First time she said she actually prayed for her sister to have a loss would have been absolutely it for me. No contact, no second chances, the end. That's beyond spoiled and narcissistic and stepping into "it puts the lotion on the skin" territory
I would have been a HUUUUGE bitch at that and said "Oh, that explains why you can't get pregnant again. The rule of three is biting you hard." witchcraft spells are basically prayers and asserting your will into the universe. When you do negative energy, it hits you three fold.
The woman who holds the door for her partner and then stands in the open doorway blocking access has thousands of relatives who stand in the middle of the aisle in retail and grocery stores.
The woman who stands in the way is cute to me. I know it's annoying to tell her but chances are she has something else on her mind. I do this. My mind is on a thousand different things so but my body doesn't catch up with the physical movements sometimes. I'm thinking ahead of where I physically am so I'm out of time so to speak.
Pastry story, damned if you do and damned if you don't. He listened to her when she said that she wanted to cut junk food. It's not fair for him to go without just because she does. Props to him for actual listening to his partner.
Don't you know that according to society he's supposed to be a mind reader and no she would want one even though she's been complaining about her health and weight, I mean it's been that way for men towards women for half a century or more. We're all supposed to be mind readers and know exactly what they are thinking feeling and want at all times and be able to read their body language and facial expressions and no 100% what it means.
S1, NTA. "Not his place", I beg your pardon? OP's *job as a husband* is to defend his wife, and he was pretty tame about it. Praying for someone to lose their child and openly admitting to doing so goes far beyond golden child jealousy, that is unhinged. Long past time to cut off contact with her.
"Its easier to let her have her way than call her out on it" My family let my grandmother torment them cause of how violent she would get if she wasn't given her way. Its a stupid logic where no one wins
Also, Uber, taxi, share ride, etc do exist. And if there´s no public transportation at all and nobody can pick her up in her location, then she should´ve think about that before moving into a very remote area without knowing how to drive. Or she could woke up extra early and biked 2 hours to work.
@mbyerly9680 Even so, there might be people at work willing to take her to work if there are no busses, trains, or ride shares. It doesn't even sound like she tried anything, even tho she had 9 months to figure it out..
1. Spoiled brat is an understatement. I would of told her off. Break contact with her. Your better if without her. She is just unhappy with her life so she takes it out on her sister.
This isn't being a spoiled brat. This is genuinely psychological. She needs therapy to understand her feelings because there's no way this can be psychologically healthy.
“I cannot comprehend anyone other than a toddler not knowing how to open a door” excuse you, ill have you know that a very sweet two year old boy opened the door for me the other day after just watching an adult do it for someone else. So even a toddler can in fact open a door for someone else correctly.
The only thing that could stop him now is if the door is too heavy. Then he'd enlist his dad or whichever parent he's with to help. A gentleman in the making.
Story 1: If someone admitted to wanting a baby to die in a miscarriage that's automatic "You're not a good person" and cut from having any contact with the one they wish ill on, family or no. It's in fact 10 times more shameful that you wish bad things on your own family member when they didn't do anything to deserve it.
Yeah, that's completely vile to wish someone to lose their baby. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. And I don't even have an enemy. It's something that truly shows your true colors and hers are disgusting.
Yeah reddit is pathetic. Always defending vvomens bad behavior. He did nothing wrong. He isn't a damn mind reader. If the shoe was on the other foot it would be nothing but ntas.
@@vaseline69 exactly right it's one of those places that still they say oh no we don't judge people here proceeds to judge any man that ever comes through with a post like this like there was a story where a guy was comforting his friend who lost not only his wife but his child the dude's wife literally said oh he's gay and so many people were like yeah he's so fucking him he's so gay man he's definitely going to try to steal your baby and give it to him
@@TheRationalist. exactly like if he brought home a snack for her I guarantee you she would be pissed if he didn't bring anything for her she would still be pissed if he called her oh why are you doing this are you trying to make me fail and even if the wife didn't blow up people on Reddit would say oh you're a horrible husband
Disagree. Buy a few small simpler pastries (e.g., plain croissant instead of big cinnamon roll with icing), take them home, tell her it's up to her if she wants to have anything and there's a selection in the box.
