England's WORST Home Defeat (Until France 2023) | England vs South Africa | Autumn Highlights 2008

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  • England Vs South Africa 2008 Autumn International Test Match - Until England vs France Six Nations 2023, this match was England's largest home loss ever
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  • @clippedrugby14
    @clippedrugby14  Год назад +30

    The only way is up England..

    • @dylanevans1901
      @dylanevans1901 Год назад +6

      The only way is down for England they are an Embarrassment lost to France and Scotland 😂👎👎

    • @John-ny7jn
      @John-ny7jn Год назад +5

      @@dylanevans1901England have hit rock bottom, I think the point is they can’t get any worse so the only way is up

    • @dylanevans1901
      @dylanevans1901 Год назад +2

      @@John-ny7jn I finally understand what you mean I hope they don't improve because I'm Welsh 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

    • @John-ny7jn
      @John-ny7jn Год назад +7

      @@dylanevans1901 I think the rest of the rugby world agrees with u

    • @twistdvr6807
      @twistdvr6807 Год назад

      A dead cat bounce

  • @MrBreakdownBoy
    @MrBreakdownBoy Год назад +305

    This Springbok team went on to win the 2009 Lions Tour, and then the tri-nations, beating the All Blacks three times. The 2007-2009 Springboks were special.

    • @Skyscraper2015
      @Skyscraper2015 Год назад +29

      Don't forget several of those were Bulls players who went on to score in 2009 and 2010 for the Super Rugby title

    • @tkChl
      @tkChl Год назад +17

      As a kiwi I agree... and still to this day I always look forward the south Africa all lacks game

    • @SMacCuUladh
      @SMacCuUladh Год назад +1

      It was also a very poor England side. Ireland beat them 3 years in a row in the 6 nations.

    • @karlosdeevs
      @karlosdeevs 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@SMacCuUladh Actually 4 years in a row 2004, 2005, 2006 & 2007. But prior to this game England won the 2008 clash handsomely

    • @cwengagilimane2281
      @cwengagilimane2281 7 месяцев назад +2

      At the same time our 7s team are the World Champs and Series Champs, only country to hold both in like 50 years

  • @notthisprickagain8499
    @notthisprickagain8499 Год назад +120

    "Not one more please" 🤣🤣

    • @agustinenzoa4447
      @agustinenzoa4447 10 месяцев назад +3

      I so enjoyed hearing that!!! lol

    • @SoCalDreaming87
      @SoCalDreaming87 7 месяцев назад +2

      The absolute despair in his voice😂😂😂

    • @Jesus_is_Lord_316
      @Jesus_is_Lord_316 3 месяца назад +2

      The sound of defeat - pleading for mercy 😂😂

  • @waltergreen5894
    @waltergreen5894 Год назад +135

    My dad never hated England he just supported the team playing against them 👍

  • @nox6885
    @nox6885 Год назад +64

    Frans Steyn in his early years was unstoppable. Boot, running, offloads, defence. He was crazy good.

    • @drkimanikabii2521
      @drkimanikabii2521 10 месяцев назад +1

      he was crazy

    • @darrylbutt2570
      @darrylbutt2570 Месяц назад

      He was a monster.

    • @Wolf-hh4rv
      @Wolf-hh4rv 14 дней назад +1

      Should have played so many more games for SA. They messed him around and he told them to F off.

  • @matlhari
    @matlhari Год назад +157

    There's nothing I love more than watching England getting a beating. Their media and pundits made them so unlikeable during the RWC.

    • @francismyers4556
      @francismyers4556 Год назад +7

      I believe the term is Belted

    • @lancedowns958
      @lancedowns958 Год назад +5

      I'm a new Zealander an it's sad how most the country treat.england players

    • @ArchieFatcackie
      @ArchieFatcackie 11 месяцев назад +1

      Absolute inaccurate nonsense.

