Why so many distros? The Weird History of Linux

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  • @timberwoof
    @timberwoof 2 года назад +711

    "Distro" means "Distribution."
    It's so obvious to Linux users that defining the term seems unnecessary. But to an outsider, that simple definition helps a lot of understanding.

    • @tonyramirez5707
      @tonyramirez5707 2 года назад +101

      Most of the difficulty from learning IT comes from everything being abbreviated fight me!

    • @otesunki
      @otesunki 2 года назад +20

      @@tonyramirez5707 why should i fight a fact =V

    • @bettercalldelta
      @bettercalldelta Год назад +7

      @@tonyramirez5707 facts

    • @nogoodgod4915
      @nogoodgod4915 Год назад +16

      ​@@tonyramirez5707 I'm learning frontend and now I have to decide if I want to create a SPA or not. If so do I use CRA but miss out on SSR and use CSR instead. Or go with a framework and create MPA with SSR.

    • @leviathan5207
      @leviathan5207 3 месяца назад

      To be fair, what else could it mean? The meaning can be inferred from context alone.

  • @vikashtripathi9184
    @vikashtripathi9184 3 года назад +1160

    When it came to version control controversy Linus said "Fine I'll do it myself"

    • @jfbeam
      @jfbeam 3 года назад +65

      He was _perfectly_ happy using BK. [as was I, and thousands of other people] It was Andrew Tridgell that ruined it for everyone by continuing to dick around with cloning / reverse engineering bitkeeper (network protocol) even AFTER agreeing to stop. (I was never around Linus, but I'm told he was "pissed".) Kernel development slowed / stalled for a few months while Linus was forced to invent his own SCM. (no surprise git is very much like bitkeeper.)
      [There were lawyers involved. I was part of the evidence against him. Andrew was stomping on many a wiener. His "client" didn't act at all like a real "bk". When I set triggers to block his "client", he started mimicing the real "bk". The only way he'd know how is by using the real client -- a license violation -- or sniffing the traffic of someone else -- also illegal. Bitkeeper eventually took my trick to the extreme... "bkd" verifying the client's license.]

    • @Runeite51
      @Runeite51 Год назад +19

      @@jfbeam screw that, I'm glad git was made.

    • @Ne-vc5pm
      @Ne-vc5pm 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@jfbeamwait, were you involved in kernel dev?

    • @jfbeam
      @jfbeam 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@Ne-vc5pm I'm not Linus, Alan, or Greg, but yes, I was involved in kernel development at the time, but so were thousands of other people. Tridge's antics inconvenienced a great many people, including Linus who now had to go create his own SCM, and the entire linux kernel community for the months Linus was off dicking around with SCM's and not maintaining the kernel.

    • @Ne-vc5pm
      @Ne-vc5pm 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@jfbeam wow thats so cool. But why Tridgell started to clone bit keeper? In wikipedia article its says that it was because some metadata was only available to commercial users. Is it true?

  • @FranLMSP
    @FranLMSP 3 года назад +7018

    And remember kids: "Free" is about "freedom", not price

    • @MaximilianBerkmann
      @MaximilianBerkmann 3 года назад +190

      Depends on the context, in the case of distros it's usually both (with some exceptions of course).

    • @eksortso
      @eksortso 3 года назад +84

      True enough, but it gets complicated after that. The GPL logo which appears around 2:19 was made for version 3 of the license. But Linus disagreed with that version, and switched the license to Linux to be v2 only, so that it could not be released under GPL v3.

    • @dionyzus2909
      @dionyzus2909 3 года назад +39

      yeah, gnu's general public license is very permissive about using the softwares licensed with it for commercial purposes. That's part of the "freedom" in it (:

    • @Sitwayen
      @Sitwayen 3 года назад +19

      You do not get freedom with sex.

    • @FranLMSP
      @FranLMSP 3 года назад +105

      @@Sitwayen maybe you are in a toxic relationship

  • @alemalohe
    @alemalohe 3 года назад +899

    8:11 " He created git!" - Lol why not right

  • @KristherLouisVidal
    @KristherLouisVidal 3 года назад +3496

    Linus created this as a hobby. While I can't even remember basic email pattern for regular expressions

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 3 года назад +134

      Don’t use an RE to parse e-mail addresses.

    • @hellfire92837
      @hellfire92837 3 года назад +19

      @@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Why not?

    • @comradepeter87
      @comradepeter87 3 года назад +32

      @@Myrkvi_ holy shit lol! What happens if I send an e-mail with that e-mail address, from a supported provider, to someone with Gmail which can't understand such e-mail addresses?

    • @chaminda512
      @chaminda512 3 года назад +1

      You don't have to so badly

    • @clp9601
      @clp9601 3 года назад +5

      RE sucks bruh.

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
    @lawrencedoliveiro9104 3 года назад +1627

    8:12 He was actually forced to create Git. What happened was that BitKeeper was made available as freeware to the Linux developer community, hedged around with a great deal of caveats. One of these was “no reverse engineering”. Torvalds felt for some reason he could agree to these terms on behalf of the entire Open Source community. So when Andrew Tridgell was commissioned (by the FSF, I think) to reverse-engineer BitKeeper’s formats and protocols, Torvalds ordered him to stop. To which he responded in the predictable way. So Larry McVoy gave notice of the termination of the BitKeeper licence. Torvalds went off to ruminate on things for a couple of weeks, and came back with the beginnings of Git.
    And the rest, as they say, is history.

    • @jaimeduncan6167
      @jaimeduncan6167 3 года назад +53

      Yep pretty good summary. There is always someone that believes they have the right to copy other people ideas, even if there is a accord not to do so.

