If Big D has a million fans I am one of them. If Big D has ten fans I am one of them. If Big D has no fans, that means I am no more on the earth. If the World is against Big D, I am against the World. I love Big D till my last breath.
Congrats to Big D and Riddles. Y'all represented Canada proud. The loss to Onin definitely messed with Riddles and his mental. Chin up, and move on to the next tourney!
@@theboy2385 Because it's steve lmao, most top players are very vocal about how draining the matchup is. And he lost to a steve right before this set to an SD. No one walks that off.
All these characters you don't see often really throw people for a loop when a skilled one comes along. Duck hunt, IC, etc. People don't know the matchup as well and really throws them off when they start doing crazy things that are unfamiliar. I think IC are scary af personally, I've seen some nasty things from them.
That’s what happens when people play top tier characters just because of their tier placement instead of finding a character they like and sticking to it.
As he should. When he cannot pull through with his carry characters he gets frustrated rather quickly. Imagine having a character that can ignore most attacks from the enemy and kill you with 2 interactions? Ice climbers by all means is mid tier at best. The issue here is that BIG D knew how to capitalize mistakes from Riddles, but throughout all the fiight Riddles characters were just mashing and ignoring most frontal ttacks and killing the ICS in 2 hits or something.
Seems to me that people were so hyperfixated on trying to find and perfect all these inconsistent and impractical infinites that they failed to take into account just how far their insane damage, crazy kill options, disjoints, and desync combos can take them. It's beautiful to see that Ultimate is nowhere close to being solved.
Very interesting matchup. Ice Climbers are tough to deal with when using the auto-facing characters like Kaz, Terry, Ryu, and Ken. Respect to Riddles for pushing till the very end.
I don't understand, it seemed Riddles was salty in the end for losing to someone's extremely technical character that can potentially obliterate a stock. Shouldn't he be popping off too?
2 types of people in the comments People who think ics are ass and that big D is a great player People who still thinks he's a good player but also see the potential in ice climbers as a character
Agreed. Ice climbers dont have much answers for keep away. But fgc characters always have to worry about being punished for hitting one of the ice climbers then having the other climber come and save them.
Riddles gave up at the end of game 2. I get it's a uphill battle, but you could tell Riddles isn't prepared for the Icies matchup. Big D absolutely embarrassed Riddles so bad Riddles didn't even want to fist bump for a little while at the end. Good stuff Big D!
He played Big D and 3-0ed him. Him saying he didn't have experience is not an excuse. But well played to big D for playing so well. I would pull my hair off having to take care of an AI
They never were. I always saw them as at minimum a mid tier with a nasty combo game when you can get a desync. Its just that nobody wants to put in the time and effort with them but instead choose the easiest characters to win with.
@@kylewood4488-b9r Man I'm trying to put in the effort with them by making them my secondary, but I can never seem to benefit off the desyncs. I know how to do the soymilk and side b desyncs easily, but I still can't seem to pull of the other desyncs in a real match. Especially also getting that confirm where one climber up tilts and the other up smash after down b. Really hard character to invest time with... but I'm glad I can win against some people because they've never fought Icies... but my Icies is just basic Side B, Up air, and back air spamming with desyncing of down Bs.
They were NEVER low tier lol. More like top of Mid. But I think they're only considered Mid because of the difficulty trade-off for results from them. You can argue how hard Sheik, Joker, Kazuya, etc are to play at an optimal level, but ALL of them have a way better chance of going farther than Icies. Big D worked a miracle getting this far LMAO. Gotta get through the trash before facing higher level possible winning MUs. Really happy for him.
Pretty disrespectful fistpump by riddles. Too many smash players are failing sportsmanship 101 when they lose: just give the other player a solid fistpump while not being distracted..
I don't know. big d actually struck me as having petty etiquette with the fist bump. Riddles was actually doing something, by unplugging his controller, where big d wanted the fist pump on his terms and then showed pettiness
Riddles wouldn't look him in the eye, missed the fist bump with a weak wrist, and still failed to look him in the eye. Big D was wondering wtf riddles was doing. You don't unplug your controller first and keep the other player waiting.
We've finally found Kazuya's greatest weakness...
A healthy familial relationship
Jun somewhere out there smiling
@@lokouba Jin somewhere out there laughing
@@ExceedRed ruclips.net/video/NBEraHqiKUw/видео.html
Lmao 🤣
What a great comment, man!
If Big D has a million fans I am one of them. If Big D has ten fans I am one of them. If Big D has no fans, that means I am no more on the earth. If the World is against Big D, I am against the World. I love Big D till my last breath.