    • @boetiess
      @boetiess 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@ArchieFatcackieEnglishman detected

    • @paddyanglais91
      @paddyanglais91 9 месяцев назад

      Racist

  • @John-ny7jn
    @John-ny7jn Год назад +127

    Poor Steve Borthwick Captain and Head Coach in Englands 2 worst home defeats ever

    • @stevenbissett
      @stevenbissett Год назад +14

      What a record to hold

    • @BMW2002M10
      @BMW2002M10 Год назад +6

      Well Genge is their captain in their worst defeat now 😂😂😂

    • @shaunesaus2460
      @shaunesaus2460 Год назад +2

      Just realized that 🤣🤣🤣

    • @dombrandon3018
      @dombrandon3018 Год назад +1

      Eddie Jones was head coach for the South Africa defeat. It's why he ultimately got the boot.
      Borthwick took over a just few weeks before 6 Nations but had nothing to with England during the SA defeat.

    • @devongarvie6261
      @devongarvie6261 Год назад +7

      @@dombrandon3018 no, but he was captain for this South African defeat

  • @chrismia2402
    @chrismia2402 15 дней назад +4

    I was there that day, what a match! Best part was the pubs in Twickenham after the match, have to appreciate the English fans grace after the loss.

  • @JustAdad.
    @JustAdad. Год назад +42

    Frans and Riaan are still playing 🤣 holy moly

    • @IwasInThe60s
      @IwasInThe60s Год назад +16

      Truly remarkable. If SA has a flyhalf crisis at the RWC we can always call on Naas Botha. He is only 63.😅

    • @commentwell3870
      @commentwell3870 Год назад +2

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @kb8796
      @kb8796 Год назад +2

      They gathering pension 😂😂😂

    • @jossiesteenkamp9317
      @jossiesteenkamp9317 Год назад +2

      Yes Frans on his way to 2024 RWC

  • @Marius_vanderLubbe
    @Marius_vanderLubbe 10 месяцев назад +9

    I love it when they get a damn good hammering. It is just so funny.

  • @BatTaz19
    @BatTaz19 Год назад +37

    Springboks eating lions will always be entertaining 😂

  • @MerckZ21
    @MerckZ21 11 месяцев назад +14

    Pienaar should have played 10 for the Boks for a decade. Hugely underrated player.
    Would love to have seen du Preez at 9, Pienaar at 10 and Steyn at 12 for a stretch.

    • @randomlyfactual1943
      @randomlyfactual1943 13 дней назад +3

      He could have made an excellent 10.
      But in the 2007 I think he was not seen as a fly-half outside of emergencies. When 2008/9 rolled around, Morné Steyn made that position his and although Pienaar is the more dynamic player, we can't ignore the incredible kicking boot from Morne.

    • @clementleroux8754
      @clementleroux8754 9 дней назад +1

      I have been saying the same thing for years.

  • @MetYsJa
    @MetYsJa 11 месяцев назад +9

    I never get tired of watching us pump England at headquarters.

  • @LockedDownSpectator
    @LockedDownSpectator 7 месяцев назад +4

    07:45 “Not one more. Please!” - Go back six years at that same venue. As Springbok fans how we felt during the second half of 53-3.

  • @charcolew
    @charcolew 11 месяцев назад +10

    So Steve Borthwick played in that record defeat and then managed England to their new record defeat? Impressive!

  • @reniervanheerden6830
    @reniervanheerden6830 Год назад +9

    "Oh not one more please?"... priceless.

  • @kentcyclist5330
    @kentcyclist5330 Год назад +17

    I was there for that game. Got so hammered I still can’t remember how I got home. Magical day. It was absolutely freezing

  • @rosak8480
    @rosak8480 Год назад +34

    Love this Bok team🤩 They were Brutal.... Woould have been redcarded a few times if it was 2023

    • @waywoo25
      @waywoo25 13 дней назад +1

      I thought that too😂. That try saving tackle of JP Pieterson would have been a red card today no doubt.

