Zuck’s brutal takedown of Apple Vision Pro
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- Опубликовано: 13 фев 2024
- Mark Zuckerberg delivered a brutal review of the Apple Vision Pro from his couch, claiming Meta's Quest 3 is a superior mixed reality product. Let's look at everything the haters are saying is wrong with Apple Vision Pro.
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I must say Zukkerburg is starting to feel human and I am scared
they certainly used AI to remove the scales, hisses and vertical blinking from the original video
he is evolving
Billion dollar worth of technical advancement
Same.
He's picking up human traits!
One wrong NPM install on your brain chip, and you'll need to delete your chlidhood memories to make room for that new brain app you downloaded from tpb
Linux BrainOS 2.0
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Imagine if you have a linter baked in your brain.
Erhhh, sorry wrong place for your mug, you should put it right here instead.
Erhh, that is the wrong dress for tonight. Use this instead.
@@Blattieit’s funny now
npm i everything
At least with Apple Vision Pro we can now clearly identify those who are totally committed to iJail
ah yes, you have the solitary confinement as the base iJail. Then you upgrade you get iJail Pro, which is our usual US jail cell. Then we have iJail Pro Max which is Swedish style prison.
Get Tim to Cook it real fast so I can commit 7 crimes and be placed in the iJail Pro Max with Apple Care++.
VR/AR technology is still in its infancy. All tech giants like Apple, Meta, and others have a long way to go before we see a comprehensive product that can be a game-changer. Open models indeed have a pretty good track record, but they carry their own set of challenges too. It'll be interesting to see how the next Generation shakes up.
As someone who does XR software, I would say you are very incorrect about being in it's "infancy". XR is already more advanced than the non-users think, they think about XR in future tense when it's actually already there, until they get to experience it properly. People experiencing it properly for the first time keep telling me "I didn't think it was this good already", and everyone has been mind-blown by it. I don't like Meta's data practices but Quest 3 is very good for the price and after trying to resist it, I now use it when I work from home. Bigscreen Beyond is my favourite for the size and Varjo XR 4 is unbelievable when it comes to image quality. There was NO SCREEN-DOOR AT ALL in my opinion when I used it. The price is only going to come down. Apple's headset is actually just very scammy- costs too much when you get more for less.
At the end of the day, all of these are just attempts to control people and have a new platform to bombard fools with ads.
Most people who have used a Quest or other VR pick it up and then put it down. The separation it creates isn't fun and worse, they're closed ecosystems that tie you down to a single company and whatever the hell they want you to experience.
No thanks. They say fools are easily parted with their money and we can look no further than VR to see how true that is. Hell, I even had a Quest because I wanted to see how cool it was ... it wasn't. It sucked. Sold it and then the person I sold to ended up selling it too. 😂
30 years is a long infancy. You should try gen 5 VR headset from Meta (Quest 2) it is a fun toy
Aka "Tell me you don't have/haven't used any of these new VRs without telling me."
@@vicsamsungtab😮
"But that technology is at least months away" It's funny because it's true
It is funny because it is decades away. Probably more.
Thought of it exactly. Not even funny anymore.
that joke killed me, I need to stop the video so that I could finish laughing.
Julius Caesar has been dead for months.
The neural interface technology is 6 years before consumers like us can use it. This is based on 6 years of proven clinical testing and the year is 2024 so expect to see brain chips on the market in 2030 👍
"For typing or complex tasks, you're gonna want things like hands" - Mark (Totally not an AI) Zuckerberg
dude always try his best to be human and always fail lmao
cracks me up
To be fair from a purely engineering standpoint your hands are a multi-tool that would make a Swiss army knife look like it was designed by a drooling moron. Why wouldn't a space alien be in awed by them?
He was referring to how the Vision over-uses eye tracking as a peripheral. You can type using only your sight. It's a pretty useless feature, which was the point of his comment.
I was human
That Blue Screen of Death at 2:43 spiked my heart rate. Thanks for making me feel alive.
Now imagine that in VR
Nice...now let's see Steve Ballmer's opinion about the Vision Pro, his reaction to the iPhone when it was launched was legendary.
Ballmer was dead wrong in his reaction
You really drank that Apple cool aid.
