and grey, do it right!
id be glad if skyrim had something like VIkings filter or something grey to show how fucking depressive and hopeless tamriel is atm
Yeah, the caves sorta make sense, but even the caves look a little dull. Caves can be damp and therefore a little glossy, or green from moss, or the rocks can have different colours. In skyrim though, all of the rocks are the same greyish brown.
RossDesu Not inherently, I've been in some pretty red-brown & bluish-grey caves in my day. Honestly, if World of Warcraft can make a cave dungeon like Sunken Temple & so many of their other dungeons pop with it's decade old graphics I think Bethesda can too
Dont get me wrong guys im not trying to defend Bethesda's choice of making everything grey. Im just saying this could be why
No problem
is that it could be better, but they had to rush it for the 11/11/11 release date, atleast special edition kinda fixed that, also there's mods for it like ELFX
I live in Ireland and its often overcast, colours look normal to me.
JonesIRL there is still colour though. Wood and stuff isn't just a dull grey
In skyrim however, once you go inside, where cloudiness has nothing to do with the lighting, the game still looks dull and ugly.
+Harry van de Sunweb (I make garbage videos) well, no. Any light pouring in from the windows will be lessened, so it'll still look dark.
Nah Ireland is literally always dark asf, apart from some days in summer.
Texas....Brown,dark brown,light brown,tan,burnt brown,did I miss a brown🤔Huummmm......😊
im brown..
Goddess Miranda.Cosgrove lmao
Goddess Miranda.Cosgrove same, Carly.
Same here. And he just went on and on about hating brown.
I personally find darker shades of skin colour more attractive.
I'm blue
I really like the normal skyrim color scheme. It may be dull, but that's how I imagine skyrim. A cold, dull, wasteland. It's meant to be dull on purpose.
Wasteland? Why a wasteland?
fervorRed It's supposed to be torn off by civil war and conflicts turning the lands into a cold, mercyless and sad landscape.
actually im agree with you
Just saying but cold and dull does not mean lacking colour. Just go to any place in the North of the world and see for yourself that there is a lot of colour although it's generally cloudy. The way skyrim looks here is more like England on a rainy, but then 100% of the time.
Freek De Jonghe I didn't mean that the cold makes it literally have less color. What I meant is that the lack of colors adds to theme of it being a cold, dull, desolate wasteland. It's a place ravaged by war. The bright colors takes away from these themes. At least that's my opinion.
It's a northern wasteland in a civilization not advanced enough to generate their own power. Everything being dark and dingey makes sense.
Yes, but why aren't there pops of color? It's a powerful tool to bring your attention to something important but is severely muted in-game. Like the example of the Imperial soldiers mentioned. Even fire and spells are muted.
AKlover Completly agree I dobt like Medieval games with all shiny and bright colors.
Also with survival post apocaliptic games its supposed to be a grimdark universe with dangers and tragedy not a Disney cartoon.
I personally loved skyrim qnd even sometimes thouth it neeeded more darkness and opacity in its colors.
"Dark and dingey" =/= everything being brown as fuck. Hell, FALLOUT has more color than Skyrim does
ShoddyCast "pops" of color ruin the grimdark settimg it isnt more about the hard times in skyrim lived by both rebels and imperials blood and use worns down the colors the constant conld ruins its fabrics.
This is more of a personal opinion but I don't want half or more of the imperial army look like some rich pretorians straight out of their capital.
As I live in quite a northern country - Latvia, I can say that these colours are natural to me, because in atumn and early spring, everything is gray and brown, there is little colour. That being said, in late spring and summer, there is overwhelming lush green, but not when it rains, then it all goes much more gray.
Hey, trust me, I'm with you 100%.
I actually can't play Skyrim without color, lighting, and correction mods because it gives me a headache to see the same dull color everywhere I go.