    • @xanderferreira1893
      @xanderferreira1893 9 дней назад

      @@waywoo25 today's game got so soft.

  • @harkeb
    @harkeb 9 месяцев назад +10

    Make us proud again Boks! 2023

  • @YesHeIsCool
    @YesHeIsCool Год назад +23

    My highlight will always be the 36/0 at the WC 07

    • @wannabeegonnabee2593
      @wannabeegonnabee2593 Год назад +6

      no, i would almost say the last w/cup where england took off/refused to take the 2nd place medals? 🤣

    • @Loggzy1
      @Loggzy1 8 месяцев назад

      Absolutely loved Ireland turning you boys over last weekend. 🎉

    • @Blindside_Flanker
      @Blindside_Flanker 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@Loggzy1Absolutely loved witnessing another Ireland quarter final exit. 8 in a row? Quite a record.

    • @thegreytone
      @thegreytone 8 дней назад +1

      ​@@Loggzy1 you insult us prepare to get it back!!

  • @leonmeyer5049
    @leonmeyer5049 Год назад +36

    That English team was far better than the 2023 version

    • @gchelem
      @gchelem Год назад

      Like the SA team was better than the current mediocre one.

    • @luciusbotes3819
      @luciusbotes3819 Год назад

      @@gchelem You are entitled to your own opinion not your own facts

    • @gchelem
      @gchelem Год назад

      @@luciusbotes3819 facts are not owned because they are objective.

    • @the_katman2181
      @the_katman2181 11 месяцев назад

      @@gchelem You mean the reigning world champions? The team going to France this year is 75% that team.

  • @cringycook9597
    @cringycook9597 Год назад +20

    Was this the game where the commentator said "England don't beat South Africa anymore" 😂

    • @kmay4963
      @kmay4963 Год назад

      Unlike South Africans, who are always unlikeable 364 days a year 😊

  • @Ballas56
    @Ballas56 8 дней назад +3

    Poor England - always nice to show them who is the Daddy though.

  • @kevinrtres
    @kevinrtres Год назад +7

    The best comment - @7:45 - "Oh, no, not one more, PLEASE!!!!' 😂😅

  • @Wolf-hh4rv
    @Wolf-hh4rv Год назад +16

    Loved that game remember so well. Funny that Pienaar played 10 always a 9

    • @leonhattingh9216
      @leonhattingh9216 Год назад +1

      Pienaar played fullback for the Springboks in 2007.

    • @lomo3883
      @lomo3883 Год назад

      ​@@leonhattingh9216 wasnt it montgomery

  • @JesusChrististheway1010
    @JesusChrististheway1010 6 месяцев назад +2

    Pure power

  • @starrider529
    @starrider529 11 месяцев назад +8

    Come on people, all I can say is, keep supporting your respective teams..especially at this time, where the RWC 2023 is knocking on the door. Most teams have been going through changes and faced many difficult, internal issues, but the players need the support of their fellow countrymen. Yes, obviously couching staff play a massive role in a team's preparations for a world cup, but low morale and motivation is a killer for any teams. Based on talent alone, I think most of the top ranking teams have got the potential to win the 2023 cup. Look back at the upset caused by the Bokke loosing to Japan!! The Bokke went into the 2019 RWC as underdogs, but we won the trophy. A lot of teams might feel, and be considered as underdogs this year, but the trophy has never been as open, and up for grabs as this year.
    As a staunch Saffa, I will never rule out any country, and neither will I slag off, or belittle any team....but all I can say is, keep supporting your team, and be proud of them, they need it. I hope everyone will enjoy this world cup..its going to be an epic one. And in true sportsmanship, may the best team win, and raise that cup. Cheers.