S1: Agree that OP was far too gentle with Karley, she's a monster. But his wife should have cut contact years ago. Glad she's finally agreed to NC, and is looking into getting help.
The sad part is, it really does seem like they’ve tried to rein it in even before she became an adult. Dad removed her from the graduation so the rest of the family could celebrate. She was warned that she’d be left at home (presumably by the parents) if she wore a white dress. They scolded her for her downright evil remarks about her sister. I’m starting to think that commenter who thinks she’s a sociopath is on to something.
I completely disagree, his girlfriend wants to lose weight, that’s her grown responsibility. He didn’t want to tempt her so he got one for himself. Just because she is own diet doesn’t mean he needs to be. We are responsible for our own health and habits.
Yeah he's being supportive to her desire to lose weight by avoiding pastries, but that's not enough, he has to either deny himself sneak around because she's too fragile to see him eat something. Such BS.
He should be an adult and.....eat the pastry in the car to spare her feelings? Or maybe since SHE is the one complaining and wanting to get back to her baseline weight, SHE should be the GD adult and learn how to get over it. Let's be real, as soon as he came up with a logical reason why he didn't get her one, she swapped the narrative and still made him out to be he ass because he got one for himself and DARED to bring it inside in front of her.
Last Story: the moment “opening the marriage” comes up, it should be taken as wanting a divorce. Called it that the wife wanted to close it again once OP found someone he liked.
Second time hearing this story in the past 24 hours. And I still feel that it is foolish beyond measure to think you can take what seemed to be a solid monogamous relationship and open it to additional people and keep it stable. You need to work this out BEFORE the marriage, not well into it. Or... Wife messed around and now she's finding out. Likely thought hubby wouldn't be able to find anything other than occasional one night stands, and when he found a stable second woman, she's getting jealous. I'd divorce her rather than close the relationship up again.
They can absolutely work so I disagree with the comment where opening them should immediately result divorce, and those accusing her of cheating first, those are just justice Boner assumptions to get an extra feel good Boner from the story. This one came with an ultimatum though, that's where it went wrong.
Working open marriage (which is rare) is for sex only. Going dates with your fwbs will never work. I'd guess most Reddit stories isn't sex only but "i want to see if there's something better but my marriage is backup" OP should have gone divorce when wife asked this, and he really should divorce. "He has found someone who makes him happy" ..and that isn't wife so why he'd stay married?
S1: it always amazes me as youngest child who was pretty much left on my own. You guys were being babied and coddled for being born last? OP’s SIL is a monster their parents created
Yeah, I'm the youngest but both my parents were working when I came along but my mum was sahm when my older sister was born. So my older sister got a lot of attention from the start and that continued throughout our childhoods for some reason - I think maybe my mother was more bonded with her because they spent more time together in the start. I wasn't the "baby of the family" I was the after-thought
Story 1: if anything OP you were way too nice. She’s been insulting your wife since before you met her. You sat there and watch this woman constantly make horrible comment after horrible comment. Then we get to this point where she publicly in private, disrespected your wife and prayed that you would keep getting miscarriages. If that was me she wouldn’t have left the house without crying.
To me Op is only an AH for not telling Karley off sooner and being too nice about it. I honestly think if Karley did what she did to anyone else, she would have a broken nose and a RO
_"Oh, I'm sorry, I thought with your diet and all you wouldn't want a pastry."_ "You never think of me! I hate you!" _"Here you go, honey! I got you a pastry just like you wanted!"_ "You're sabotaging my diet and all my efforts to lose weight! I hate you!"
Final Story: NTA. So what I’m hearing is she was just thinking about herself and now that she has even the slightest competition she’s feeling bad about the arrangement SHE brought up.