    • @sujeewarathnaweera
      @sujeewarathnaweera 3 года назад +2

      Remind me

    • @godfather7339
      @godfather7339 3 года назад +123

      ​@@jaimeduncan6167 whats wrong with copying other peoples ideas? Ideas are random, and nobody has the right to claim is as their own.
      if you are talking about labor, than you are right, even though it is inefficient, and we all will have to write our own RUclips from scratch.

    • @jaimeduncan6167
      @jaimeduncan6167 3 года назад +12

      @@godfather7339 Ideas are not Radom, ideas requiere a lot of effort. For example any coding monkey can program an API, not everybody can design a good one. Any coding monkey can program an SQL parser, not everyone can design SQL. Any idiot can get windows 95 a program it for arm, and get an stupid phone with the windows interface running on an old. 320x200 miniature screen, not everyone can stop and think and create the Palm interface. In fact, you wanting to copy other people ideas show how valuable they are. Also ideas are risky, coding or building very little. Even today, decades later the ideas behind Unix are still guiding the technological progress. So much for random. Clearly ideas can't be protected forever, but they need to be protected for a while from people the subtract and copy.

    • @iamlordstarbuilder5595
      @iamlordstarbuilder5595 2 года назад +96

      @@jaimeduncan6167 ideas are not property. You can’t (ethically) own an idea. What happens when someone else stumbles on “your” idea independently?

  • @gradientO
    @gradientO 3 года назад +2655

    Next video idea: filesystems exFAT, EXT4, FAT32, NTFS, etc

  • @GiDaOne
    @GiDaOne 3 года назад +160

    Gotta love the subtitles sometimes. "led to a period known as the eunuchs wars"

    • @kausarbangash007
      @kausarbangash007 3 года назад +2

      😂

    • @GiDaOne
      @GiDaOne 3 года назад +9

      @@perforongo9078 I couldn't find any link to the word "eunuch", just that Unix was a play on "Multics".

    • @character640p
      @character640p Год назад

      1:00

    • @robertnagy3942
      @robertnagy3942 9 месяцев назад

      People that are into tech are often Eunuchs tho, we are unable to get a girlfriend so it's accurate. Intelligence is the best birth control

  • @karaway2117
    @karaway2117 3 года назад +1344

    "won't be a big professional thing"
    lol no

    • @ClifffSVK
      @ClifffSVK 3 года назад +146

      The community: "I'm about to build this man's whole career"

    • @trapido0296
      @trapido0296 3 года назад +11

      @@ClifffSVK But actually they started it LOL

    • @rosaleslem
      @rosaleslem 3 года назад +15

      Narrator: It did. It was brutal.

    • @prabothmalsha4092
      @prabothmalsha4092 3 года назад

      This comment has 666 likes

    • @pham3383
      @pham3383 2 года назад +2

      Hobby programmers on the way to make every backbone important code for the industry:

  • @andresramos7965
    @andresramos7965 3 года назад +928

    This moment when you realize, that this legend create a second project worth millions, only for manage his first big project worth millions

    • @comradepeter87
      @comradepeter87 3 года назад +130

      *billions ...? Considering a lot of world depends on it.

    • @poiiihy
      @poiiihy 3 года назад

      lol

    • @namesurname6294
      @namesurname6294 3 года назад +24

      ​@@comradepeter87 1000 million = 1 billion so I think saying "millions" can also mean "billions"

    • @guruthecodershorts791
      @guruthecodershorts791 3 года назад +72

      @@namesurname6294 bruh

    • @StonkeyKong
      @StonkeyKong 3 года назад +100

      @@namesurname6294 that’s like saying tens of dollars can mean a trillion dollars because 100,000,000,000 tens == 1 trillion.

  • @daffaharyadi9647
    @daffaharyadi9647 3 года назад +2350

    Weaponized assault Penguin is an accurate representation of linux community

    • @baggier
      @baggier 3 года назад +137

      WAP

    • @deoxal7947
      @deoxal7947 3 года назад +69

      Linus saying he didn't want to call it Linux because it was quite egotistical is quite funny. I wonder if his ego grew because he yells at people in emails enough that it makes news sometimes.
      When speaking on video he seems quite nice though.

    • @iyxan23
      @iyxan23 3 года назад +96

      I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
      Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
      There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

    • @motoryzen
      @motoryzen 3 года назад +18

      @Yes Yes Some do, but I wont chastise anyone for calling Linux mint..just Linux though...any more or less for the fact that I won't be rude for someone calling my Civic si just a car. (shrugs)

    • @thefrogge
      @thefrogge 3 года назад +39

      @Yes Yes It's a copypasta

  • @TheAcidMotion
    @TheAcidMotion 3 года назад +45

    You should do more of these historical topics. I think people really dig it and I do so too. There are so many projects and great people behind them and amazing stories from the history of technology that deserve to be known.

    • @diannadimambro2188
      @diannadimambro2188 2 года назад +1

      Yes! Im a computer science major and stumbled onto this because my teacher wants us to learn about the history. stumbling onto this video, its really so cool

  • @michamaciejewski8895
    @michamaciejewski8895 3 года назад +2695

    Pls next : Story of git !