  • @Alltakenbla
    @Alltakenbla 6 месяцев назад +1

    Lovely

  • @KK-yv8qr
    @KK-yv8qr 7 дней назад +1

    Love it when the poms get hammered

  • @PauloJorgeMonteiro
    @PauloJorgeMonteiro Год назад +15

    Every big Nation has been in the doldrums. Well all apart from New Zealand, which have the odd patchy year where they still manage to get 66% win ratio.
    France has had 10 dreadful years and South Africa between 2016-2017 did not have it easy either.
    But going back to England... Eddie was not the problem.

    • @kb8796
      @kb8796 Год назад +1

      Agree!!! Then other nation must learn something from the All blacks there is something that they are doing right

    • @mazambane286
      @mazambane286 Год назад

      New Zealand has been in the doldrums since it's establishment! Other than a bit of rugby what else have they got? The land of the long................. bore!

  • @graham2954
    @graham2954 11 месяцев назад +2

    fantastic.

  • @24NIEMAND
    @24NIEMAND 11 месяцев назад +2

    imagine another SA v ENG WC final

  • @nelisvanwieren9508
    @nelisvanwieren9508 Год назад +7

    The day we gave England a lesson in Rugby.......

  • @Slappies007
    @Slappies007 Год назад +25

    Pienaar is still playing 😮

  • @elijahmohammed2960
    @elijahmohammed2960 Год назад +2

    Loved this - Great Springbok team

  • @MarsFKA
    @MarsFKA 13 дней назад +1

    As a bonus, it shut up that Swing Low Sweet Smegging Chariot. Probably the most detested song in world Rugby.

  • @dimitardobrev3296
    @dimitardobrev3296 9 дней назад

    Wow Steve Borthwick at the end there! I'm newish to Rugby

  • @sabataking4427
    @sabataking4427 Год назад +6

    This game still relevant today

  • @Mangumanguwhakahihi
    @Mangumanguwhakahihi Год назад +2

    Beautiful

  • @velimasuku8808
    @velimasuku8808 Год назад +5

    Springboks gave em crazy work 😂😂😂

  • @mjlourens565
    @mjlourens565 Год назад +1

    Armitage running into Jantjes was the cherry on top

    • @shaunesaus2460
      @shaunesaus2460 9 месяцев назад +1

      The ref even said to Jantjies "you stood your ground"...than gives him a yellow card

  • @SignificantWines
    @SignificantWines Год назад +6

    I think this will be the first world cup where 6 or so teams actually stand a chance of winning on the day....going to be great ;).... Go Bokke

    • @jackblack111
      @jackblack111 Год назад +1

      I count 4. SA, NZ, FRA, IRL. Who else you got?

    • @SignificantWines
      @SignificantWines Год назад +2

      @@jackblack111 can never discard England and Australia from making the final... especially with their side of the draw.... Argentina could be a wild card as well... reckon will be a great world cup.

    • @jackblack111
      @jackblack111 Год назад +4

      @@SignificantWines Doubt England will be ready and be a competitor based on current performance but hey anything can happen. I agree, this world cup will be one for the books.

  • @townsley2
    @townsley2 Год назад +3

    Steve Borthwick was rehearsing for the France game.

  • @dorettekotze2061
    @dorettekotze2061 Год назад +3

    lots of wins awaiting the Boks yet

  • @ytevysbhtb
    @ytevysbhtb Год назад +1

    7:03 OMFG those screams !!! xD

  • @MickJaggerr1
    @MickJaggerr1 Год назад +13

    Those tannies screaming after every try lol 😂

  • @africanmamba1021
    @africanmamba1021 3 дня назад +1

    Good old classic hiding … England will never and have never been on the boks level or anywhere near it … they too soft and the physicality is overwhelming . Not even in the same universe . 4 time world champs 🏆🏆🏆🏆

  • @Wolf-hh4rv
    @Wolf-hh4rv Год назад +7

    It’s all down to that wretched “swing low” about someone who wasn’t English. Fields of Athenry now that is something to face

  • @JohnMichaels-fs7bi
    @JohnMichaels-fs7bi Год назад +2

    At least they scored against France.