Last story: every open relationship story is the same. Person peer pressured their SO because they want permission to cheat, thinking SO wooden or couldn’t find any partners. Then they do, people that make the person feel an adequate or jealous or angry that the SO far happier and saddest strangers than they ever did with them. Now they want to close the marriage, but it’s too late, and you have no one to blame but yourself. OP you never wanted to open the marriage she threatened to divorce you, she doesn’t get to force you now that you’re having fun. And she doesn’t get to be mad or blame anyone else else but herself, it’s not your fault she can handle the idea of you doing the same thing.
That's because open relationships that Work don't need to come on Reddit to ask for advice. There are plenty out there including my own. So don't let stories like this colour your thoughts of them. The moment she uttered an ultimatum though, that's where it went wrong in this story.
@@akl2k7 you only think the majority don't work because you always hear about the negative ones on here, of which it is a small minority compared to how many go on in the world..
@@blindbrad4719but the idea for an open marriage needs to be a free and wanted choice for both people AND a genuine, empathetic discussion needs to occur beforehand.
@@D-me-dream-smp and why exactly does it have to happen before? have you never changed your mind about something? I also acknowledged that it has to be free and fair, that's why I stated it went wrong when the ultimatum was introduced.
When someone like that is losing weight, it's a dammed if you do, damned if you don't situation. You're damned if you get your partner anything, even something low-calorie or very small because you're sabotaging their diet. If you ask them if they want anything, you're tempting them and leading them astray. If you don't get them anything, "well, I can have one little treat without hurting my diet". And if you get something for yourself and don't tell your partner - because you deserve treats too, and you don't want to start a fight - you're wrong for "lying by omission". There is no winning with that kind of person. I've been there too many times - I don't play that bs game.
Op. My hubby has brain damage from the accident we were in over 11 years ago. And it takes about a year for me to get something in his head. Fingers crossed. Lol. But in the end he gets it. What is your wife's excuse? Ask her if she has ever had a traumatic brain injury in her life the next time she does this. She will be pissed off,but maybe she will finally get it.
I'm going to say that open marriages can work, but opening a marriage never works. If the open relationship is discussed, agreed on, and begun at the start of / shortly into the relationship then it can work. This has to have no coercion or convincing involved to open the relationship though, if either partner is reluctant, it's a bad idea to open the relationship or (most of the time) continue the relationship. Any time a partner seeks opening a relationship long after it's been established as exclusive, it's likely a sign the person wanting to open the relationship is already cheating or has planned to cheat.
@@vaseline69 That's 9 times out of 10 how it usually is: the person who suggested the idea doesn't think about the partner is worth anything unless they have them. They are always shell-shocked when the partner either leaves or find a better partner, but especially both.
Open marriage can work but it requires a specific type of relationship. Non-monogamy or polygamous relationships for one And yes it can work. Just most people are insecure or don't want to deal with the problems a lifestyle brings.
Story 1: OP was too kind with that “spoiled brat” comment. Of course he’s going to defend his wife! Karley needs to be institutionalized and her child is doomed with a mom like that
Pastry story: NTA obviously! If gf says blah blah blah, then what is OP supposed to do, just assume that she didn’t mean it. Well that would be rude, RIGHT! But no, because Reddit is a man-hating platform, all men should just automatically know that they are wrong.
Story 2: The wife constantly blocking the door...is this some weird weaponized incompetence? Is she holding a grudge about something and this is her way of being passive aggressive? That she's still bringing it up several conversations later looks like a weird grudge.
Story 2: from a strictly logical point of view, how is anyone supposed to get in the door if you’re standing in front of it? You weren’t rude you were sick of her, making the same mistake over and over again as if she she’s not paying attention, and frankly, it shouldn’t be something you should have a grown woman.
Why the hell is it up to Op to be considered and not tempt his gf dietary when is helps herself in sweets? That’s pitiful, she’s responsible for her own dietary choices and restraints not her boyfriend just like other people are responsible for their managing their own mental illness? Okay, word of advice, those who ask for “open relationship” is always ticket for divorce. The wife played herself here and won a dumb prize.
1953 for me. My younger sister was born in 55, we lost her 9 years ago. Mums had such funny sayings back then( we're British), and my sisters and I have kept some of them going.