This is very different. Because Apple was making something new in that case. Something completely different to what other phones were doing. The AVP is essentially the same as all other headsets, just heavier and with more expensive parts.
The vision pro doesnt have a keyboard, so its not good as an email machine.
@@LARVideos Apple was not doing anything different with the iPhone. Just a nicer user interface. Same as in here.
Metas AI model is so good Zukk looked human.. wtf
Getting rid of that alien like flat haircut did wonders actually
@@mapper7310Also getting jacked. He looks very healthy
@@pisse3000 Saying he's jacked might be generous. He's definitely sporting middle-age dad vibes 😅
@@nuance9000 Nah, look at a recent picture of him shirtless. Most dads do NOT look like that.
Great if yours does though, means he'll stick around for a long time.
just want to clarify when zuck talks about neural interfaces, he's talking about a wearable bracelet that monitors muscle activity with EMG to detect different gestures, not brain chips. there are some articles on the company blog about it.
A "wearable bracelet" because a bracelet is usually not wearable? As far as common sense tells me, a bracelet is something that you wear around your wrist since maybe the stone age... and earrings, something (probably a ring) that you wear on your ears. But it's more fancy to call jewels for "neural interfaces". Thanks for decoding the meta jargon from the silicon age.
@@babonneauWearables refers to wearable smart devices, that's pretty broad still so you specify where you wear the device ie "bracelet"
@@babonneau I have ligma
Ohhhhhhh okay, thanks for clarifying
I'm cool with a bracelet, I'd rather skip the ship implanting stuff that's in the horizon
@@babonneau wtf is this tism rant bro LOL why are you going on about earrings
"Limited Dynamic Range, like you're looking through a pair of binoculars"
That's... not what Dynamic Range is.
Yes clearly he is confusing it with field of view.
When you said about adverts being showed in our dreams, it literally reminded me of Futurama
zuck is becoming more and more sentient
Dr Soong is doing great job on him
It's the hair cut
In an alternate universe he built a taxi company.
AI advances over the last year are crazy fast
hilarious profile picture. hahaha.
Can't wait for the day when I can install Arch on my neural interface
*forgets to turn on the firewall and they install adult content in your dreams furry mode*
Gonna rice the shit out of my brain arch instance
I swapped my brain with Arch btw
@AtheistPagan27 lol, whatever dude. I use Arch and I don't do that
@AtheistPagan27 did i mention i use arch
I haven't expected a mention of the C= Amiga, that brought back memories. In fact, the first ever VR experience I had was from a company called "Virtuality", that had Amiga 3000 (I think it was at the time) with a huge headset, and a couple of games.
In one you piloted a combat airplane, and the other you were in a kind of platforms shooting pterodactyls or something like that.
I was clunky, of course, but it was fine. At least, I didn't have any motion sickness from it.
Demand is low, inflation high and competition high.
$500 is pretty low for what it gives. Also, before the Quest headsets, most VR headsets back then were above the thousands.
There's nothing stopping you to get the cheaper $250 Meta Quest 2, although I believe that Meta plans to release a cheaper and better successor this year, called Quest Lite.
@@triopical6884 ngl you're right
But it's 33% of my salary for a quest 2
Just the basic production cost is over $1500... And Apple has never believed in not charging a premium.
So, the lowest it could be is $2500... They also don't have enough supply right now, it seems.
@@triopical6884what it gives is irrelevant if no one wants to take
@@CrispyPotatoChipi got one for 150, they're quite cheap
My favorite part was when Zuck said "I am Zuccerman" and snapped Tim Apple out of the Metaverse.
zuccin
Marker Suckermountain
Marked Rubber Bird
It's zuckin' time!!
ZUCCED
steve jobs with the 'Where's Waldo' drip at 2:37
lets see how "open" this meta is
Quest headsets are open to rift, steam vr, applab, sidequest, android emulators, microsoft game pass, web based VR content, as well as its own native apps, and dev mode.
I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say but so far meta products have been very open.
1 second in and I already feel the fear and terror I always feel when I watch Fireship videos.
same. I was like "Jesus fucking christ I won't sleep tonight"
It do be like that.