To be honest, I like how everything blends together, it makes it look more realistic. Everything is made from stones, wood and metal and those things rarely have exciting colors. The only place that could offer more freedom for colors is the flora and fauna of skyrim, and maybe some of the clothing as the video mentions(but not the metalic armor, unless it has pieces of cloth or leather fitted to it). Some of the magical creatures like sprigans and atronaches could have more vibrant coloring(magic in general could have more lively and vibrant effects) and the plants could have more colorful petals. Anything else just seems right in a northern tundra environment and a medieval civilization. I like to say that the people of skyrim are like their land and I can't imagine them going out of their way to color and accesorise their equipment more than neccesary. Also, the fact that magic, which is something that the creator has absolute freedom over, looks so mundane adds to the realism of it. It's just another thing that exists on the world. The first time I realised that the game does indeed look too dark was when my father saw me playing for the first time and told me and by that point I had seen most main game quests and all ther dlcs and it never looked ugly or weird to me. Now I use a realistic lighting mod and I can't see jack anyway.
More realistic? Have you never seen gold? Silver? A living forest or growing crops? There is this weird conviction that muted colours are more realistic, but they aren't. The colors in reality can, and often are, vibrant. Just as often as they are dull.
I'm not talking about Witcher 3 Toussaint levels of vibrance, because while unspeakably beautiful, it's largely off to the other color extreme, but... Skyrim colours do NOT look realistic. They look washed out.
It's not realistic. It's just supporting your pre-conceptions about the medieval/ancient world, upon which most of fantasy worlds are based on.
If anything our current world of gray giant blocks of flats, and polluted envoirment.
Everything is made of wood and stone you say. Have you heard about, I don't know... A Paint? Or a Dye? Because people from the past did.
Look up how people with simmular level of technology actually dressed and decorated buildings . The would be plastered with color as much as it was possible. And I could understand you r argument with the indegenous population of skyrim, but th y are based on vikings, and are supposed to be poor, but ther are also many Noibles people among them. And Viking noble would be saturated with color, like this one: s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/45/87/65/458765d421f7aca362d197ddae52ab3c.jpg
I said that flora could stand to have more vibrant colours. Gold and silver are in the game, although I agree that they apear more washed-out than they probably should be.
Paints and dyes are what I had in mind when I said that armor should only have vibrant colors if it is fitted with cloth or leather. I guess you could also use it on wood, although I added that I don't think the people of skyrim would go that far out of the way in making their equipment unless there's a reason.
The reason would be: it makes living more pleasant. I could understand regular people having undyed houses and stuff (through it still differs from culture to culture, historically), but there is no way nobles would have dark and colourless halls. Hell, metal armors could be dyed too. The main reason we think of these things as undyed is because the dye didn't last to out times.
I agree!
Skyrim needs more color
Anton Engström Didnt they fix this in ESO?
Don't rightly know actually, You ddo get to color your gear... But you don't notice the good stuff when almost everything is shit
ESO?
The Average Pro Elder Scrolls online, the game! I know it was made by a different studio, but they are all apart of the same basic company.
Then mod it
I've always felt like the colors in Skyrim were ment to evoke a "cold" feeling. Everything is sort of cloudy and chilly. I've noticed that this feeling is present even when people make mods for tropical skyrim and such, it still feels cold somehow. I'm sure this is intentional. And it's present in the environment as well, unless you go to Falkreath, where everything looks just a little warmer.
Alexander Beuchat Yeah Skyrim is meant to be the northern region, the UK is always that bland and grey looking cus we're in the north of the world. The lush colours should be reserved for the southern warmer regions.
When I first started playing Skyrim, I loved it, but also felt that there was something dead about it visually. I put it down to that I was comparing the dreary snowy environment with oblivion's much more spring-like environment. Didn't think much more of it. This video made it a lot more clear. However, there should be some gritty realism to it. I'm wary of having it turn into world of war craft or something where all the lights are exploding in your face and everything on screen is demanding your attention. I tend often not to like using enchanted equipment in Skyrim because of the shimmer. Though that varies.
I like the subtlety of the world; games where the colours are highly contrasted often look too contrasted, vivid colours in fantasy games take away some of the immersion. It's a medieval world where most colours are going to be drab, that's just realism
so true
NO! What makes you think that medieval world was dark? It was probbably more colorfull than nowadays, destoryed by pollution, world.