I go in and out of businesses all day for work and it drives me NUTS when people actually hold me up longer than if I just went through the door myself because they don’t know how to do it properly. I’ll be half way through while easily pushing it open with my foot and someone will awkwardly lean back and stand in my way to try and pull it open completely. I appreciate the consideration but it pisses me off 😂
I'm with you! I have limited mobility and use a rollator. I cringe inside when I see someone on the other side of the glass door into the building where I work because most of the time they push the door open and hold it, but do not move out of the way making it very awkward for me to maneuver past them without making contact with them. And that's with a very wide door. With a standard sized house door, it would be so much worse!
Story 4: YTA comments, or and hear me out. OP can have his once a week pastry, eat it in the house that he pays for because he’s a grown man. And at most eat it in a different room from his wife to avoid temptation, but she still respect the fact that this is her diet not his,because they’re both adults Who shouldn’t have to cuddle each other. To me that sounds more dignify than sneaking treats like you’re a kid who stole a piece of candy. And if she goes on and on about cutting out junk food so she can lose weight why would he ask her if she wants anything from the bakery? What does that make? “ hey I know you’re on a diet, but you want me to help you cheat by getting you junk food after you said you were cutting out”?
I am that friend that doesn't drive. I'm 37 and have a fun combo of trauma from accidents(yes plural) as a child and nerve damage that causes seizures. So I don't generally drive. I STILL went through the effort of getting my license in case of emergencies. That being said, you know who's job it is to make sure I have reliable transportation? Not my SO's, not my BFF's, mine. So many of these issues with entitlement could be solved with teaching about personal accountability from an early age. My family had a phrase, "That sounds like a YOU problem." It was rarely said in malice, usually in jest or impatience, and never to kids until they started saying it themselves. But it was common from the Grandparents to the cousins and it works. It made us think harder about whatever we were complaining about and either find solutions we hadn't considered, or find an actual way our issue would impact others. Or even just admit we couldn't seem to do the thing by ourselves and need a bit of help, which is healthy in a different way. Basically she's not a friend, she's a lazy leech.
Yup. The same as those that when asked about ordering anything will refuse repeatedly and then want to "nibble" off your plate ( get their grubby hands all over your food and oink either most of it or the best parts). Some people have never gotten a fork to the hand.
The pastry one is NAH. It's a basic miscommunication. Talk it out. My partner surprises me with croissants and other pastries because he knows I love bread. If he does it too often, I'll tell him to take a break for X weeks. He's trying to lose weight and if I'm out, I'll text/call ask if he wants something special I saw. He can determine if that's worth it. That's it. The OP can easily say "Sorry, honey, I thought you were cutting out all pastries and junk. Is this one time a week from this special place the exception? You tell me." And ask how she feels about him having junk in the house/eating it in front of her.
Pastry Story: NTA. She's been vocal about cutting out junk food/sweets, so it's understandable as to why OP wouldn't ask her. Asking her could just as equally set her off about how OP is "sabotaging her diet plans". And as for eating it at home, her weight loss journey is HER responsibility. That's like expecting your partner to give up everything just because you can't have it. It's not a fair expectation.
