KISS - Paul and Gene on Giving Peter a Second Chance

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
  • Clips from Paul and Gene's books. Gene and Paul explain the somewhat bizarre tryout they gave Peter before firing him.

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  • @timepoet77
    @timepoet77 3 года назад +32

    I’ll say this for Gene: he does care for Peter on a human level.

    • @xendava9360
      @xendava9360 3 года назад +16

      Think what you want about Gene. I do think that underneath all the bombast and ego.There is a caring and loving man.

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 2 года назад +8

      Yes, I agree!!! Paul hates Peter though, and part is still jealousy!!! Fact, he wrote great songs, Paul did I
      am saying, but Pete sang Black Diamond and Hard Luck Woman like nobody else could, period!!! Peter also, was an amazing drummer from 74-77, fact!!!! Gene was disappointed in Peter, because he knew Peter had talent, but didn't appreciate his drug and alcohol abuse!!!!

  • @adamwatson6916
    @adamwatson6916 3 года назад +16

    Its amazing how bands in the 70s were putting out 2 stuido albums a year and a live album every 2 years or so and today many bands put an album out every 3 or 4 Years

    • @paulewhite
      @paulewhite 3 года назад +4

      In the 70's people would buy records, not download them for free on P2P. Also, bands were exploited by the labels and this is the reason why most of them sooner or later blew up

    • @garytrew2766
      @garytrew2766 2 года назад +3

      @@paulewhite I miss those days .
      Brother Gary

  • @kevinchandler179
    @kevinchandler179 3 месяца назад +1

    Gene called Peter Criss an idiot!!@ I could imagine putting my hand through Paul and Gene face, instead of glass, the way they treated Peter and Ace!!!

  • @reubensane5539
    @reubensane5539 Год назад +2

    Harder to control that’s the key takeaway.
    If they cared about peters well being they would have tried to help him nog control him.

  • @2000Cowboys
    @2000Cowboys 2 года назад +4

    In Peter Criss's book ( Makeup To Breakup ) he talks about all the drugs...Then pills after the car crash...every thing said here is in the book....True Story

  • @SuperFlanders123
    @SuperFlanders123 2 года назад +7

    I'm gonna say it again... 1. Dollars to doughnuts,I'll bet he's Bi-Polar. 2. I wish...there was footage of Peter's"2nd chance that didn't go well."

    • @toddmorrissey8372
      @toddmorrissey8372 Год назад +1

      Oh, I'd SO love to see that. He no doubt looked absolutely ridiculous. I've heard his audition recording, and he sounds like Ricky Ricardo , but way less impressive.

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 7 месяцев назад +1

      I am so damn sure, bashing a living legend drummer, he was ever bad by the way!!!! Ridiculous bashing Peter as always is fuckin Ridiculous

  • @Igor_Vinicius
    @Igor_Vinicius 3 года назад +13

    My first Kiss record, back in 1983, was Unmasked. So there was no internet to tell us who played what. But I keep wondering if the fans noticed the completely different (and let's face it, technically superior, not necessarily better) drumming. You can let a musician go uncredited, but you can't expect everybody to completely ignore the fact that someone else is playing. As good as Anton Fig is (we all know that), I wonder why they didn't tell him to tone it down a bit. It's like they were hoping the fans noticed Peter was not on the record.
    So I ask anyone who was already a fan in 1979/1980: did you notice, from the first audition, that there was something odd? That it wasn't Peter who was playing?

    • @chuckpotockimusic2288
      @chuckpotockimusic2288 3 года назад +4

      I knew at the time in 1980 that it wasn't Peter playing; as you said, the drums were too perfect, almost Neil Peart-ish especially on Ace's "Two Sides Of The Coin", and totally not Peter's style of playing.

    • @glenbellefonte9620
      @glenbellefonte9620 3 года назад +8

      Not really the kind of thing an eight year old would immediately notice.

    • @glenbellefonte9620
      @glenbellefonte9620 3 года назад +1

      @ you bet.

    • @Klaus80804
      @Klaus80804 3 года назад +2

      You could also hear it on Dynasty that something has changed. Peter only played on one song there. But it got a little bit covered with the change of style leaning more towards Disco (Dynasty) and Pop (Unmasked). There was a break after Alive II with the solo albums, the Phantom Movie and so on ...

    • @mozrt
      @mozrt 3 года назад +5

      When I listen to Unmasked for the first time didn't know Peter was not playing, I only tough "Peter sounds diferent, he has improved his technique. Now he can play double bass drum!". I discovered the true years later.

  • @seanfay2848
    @seanfay2848 5 месяцев назад +1

    None of the 4 solo albums sold platinum. They shipped platinum. Ace came the closest,but none sold platinum.