The same with architecture. Walk into the well preserved Gothic Cathedral and you will be blasted by brightly colored walls with golden finish.
Henry Kincaid I sorry but you could not be more wrong people love colour and all ways have as such they would have painted everything they could expshaly a Lords home it's just a shame the paint did not last
That is actually very incorrect. Medieval was not all dark and brown. Many thing, particularly clothing, were actually very brightly colored.
jozef kalinowski perhaps I should clarify; the more upper class areas of Skyrim such as windhelm, solitude, and whiterun should have more colour. The richer the area, the more colour would have been present; dyes and paint (especially in Scandinavian areas such as what Skyrim is based on) were expensive; too expensive for the general (very poor) populace. Skyrim is a particularly poor area as you can generally tell when walking around (in fact the game makes it appear like they are richer for the sake of more interesting architecture); the majority of the population are most likely farmers and realistically they would not have much money at all. Generally, the easiest dyes to find would have been blue (though not a particularly light blue) and red, however; much like in real life, red was regulated for use by a superior body (in Skyrim it is of course the Empire). Another thing to consider is the situation the world is in; Skyrim is at war, and why'll the game generally doesn't do a good job of showing what that does to an area (it somewhat half asses it), the Witcher 3 does; the area of Velen is a good construction of what happens to a poor area when two large armies decide to fight over it. The ground becomes unsettled and the water levels change (leading to some species of trees struggling to survive), mud and dirt starts to coat everything (including people and buildings), and people become even poorer due to a war that is distrusting trade. I'll clarify again, these conditions shouldn't really be affecting the larger cities, but the rest of the world will be affected by this. Outside of realism, the current trend for games is for them to behave more realistically; high fantasy is not popular and generally looks dated unless sprinkled with occasional, brutal realism. A more realistic world is more immersive, Bethesda is going for immersion, and therefore a more realistic world would be more appropriate.
Now, would I continue with the current art direction? No. If any of you have played Fallout 4 with a foliage/forestation mod (trees and plants), I would rather take this art style of deep foliage and tree cover, and put it into a world with areas which have the more war torn aesthetic from Witcher 3's Velen. In terms of architecture, I would rather the buildings have their original colouring behind a layer of grime, as opposed to the browner colours and textures that are used in Skyrim. I would also like to see significantly darker knight skies and the use of torches become a more important feature. Having said all this, I do not want the alternative that was presented in this video; a highly contrasted and more vivid world only makes sense if the world calls for it, and there is not an area in Tamriel that would call for it besides the Summerset Isles.
Thought this was a mod video, ended up being a very interesting discussion on Skyrim's color palette. Nice work!
The game follows on of my most hated trope: muddy middle ages.
This problem with color can be found in so many movies and games, following the misconception, that middle ages *were* dull and colorless. But when looking at historical sources, we can fairly assume that it was even more colorful than today.
Wow I had never seen the concept art before. Makes me very sad that this didn't make it to the final version.
This is pretty much the exact reason that ENB and Reshade exist. It's not just a saturation issue, it's a lighting issue with the original game engine, which still hadn't been fully fixed. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I mod Skyrim.
I could have not said it better. Cheers fellow modder!
is ENB some kind of a mod?
4:23 is that bearded dude flipping me off?!
Wait, did they change the color in Skyrim special edition?
I believe they added more shadow effects and contrast but saturation is the same. And obviously updated textures which are still downgraded from PC mods.
I think you are just being waaay too harsh to them... yes, controlled and flat concept art can be as vivid and colorful as you like, but you need to understand the limitations and problems of rendering, where it would be quite hard to make a controlled color and light mixture in such a vast game. Even with this "toned down" color palette there are still a lot of graphical artifact.
Woah. When was I being harsh?
I think D3 was talking to ShoddyCast. Maybe. D3? You want to clear this up?
2 words
Witcher Three (3)
it looks like a fucking vibrant rainbow and still looks great and appeals
....but...this is not what the fucking devs said it would be they ripped us with their lie
even Ubisoft dose a better lie
I love the dark saturated weathered look of Skyrim. That's how it's supposed to look,but to each his own.