  • @Mo-yd8xc
    @Mo-yd8xc 10 месяцев назад +2

    "An awful 2nd half for inglan."😂

  • @Thinkbefore2
    @Thinkbefore2 Год назад +6

    By far the best Bok jersey in history

  • @pablonunez7437
    @pablonunez7437 10 месяцев назад +1

    Sudáfrica como en sus buenos tiempos

  • @xDontStandInTheFirex
    @xDontStandInTheFirex Год назад +7

    this was just after the 2007 world cup, where both were in the finals. Can't believe England lost so badly that soon after 07.

    • @Justin-gm2fi
      @Justin-gm2fi Год назад +5

      They got pumped by the boks in 2007 WC group stage aswell

    • @joneh9483
      @joneh9483 Год назад +1

      Those were dark times for england rugby

    • @daviddempster8717
      @daviddempster8717 Год назад +1

      Highs and lows, been there too🇿🇦

    • @doppies2000
      @doppies2000 Год назад

      ​​@@joneh9483 were dark times ?!
      🤦🏻🤡

    • @MrBreakdownBoy
      @MrBreakdownBoy Год назад +3

      Springboks played very conservatively in the final but were in control the whole game. That group stage game was more reflective of the divide between the two teams.

  • @jeffjohns6322
    @jeffjohns6322 12 дней назад +1

    We call it Bliksem (lightning)

  • @christotaljaard7984
    @christotaljaard7984 Год назад +3

    England are going to have a hard time in the world cup

  • @adriaanboshoff9754
    @adriaanboshoff9754 Год назад +1

    Ow good was Ruan Pienaar

  • @claudenaidoo4064
    @claudenaidoo4064 6 дней назад +1

    What year was this?

  • @St_AngusYoung
    @St_AngusYoung 11 месяцев назад +1

    Makes up for the 50 point caning England dished out to South Africa in 2002.

    • @SoCalDreaming87
      @SoCalDreaming87 7 месяцев назад +2

      That was, for a long time, the darkest day in our rugby history.

  • @axelwebb5349
    @axelwebb5349 Год назад +1

    I once heard someone say it sounded like a cricket score, 42 for 6.

  • @altf4gaming637
    @altf4gaming637 10 месяцев назад

    Cipriani - what a stain on the English jersey.

  • @lancedowns958
    @lancedowns958 Год назад +1

    What a thrashing

  • @C414AC
    @C414AC 11 дней назад

    Satisfying. Nearly as much as watching Aussie knock them out of their own WC in 2015 😅

  • @HelloMyNamesNino
    @HelloMyNamesNino 10 месяцев назад +1

    What a pasting

  • @gregmayo6987
    @gregmayo6987 10 месяцев назад

    Its always a beautiful thing when England lose in any sport

  • @lindokuhlempeta690
    @lindokuhlempeta690 Год назад +2

    Go Bokke 😂🎉❤

  • @sinenhlanhlamlondo8013
    @sinenhlanhlamlondo8013 6 месяцев назад

    This is the springbok team that made the All Blacks

  • @24NIEMAND
    @24NIEMAND 12 дней назад +2

    36 - 0 pool stages France 2007 rwc

    • @thegreytone
      @thegreytone 8 дней назад

      And then 15-6 right in the final?

  • @ianpulham3624
    @ianpulham3624 Год назад +8

    It's been the same story for years. England's forwards keep getting outmanouvred on the ground and in the breakdown. They either give away fouls or lose the ball. Thereafter, they waste good attacking posions or put the defence under huge pressure, which cracks. See the recent game against France for the latest example.

  • @mizmera
    @mizmera 13 дней назад +2

    Dit altyd moeilikheid as die bal uitkom aan die wit kant...