  • @kevinchandler179
    @kevinchandler179 7 месяцев назад +1

    Paul said if you want to be at the front of the stage learn how to play the guitar 🎸? Lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂
    Maybe, he should take his own critique, because he messed up monumental times

  • @kevinchandler179
    @kevinchandler179 7 месяцев назад +1

    I am sure Peter didn't even remember or know how to play the original material!!!! Lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @exeortegarubio
    @exeortegarubio Год назад +1

    Can anybody who attended Kiss' shows from the Dynasty/Unmasked era confirm Paul's claims about Peter's tempo being bad and inconsistent?

  • @kevinchandler179
    @kevinchandler179 2 месяца назад

    Can you read sheet music, Gene and Paul????,??? That's what I thought

  • @garytrew2766
    @garytrew2766 2 года назад

    Incredulous , Gene doesn't hit me as a guy who uses that kind of word ✌️🤘🎸. Only an opinion not trying to diss him I know he's an intelligent man. Keep rocking KISS ARMY brothers and sisters ✌️🤘🎶🎸🦇
    Brother Gary ⚡⚡

  • @williamcurry1132
    @williamcurry1132 2 года назад

    2 lp's a year wish we had that still

  • @michaelsorrells4649
    @michaelsorrells4649 3 года назад +1

    He had own songs

  • @tieukhavu8832
    @tieukhavu8832 3 года назад +2

    Sounds like an interview, where Paul and Gene took turns to answer questions 😁.

  • @pattondiorama7136
    @pattondiorama7136 3 года назад +10

    Peter became a diva.

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 7 месяцев назад

      Ha, nice try!!!! The diva is the scumbag bashing Peter right now!!!

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 7 месяцев назад +1

      No, he was a fuckin legend 👏

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 4 месяца назад +1

      No, Peter and Ace were finally done with the bullshit Paul and Gene being dictators were!!! If you read Peter's book, he bashes himself and admitted to the coke and booze and everything, but he and Ace have said, they were unhappy at the moment of solos and the Phantom of the Park movie bullshit!!!!

  • @vegasraiderspetef9883
    @vegasraiderspetef9883 7 дней назад

    Peter sabotaged his own career not once but twice

  • @kevinchandler179
    @kevinchandler179 3 месяца назад

    And, the disgusting audacity for Paul and Gene to have someone try to give Peter Criss a legendary drummer lessons!!! Pathetic

  • @Rock4UNow
    @Rock4UNow 3 года назад +6

    They let the Fortune & Fame Control them. That's why the band fell apart, that's all this shows me. Have some god damn compassion. Drugs or no drugs they're ungrateful Greedy jerks.
    Ace & Peter made KISS cool and interesting. Without them these two goofballs would have never made it.

    • @Rock4UNow
      @Rock4UNow 3 года назад +1

      @Logan Tyler Takes a lot to achieve what they did and Im sure until 78 they kept their eye on the prize but they obviously had other goals they tried to explore different options. It's very common in a band.

    • @Rock4UNow
      @Rock4UNow 3 года назад +2

      @Logan Tyler They're conceited controlling attitude fueled their destructive behavior but that didn't mean they didn't grow tired of it. I believe they were all sick of it and needed Eric & Vinny to bring them back. But still The band to Gene /Paul was more important than the living human beings right in front of them. They're just typical greedy blacken souls controlled by money.
      It wasn't Ace & Peter that changed it was Gene then Paul.

    • @tt55899
      @tt55899 2 года назад +2

      So let a drugged out mess who can't play his instrument stay in the band? Great idea dude

    • @Rock4UNow
      @Rock4UNow 2 года назад +1

      @@tt55899 That's Rock & Roll, deal with it like a band or gang you don't kick your brother in music to the curb when he's down. They let money make their decisions. Plus their greed took advantage of their desperate situation.Hopefully its different now but since Ace & Peter didn't sign the waiver for the documentary greed still controls them.

    • @tt55899
      @tt55899 2 года назад

      @@Rock4UNow when your "brother" let's his bullshit carry over to the stage where fans pay money to see him and he intentionally messes up to piss his "brothers" off...yeah kick him to the curb. I doubt you'd have that opinion if you were at one of those shows

  • @erics9754
    @erics9754 Год назад +1

    End of something lol Yeah the end of Kiss! Paul, you fired the guy who had more talent and a better voice than you and if you were not so full of yourself you would have seen it.

  • @saltykrug
    @saltykrug 2 года назад +2

    Man, that photo of Peter, he looks really bad. The music stand thing is funny as hell. Why the fuck would somebody do that shit? If he could read he should have known by the titles at least should have told him something.