Yes, the colours are so fucking bland. That was a huge approvement with Falout 4. all bethesdas games in the fallout anf Elder Scrolls series were bland (except Oblivion)
I agree that Oblivion is probably the only Elder Scrolls game that isn't bland.
The real problem is that skyrim so too bland. Its not realistic anymore.
Especially if you consider that in the medival period aristrocrats prefered strong colors, like a vibrant red. In Skyrim everyone looks in terms of the colour of the clothes exactly the same. In terms of Buildings: the colours are off, real wood doesn't look like that and also in the medival period many Biuldings were constructed with a combination of wood and loam, after the loam hardens the surface is nearly white. Loam was used because it was a cheap raw material that was also easy to use.
FalloutDaily 13
well, oblivion was knd of blueish most of the time, and 60% of the time that did not looked like that was another extreme colour like dark green or dark brown
I know this is a 10 month old comment but ehh. Fallout is suppose to look that, artistically the world to be seen as dead and lifeless so a dull color is used to give a somber tone when exploring. Now alittle bit of color doesn't hurt because it'll take you off guard and show you that there's life in all this dead; ie: Oasis in F3 and the Strip in FNV.
Great video as always Bob!
Gotta love the irony, where Witcher 3 is supposed to be the dark fantasy game out of the two, and yet it is so much more colorful, especially the 2nd dlc. But hey, there are these things called mods, so there's that. But yeah, visually, when compared to Oblivion, Skyrim seems so grey and dull, lifeless. Especially when it comes to armor colors - the best example, compare Dwarven, Glass and Elven armors. Glass (being a bloody neon sign) stands out from miles away.
THANK YOU ! This is the exact reason I never got to appreciate Skyrim while I finished both Oblivion Multiple times with always the same enthusiasm.
lmao the guy behind him at 6:07 is just casually smelling his hair.
I always found the color scheme in Skyrim works with the overall wintery environment. Admittedly the Elven armors and such should look brighter and more like something made somewhere else. Brighter colors do look radiant, but they take away the bleak vibe and overall realism away from the typical saturation found in traditional fantasy genres.
i guess bethesda still hadn't learned from fo3. They did really well in this regard with fo4
On the armour colours part I feel you're completely right, not so much on the environment though, caves could use a little bit more work, be a bit more limestone-y, but the outside colours fit the harsh cold land of Skyrim, looks pretty similar to the north of Sweden where I live. It's a little bit more colourful here, mostly in the summer. But Skyrim is even further to the north than where I live, they have year-long snow in the most northern parts. The environmental colours just make sense and fit the setting extremely well.
You have a real beef with Skyrim. Why is that, did someone steak your sweet roll?
I think it might be because I've gotten used to it, but I really don't mind the sameness of it all. That's not to say I don't appreciate some nice, vibrant colors, it's just that it feels like an important part of the Skyrim experience.
my skyrim is modded to a point where is verry bright and colorfull "thank god that we have the mod comunity "
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I think hes missing the point of the fact that Skyrim is supposed to look mostly desolate. I mean its a land of permafrost after all, the art teams probably changed the color of all the items to better suit the overall aesthetic that the game was going for. You're not supposed to look at the side of a stoic snowy mountain and expect fairies to fly around a corner, you're supposed to look at it and see an Ice wraith or a troll. While I do think there may have been a better way to put the aesthetic into the game, to simply quintuple the saturation of the game is to change the feel of the game entirely and that's not setting the right environment for a land in turmoil.
Yeah, it was one of the reasons I was very dissapointed in Skyrim, because it was colorless.
eso has better colors
That was great. I always felt something was odd about Skyrim but never could get my hands on what exactly it was.
This is gonna make the immersion so much better
Colours in skyrim supposed to be that way because of its climate. If you ever been in some snowy, cool arias of the world everything looks just like in skyrim (especially near arctic circle). Besides if every thing was so colourful ,bright and warm i would thing that i'm in Italy or California and not in Scandinavia or Alaska...