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Ayo
So true!
"I love Big D til my last breath" 🤨
Congrats to Big D and Riddles. Y'all represented Canada proud. The loss to Onin definitely messed with Riddles and his mental. Chin up, and move on to the next tourney!
Nah he chokes in top 8 all the time
Nah he just got outplayed. Can't mash buttons against the climbers
Look at those salty comments lmao
hes cocky af and annoying
how are we salty we are satisfied that is broken af combo doesnt work against ics@@doodoo2065
BIG D was the best part of this tournament, I loved his run
8:12 can we appreciate how clean this was, the side b "jab" reset to forward smash
You can tell Riddles was out of it after losing to Steve. I Don't blame him. Didn't stop Big D from playing out of his mind. Good stuff.
Nah he did well Game 1, its Game 2 and 3 were it snowballed and he was really out of it.
Yeah for sure I was talking about the end
@@theboy2385 Because it's steve lmao, most top players are very vocal about how draining the matchup is. And he lost to a steve right before this set to an SD. No one walks that off.
More like Big D was just playing on fire and we shouldn’t discredit his win
Don’t discredit Big D. I know you’re trying not to but losing to someone in winner’s isn’t an excuse
The fact that Big D is like 6 foot 8 and jacked but chose to be a pro Smash player is so great
He does look like he works out but he doesn't look jacked
he's 6'8 hahaha source: bc player
👍👍👍😃😃😃
What a beautifully unexpected bunch of players we have so far in the Panda Cup. These two, Onin, Sonix, and Toast.
Wouldn’t say onin was unexpected, nor Sonix. But toast/bigd I agree.
Disguised toast = riddles
Gary :D ??
Knocked Cosmos and Riddles out. GG Big D.
Lmfao. That handshake at the end
That "he got Crack b4 he could shoot" from TK was hilarious 😂
at 6:19 riddles sd'ed on purpose he had a jump. but man im a bit happier big d made it into grands but I feel bad for riddles
Dang, you’re right
Idk, he got hit by both separately, so he possibly didn't. Outside of it being uncharacteristic, he was doomed that match.
All these characters you don't see often really throw people for a loop when a skilled one comes along. Duck hunt, IC, etc. People don't know the matchup as well and really throws them off when they start doing crazy things that are unfamiliar. I think IC are scary af personally, I've seen some nasty things from them.
That’s what happens when people play top tier characters just because of their tier placement instead of finding a character they like and sticking to it.
Sometimes I forget ice climbers are even in the game. Cool to see them in grand finals!
Big D and Ouch have asserted their dominance over riddles in Canada
Riddles only loses to top 10 players, Steves, Sonics, and Canadians
@@hools7659 *Sonix, Light and Leo, pretty sure he hasnt lost to Kola, Tweek, Sparg0 and Glutto since the start of this year
@@Daniel-uy1sv Has only dropped games to Light and Leo your correct. Riddles to me is a top 5 player rn
@@Daniel-uy1sv he’s lost to kola before but not recently. But kola only loses to his Kazuya so ….
@@Daniel-uy1sv He's lost to Spargo a couple times in the last year, like collision and summit. And lost to Kola at SWT twice
Man riddles just gave up after game 1 it was so hard to watch
Why does the crowd sound like a big sport stadium 🥳💛
Go Ultimate 🤩
Big D is like that question in the test you didn't expect at all
9:10 "ight.. sorry buddy... sorry"
truer words have never been spoken
ICS are basically kazuya, but there's 200 more ways to exploit them. Greta stuff from Big D, hope to see him more his ICS are hype af
a quote from the Big D vs Cosmos match in this tournament
"The Ice Climbers are actually 2 Kazuyas wearing a disguise"
Riddles got freaking destroyed
As he should. When he cannot pull through with his carry characters he gets frustrated rather quickly. Imagine having a character that can ignore most attacks from the enemy and kill you with 2 interactions? Ice climbers by all means is mid tier at best. The issue here is that BIG D knew how to capitalize mistakes from Riddles, but throughout all the fiight Riddles characters were just mashing and ignoring most frontal ttacks and killing the ICS in 2 hits or something.
Seems to me that people were so hyperfixated on trying to find and perfect all these inconsistent and impractical infinites that they failed to take into account just how far their insane damage, crazy kill options, disjoints, and desync combos can take them.
It's beautiful to see that Ultimate is nowhere close to being solved.