You better like Cyberpunk dystopias, you are in one
Zuck actually looked and sounded surprisingly normal in that video. What bizarre alternate universe did I get transported into?
Nah they just used an AI to mimic human behavior.
most likely it's an AI version of him
The Times Square ad joke had me in stitches. Brilliant humour 🤝👏
I too wait for the day to get ads about lightspeed briefs in my dream
Actually the Neural interface they're working on is an ESG wristwatch to replace the VR controllers not "Mind Control" as you're assuming.
*EMG oh my what have i done
* A watch that injects a chip into you on the first wear
wtf is ESG
@@sabhyasoni4485 Ask BlackRock.
something that makes companies bankrupt@@sabhyasoni4485
Bro is acting like they didn't introduce legs for your virtual Metaverse character as a feature a few months ago.
Legs been introduced by the open market long before that which is ironically part of Meta's success with VR and they are not ignorant of this even though they try to pretend like they are at times.
Being negative about new things makes you cool and superior
I'm sure Mrs. Fireship would be smittened by 1:12 😅
Thank you for remembering Amiga ... RIP
Thanks for mentioning the wonderful Amiga!
That’s the computer that made me the most happy.
I used to hate Meta as a corporation but my love for gimmicky technology won me over. I'm gonna have a Quest 3 eventually 😅
The neural interface mentioned is for the upcoming AR meta raybans and its a smartwatch with a secondary function that can detect when you send signals to your fingers for more precise actions than hand tracking alone.
Open VR? Does that mean we will be able to run Quest exclusive games on PC?
or use it without a meta account...?
@@Shiroikage98 100% This too.
Metas platform is getting more closed off by the day. Pretending meta is any different from Apple in this regard is laughable. Meta is a far more serious player in the vr gaming space but apples headset is miles ahead on a technical level especially in terms of the display color accuracy and PPI. You can still sideload games onto the quest but they’ve been making that harder, making you register as a developer which is similar to how people circumvent apple’s restrictions on iOS and I’m sure their vr restrictions too.
Neither platform is remotely close to being open. However if Mark doesn’t see where Apple is trouncing them right now then he’s delusional and meta has no hope of competing with them in the future as their headsets only get cheaper. People see the quests as gaming devices, Apple is trying to get people to see the Vision Pro as a lifestyle device and in that way they are completely running away with the lead in terms of being seen as a true productivity device or even tablet/laptop replacement for some people. I think Apple needs to devote more focus to gaming because vr gaming is definitely the most compelling aspect of VR but I can see why they’ve focused more on entertainment, to get broader appeal and that broad appeal will translate to more and more sales as they can bring the cost down.
he means stuff like being able to sideload apps/games and being able to use the quest as a pc vr headset
@@KdkjdjewerdnxaI have to AVP. it’s useless for productivity till they add pointer support. The only way to get a mouse is to mirror a mac (and on my mac, the pointer is super laggy. Like 1fps). It’s stupid that they artificially lock out Bluetooth mice as there is no way to use the built in productivity / office apps
I don’t know why this isn’t brought up more.
Thanks for the Amiga acknowledgement. The 1980's era computer history stories often overlook that the most innovative and forward thinking technology of the time was found in the Amiga. Sadly, winning the game wasn't a matter of who manufactured the best computer and OS, but came down to who could manufacture the best marketing hype (and Jobs was a master of marketroid hype, especially when hyping himself). in example: When Atlanta was making it's bid for the '96 Olympics, Georgia Tech created an elaborate, state of the art, multi screen, multi-projector, multi media promotional presentation run from multiple synchronized random access videodisc players with multiple synchronized digital audio channels for multiple translations. All of those elements were controlled by a single Amiga2500. The video screens were arranged in a semi-circle around a translucent 3D relief model of Atlanta which was backlit by simple still graphics from a Mac to highlight the venue locations featured in the videos. Again, a single Amiga2500, with it's multi processor design and multi tasking, priority preemptive operating system controlled and synchronized every device and every element of the multimedia extravaganza, including telling the dumb terminal Mac which still graphic to display. The sophisticated presentation reportedly played a big role in Atlanta hosting the 1996 Olympics. Now guess which computer system got ZERO mention in the press and which was portrayed as the brains of the setup??