I totally agree and even people are saying "Skyrim is supposed to be like that" then that's your opinion and that's ok. Before Skyrim, the game, I always imagined Skyrim as blue and icy rather then brown and full of dirt. And even if Skyrim is supposed to be like that the armor sets of the different races should then even stand out more rather then blend in.
omg he's so attractive
THANK YOU
you speak words I honestly felt I was alone in. I feel the same way with Fallout 4 as well, everything feels bleached, even the light from the sky.
This is why I love my texture mods, my ReShades, and ENB. It makes things feel more life like, I feel more immersed in my adventure.
Every game I play I love to turn down the brightness just right to avoid this bleached look, which stuns me that Fallout 4 has no brightness adjustments.
I find Pink uglier but thats me
Lord Dovahkiin you'll love pink when you finally lose your virginity.
Lord Dovahkiin, Hail.
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The savagness is on 10 in this comment section!!!
LegendKidd i mean, if you thinks its savage. I thought it was dumb
I've logged at least 1000 + hours into TES V: Skyrim, played it for years, and I've never noticed this issue, I've always identified the shapes really easy, identifying most things as they came into view, (I am red-green colorblind) but Id argue that the most vibrant colors in Skyrim are the spell, shouts, and enchantments. the perk screen is also beautiful.
Oblivion didn't have this problem. Oblivion's art style is timeless, such a beautiful game.
Weehoo 2 with such beautiful faces
skyrim is a cold and harsh place. aka why the colors are so dull. Cyrodiil on the other hand is a nice warm climate aka why the colors are so vibrant.
Seth Johnston but thats bullshit. Its not like when you come to norway suddenly everything desaturates. Colors are as vibrant as in a tropical place.
Oblivion's artstyle is completely ripped off Tolkien/generic fantasy which has been done to death hundreds of times. Skyrim on the other hand has a much more grounded and realistic art style that evokes a sense of dread, harshness, and the cold. Aesthetically, not much really compares. I can't remember the last time I've seen Viking/Celtic designs as a main focus in a video game.
yet all races are retextures of eachothers, and khajits look like frightened lions who fought in vietnam and are constantly having flashbacks.
not to mention orcs look like shrek too much.
no thanks if it's graphic wise id really just play skyrim.
I wish Skyrim was more snowy. Children making snowmen, riding dog sled through the snow, and beautiful snowy night. Snow makes everything so bright and vivid.
just pc masterrace and install ENB
Alex but he is the guy that declared the death of pc master race
I have never thought about that everything is brownish but now that you mention it, It is very noticeble.
Knowing you personally that you hate skyrim and only started playing it recently infuriates me because your opinion on the game is completely negative, however, this game and most bethesda games are darkish in contrast like skyrim is. When you're in a cave though its not supposed to be bright but I can see why it would look "ugly" just looking at it without any actual interest. BUT that said, video came out great. Keep it up lmao.
Have you guys ever visited for example northern Finland, Sweden or Norway? Our trees are bland like that; the green pines looks gray, our red houses are as washed out as the imperial armour, everything looks like it has some grayish hue over it. It's like this for most parts of the year. The only time it's more vibrant is in summer, which is just ~3 months of a year. It's only during this time that the colours are like when he edits it during the end.
id say the game just lacks balance, too much blandness and it's shit, too vibrant and it's blinding
There are some areas I can appreciate the de-saturated tones (the caves, for instance). However, for a lot of the items and growth and newer items within the world (wooden structures, clothing, etc) the saturation really does need to go up.
use project enb bro and you will have no problem with colors
thank me later (:
Alpha catz .... meow ENB looked way to difficult to install. never bothered. I usually go with one stop fixes.
This. Watching this sipping on some Bacardi 151.. Life right now feels chill. Great video my G. Very insightful and much appreciated is the time taken out to define, compare and contrast the terminology. Subbed!
Yeah, skyrim always looked bland. The concepts were so much better. In my opinion, bethesda made the *ugliest* game ever with fallout 3. I mean, I know it's old, but the lighting is HORRIBLE and the textures are GARBAGE.