The pastry story is damned of you do damned if you dont cause if you dont she will go off like she did but if you do he will be blamed for ruining her dite or yelled at for tempting her i have someone like this in my life that dose this
Stoey 1: Karley is a narcissistic sociopath. Period. She is cruel. Mean. Vicious. NASTY! What she said was way more than the words of a "brat". She's no longer a spoiled teenager. She doesn't need "scolding". They should just go no contact. NTA!! Story 2: It's not "helpful" is she's actually blocking your way. You may not have needed to swear, but She. Was. In. Your. Way! NTA. Story 3: There's NO ONE at work she can go with? Really? She just HAS to ask OP's partner? She's never heard of Uber? She's a grown woman! She can find her own way to work! Plus, she's a good partner to protect her SO from her entitled co-worker! NTA Story 4: OP was a bit insensitive here. If he thought his girlfriend wouldn't want the pastry, he could have eaten his in the car. Small YTA Story 5: Oh, OP! You have clearly fallen into the trap that other people that have also fallen into when their spouses have pressured them into an open marriage. OP, the "open marriage" was NEVER meant to be open for YOU. Your wife was expecting to have her cake and eat it too while you sat at home alone. She didn't want or expect that you'd find someone to be with. The MOMENT she demanded that you agree to "open" the marriage, it was OVER! All that was left was the crying and swearing, and hiring of attorneys. NTA
Story 1: You were being kind by calling her a brat. I would have used a different word, the one that starts with a b ends with a h😏 Story 2: Is your wife doing this deliberately in order to upset you? It sure sounds like it. How can she expect you to go through the entrance when she’s standing in the way!😠 Story 3: Is there a mass transit system in your city? Tell your friend to find out and stop bothering you😒 Story 4: It’s hard to stay on a diet when your partner isn’t watching what they eat😢 Story 5: Why is it that the partner who comes up with the idea of “open marriage” wants to close the marriage when they see what a good time their partner is having🙂
story 5: she didn't want an open marriage for him. she wanted to cheat guilt free story 3: reminds me of a story I heard a while back where op's mother was giving a co-worker a ride to work and home every day. one day co-worker b asked op if she'd be nice to give her and her daughter a ride home from hospital the daughter was in. the little girl ended up throwing up in the car and her mother was very apologetic to op and offered money to clean the car and gas. op's mother understood the little girl was sick and said no to the money, but the co-worker who always had a free ride took some of the money for herself because she felt it was compensation for op's mother driving to the hospital and being late at dropping her off. In the end op's mother told her to start taking public transportation to work, and began giving car rides to co-worker b who btw began giving her gas money and was far nicer than co-worker ... as for the little girl, she recovered from her illness
Pastry story: Why didn't it occur to anyone that the best option would've been to SHARE the cinnamon roll? You each get your sugar rush at half the calories! Besides, the secret to successful weight loss isn't eliminating your favorite foods, it's being more judicious in how much you eat. One cinnamon roll a week isn't going to make anyone fat...a cinnamon roll every day just might. Going forward, it is best for OP to allow his partner agency over her food choices, and the polite and thoughtful thing to do would be to call her to ask if she wants a treat. Still NTA, though, since he was still trying to be thoughtful if misguided.
OP LISTENED TO HIS PARTNER! Wow, now he has to pay the price of the internet (man-hating) is now going to tell him everything he SHOULD have done. Y’all are too much, and need to realize that she made a statement and couldn’t hold to it, so she took it out on him and so are the rest of you.
I think it’s hilarious. How bullies switch to victims so fast. I’m sorry, but somebody says that crap to my wife and they’re going to get a face full of fist. I don’t care who it is. You don’t talk like that to the person I love, especially if they’ve done nothing wrong. I would’ve gone so far as to say “you prayed for us to lose our kid, well, I guess karma knew who to hit!“
Weight loss story: NTA. It may not be about the pastry, but she still needs to be held accountable to the diet she chose. If that means no pastry, it means no pastry, and also means she doesn't get the option to say yes. This was a no-win situation for OP, she should never have gotten mad at him for getting himself a treat if his own eating habits allow for it. Plus, it's only 10 pounds. GF only needs two months tops to lose it, she can deal with the temptation.
Wait...the husband was cruel for calling out the sister but it is ok for the sister to make all these horrible comments throughout the years . Am I crazy to think people are just accepting the cruel behavior of this vile sister because it is normal but get all work up when the husband tries to defend his wife?
Eating it at home & without asking first is thoughtless. It's so hard to resist but harder still when your partner is right there enjoying a treat!!! Respect how hard it can be. Eat treats privately or ask. Or both.
Pastry story- nta. She said she wanted to go on a diet, so op respected that. How is he an AH for not wanting to go on a diet, maybe she should learn to control herself and not blame others for HER issues
Story 3: NTA. I actually recently had this exact same problem, I didn’t have a ride to work. That being said I completely understood that this was on me and me alone. Your friend is using you.