I had an Atari ST. Went to a 286 in the early 90s and it was like going backwards with DOS etc
Commodore's management also did everything in its power to make the Amiga fail past its initial release. If I recall correctly most of the engineering team just got laid off at one point. That company had some really talented people working at it but its upper management was wholly unprepared to succeed in the late 80s / early 90s IT market.
In example -> for example
(i.e. means "id est"/"that is")
I can tell just about how old you are from this comment
The Amiga was good at the time but the free stolen games made it very popular
imagine getting ads while you sleep
Well, am going over the grid if that's the case.
The neural interface he was talking about was referring the ctrl lab neural bracelets their working on. Basically a wristband that reads your muscular movements to bypass a need for cameras for handtracking.
Yes, and there is also technology that utilizes the fact that even you think of a word subconsciously you verbally, very subtly, move muscles in your throat. The very tiny vibrations are enough to determine what your thinking of. If I'm not mistaken this Tech was first introduced by an MIT student who created the technology for his thesis about 4 or 5 years ago.
Good job mentioning AMIGA! You're a man on culture👍👍👍
"that feature alone is worth 3500 bucks" ... tru facts. A hot girl will cost you WAAAAAY more than that
and paper bags will cost the environment much more
lol
Paper comes from trees so it's eco@@mrkiky
@@lucabernardini3975 No it's not because it leads to deforestation.
@@mrkiky do you know you can recycle paper? I'm sure you have polyester clothes, not recyclable so don't be a moralist
0:19 - extremely disappointed this wasn’t the picture of Linus
got jumpscared in the first 3 seconds wtf
Everybody gangsta until you recieve a call from Mark 💀
OMG you mentioned Amiga
thanks for mentioning Amiga, way ahead of other two.
The Amiga reference made me cry. I'm friggin old.
The fact u this know your a legend
bro had to save himself last second 1:13
My brain is already full of bugs let alone when installing the neural interface
The mention of Amiga at 2:42 caught me off guard 😀
Windows was the open model ? since when? Since they integrated ubuntu?
I guess they mean open marketplace as opposed to iOS's walled garden. But MacOS lives in an open marketplace, and that marketplace was not invented by the IBM PC or its clones; such a market existed with all home computers that came before it.
2:42 Amiga? That's a sarcasm 90s joke for you kids.
Best one of your videos by far! Mate, you put my in tears 😂
"Bullish on vr but bearish on brain chips"😂😂😂
Thank you, RUclips, for recommending this video. You earned my sub in the first 2 minutes.
The best AR device is glasses that have eye tracking, that when you look at the tv, you can change channels with just the tap of your fingers. No need for a remote. Your eyes are a mouse, but for your outside environment.
you described laziness at its finest
@@mohammedalmahdialjeafry8155 Thats literally the motivation for like 99% of tech products and innovations though. Convenience.
Mkbhd said the main missing feature of the apple vr is social interactian. And I was like: flr years we laughted at metaverse, meanwhile they had the good idea with terribly wrong marketing and tach
“Limited dynamic range like you’re looking through a pair of binoculars” I don’t think you know what dynamic range is lmao
Wow you sir are epic, that writing, sarcasm, storytelling and humor. In your face comedy with a meaningful narrative.
Well done! Please keep doing this.
Cheers!
I personally think that aesthetic and easy to ware products like the xreal glasses and viture are future. They just need to remove the need for cables
viture neckband alleviates this though
If they achieve the rayban meta glasses form factor vr has a chance if not it will continue a niche product
"For complex tasks you gonna want this like hands" - what
Until now those are only on my mobile device with these devices those ads are in my brain
Quest 2 hand tracking is pretty good now, I've seen incremental improvements with the last few updates. You do need the curtains open or a a light on though for it to work. I only use the controllers now in games that don't yet support hand tracking.
I think what Zuckaritas referred to with "neural interface" is the wristband..., but who knows, I certainly don't.
Zukkerburg is like frieza from DragonBall, evolving to his humanoid from his lizard form.
I loaned a Quest 2 for a couple of weeks, and I was pretty amazed in all honesty, especially considering the relatively cheap price. There's lots of great mod support also, which means you can play many old PC games like Doom, Return to Castle Wolfenstein in VR. It's actually worth getting just for that alone.