To be honest, I never really had an issue with the colors. I kinda liked how everything looks dark. But I see your point.
Sure, paint dirt and stone in yellow instead of it's real dark brown and grey color; use bright colors in Scandinavia... which suddenly looks more like Spain or Portugal; and use shining colors for weapons and armor like in Warcraft, because like in Warcraft, people don't know that the minerals in which they are made come actually from the dark colors of the ground! xD
Worst subject ever, Shoddycast! :p
Shoddycast meant to tell ESO: "Don't create a real world, we don't like it!"
My answer to you... stop playing Fallout.
I think that the color in Skyrim have a reason , it's to give a depressed , sad and melancholic vibe to the world because Skyrim is supposed to be a cold harsh land and deadly not a beautiful place . In the original lore most of Skyrim is always covered in snow with just the Reach being green and productive
I never really paid attention to the coloring, I was more focused on being pissed and annoyed at the bad writing and boring gameplay.
I someone there?.... must be my imagination.
(sneak increased to 35)
ShadowmarkReturns Morrowind and Oblivion had worse gameplay than Skyrim, what are you talking about?
+Termite Dust "NI NI NI NI NI NI NI NI NI." "Hold on, let me try that one again." "BY AZURA BY AZURA BY AZURA!"
+Xigital Cough* they're both typical Chosen One adventures, that alone puts them on the same shitty ground. The only advantage Skyrim has is the spectacle of everything, and just like the VATS system in modern fallout, the game always seems to feel satisfying somehow. Oblivion actual drained me of any capacity to want to play the game. Skyrim made the innovation of bringing mods to consoles along with Fallout 4. Oblivion gave what felt like a cooky cutter RPG.
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@ShoddyCast
I found that by tweeking my Samsung 60" UHDTV settings it is possible to make everything (not just skyrim) look absolutely incredible. If you havn't tried changing your display settings on the display itself in addition to all the other things we do to try and improve the appearance, you should. Maybe you will find that your display doesn't have these settings, but it's most likely that they do.
Backlight 20/20 > 10/20 (blacker blacks at the cost of dimmer brights. )
Contrast 50/100 > 100>100 (more contrast?! personal preference+my hardware likes it.)
Brightness 100/100 > 44/100 (This is the sweet spot for my hardware+mods)
Sharpness 50/100 > 0/100 (simulates AA without dropping fps.)
Saturation 50/100 > 65/100 (Mmmm, colors)
Skyrim is bland before modding, this alone is a huge improvement and if your display has these settings it doesn't require anything more than a little experimentation to see what numbers you like best.
Vanilla Skyrim sucks. I don't believe there's a single element in vanilla Skyrim that I'd call "excellenet". Its story, pacing, UI, quests, cities - everything is mediocre. And so are the colors.
Or how I would say: Bethesdas Studio for rpgs is totally incompetent in regards of rpgs. (One thing that bothers me most is that they use the exact same old engine again and again and again. What is so damn hard to throw the old engine away and make a new?
Yes it is hard work to code a game engine but often it is easier to start from scratch...)
+MrMonado because it's not like valve hasn't been milking the source enigine for 12 years. Bethesda has been using the same engine for only 5 years, which is hardly comparable.
Slender Man yes valve has used the same engine many years, the big difference is they worked on the engine and made it better, they knew what they neeed to change. Bethedas programming team ob the other side...
It looks like they do not even bother to rewrite parts of the engine. Sometimes I have the Feeling Bethesdas idiology is : The consumer will buy our shit regardless of the Quality.
It's easy to say, that Skyrim was shitty in terms of many things, just because thanks to Bethesda's stance on modding and openness to it, we have so much more content, and usually very focused content. If the game was much harder to mod, and we weren't spoiled by everything added by those mods, we would most likely be pretty happy about it.
Yes, it is easier to create a city expansion, that is much more detailed, than the original one, when you don't have to work on ten more areas, don't have any other deadlines, you work on an established basis and don't get to shift up the planning just because just as you were finishing one more area has to be added for one more quest etc.