I hope Big D wins this, that would be so incredible
The cheering in the background reminds me of a football stadium in the UK I love to hear it
Big D really be out here making SoPo’s recovery look good
When Onin spike Riddles back to the cart it broke his spirits, But Big D just straight up broke his soul.
Big D making ice climbers proud ✨👏🥹
Very interesting matchup. Ice Climbers are tough to deal with when using the auto-facing characters like Kaz, Terry, Ryu, and Ken. Respect to Riddles for pushing till the very end.
ICs are low Tier unless Big D plays them. Wish we could see him travel more to the States. Riddles felt lost against this character.
Big Dynamite. Because his plays are so explosive.
We know nothing about this game yo 😭😭😭😭. I’ll bet the house there’s not one Kazuya player on the planet that beats Big D’s Icies
Riddles probably could on a good day, not this set because clearly he was tilted after losing to steve
Haha riddles sucks
I don't understand, it seemed Riddles was salty in the end for losing to someone's extremely technical character that can potentially obliterate a stock. Shouldn't he be popping off too?
Who cares he’s annoying I hate riddles 🙄
those desync combos are some of the coolest shit I've ever seen
Oof Kazuya wasn’t the pick, harder get the combos when there’s two of them to deal with
Surprised he didn't go Roy. Would've been a better pick than Kazuya.
cuz he dropped roy
Fuck riddles
I couldn’t even imagine trying to fight those IC’s. That’s some scary shit right there
Big D won the mental game at 8:16.
Le dio unos taquitos de paliza
A lowtier vs Broken a$$ DLC Terry ?!
Love to see it !!!!
I feel like icies have dummy potential with desync
@@zacharyh5419 they have desync but they still booty ngl nobody jus knows how to play against them
@@zacharyh5419 They do. Ever heard of wobbling?
@@sikeyno.8797 shut up riddles fan 🙄
@@sikeyno.8797 stay mad
Where are the Riddles winner's quarter's matches
1:00 we proud
This makes me want to care about the comp scene again
Big D the coolest to do it
I.C. what you did there
un personaje que nadie estudia y muy peligroso felicitaciones para Big D 🎉
Sheesh the last tournament they play riddles 3-0 D but this tournament D returned the favor with his own 3-0
2 types of people in the comments
People who think ics are ass and that big D is a great player
People who still thinks he's a good player but also see the potential in ice climbers as a character
Riddles shouldve gone Richter here. Icies get completely shut down by every zoner in the game.
woulda been hype. he probably doesn’t keep the richter warm though
Agreed. Ice climbers dont have much answers for keep away. But fgc characters always have to worry about being punished for hitting one of the ice climbers then having the other climber come and save them.
Riddles is annoying im glad he finally lost
Could you guys imagine if the busterwolf softlock was found here?
What’s that?
@@damarihanson3876 ruclips.net/video/MBCbQQX7GmI/видео.html
Not yall making excuses for Riddles. Mindset is part of the game lol
Tier lists are bullshit in the long run if you got the skills and hard work
1:33 terry are you okay?
Terry. HOOAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Riddles greatest weakness is... his composure in disadvantage
It’s a pretty common weakness in this game
this match was awesome, goodshit D
Love these commentators!
Hahaha…
*KAZUYA MISHIMA*
XD
Why did they have to take away ice climbers chain grabs? They used to be so scary to fight in Brawl.
because wobbling is annoying and no one likes it
Because ICs killed brawl
desync combos are much cooler and take actual effort and skill
No one likes dying off a single grab bro
I really thought riddles would win this major wtf Big D just wooped straight ass
Riddles gave up at the end of game 2. I get it's a uphill battle, but you could tell Riddles isn't prepared for the Icies matchup. Big D absolutely embarrassed Riddles so bad Riddles didn't even want to fist bump for a little while at the end. Good stuff Big D!
Riddles was so drained by that steve set plus Big D playing insane makes this an impossible win
He played Big D and 3-0ed him. Him saying he didn't have experience is not an excuse. But well played to big D for playing so well. I would pull my hair off having to take care of an AI
So happy he lost
These are the ics we were warned about backed when smash first came out nobody had practiced them enough to learn them
Omg riddles got destroyed
Haha
There's not a single day where I'm sad to see ice climbers win or see a dlc high tier loose.
アイクラうっま。色んなキャラで戦えるいいゲームだな。まあ今作は安定して勝つのが難しいって聞くから安定はわからんけど。
アイクラは復帰阻止行けるキャラだと簡単に相方倒せるからそこでどうなるか
In my opinion... I can't see Icies as being in low tier anymore
They never were. I always saw them as at minimum a mid tier with a nasty combo game when you can get a desync. Its just that nobody wants to put in the time and effort with them but instead choose the easiest characters to win with.