It's honestly nice to see Zucc doing normal things, like if he didn't founded Facebook, i could totally see him becoming a tech reviewer like marcus brownlee
using oculus quest with your hand instead of the controller is like Parkinson simulator
I still have my Amiga 500
I remember a time when simply having a cell phone was considered crazy/weird as hell. Times change..quick
"that tech is at least months away" 2:33 lol
What's the hell's going on with meta's stock? It's on a tear for some reason.
Old stock graph, is fine now
Artificial inflation
Like in a bad or good way? I'm not an expert with stocks or anything but if its going up, maybe its the market rallying for Zuck to announce their counterproduct?
@@thelifewithnate It's going down, almost worthless at this point.
Huge jump in stock price from a very good earnings call on Feb 1 and announcement of dividends for stock holders
"at least months away"
Your use cases ..and.. the mention at 1:09 about your hot wife -- *instant Fireship classics.*
I think the main thing that's missing in VR is focal depth. It sends different signals to your different eyes to look 3D, but doesn't allow you to refocus your eyes to see things at different distances.
Although, maybe it does and the ones I've been using are outdated.
Quests's open model? that forces you to register before you can even start using the thing?
Meta has been surprisingly open in the open source community. Think React.js, Llama LLM. I'm quite happy with their direction. They know that Microsoft with OpenAI is completely closed off, Apple is closed off, so they HAVE to be open to survive.
I mean he did say Windows is an open operating system...
Apple does the same tho
If you compare it to Apple, everything has an open model
@@MK73DSyeah that whole paragraph was kinda wild, interoperable would probably be more accurate, it certainly isn't open though lol
It's curious that Mark says Meta is going to be the open model, but Oculus Quest headsets aren't as versatile as he says. Users need to create a developer account and do some steps to install apps to the glasses
That means it's open. It's up to the user to do all that stuff because meta allows it, but also acknowledges that it may be risky, so it's not a part of quest os by default. Same as using any PC really.
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 I wouldn't say it's open if you need a developer account for it. Thrillseeker got SteamVR to run on his Apple Vision Pro and iirc he also needed to go through multiple steps to be able to make it possible. Just because it's "possible", doesn't mean it's open.
@@ferryhmm it is open when the manufacturer actually gives you the tools to do it. apple does not give any tools to use steamvr. thrillseeker just hacked it or used a third party app i assume
It could be more open, but I'd say as an Android device, it's very open.
@ferryhmm it takes literal second to make a developer account on Quest, then it's yours to do as you please. If it was closed, you wouldn't have that option at all. Like with the Apple headset.. they don't even include the USB C port unless you want to pay an extra $300, which means you actually have to be a developer, or it's not even close to worth having it.
I did get nostalgic at the surprise Amiga mention
2:15 he is referring to Neural Wristbands that are in development
I also do agree that brain chips probably far outweigh wearing giant goggles
you said AMIGA,... lmfao
The elegance of Steve Jobs was his focus on simplicity and practicality of his products. This AR/VR stuff is still in nascent stage it needs the technology advances to make it practical for every ordinary person.
Honestly Zuck makes a good point seeing he could just jack up the price on the new quest device but seems like he’s determined to keep it affordable
*Let's appreciate Fireship for posting two videos in two days*
One of the best weeks of my life
I as a introvert would consider to buy it if I could create my custom friend avaters.
As an introvert, would you extrovert yourself with avatars?
Uhm.. don't google it.. the Internet is NOT making any VR avatar for.. purposes... shhh
From one introvert to another, focus on what you want all the time and it is a law that you will get it
To replace your friends with anime girls... smart.
@@watherby29 yes... or not.
Truly the Biggie/2Pac beef of our time.
Wait, wtf is open about Microsoft and Meta???? Am I missing something?
Not sure about Microsoft, but Meta's Llama 2 LLM model is more open than its competitors from Microsoft, Google and Twitter atleast
Nah I actually get it, MS and Meta have hundreds of actually useful things that are open source. Meta alone dropped Zstd and Llama2 which are both awesome, and Microsoft's opening up of the dotnet eco system has been great honestly. Like take my Quest 2, I run third party stores natively on it with custom patched apps, mods for games, connection to my desktop and their APIs are switching to OpenXR rather than custom locked down implementations.