Even though I agree wholeheartedly, wjat about the score? It seems like the only well-made and competent thing made for the game
totally agree with you on how dull everything but the sky was. great video
Wow that's the most racist thing I've ever heard
Phii'shee the Khajiit a single tear rolled down my brown cheek
Phii'shee the Khajiit i literally sat there in shock. Im not brown but I cringed so hard.
How the frack did this become about race? 99.6% of people have brown hair and brown eyes so take a pill. Not wasting your money on tuition might be a good idea too.
??????? This is so dumb it hurts
Cecil it's too late. I'm organizing a match against shoddy casts racism.
As someone who played Skyrim before Oblivion colour is something that really struck me when I played oblivion for the first time. Despite the graphics being less detailed and less smooth, the overall vibrancy made it far more enjoyable to look at
i actually don't mind the desaturated colours. honestly, the colour schemes that get me are the ones found in Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. the colours are sickly shades of brown, grey, orange, green, and yellow
I kind of like the gray brown atmosphere but that saturation increase looks amazing.
The grays make sense to me. Vibrancy is a pretty modern idea when it comes to color. We correlate older times with darkened and dulled hues.
Saturation and contrast were the first thing I modded into Skyrim. Even if a bit unrealistic, it really made the scenery pop.
Now that I think about it, I thought that the colors in Skyrim were dull, so I installed Immersive Saturation on my game. Not only is is performance-friendly, it brightens the environment and everything! Still can't do anything to make armor colors stand out, though.
I've heard from somewhere a few years ago that this grayish tone in Skyrim is on purpose. That it serves to convey the feeling of coldness, sadnes, of how beaten up and broken the province is.
Ever been in Norway? the atmosphere up north looks almost exactly like Skyrim's. It's just perfect the way it is.
Even in the Netherlands things look more alive. And as I'm typing this the sky is literally a single off white colour, without any lines running through it whatsoever. Just a blank canvas, and jet everything is more colorful. Despite everything having a more whitish tint due to the sky almost always being cloudy I can still see many different colors. If I look outside I can see 4 different trees, all bare and stripped of leaves, but each one having a different colour, and definitely standing out from the red brick roof behind that.
In skyrim you don't even have such a distinction.
Everything outside my home is grey and brownish, with a whitish tan rather than a warm yellow grow, but there are so many small colourful things that it doesn't compare. If reality right outside my window is less dull than a fantasy world, than you gotta ask yourself if that fantasy world really is as good as you think in terms of design, rather than addictive gameplay. After all, the gameplay of skyrim beats the gameplay of reality a thousand times over.
This was a big problem for me while playing Skyrim. After the initial rush of fighting dragons and stuff wore out, I realised this world looks so bleak that I do not want to roam it anymore. Don't get me wrong: I get the idea that the situation is harsh and the world is in danger and whatnot...but that shouldn't mean we're playing a slightly coloured up black and white photo. The world isn't washed out. Medieval-level cultures had vibrant dyes, the wood had as much colour as it does now...
Look at Skellige in Witcher 3. Barring some obvious benefits of technology, Skellige looks so much more alive. The trees are green, the water is blue, or opaque... I'm not talking Toussaint levels of saturation, I'm not insane. Just... enough to make it look less like an old photo covered by a thin layer of dust.
I just boosted the color level on my tv and adjusted the contrast and brightness. Makes it look miles better.
Oh I agree with you Shoddy, What I think happened was the game artistes did their thing, followed the previous games styles and did their research on Norse culture and then someone said "but bright primary colors aren't awesome" because he just watched 300 or something, so they had to mute all the textures.
If you play Skyrim for a whole year with literally no colors whatsoever like I did then you will be astonished by how colorful everything is! But yes it is quite gray but that also adds to the dark and realistic atmosphere.
I really liked the more "realistic" and rough look of Skyrim in fact I fell in love with it. I can take it more seriously than colorful Oblivion. Although now I don't think that the lighting always worked, I think most people can relate to this :
Trying to get a good angle to look at your characters face without som areas being shadowed. Like it's pretty hard especially indoors.