    • @sadhlife
      @sadhlife 3 года назад +44

      True, would be a great video, would also want to know about things like subversion and mercurial

    • @maycodes
      @maycodes 3 года назад +2

      +1

    • @r-ea
      @r-ea 3 года назад +1

      bump

    • @haraldhwick
      @haraldhwick 3 года назад +1

      Bamp

    • @VividVerseVentures
      @VividVerseVentures 3 года назад +11

      check the commits

  • @queenannsrevenge100
    @queenannsrevenge100 3 года назад +262

    I love what Linus said about creating git; he used concurrent versions system (CVS) as an example what NOT to do, and when in doubt on a decision point, made the exact opposite decision from CVS. 😀

    • @ebrelus7687
      @ebrelus7687 2 года назад +12

      Finding right by excluding what's wrong and picking what's left? Sounds like a critical mind. To find a solution you first need to acknowledge being in an error. Have a nice day

    • @kjgoebel7098
      @kjgoebel7098 2 года назад +22

      That's funny. I wish someone had told me that about ten years ago. I delayed learning Git for a long time because my only previous experience with version control software was CVS. If someone had told me it was the opposite of CVS by design, I would have wised up sooner :)

    • @sabin97
      @sabin97 2 года назад +5

      @@ebrelus7687
      yeah. cvs was the error.

    • @ebrelus7687
      @ebrelus7687 2 года назад +4

      @@sabin97 Cool. I'm just thinking that paradigm of going opposite of a mistake won't work universally. May be much more worthy when pivoting from big mistakes but there are still cases of good things with small problems & their possible solutions.
      But it's often easier to start fresh & discover unknown possibilities where nobody looks than fix some old complexity everyone is hitting their heads at without second thoughts.

    • @sabin97
      @sabin97 2 года назад +6

      @@ebrelus7687 when there are only two possible choices, and you know for a fact that one is wrong, you choose the other. it could ALSO be wrong, but if that's the case then it means there's no right choice, because both are wrong.
      there are design decisions that are unavoidable.
      you cant simply create something magical.
      linus didnt just get the source code of cvs and went on to change everything.
      he started out fresh.
      and in binary decisions, he made the choice opposite to what cvs did.
      yeah. he was creating a version control system.
      A LOT of the design decisions are the same. because it's the same sort of thing.

  • @drakegabrielvereto
    @drakegabrielvereto 3 года назад +1142

    Watching it from a GNU/Linux based OS, a big respect goes to you, bro

    • @katech6020
      @katech6020 3 года назад +167

      Watching it from Arch btw

    • @frenches1995
      @frenches1995 3 года назад +142

      Watched on android so I count as well I guess

    • @ShaferHart
      @ShaferHart 3 года назад +19

      @@frenches1995 that's probably his case too. He's a poseur.

    • @Windfarmer
      @Windfarmer 3 года назад +59

      Android isn't GNU/Linux, it uses the Linux kernel but doesn't have the GNU components

    • @googleuser9422
      @googleuser9422 3 года назад +6

      @@Windfarmer I think it does. If you install termux you can use those programs

  • @JOJOSHgaming7514
    @JOJOSHgaming7514 3 года назад +62

    Dennis Richie,
    Ken Thompson,
    Richard Stallman,
    Linus Torvalds
    Legends that created the heart(engine) of computer programming.

    • @miladini1
      @miladini1 3 года назад +3

      how about bill gates and steve jobs?

    • @hehexd2913
      @hehexd2913 3 года назад +21

      @@miladini1 no lol. theyre barely even programmers.

    • @andreicapi3535
      @andreicapi3535 3 года назад +6

      @@miladini1 dennis richie and ken tompson created the c programming langyage and unix. Linux , windows and macos are built with c .

    • @miladini1
      @miladini1 3 года назад +3

      @@andreicapi3535 that's right. But if we wanna credit Torvalds, then I guess Gates and Jobs also equally if not more deserve respect.

    • @xpressionlesstrap
      @xpressionlesstrap Год назад +1

      ​@@miladini1should've also credited Wozniak then, he is the one who actually designed and created early Apple machines.

  • @vuelancer
    @vuelancer 3 года назад +143

    Seriously, you did a hard work on making this video!

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
    @lawrencedoliveiro9104 3 года назад +131

    5:38 That “security” aspect was a bit of a joke in the early days, when Red Hat installers tended to load on everything by default. A client of mine got hacked through a vulnerability in the SunRPC service, which we weren’t even using.

  • @bilalmaleq
    @bilalmaleq 3 года назад +556

    The community of Linux is so diverse that almost any discussion can turn controversial. The way you covered this topic is no less of an artistic genius!
    I use arch btw

    • @jousis_
      @jousis_ 3 года назад +89

      What is controversial ? All distros are welcome
      ...to try (and fail) to be as good as debian :D

    • @heckbatglizzy
      @heckbatglizzy 3 года назад +8

      @@jousis_ bad* shitian* hamgermbur*

    • @bluesillybeard
      @bluesillybeard 3 года назад +14

      I use Pop_OS, and every computer I own runs some kind of Ubuntu.
      It is a very diverse community indeed, ranging from random people who want A Minecraft server (that's how I started) to people who commit to the kernel regularily(not me lol, I barely know C or C++)

    • @GimOA
      @GimOA 2 года назад

      what's an arch

    • @Chase92488
      @Chase92488 2 года назад +1

      average alpine enjoyer

  • @benruss4130
    @benruss4130 2 года назад +102

    SteamOS is actually Arch these days. A couple years back Valve split to Arch, and that was *before* this video was made.

    • @Deontjie
      @Deontjie 2 года назад +10

      If Linux gave up on this splitting thing 15 years ago, it would have been the most populous operating system on PC's. But no, every bored nerd thinks he can do better. Meanwhile Microshit laughs all the way to the bank.