They aren't close to completely open but no organisation is and compared to Apple they are as open source as Linux is to Windows.
@@zombieguy I guess you're right, the only open thing I can think of about apple is cups
When he said Microsoft he meant Windows vs MacOS
From all the 500 videos I watched about Vision Pro, this is the first one that criticized the Passthrough. Every single other video praises it as the best passthrough yet. Now I'm intrigued.
A couple people have critizised it actually. When you don't have good lighting, you get constantly missclicks.
Same. Seems like that was THE big feature that everyone was saying they innovated on
Fireship went full savage mode 💀
Someone mentioned Amiga!! Kudos :)
VR will have its place, but it will be more of a niche thing. Not everyone will want to play in virtual reality.
AR will be what replaces screens, and most people will use it when it's comfortable and easy, like glasses or contact lenses.
When we get to holograms, VR and AR will merge and work together according to what the user and the tool in use require.
Microsoft was on the right track, but sadly they gave up development
@@maythesciencebewithyou they didnt gave up they are changing it for military use
it's arguably more than a niche thing already. I agree in the future AR will be the main focus
I would say it will be like computers vs smartphones for endusers. At a professional level VR will be huge!@@d-rockanomaly9243
that is such a weird video from Zuckerberg, but it's kind of fire that he just thought "that's fine I am gonna post that"
Not a big fan of Zuck but I can see he'd be kinda sick of people falling over backwards for apple products that lately have more and more often been neatly wrapped apple versions of existing tech.
@@masondegaulle5731 yeah it's just wild because I didn't expect zuck to say apple fanboys, must've installed some new drivers
@@hi-ld4gg SassyZuck driver BETA
and dont forget that it costs 7 times as much just because it's from Apple@@masondegaulle5731
Along with their planned obsolescence that they attach to all their products that they got dinged 100 mill in europe for. Apple is overated af and their fanboys are lame as hell @@masondegaulle5731
What happened with the whole Metaverse idea?
It's about creating this like screens in a shared environment with no wearable devices
I swear the photo of mark at the start got me nightmares 😢
when the imposter is sus!😳
that was what i thought when i saw it tho
You didn't even go to sleep yet.
Did Apple's closed model really win though? Apple makes the most money from phones because they're expensive, but the majority of phones in the world are Android.
because android sells more in poor countries. when one of those folks from those android dominated countries immigrate to the west with better purchasing power the first thing they do is buy an iphone as it's a status indicator (although it's a false indication) and then they keep grinding to buy their first german car.
You get a thumbs up just for the mention of Amiga / retro love
This guy never disapoints to deliver just right amount of anxiety we didn't need :) Thanks
Meta’s increasingly closed off vr platform sucks just as bad if not worse. I’m not a big fan of either headset tbh but mark is delusional if he doesn’t see that Apple is blowing them out of the water when it comes to the productivity aspect of the meta quest that they pushed so hard in the past few years. No one uses a quest for work because it inhibits you far more than it provides any tangible benefit, Apple has done a good job at making working between Mac, iPad, iPhone, etc as seamless as it could be for a gen 1 device. It is a walled garden approach but if you’re a part of that ecosystem it is a much better experience.
However Apple doesn’t seem at all interested in seriously competing with vr platforms for games, just movies and work which is a huge missed opportunity and definitely where metas platform will lead for some time just because they’re the only inside out tracked gaming focused headset that’s popular.
We'll see about gaming; they do have the Metal APIs and the high-end M2s and M3s have pretty good graphical specs. I guess it'll depend on how hard it is to write for.
Ridiculous. We won't see McDonald's dream adverts until 1st quarter 2025.
I’m just not hot on VR period. I don’t see myself buying any headset at all from any company. There’s no killer application or use case that makes me want to spend money on it.
0:43 Where is this? Washington or Oregon?
"You're gonna need things like hands"
bruh
I wasn't a huge fan of the Apple Vision Pro, but the Zucc not liking it has really made me reconsider.