  • @the_katman2181
    @the_katman2181 11 месяцев назад

    A year earlier the Boks beat them by the same margin in the WC pool game.

  • @dorettekotze2061
    @dorettekotze2061 Год назад

    always best Boks

  • @plutoniumnitrate1201
    @plutoniumnitrate1201 Год назад

    springbok supporter and fan. The springboks did have a really good team.....but the all blacks were going through a rebuilding phase that year and it was confirmed when they beat us three times in 2010 all the way up to 2018 were things have been on a level playing field

  • @jacqloock
    @jacqloock Год назад +3

    Who is that #4? Wow, what a playa?!

    • @fredperry523
      @fredperry523 Год назад +1

      JP Botha - played for Northern Transvaal ( The Blue Bulls ).

    • @tonyclifton1278
      @tonyclifton1278 Год назад +1

      @@fredperry523 JP? Bakkies!

    • @animekawaiichan9399
      @animekawaiichan9399 Год назад

      @@fredperry523 BAKKIES BOTHA YOU IDIOT!!

    • @fredperry523
      @fredperry523 Год назад +1

      @@tonyclifton1278Yup - ol batterproof bakkies !

  • @christiaanwilhelmnieuwoudt7713
    @christiaanwilhelmnieuwoudt7713 6 месяцев назад +1

    Borthwick was in this English side...no wonder hes so anti Bokke😅

  • @justsceptic3085
    @justsceptic3085 Год назад

    french here, thx to bokkes to let us win by the worst home defeat at twickenham

  • @888young2
    @888young2 Год назад

    Utter despair

  • @markbrown-sb2zm
    @markbrown-sb2zm Год назад

    I thought England were a mighty nation ? Just can not match Bok physicality,never could,never will.

    • @randomlyfactual1943
      @randomlyfactual1943 13 дней назад

      They did. From 2000 to 2006 they pummeled us. Beat us in the world cup and humiliated us 53-3

  • @clasieclaassen5365
    @clasieclaassen5365 Год назад

    The 2nd last trie of SA looked like there was obstruction from SA side. I am a SA supporter from SA. Your opinions?

    • @johanstruwig3815
      @johanstruwig3815 Год назад

      No it was not obstruction, the 5 match officials were all happy with it.

    • @sivanaidoo7578
      @sivanaidoo7578 11 месяцев назад

      SA Supporter here, thought its beneath our team, specially given what the score was. that was like a spinning elbow MMA moment

  • @peeps977
    @peeps977 Год назад +8

    But the murderer poms never get a try against the mighty Springboks

  • @Saltdriverdiver
    @Saltdriverdiver 2 месяца назад +1

    Matt Stevans England Hooker South African old boy walking off that pitch must have felt gutted

  • @eisbeinGermany
    @eisbeinGermany Год назад +1

    the best defeat was the 2019 world cup.South Africa humiliated England

    • @mbulelobam7529
      @mbulelobam7529 12 дней назад +1

      How do you feel about this comment a year later ?

    • @eisbeinGermany
      @eisbeinGermany 12 дней назад

      @@mbulelobam7529 I always laugh 😂 when I see the comments section about who was is the best 🏉🏉 player 🤣, everyone at his time was the best 😹 I will say

    • @mbulelobam7529
      @mbulelobam7529 12 дней назад

      @@eisbeinGermany Cool. What are your thoughts about the 2019 final versus the 2023 semi-final in terms of best defeat?

    • @eisbeinGermany
      @eisbeinGermany 12 дней назад

      @@mbulelobam7529 i never watched any 2023 games, as DSTV switched off my signal , was only able to watch the 2019 final, and sky sports and other tv stations don't allow signal in Germany, rules one had a decoder

  • @MeanAzz_13
    @MeanAzz_13 Год назад +1

    What about all those England tries lol

  • @peteharry351
    @peteharry351 Год назад

    2002 Twickenham

  • @user-jy8gl3so8b
    @user-jy8gl3so8b 13 дней назад

    I have a long sleeve eng rugby Jersey signed by the entire British team. Not sure if it's worth anything?