    • @benruss4130
      @benruss4130 Год назад +19

      @@Deontjie I mostly disagree. Early Linux was not a legitimate competitor to early windows, which is when windows became the default. And nowadays Linux is superior to windows because of it's splits. It allowed and continues to allow devs an arena that rewards performance improvements and alternative approaches that often wind up superior then the predecessors. Yes, all of the distros are a bit overwhelming to the new-to-linux, but they have enabled Linux to become head and shoulders above any other OS.

    • @jahinzee
      @jahinzee Год назад +4

      @@benruss4130 In addition, there are a lot of projects and tools being worked on nowadays, like Flatpak, Pipewire, etc., that aim to make Linux application development more distro-agnostic and accessible. It's not 100% there yet, but I feel like we're surely getting closer by the day :)

  • @Ma1ne2
    @Ma1ne2 3 года назад +58

    This video man ... your channel is awesome! Stopped multiple times in between to study the amazing info graphics! Keep up the great work, I love your channel and your focus on intermediate to advanced programmers!

    • @codelif
      @codelif 3 года назад +5

      i like his channel especially the "100 seconds" series. Many people say that he teaches too fast in them but that's not the point. "100 second" series is not supposed teach you a language. It's to teach you what language to learn.

  • @sayanghosh6996
    @sayanghosh6996 3 года назад +73

    2:18 this would be the biggest blunder in this video according to me. Linux is released under GPL2 and not 3. When GPL3 was released torvalds clearly rejected upgrading to GPL3 because he doesn't agree with the license.

  • @shaileshaanand
    @shaileshaanand 3 года назад +338

    Thanks for making Linux videos

    • @soham7510
      @soham7510 3 года назад

      Bhai maine tujhe kahi dekha hai

    • @SriansuChoudhary
      @SriansuChoudhary 3 года назад +1

      @@soham7510 he has a yt channel of his own - shailesh explains.

    • @soham7510
      @soham7510 3 года назад

      @@SriansuChoudhary okay, maybe then

  • @NDHFilms
    @NDHFilms 2 года назад +59

    Thank you for giving proper credit to Stallman and the GNU Project, a lot of people overlook that.

    • @MichaelMossmanNZ
      @MichaelMossmanNZ Месяц назад +1

      Yes, I was waiting for someone to mention GNU =)

  • @elliott8175
    @elliott8175 2 года назад +137

    Correction 0:49 - "Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie were creating the Unix operating system".
    Ken Thompson wrote the (original) operating system solo in 3 weeks ... in assembly. He thought he was going to be be fired for doing so, because Bell Labs was told not to work on operating systems anymore. A couple years later Dennis Ritchie invented C (built on top of Ken's own language, B), Ken then tried rewriting Unix in C a couple of times, providing feedback about the language to Dennis - He didn't like using the language until Dennis added structures.
    Because C and Unix were both invented at Bell Labs, and were (after a few years) closely entwined, lots of people seem to confuse who invented what, and sadly often leave out how significant Ken's contribution was.

    • @Ryan-in3ot
      @Ryan-in3ot Год назад +1

      the real one left out is Doug McIlroy

    • @elliott8175
      @elliott8175 Год назад

      @@Ryan-in3ot Yeah, I think so. Ken spoke very highly of him in one of his interviews, saying exactly that. However, I haven't been able to find out anything about him. Do you have any links?

    • @Ryan-in3ot
      @Ryan-in3ot Год назад

      @@elliott8175 There is a talk about the origin of Unix where he, Kernighan, and others are featured. ruclips.net/video/l03CF9_078I/видео.html
      And I have seen him at other such talks (online, not in person)

  • @Kodeb8
    @Kodeb8 3 года назад +4

    This video is actually a very good, short, and easy to understand introduction to linux. I think I'm gonna send this to anyone that asks me what linux is.

  • @Hobbitstomper
    @Hobbitstomper 3 года назад +140

    "While grandpa was dropping acid at Woodstock" - lines I never thought I'd heard in a developer video🤣

    • @dontbotherreading
      @dontbotherreading 3 года назад +3

      *while, but yeah, no, a lot of software guys like weed, psychedelics, at least ones that I personally know.

    • @Hobbitstomper
      @Hobbitstomper 3 года назад +9

      ​@@dontbotherreading We devs stay away from hallucinogenics, we head straight for the psychostimulant stuff, like Ritalin and Adderall 😜

    • @hexerei02021
      @hexerei02021 3 года назад +1

      @@Hobbitstomper why not both

    • @comradepeter87
      @comradepeter87 3 года назад +2

      @@hexerei02021 You can, but only once.

    • @hexerei02021
      @hexerei02021 3 года назад

      @@comradepeter87 Human body can take a lot more than that.

  • @tetst_54546
    @tetst_54546 3 года назад +65

    I started using GNU/Linux in 2007, and I never looked back. My first distro was Aurox, which I only used for few weeks. Then there was the mighty Ubuntu 7.04 and few versions after that. However, my life has truly changed when I started using Debian. Since 2010, all my computers used Debian and I absolutely love it till today. It only gets better. I was very fortunate to always be allowed using Linux at work.

    • @bLd321
      @bLd321 2 года назад +7

      Ah, mighty 7.04 Feisty Fawn. My first distro and the one that encouraged me to move from Windows. Was using Ubuntu until 10.04 when Canonical decided they wanna be a new Apple and moved window buttons to the left side. Lucid Lynx forced me to learn how to install Debian and today, twelve years later, I'm still in love with Debian.

    • @tetst_54546
      @tetst_54546 2 года назад +11

      @Mr. Unknown He only tried some ancient version which was difficult to instal and gave up.

  • @BenKadel
    @BenKadel 3 года назад +22

    This video was incredible and so insightful! This is a brilliant summary of the story of linux and really helped highlight why linux and the distros are the way they are! Another quality video sir!