To me, it's like when you draw a picture on toned paper rather than white. The colors can look more unified, but they also all have some of the paper's color showing through. It's a matter of preference.
It never bothered me while playing, but looking at it now you're totally right.
I just played Witcher 3's Blood and Wine which actually goes for the polar opposite look.
Everything is beautifully saturated and it just looks gorgeous.
The muted colors in Skyrim are supposed to make it look more "realistic" I guess.
I would take beauty over realism any day though.
Great stuff man! I totally agree on the brown hue being overly present in a next gen game like Skyrim. I'd love for some people to be inspired by this episode and make some modes based off of your suggestions similarly to how someone made a mod adjusting laser speeds and laser gun recoil in FO4 after Austin made a video about it
Here's another tip; open the console by pressing the ~ button on your keyboard, then type in 'teofis' without quotes.
Actually... you pointing this out... I always thought the colors were dull and maybe they could be brighter.. but I thought, you know: glass armor and dwemer armor is old and used. Metal oxides. But I never thought the colors were meant to be brighter. I got the impression, the game was supposed to look old, used and - maybe - the colors were meant to look like they faded with the sunlight. On the other hand, I never looked at the concept art. Thanks! This really got me thinking
Colour palette and overall visual 'mood' design in Skyrim is SUBLIME. Work of a master. Everything looks like this for a reason, and crafted to a little detail. Just adding colours and saturation is ruining the picture that was created on purpose.
Skyrim is a rough, cold, and brutal place. If you want to immerse yourself into this world, and feel it's freezing touch - for the love of god don't touch gamma with a ten foot pole.
I love the brown on everything. Personally I think it adds to the feeling that a lot of things in skyrim are really old/ancient, and therefor increased my immersion. When I think of the past like WW2 etc. I see it as dark and dingy, although this is not correct it is just how I imagine it would look like. Apparently my brain thinks just because it was like 50 years ago the world wouldn't have as much color.
As much as i think this is true for most games, the colour pallet in Skyrim is spot on for me. Its nit a wash out, but its not bright and cheery enough to desensitise the baron world and psyche of the people throughout the plot.
I liked the bleak color of Skyrim, as it added a dark, murky undertone to the atmosphere. It worked well with the theme of Skyrim, that being a land separated in war, turmoil, and destruction. The thing is, instead of adding more objects around the map to display this, they just added this color thing to the game and called it a night.
this is why riften was my favorite city because of the colorful trees around it
Personally I have my saturation for my TV turned up more . It adds to more than just one or two games. It changes the feel for many games and movies as well. Sometimes it's not that great and can be a tad overwhelming with all the color but that is easily adjusted .
I for one like the darker textures, it makes the game more Immersive. it makes me feel like I am in a harsh and brutal land where you must fight to survive, that's the main reason I love skyrim!
Color is probably one of the reasons I enjoyed Oblivion more than Skyrim. Granted there are other more noteworthy reasons, like it being my first Elder Scrolls game, and I of course loved Skyrim, but in Oblivion the landscape was much more vibrant and colorful and it made exploring feel more like an epic tale, while in skyrim everything just looked too similar, so I didn't feel like I was exploring different regions of the province. It became sort of like a way to get from dungeon A to dungeon B
I like the way the darkness makes Skyrim feel more grounded than other fantasy games
Rudy enb+Reshade framework (tweak yourself, super easy)+Enhanced Lighting Effects+Cinamatic fire+Skyrim HD+A shit ton of your preferred texture mods(for skin I suggest Skysight Skins, keeps the vannilla game look but amps the quality to 2k or 4k) Basically just mod your game a good deal and it can look like it came out this year. And it's super easy to mod, use nexus mod manager and LOOT to sort your load order.
I particularly like the color scheme. I think it resembles more of the color we would see before the industrial revolution. It also makes it easier on the brain.
If you want fantasy vibrancy slap up the saturation as mentioned. The default look is more like something you could actually see in the world.