'why does she not drive' I will say about that some people just can't drive and don't do it because they know they will be a danger on the road the person sounds like they like to be driven though is she even paying gas money?
OP NTA. It is really sweet to open and hold the door for someone else. But like you said the way your wife doesn't make any sense at all and it is crazy that she doesn't understand that. What she is doing is not holding the door or is being helpful since no one can go in or out the door way with her standing in the way. You tried to tell her and how to do it properly but she refuses so she can't be surprised that you have had enough. Had it been anyone else they would tell her to, "Get out of the way!! MOVE!!!" I wouldn't loose sleep over it or Apologize. What she has been doing isn't helpful but rude.
'Bakery Booboo': OP *should've called* and asked if she wanted anything - if not cake, maybe some fresh bread...then he's homefree. Instead, he brought the fresh-baked sweetroll right into their house, the way *he always does* when he gets *them both something.* Oof... 🤦🏼♀️
Last story. As soon as my husband brought up an open marriage, I would have contacted a lawyer immediately. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. When will people learn.
Quickest way to ruin a marriage is to “open” it. The one who opens the relationship loses….since she’s not getting ran thru like a tunnel…then you are the problem…pathetic
If OP had asked if partner wanted a pastry she would have been mad that he made her think of pastries and want one thereby being unsupportive of her efforts and completely undermining her goals and they might as well call it quits right here because anyone that would eat pastry while someone else isn't about this time OP's brain starts to explode 🤯😱🥀
Story 3. Did the friend ever pay OP money towards petrol/ travel costs? If not, she's a user. Because when you have a job like that, after getting it, you would naturally thing about moving closer to minimise travel costs.
First story: I would have called her much much much worse. The fact that so many have allowed her to say and be that awful towards her own sister and this is the first time OP let alone ANYONE else ever said anything scathing towards her!? I woulda called her a full on cvnt !!
Story 1 - These people failed their children. They neglected Lauren to spoil karley. Karley needed intervention from a psychologist during her childhood. Karley sounds too unhinged to be a mom and I'd be petty enough to call in wellness checks. She needs to be medicated. Op and his wife need to stop letting this idiot walk into their lives. Story 2 - she sounds..not too bright. Would this be a deal breaker for me? I think so if this keeps happening over and over. She's dumb or weaponizing incompetence. It just feels too deliberate. Story 3 - NTA but op needs to beware of the pushover that's about to co-parent with her. If he can't say no to an adult he's going to be useless around the time children need to learn they won't always get their way just because they've upset. Op isn't going to have fun being the bad cop because her partner won't grow a spine. Story 4 - NTA. She's crying over a pastry. Op doesn't need to secretly pig out on treats to preserve her feelings. She needs to get real. Just because she's on a diet doesn't mean the world goes on a diet too. Story 5 - 🤦 what I gathered from op's wife's complaining, "I wanted you to stay home as my faithful simp. You weren't supposed to go out and find a girlfriend." Op needs to get a divorce and be with Amanda. This marriage has demoted itself to a sad joke.
I didn't get my driver's license until I was 23 because we didn't have the money to have a teen driver on the insurance, and after that I couldn't afford a car or insurance anyway with the minimum wage jobs I was working. Everyone has different reasons for not getting a license.
Pastry gate: OP said is GF was “talking” about cutting back. Key word: Talking She obviously hadn’t started to do anything He should have called to ask or gotten extras. If she didn’t want any when he got home, that’s more for him. Simple He went and got 1 thing and brought it home to eat in front of his GF 😂 Did stop to get something she might like from somewhere else 🤷🏾♂️
Pastry stor: NTA he couldn't win no matter what he did, brings a pastry home for herself without asking her he's horrible. Ask her if she wants a pastry/other food when he's getting himself one, well now he's sabotageing her weight loss journy and is a horrible partner. Grabs food for himself and eats it befor getting home and she finds out he's horrible so sneaking around behind her back. We all know with how she reacted to him getting himself a treat that this is exactly how should would react to all the other scenario's
Story 4: NTA. First off, I do get your GF, being denied a warm pastry is the worst. But you were being considerate about what she was going through and you don’t have to diet with her. That being said though, chow down in the car.