  • @gertdutoit4869
    @gertdutoit4869 Год назад

    Who was captain?

  • @warken1985
    @warken1985 Год назад

    3:29 - Sausages... :D

  • @waynelion-cachet35
    @waynelion-cachet35 3 дня назад

    The ref missed so much foul play by England in this game, and now he's rated as the best there ever was? Maybe he should rewatch his performance here before bashing the TMO role in modern rugby? If he'd been better here, the TMP wouldn't have been needed?

  • @ruaidhrineville2100
    @ruaidhrineville2100 Год назад +6

    2:40 would've been a red

    • @onskyk
      @onskyk Год назад +3

      In today's money yes.

    • @jomecmathslearn
      @jomecmathslearn Год назад

      Owen Farrell special(!). Okay, okay as a Welshman, you could call it a Liam Williams special. He may be a twunt, but he's our twunt

  • @citizenrageza
    @citizenrageza 13 дней назад

    England should have stayed home that day

  • @szhasteinn9061
    @szhasteinn9061 Год назад +4

    Sorry but France did louder

    • @johnsmithwinkwink1704
      @johnsmithwinkwink1704 Год назад +9

      How many RWC's do France have ? Jeez some people hey.

    • @ianjacobs2998
      @ianjacobs2998 Год назад +1

      Yes 😊😊Springboks to retain 'THEIR' World Cup!! The 2nd time in France!!! 😊😊😊😉

    • @brunodesbergesdarz
      @brunodesbergesdarz Год назад +2

      @@johnsmithwinkwink1704 It could have be one ; without the scandalous SA's Joubert refereeing. Rugby spirit betrayed this day...

    • @johnsmithwinkwink1704
      @johnsmithwinkwink1704 Год назад

      @@brunodesbergesdarz Ahhh the ref hmmm!!! So how many RWC trophies are in your cabinet ? I'll help you there NONE ZERO NOTHING . You French bastards stole the hosting of the RWC 2023 away from South Africa and you will NOT be forgiven for that, I wish your team nothing but bad luck and misfortune.

    • @FMJParis18
      @FMJParis18 Год назад

      ​@@johnsmithwinkwink1704 What does it have to do with RWC ?

  • @jomecmathslearn
    @jomecmathslearn Год назад +1

    I kind of got the feeling that the England Team never really respected Martin Johnson as coach. Evidence to the otherwise please. Even pre-World Cup you had parts of the Squad arguably under-performing.

    • @jomecmathslearn
      @jomecmathslearn Год назад

      Also... and this may be real reach, but of all the England coaches post-1969, Johnson and Borthwick are the only to have serious England Team experience. There are internal politics in all things I guess, maybe the England Team prefer those not so close to the nexus of the team?

    • @johandevilliers4471
      @johandevilliers4471 Год назад

      It is strange as he earned his stripes as a player. That does not necessarily make you a good coach, but it should earn you the respect of your players.

    • @paulmulryne8405
      @paulmulryne8405 Год назад

      As an England fan, they respected him as a player. As a coach he was just too close to the players. There was a real culture of drinking under Johnson. I can’t remember which player it was, but when they were asked about England’s WC exit they said, “WC? I thought we were on Mike Tindall’s stag do!” 😅 it’s a funny line, but kind of sums up their attitude. He also never earned his stripes as a coach either, just got fast tracked off the back of his name.

  • @MyCousin82
    @MyCousin82 Год назад +13

    I can respect England's rugby heritage but wow they are full of excuses when things go pear-shaped. Just take it on the chin and back to the drawing board.