  • @foreducation408
    @foreducation408 3 года назад +4

    This is such a helpful video, for beginners or for anyone that is interested about Linux, thanks for all the hardwork.

  • @Aaronmoreno
    @Aaronmoreno 3 года назад +56

    Another amazing one! Love this history

  • @gregoriodia
    @gregoriodia 2 года назад +5

    There is a great book that Linus Torvalds co-authored called "Just for Fun: a story of an accidental revolution" - that describes early days of Linux and how that later influenced Torvald's life. A super well written book that is not technical at all.

  • @sylvaniathehacker
    @sylvaniathehacker 3 года назад +276

    Distro doesn't matter as long as you do something worthy in your life

    • @hdluktv3593
      @hdluktv3593 3 года назад +34

      And you have a fedora profile picture... xD

    • @ሰላምሰይጣን
      @ሰላምሰይጣን 3 года назад +6

      You words hit me hard! Became lazy these days!

    • @comradepeter87
      @comradepeter87 3 года назад +28

      Yeah, a distro is there so you can open some application on it and do some work. Fighting over tools is stupid if you're not gonna use the tool to build something.

    • @wolvAUS
      @wolvAUS 3 года назад +1

      Operating System as well :)

    • @eyyo3571
      @eyyo3571 3 года назад +3

      Says the guy with a fedora profile picture

  • @antarcticpenguin42069
    @antarcticpenguin42069 2 года назад +15

    I switched to Ubuntu 20.04 from Windows 10 just a few months back. Honestly, that was the best decision of my life. The experience is really amazing. And it is damn easy to do any kind of programming in Linux. A million thanks to Linus Torvalds and the entire open source community.
    And thanks for making this video. It was fun to watch.

    • @fargeeks
      @fargeeks 2 года назад +2

      I heard Linux mint is better

    • @bhavyakukkar
      @bhavyakukkar Год назад

      @@fargeeks who cares

    • @fargeeks
      @fargeeks Год назад

      @@bhavyakukkar I do

    • @bhavyakukkar
      @bhavyakukkar Год назад +1

      @@fargeeks if someone is happy with what they are using why rub your head in like "I heard Linux mint is better ☝️🤓"

    • @MichaelMossmanNZ
      @MichaelMossmanNZ Месяц назад

      @@fargeeks Whatever works for you! Everyone has their own preference, hence why there are over 200 active distros =)

  • @AndyQuinteroM
    @AndyQuinteroM 3 года назад +7

    Every day I see more and more Linux content from various RUclips channels. Really cool to see the community grow

  • @hooya27
    @hooya27 2 года назад +13

    Linux has been a joy since I first installed Slackware on my 486DX2-66. I've dabbled with most major distros, and enjoyed the puzzle of getting cd-roms, printers, and sound cards to work back in the '90s and '00s. I used to have to compile a custom kernel to enable a Panasonic cd-rom! Fun times.

  • @tanmaydeshpande
    @tanmaydeshpande 3 года назад +200

    *mentions the fact that Linus created git in passing*
    "Like yeah man, I was not liking this software. So I built one of the biggest version control systems just out of spite. Y'know, everyday things"

    • @softwarelivre2389
      @softwarelivre2389 3 года назад +15

      Just like Ryan Dahl "yeah, and then I create Node whatever" then creating Deno

    • @PhilipAlexanderHassialis
      @PhilipAlexanderHassialis 3 года назад +4

      @@softwarelivre2389 His deno presentation was also funny as hell, demonstrating all the gripes that many of us subconsciously or not came up with and had to train our brains to accept, just because javascript then was less mature than today's version of the language. Plus, the moment it all breaks down when he almost started cursing at some faults of his own creation and the audience simply applauded because they finally had the official approval to voice their angst against theme same faults... priceless :)

  • @susabara
    @susabara 3 года назад +4

    3:40 thanks for having suse in the list. However: Suse parted ways with Slackware in the 1990s, moved over to become their own thing from scratch and be rpm packaged. And _open_SUSE, the step of going from in house development to an open community started only 2004.

  • @ChristosMilarokostas
    @ChristosMilarokostas 3 года назад +283

    "Some cars are designed to go fast...", of all F1 cars shows Ferrari.

    • @Fireship
      @Fireship  3 года назад +96

      It looked fast... Apparently it's not the best F1 car?

    • @ChristosMilarokostas
      @ChristosMilarokostas 3 года назад +71

      ​@@Fireship Well...it's complicated. Let's say that it's not in the front row!
      (Senpai noticed me! 🤩)

    • @htky
      @htky 3 года назад +26

      S🅱️innala

    • @erwinjitsu_3706
      @erwinjitsu_3706 3 года назад +2

      MERCEDES!!!!!

    • @LoGaIta99
      @LoGaIta99 3 года назад +1

      @@Fireship Not last year... Last year was one of their worst years.

  • @leap123_
    @leap123_ 3 года назад +12

    Fireship: There are 2 Linux families that came out in the early 2000s that are focused on simplicity, performance, and minimalism
    *Ah yes, Gen Z distros*

  • @abhishekpratap05
    @abhishekpratap05 3 года назад +21

    0:35 great words by great man

  • @Salisbury2015
    @Salisbury2015 2 года назад

    This was a really informative video. I thought I knew a bit about Linux history but I learned a few new things here. Great job.

  • @transatlant1c
    @transatlant1c 3 года назад +4

    Awesome video dude, you're killing it. I really enjoyed placing my entry to the Linux world on the greater timeline, if only I knew when I tried out feisty (7.04) it would change my live forever!