Ginger please, nta in the diet story. She said she cutting pastries out, lets just ignore her previous statements. Does this apply to other things like sex?
Diet story NTA and the first commentor is absolutely gross. If this is your gf you need to leave. Because if you do get her something she's going to blame you for buying her one and not being supportive. Children here Last story YTA for actually entertaining this idea. You should have said nothing and divorced her when she brought it up. Your wife is a hypocrite.
For the friend who needs a ride story, there are plenty of legitimate reasons why people never learn how to drive. Drivers ed in schools no longer teach them how to drive, its left up to the parents. If she grew up poor or with parwnts that just didnt have the time or an adequate vehicle then she never got that. So assuming a driving school is out of her budget its very reasonable that she just doesnt know how to drive. Shes still the AH for expecting OP to rearrange her life to drive her, but I doubt she never learned to drive out of pure laziness.
Ugh! Save me from purposely incompetent people! Almost every able bodied person is capable of driving, they just don't want to. They've been coddled and enabled to disrupt other people's lives because they don't want to t6ake responsibility for their own transportation. NTA. She needs to grow up! Also, OP your wife is a real life adult human being and making decisions for her isn't something you are qualified to do. YTA. You should have texted her.
First time she said she actually prayed for her sister to have a loss would have been absolutely it for me. No contact, no second chances, the end. That's beyond spoiled and narcissistic and stepping into "it puts the lotion on the skin" territory
Yeah, who says that to anyone none the less you sister. Karma sadly will bite her in her cookie. Karma is undefeated.
I would have been a HUUUUGE bitch at that and said "Oh, that explains why you can't get pregnant again. The rule of three is biting you hard." witchcraft spells are basically prayers and asserting your will into the universe. When you do negative energy, it hits you three fold.
The woman who holds the door for her partner and then stands in the open doorway blocking access has thousands of relatives who stand in the middle of the aisle in retail and grocery stores.
How about elevator doors! Afaik, the percentages favor the the woman in the doorway. TBH most I’ve had trouble with are male,
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And they text on stairways!
The woman who stands in the way is cute to me. I know it's annoying to tell her but chances are she has something else on her mind. I do this. My mind is on a thousand different things so but my body doesn't catch up with the physical movements sometimes. I'm thinking ahead of where I physically am so I'm out of time so to speak.
@@AnglsCrtvEndvrs admittedly, I do it too! Thats sorta why I make it a light comment about toes!
Pastry story, damned if you do and damned if you don't. He listened to her when she said that she wanted to cut junk food. It's not fair for him to go without just because she does. Props to him for actual listening to his partner.
No excuse for a damn adult to be crying that she didnt get a pastry. Adults can get it delivered within 20 minutes
Agreed. I don't care if it's an act of kindness. Sometimes, a person deserves to be selfish and get them a treat without thinking of other.
Don't you know that according to society he's supposed to be a mind reader and no she would want one even though she's been complaining about her health and weight, I mean it's been that way for men towards women for half a century or more. We're all supposed to be mind readers and know exactly what they are thinking feeling and want at all times and be able to read their body language and facial expressions and no 100% what it means.
if your partner is on a diet DO NOT eat goodies in front of them. it's cruel. we should be helping our partners
@margaretjohnson6259 if your partner can't handle you eating something in front of them, then that's a them problem.
@@QuayHollywood so you like being cruel to your spouse.
S1, NTA. "Not his place", I beg your pardon? OP's *job as a husband* is to defend his wife, and he was pretty tame about it. Praying for someone to lose their child and openly admitting to doing so goes far beyond golden child jealousy, that is unhinged. Long past time to cut off contact with her.
"Its easier to let her have her way than call her out on it"
My family let my grandmother torment them cause of how violent she would get if she wasn't given her way. Its a stupid logic where no one wins
I side eye anyone who doesn’t defend their partner (unless they did something awful)
Story 3: Is that friend a grown-up? Can she not figure out public transportation?
Sometimes, it doesn't exist.