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 7 месяцев назад

      Are you kidding me? Do you really believe anything Paul and Gene say, if you do I own the Brooklyn Bridge 🌉!!! Lol 😂

  • @recabitejehonadab2654
    @recabitejehonadab2654 3 года назад +11

    Peter was a nut job and was toxic to the band. It was best they got rid of him.

    • @duffbaker9554
      @duffbaker9554 3 года назад

      @Steve Joens Being straight-laced is the same as being a nut job?

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, Peter was such a fuckin problem!!!!!!@! Lol
      Now, the truth, he was frickin amazing especially in his prime, and this bullshit smear campaign doesn't change the fact that Peter was not only one of the 5 best drummers on the planet in the 70's, but by far had the best voice in the original lineup!!!!! Team Peter and Ace always

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 4 месяца назад +1

      Peter said in his book, he did truly regret the slowing down music at live Dynasty show, because the fans didn't deserve that, but he also said Paul and Gene were unbelievably and impossible to deal with, dictators!!! Piss off Stanley and Gene!!!

  • @saecculum4795
    @saecculum4795 3 года назад +1

    Lol, sounds like Peter Criss had a Ruttumtugtuger moment!

  • @kevinchandler179
    @kevinchandler179 2 года назад +3

    This is a bullshit smear campaign against a living legend drummer!!! Period

  • @frostedhead
    @frostedhead 2 года назад +3

    Would a Playboy Playmate 'and what is the anyway? not a doctor or a lawyer' married Paul if she knew he was a one eared deaf circus side show freak?

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 7 месяцев назад +1

      Great statement, because it's ok for Paul to call Peter stupid and illiterate and constantly bash Catman and Ace, but Stanley doesn't like criticism at all!!! Piss on Stanley

  • @johnnypk1963
    @johnnypk1963 3 года назад

    I enjoy the stories but the writing is awful.

  • @ronaldtravis970
    @ronaldtravis970 3 года назад +6

    Eric Singer smokes Peter , LoL he can’t hold a candle to either Eric (Carr) LOL what a duch

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 7 месяцев назад

      You are not just wrong or an idiot, but you can't spell worth a shit!!!!! Now, Peter was amazing and fantastic and Eric Carr as well, different type of drummers, both great!!!! Little orphan after thought Eric Singer will never in a million years be in the league of Peter or Eric Carr

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 7 месяцев назад +1

      Little orphan Eric Singer is not and never will be in the same league as the living legend Catman

    • @Mitch_NZ
      @Mitch_NZ 4 месяца назад

      ⁠@@kevinchandler179yeah he’s not in the same league - he’s way above said league. Eric drums circles around Peter.

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 3 месяца назад

      ERIC SINGER SUCKS ASS!!!@ PETER CRISS LEGEND ​@@Mitch_NZ

  • @thehouseofautumnspells258
    @thehouseofautumnspells258 3 года назад +6

    KISS should never have continued without Peter or Ace.
    Also, they should NEVER have done Unmasked. Worst fucking KISS album EVER.
    Except for a couple of songs Dynasty was also pure garbage.

    • @titaniabell6680
      @titaniabell6680 2 года назад +2

      I like Dynasty and Unmasked. Still better than anything they were doing up until revenge. Imho

    • @ronbabalaqua7636
      @ronbabalaqua7636 2 года назад +1

      Totally agree, unmasked is the worst kiss album made on my opinion.

    • @exeortegarubio
      @exeortegarubio Год назад +1

      @@titaniabell6680 I disagree. Asylum, Lick It Up, and especially Creatures Of The Night are great records.
      The problem, though, is that Kiss was plagued with inconsistency up until Revenge.

    • @titaniabell6680
      @titaniabell6680 Год назад +1

      @@exeortegarubio they are great in their own rights.....for sure. Heavy metal albums 100%. To me kiss is not a heavy metal band. Kiss is a rock and roll band. You could make one best of album from all the kiss records from creatures of the night to hot in the shade 😎. There is a reason why kiss is not playing any of those songs live . Imho

    • @Ieatpaste23
      @Ieatpaste23 Год назад

      @@titaniabell6680 Because Paul can't sing any of those songs anymore.

  • @vaekkriinhart4347
    @vaekkriinhart4347 Год назад

    Peter sucked after Love Gun.. And his solo album was/ is horrible- worse than Gene's

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 7 месяцев назад

      No, you suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 7 месяцев назад +1

      Nope, Catman never sucked, and his solo album was much better than Gene!!!!

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 3 месяца назад +1

      Peter Criss on coke and booze even never sucked!!! Paul and Gene still hated the fact that Peter Criss and Ace on coke and booze were still amazing and fantastic 😀!!!