  • @mahirfr
    @mahirfr 3 года назад

    I freaking loving this channel what a video bro... Keep it up I am going to share this channel to my friends and family.. Amazing channel...

  • @pranab091
    @pranab091 3 года назад +7

    Man you are uploading daily? Awesome content as always 😃

  • @tams805
    @tams805 2 года назад +33

    Not something many people in the Linux community are likely to admit to, but a lot of the different distros have come about because people thought their way was better and that that required a whole new distro. Little of it is about actual needs.

    • @幸运女神-h7l
      @幸运女神-h7l Год назад

      为什么复盖我的谷歌帐户冒充我上线

    • @bhavyakukkar
      @bhavyakukkar Год назад

      ends justify means

    • @johnnysilverhand1069
      @johnnysilverhand1069 Год назад

      As a linux user I don't think any of us wouldn't admit to thinking their way is better 😂

  • @kandy1249
    @kandy1249 3 года назад +76

    Wisdom:
    "It's better when it's free. :P" ❤️
    I agree 😬

    • @hmm7458
      @hmm7458 3 года назад +1

      not in every case

    • @bwiebertram
      @bwiebertram 3 года назад

      @@hmm7458 free headset noises intensifies

    • @zuruumi9849
      @zuruumi9849 3 года назад

      Yeah, but it also costs you much more if it's free...

    • @Ometecuhtli
      @Ometecuhtli 2 года назад

      Well for many software companies and vendors if it's free then you're the product so you need to dig a little more onto that.

    • @PDD555
      @PDD555 Год назад

      ​@@Ometecuhtlitrue. The good thing is that here the cost is not monetary but a social cost about talking about Linux lol

  • @zaheeruddinfaiz7064
    @zaheeruddinfaiz7064 3 года назад +3

    I would love to see a series on history of other distributions.
    Great content 👍☺️

  • @jonlothar6126
    @jonlothar6126 3 года назад +8

    I've been waiting for this so eagerly since yesterday when you told us this would be coming!

  • @davidomar742
    @davidomar742 3 года назад +4

    This Linus guy is a legend. Didn't even know we have git thanks to him.

  • @WhatzHappeningNow9
    @WhatzHappeningNow9 3 года назад +20

    Loving the spotlight on Linux!

  • @zankfrappa93
    @zankfrappa93 Год назад +1

    when i switched to linux first i thought it was crazy how many different distros there were. it was quite overwhleming trying to choose one. but it makes total sense to me now that there is a different distro for every type of use case and for different philiosphies, and its actually more crazy that companies microsoft or apple think they can make a single OS that will suit billions of people

  • @laurenlewis4189
    @laurenlewis4189 2 года назад +9

    7:35 "... but in reality, it's the polar opposite [of Communism] and the Free Market at its finest"
    This is only true if its taken as a play on words: "Free" as in software, not "Free" as in deregulation.
    Markets fundamentally regulate property and ownership: who owns what and under what conditions. The "Free" Market refers to an unregulated market where ownership is determined by whichever private entity has the most power to enforce their will. Therefore, a free market seeks to privatize as much Intellectual Property as possible, mainly because owning ideas is a form of power over people (thought control, limiting the ability to express themselves), but also because requiring people to go through you to meet their specific needs would generate more revenue (secondary resources that become property) than letting some other private entities use "your" ideas to cater to those people's needs.
    Free Software directly spits in the face of this and says "these ideas are owned by the entire community, including end users who don't even contribute to the project, and no singular entity may have total control over it." The term 'Communist' is appropriate because what I just described is communal ownership (the likes of which a communist market functions on), regardless of the intentions of those using it.

    • @ramosman0469
      @ramosman0469 2 года назад +3

      Yeah he just had to throw it in there lol

    • @fotnite_
      @fotnite_ 2 года назад +4

      techbros when they realize FOSS is actually decomodification rather than free market capitalist

    • @sasho_b.
      @sasho_b. Год назад +1

      The free market gave us Microsoft. 'Nuff said.

  • @ryzenforce
    @ryzenforce 3 года назад +37

    @1:06 Best part of the video explaining the origin of it all in operating systems. And I am grateful to Stallman for GNU (and previously his fight against the corporation) and Torvalds for Linux because without them, we would be stuck in a nightmarish computer world controlled by Microsoft/Sun/IBM with 0 innovation for the people - well, if Apple would have had a better follow up of its Apple II we might have went through but the world wouldn't be as advanced computing-wise as it is today.

    • @lc9245
      @lc9245 2 года назад +12

      I've always asked myself whether it is the culture of software development that created GNU or is it GNU that spawned the culture of software.

    • @el-lo5920
      @el-lo5920 Год назад

      I think that in truth, the BSD's will keeping existing in anyway, and GNU is not the ideal, like it's very far from beeing 100% POSIX, Busybox and MUSL LibC is way better, but not the ideal too. POSIX should be a manual to write a UNIX-based OS.

  • @ablanchi
    @ablanchi 3 года назад +58

    Linux from scratch in 100 seconds?

    • @trunk2k
      @trunk2k 3 года назад +7

      I can't download all the sources in 100 seconds, lol!

    • @itsfkf6106
      @itsfkf6106 3 года назад

      You can do LFS in 2 hours if you have the sources pre downloaded

  • @crusaderanimation6967
    @crusaderanimation6967 3 года назад +12

    0:06 "I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu)" Dear Lord this (positive) irony.