@@kylewood4488-b9r
Man I'm trying to put in the effort with them by making them my secondary, but I can never seem to benefit off the desyncs. I know how to do the soymilk and side b desyncs easily, but I still can't seem to pull of the other desyncs in a real match. Especially also getting that confirm where one climber up tilts and the other up smash after down b. Really hard character to invest time with... but I'm glad I can win against some people because they've never fought Icies... but my Icies is just basic Side B, Up air, and back air spamming with desyncing of down Bs.
@@kylewood4488-b9r good advantage dosent make them good
They were NEVER low tier lol. More like top of Mid. But I think they're only considered Mid because of the difficulty trade-off for results from them. You can argue how hard Sheik, Joker, Kazuya, etc are to play at an optimal level, but ALL of them have a way better chance of going farther than Icies. Big D worked a miracle getting this far LMAO. Gotta get through the trash before facing higher level possible winning MUs. Really happy for him.
They never were to me
Solo buster wolfing nana, is way funnier than it should be
8:11 nice
This climbers is cracked
i'll be the first to say it. big d >>>>>>>>>>>>> riddles. there's no arguing about it + icies > fgc
Right fuck these stupid shotos man
Holy. Shit. LETS GO BIG D!!!!!!
Riddles got 3-0d twice by big D as of now. Ice climbers are insanely hard to brawl with
Talking about the size of Canada. I live there. For me, I am closer to Mexico then I am the other side of Canada. Massive country.
If riddles played richter it would have been a complete different match
Tk breezy was waiting for to chose Kazuya lol its so funny how he says Kazuya Mishima
Biggest D in the venue.
Ice climbers my favorite character to watch
8:10
Riddles definitely didn’t wanna play that last one w kazuya. Regardless big d is hype af
I came here just to the some comments like "ICE CLIMBER IS KAZUYA/TERRY WEAKNESS, YOU DONT KNOW MAN" or some shit like that.
Ice climbers can do pretty good against kazuya on paper because of nana
Low key kazuya May do bad vs ice climbers because if he only electrics one, the other can still hit him. So kinda neutralizing ewgf overall
スティーブ優勝よりもやばいのはこっちだろ
それな、アイクラでここまで来てるのやばすぎ
アイクラ単騎なのやばいよね
"I think this speaks to how hard it can be to win in ultimate"... just play Steve lul.
Kazuya Mishima
Let's go big D!!!
WTF este jugador es simplemente pro
Riddles très fort 3/0 contre un mec qui est à peine 50
disgusting let's go big D
Pretty disrespectful fistpump by riddles. Too many smash players are failing sportsmanship 101 when they lose: just give the other player a solid fistpump while not being distracted..
I don't know. big d actually struck me as having petty etiquette with the fist bump. Riddles was actually doing something, by unplugging his controller, where big d wanted the fist pump on his terms and then showed pettiness
Riddles wouldn't look him in the eye, missed the fist bump with a weak wrist, and still failed to look him in the eye. Big D was wondering wtf riddles was doing. You don't unplug your controller first and keep the other player waiting.
Sorry riddles but I love seeing street fighters lose
本人達見てると使ってるキャラ逆にしか見えない
One day riddles, one day 🤟🏽👍🏼
He sucks
How you beat broken characters? With Even More broken characters 😂
When you say zackary are they talking about that kid who blows dudes at tourneys when they’re sleeping and then black mails them ?
Think you mean Captain Zack
might be the worst match up in the game
Love to see Riddles loose
Riddles can’t get shit done bahahahha
And what have you done?
He got 3rd? is that nothing?
Consistently getting 3rd and 4th at all these tournaments.
Ban Steve? Naw, son. Ban Icies!
Kazuya vs Ice Climbers is just....
Morbius vs Minions
I regret playing this game.
Riddles sucks
3rd at a major aint bad tho
Ban ice climbers broken char
Terrible Canadian geography
#BanIceClimbers
the tag big d is a little cringe
His name is Dawson and he's big. What's the problem?
@@willycheez7218 oh i didn’t know his name was dawson
He’s like 6ft 8 and his name is dawson seems like a good name to me
Riddles fans will do anything to discredit whoever beats him. (DDEE, big D) so over it
Onin won the tournament v big d
Why spoil it! That’s a doushe thing to do
What did you gain from this?
A Lapdance?
💀💀💀
Big D won in my heart