    • @subwax
      @subwax Год назад +1

      Pot .... kettle???
      ;)

    • @MyCousin82
      @MyCousin82 Год назад

      @@subwax To be fair, 83.7% of my irritation is Clive Woodward. :-) grates me that he is pushing some of the current troubles on Eddie. Just not right. But 6 months can be a long time in rugby, maybe England can take it deep in RWC

    • @subwax
      @subwax Год назад +1

      @@MyCousin82 So your assessment of the entire England outlook on the current situation is based on the comments on one person???
      You should see some of the comments on the SA related topics if you want to see excuses - hence my comment.

    • @MyCousin82
      @MyCousin82 Год назад

      @@subwax No, just find it bizarre that Woodward is given any airtime. Hope ENG can bounce back though, sad to see them directionless like this.

    • @subwax
      @subwax Год назад +1

      @@MyCousin82 He's only there to provide an opinion - you either take it, or in your case - not. He's not the be all and end all of English rugby, just a small part of it. He won a world cup, so he has to get respect for that at least - thats something you or I have not done.
      I think we'll be fine - maybe not for the World Cup though, but still - they should have sacked Jones a year before they did - now we are paying the price for it. It happens to all teams at some point, even the might AB's.

  • @kanna1984
    @kanna1984 Год назад +5

    Why was that a yellow card for the springbok player? He didn't move at all. The English player ran straight into him.

    • @davidsalterego4481
      @davidsalterego4481 Год назад +2

      He deliberately stayed in the path of the runner to block him, which is illegal in the game.

    • @WillCamx
      @WillCamx Год назад +1

      I agree. It's not like he moved into his path. Surely it's up to the England player to run around him?
      Why should you have to get out of someone's way?

    • @stephenjennings4031
      @stephenjennings4031 Год назад +3

      If he had ran into Bakkies he would dead.

  • @wolf2016.
    @wolf2016. Год назад

    Super BOKKE!

  • @Br0kensaint1
    @Br0kensaint1 Год назад +6

    How I miss this pattern from the boks. Playing the game at pace. Ball in hand. Now we are reduced to kicking the leather off the ball. Channel one runners of 9. Slowing our own ball down milking penalties. It's sacrilege

    • @archvermin
      @archvermin Год назад

      Me too, though it does give me a quiet satisfaction to see the Springboks defeating the English and the Lions team using their own methods

    • @Br0kensaint1
      @Br0kensaint1 Год назад

      The English under Eddie changed that quite. We are the only country that is playing this way which does put us at the mercy of the other teams making mistakes and the referees.

  • @christotaljaard7984
    @christotaljaard7984 Год назад

    It do not feel like a 20/3 game 😂😂😂

  • @devinerentalsltd8708
    @devinerentalsltd8708 7 месяцев назад

    Should have been a red card or a penalty try when the full back took that chaser 😂 hardly needed when your winning by that much either!

    • @Hanamy7777
      @Hanamy7777 16 дней назад

      Purely accidental. Fullback tripped over his own feet.

  • @boldbeam4534
    @boldbeam4534 Год назад +24

    The French win was still far more comprehensive. I think they would have destroyed all teams on that day

    • @kelsofire7366
      @kelsofire7366 Год назад +1

      i agree

    • @johnarch6876
      @johnarch6876 Год назад

      You beat the team standing in front of you. Different game if the Boks or the Blacks are around. It's a DNA thing.

    • @subwax
      @subwax Год назад

      @@kelsofire7366 Allez les blues

    • @president6645
      @president6645 Год назад

      Blah blah

    • @MrBreakdownBoy
      @MrBreakdownBoy Год назад +3

      I don't know. That 2007-2009 Springbok team was pretty special. RWC, Lions series win, and 3-0 against All Blacks? Especially the 2009 team.

  • @101MRSPICE
    @101MRSPICE Год назад +2

    England really are crap Borthwick in this team got a smashing Biggest Budget, Biggest League, Biggest Pool of Players, Biggest country England are just CRAP!!!!

  • @TimothyT230
    @TimothyT230 10 дней назад +1

    Poesklap