    • @Ometecuhtli
      @Ometecuhtli 2 года назад +1

      Well if a University student created an operating system back then and expected it to be as big as Windows 3.10, MacOS, OS/2, the awaited Windows NT and everything else they would've laughed at him

  • @avi12
    @avi12 3 года назад +16

    4:02 That's hilariously genius

  • @zordretpid4303
    @zordretpid4303 Год назад +2

    6:45 Thumbs up for the visualisation of "rolling release" :)

  • @modus_ponens
    @modus_ponens 3 года назад +100

    Calling Arch Linux simple and minimalistic is true for power user, but it is quite misleading for layman.

    • @user2C47
      @user2C47 3 года назад +36

      "Empty" or "Blank" might be more descriptive terms.

    • @jimihenrik11
      @jimihenrik11 3 года назад +39

      Arch is simple to the computer because it includes nothing, not to the user who needs to get that shit running.

    • @aika7974
      @aika7974 3 года назад +1

      More like an empty space rather than "minimalistic"

    • @darontra
      @darontra 3 года назад +1

      Not quite so, its true that there is no gui after install but a lot of necessary packages are already there. sudo -S pacman xf86-video-amdgpu xorg-server xorg-xinit dwm. Will give me working gui. (I know about compiling dwm from source lol but just for example).

    • @darontra
      @darontra 3 года назад +3

      There are distros which actually more minimal then arch. Arch is more of a meme nowadays. Tons of install videos and even copy and paste wiki. No hate for arch tho. Grate distro, I use it for my laptop.

  • @phildenfer
    @phildenfer 3 года назад

    I'm 29 years old and what's amazing with this is that most of these awesome people from the beginning at Bell Labs/AT&T, Ken Thompson, Lorinda Cherry, Brian Kerningham, etc. then afterwards people like Linus Torvals, Richard Stallman are still alive today (sadly not Ian Murdock, but he did not die of old age, and Dennis Ritchie), even if to younger conmputer science enthusiasts today, it feels like the history of mankind all the way from prehistoric times, all of this happened incredibly fast.
    It's so awesome that even if it feels like old software if you would boot up the first versions of GNU/Debian, etc, it's the same commands that you run today, with some updates of course, but most of it looks the same.
    I'm so thankful for all of their code that I use everyday for free, especially for those who intended it to be free and open source software from the beginning. To me, they are legends, we will always remember their names, but we should not forget that behind the big names, there are thousands of mostly anonymous FOSS projects contributors who are awesome too!
    I believe GNU/Linux systems will continue to improve (almost) forever.

    • @phildenfer
      @phildenfer 3 года назад

      And now that licensed OS vendors like Microsoft, Apple and Google are trying to milk more and more cash from their users using software as a service licences and/or data collection, FOSS OSes might become even more popular even to mainstream users. Windows was so easy to install back in the XP days, now I have to unplug the router so I can get the option to create a local account and not an online account, and find opt-out options of each GPS data collection and Cortana stuff that I don't need or want. Then I have to uninstall trial versions of software I never asked for, which were only previously found on OEM installs... I have many PCs, Windows, Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, but I only keep Windows because I can't run certain games on GNU/Linux...

  • @DeathBender
    @DeathBender 3 года назад +4

    I'm gonna show this to my buddy who is skeptical about Linux AND Communsim ;) :> Thanks for this !

  • @khalidelgazzar
    @khalidelgazzar 3 года назад

    One of the greatest RUclips videos of all time .. where can one get the mindmaps of distro trees?

    • @khalidelgazzar
      @khalidelgazzar 3 года назад

      upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg

  • @hi_arav
    @hi_arav 3 года назад +5

    I've been into Linux and the free software community for many years now. Honestly, this was one of the best intros to "What the f*** is Linux?" that I've seen. Thanks Fireship.

  • @emmanuelpoirier4602
    @emmanuelpoirier4602 2 года назад +1

    Excellent. that the kind of perspective which cast a lot of light on the subject and brings lots of order on a somewhat many piece jigsaw.

  • @JeroenTrappers
    @JeroenTrappers 3 года назад +4

    I really missed knoppix, which revolutionized the installation process by making it possible to run the entire thing from cd or dvd.

  • @testertech
    @testertech 2 года назад

    Love the way you tell this! Should be the go to video for anyone not familiar with GNU/Linux.

  • @arxaaron
    @arxaaron 3 года назад +3

    Wonderfully concise, comprehensive and historically accurate. THANK YOU!

  • @brentbarr498
    @brentbarr498 3 года назад

    Wow.. I learned A TON of stuff I had no clue about.. So happy I clicked this... being a geek has it's wonderful moments! Thank you!!

  • @Ataraxia_Atom
    @Ataraxia_Atom 3 года назад +7

    I love linux, when windows 10 released it totally tanked my old laptop, so I upgraded computers and put mint on my old laptop, it runs great and my son uses it

  • @jaysistar2711
    @jaysistar2711 3 года назад +2

    Great video!
    I did see something that may cause confusion, but probably not: At 2:14 the GPL3 logo was used, but Linux is GPL2.

  • @arclight7401
    @arclight7401 3 года назад +16

    7:15
    Some cars are designed to go fast
    >Shows a ferrari xd

    • @dimitryozz
      @dimitryozz 3 года назад +1

      yeah.. 2020 was a painful to watch season :'(

  • @reubenroy
    @reubenroy 3 года назад

    How is this person able to explain this topic better than literally Everyone else!! Amazing! Awesome videos!

  • @Sladen70
    @Sladen70 3 года назад +4

    So much left unsaid about linux's unique history. Loved your take on linux in less than 10 minutes though.

  • @Zx797
    @Zx797 Год назад +2

    I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
    Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
    There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

  • @dromedda6810
    @dromedda6810 2 года назад +4

    i switched from win10 to Manjaro for my workstation half a year ago and yes there is a learning curve. however i don't think i would be able to switch back because most things on linux just make sense compared to win10

  • @nikdiklic
    @nikdiklic 2 года назад +1

    I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/LInux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
    Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
    There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

  • @smegleymunroe863
    @smegleymunroe863 3 года назад +6

    >people may call it communism
    And those people would be correct. Nowhere is the principle of “from each according to ability, from each according to need” followed more successfully than in Linux development

    • @Anonymous4045
      @Anonymous4045 2 года назад

      If this is communism, then I'm all for it. But you can't meaningfully compare an operating system to an economic system, it just doesn't work that way

  • @rodoherty1
    @rodoherty1 3 года назад +2

    You know you've made a mark on the world when "He created Git" is a mere footnote in your biography!

  • @karakunai_dev
    @karakunai_dev 3 года назад +5

    7:17 Some cars are designed to be fast : *Shows a picture of a completely red tractor*

    • @0007Shawn
      @0007Shawn 3 года назад +2

      Copy, we're looking into it. Slow button on, Slow button on.

  • @SunitKarmakar
    @SunitKarmakar 3 года назад

    Started watching it on Manjaro, then used KDE connect to send open this vid on my Android phone and continue watching... Huge respect

  • @c462-
    @c462- 3 года назад +4

    i don't think showing a GPL3 image at 2:15 is the best given how much Linus is against using this version of GPL

  • @EurekaTeklemariam-qu3ey
    @EurekaTeklemariam-qu3ey Год назад

    best basic intro to linux fireship keepit up men.

  • @worldhello1234
    @worldhello1234 Год назад +3

    @6:26 Storage is cheap and those extra features have a negligible impact on performance, unless you run a potato. Bloat is basically the price of convenience. It makes the system more complex, not the life. 😊

  • @bakedveal2624
    @bakedveal2624 2 года назад

    Warty Warthog caught my eye at my local library one year, I had no idea, but soon started figuring it out. I am glad for ShipIt back then. I was so pumped checking the mail every day waiting on my Live CD.

  • @NetMan_PL
    @NetMan_PL 2 года назад +5

    Just want to sprinkle a bit of information: in addition to independent distros, there is Void Linux, which functions like Arch, but has its own package manager (xbps), and does not use systemd, bur rather runit.

  • @personal_utube
    @personal_utube 3 года назад

    Manjaro KDE is my current primary OS. Great video as always!

  • @ginger8774
    @ginger8774 3 года назад +4

    Note: Linux is under GPLv2, not GPLv3 (logo in video)

  • @svenbtb
    @svenbtb 2 года назад

    Wow I had NO idea that Linus also made Git, how did I not know that? Great video!

  • @Synthwave89
    @Synthwave89 3 года назад +4

    I love Linux so much. Thank you to all the people who have made it possible to flourish to where it is now, we owe you an unpayable debt.

  • @ArniesTech
    @ArniesTech 2 года назад +1

    this was actually very comprehensive 💪🙏

  • @adnanamin1843
    @adnanamin1843 3 года назад +5

    Seriously! This is how history should be taught in schools! ✌️
    Loved it!

  • @gauravkumardey1032
    @gauravkumardey1032 3 года назад

    I was waiting to hear something about Kali linux. Still enjoyed watching it. Thanks for making such unique content ❤️

  • @eccotom1
    @eccotom1 3 года назад +5

    Libre software is literally the opposite of free market relations considering it rejects private and intellectual property rights. It would be much more accurate to call it communistic since it's free association among free producers (which is why it makes sense that e.g. RMS is a socialist)

    • @eccotom1
      @eccotom1 3 года назад +5

      @Kian Moore "stop bringing politics into politics"

  • @fredericjaquet3729
    @fredericjaquet3729 3 года назад +1

    Cool video ! Just a quick pronunciation tip : it's Leenoos (with a short "ee" and a short "oo", it's finnish, not english) and not Laïn'us 😉

  • @samuraiwithpanda
    @samuraiwithpanda 10 месяцев назад +10

    I use Arch btw

  • @ghazitozri4989
    @ghazitozri4989 3 года назад

    Keep on posting Linux videos and i ll be heree all day long

  • @Sunnywastakentoo
    @Sunnywastakentoo 3 года назад +40

    And then the legend made git so he's literally god.

  • @92jhvm
    @92jhvm 3 года назад

    These videos are sick man, digging the subscription

  • @samarthpatel8070
    @samarthpatel8070 3 года назад +24

    I've loved Arch ever since I move to linux

    • @katech6020
      @katech6020 3 года назад

      Same

    • @MetalTrabant
      @MetalTrabant 3 года назад +2

      I've only tried once to install it in VirtualBox... I've been stuck as to which key selects the needed packages (later found out it's the spacebar, I think).
      And as a newbie Linux user how the hell would I know what I need?! Most of those packages meant nothing to me back then...
      Haven't tried it ever since... but I'm looking for a good rolling release, so I might give a spin to one of the Arch-based distros, like Garuda.

    • @sanjay_swain
      @sanjay_swain 3 года назад +4

      Arch is NOT for newbies.

    • @Eric.-.
      @Eric.-. 3 года назад +1

      @@sanjay_swain yeah? the comment didn't say that it is

    • @sirgrem2988
      @sirgrem2988 3 года назад

      @@MetalTrabant Honestly, if you're a newbie, you better stick to one of the popular distros like Linux Mint or Ubuntu, unless you're a masochist, that is.

  • @eyyo3571
    @eyyo3571 3 года назад

    Bro I love your videos. You got one more subscriber. Pls don't stop uploading.