Also, Uber, taxi, share ride, etc do exist.
And if there´s no public transportation at all and nobody can pick her up in her location, then she should´ve think about that before moving into a very remote area without knowing how to drive.
Or she could woke up extra early and biked 2 hours to work.
@mbyerly9680 Even so, there might be people at work willing to take her to work if there are no busses, trains, or ride shares. It doesn't even sound like she tried anything, even tho she had 9 months to figure it out..
there is this wonderful thing called a bicycle they are even electric these days XD
The friend will have to move. That's on her. She had years to figure this out.
1. Spoiled brat is an understatement. I would of told her off. Break contact with her. Your better if without her. She is just unhappy with her life so she takes it out on her sister.
This isn't being a spoiled brat. This is genuinely psychological. She needs therapy to understand her feelings because there's no way this can be psychologically healthy.
@@meko98743can’t it be both?
“I cannot comprehend anyone other than a toddler not knowing how to open a door” excuse you, ill have you know that a very sweet two year old boy opened the door for me the other day after just watching an adult do it for someone else. So even a toddler can in fact open a door for someone else correctly.
The only thing that could stop him now is if the door is too heavy. Then he'd enlist his dad or whichever parent he's with to help. A gentleman in the making.
Which just PROVES something besides incompetence is going on with that person.
Story 1: If someone admitted to wanting a baby to die in a miscarriage that's automatic "You're not a good person" and cut from having any contact with the one they wish ill on, family or no. It's in fact 10 times more shameful that you wish bad things on your own family member when they didn't do anything to deserve it.
Yeah, that's completely vile to wish someone to lose their baby. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. And I don't even have an enemy. It's something that truly shows your true colors and hers are disgusting.
If he said would you like a pastry she would say how dare you try to ruin my streak of being healthy
Yeah reddit is pathetic. Always defending vvomens bad behavior. He did nothing wrong. He isn't a damn mind reader. If the shoe was on the other foot it would be nothing but ntas.
do you not understand, he has boy bits so therefore anything he did would have been wrong
@@vaseline69 exactly right it's one of those places that still they say oh no we don't judge people here proceeds to judge any man that ever comes through with a post like this like there was a story where a guy was comforting his friend who lost not only his wife but his child the dude's wife literally said oh he's gay and so many people were like yeah he's so fucking him he's so gay man he's definitely going to try to steal your baby and give it to him
@@TheRationalist. exactly like if he brought home a snack for her I guarantee you she would be pissed if he didn't bring anything for her she would still be pissed if he called her oh why are you doing this are you trying to make me fail and even if the wife didn't blow up people on Reddit would say oh you're a horrible husband
Disagree. Buy a few small simpler pastries (e.g., plain croissant instead of big cinnamon roll with icing), take them home, tell her it's up to her if she wants to have anything and there's a selection in the box.
S1: Agree that OP was far too gentle with Karley, she's a monster. But his wife should have cut contact years ago. Glad she's finally agreed to NC, and is looking into getting help.
I don't condone violence, but Carlee would've caught the beat down of her life! NTA
Same honestly in a lot of these stories i wonder why no one every threw hands at least once
S1: NTA. The parents failed Karley by babying her throughout childhood
It goes beyond button pushing. It's borderline Criminal.
"Is she pure evil?"
"I'm thinking she's 5 years old. She wants, what she wants, when she wants it!" - Law & Order
The sad part is, it really does seem like they’ve tried to rein it in even before she became an adult. Dad removed her from the graduation so the rest of the family could celebrate. She was warned that she’d be left at home (presumably by the parents) if she wore a white dress. They scolded her for her downright evil remarks about her sister. I’m starting to think that commenter who thinks she’s a sociopath is on to something.
If I was the older sister I wouldn't have been a doormat that brat would have been put in her place every time so would mommy and daddy dearest.
It's OK cause she pissed of Karma that's why she can't have more kids.
Last story: "Open our marriage or divorce" has one valid response: "fine, here's your divorce, go sleep with whoever you want."
I completely disagree, his girlfriend wants to lose weight, that’s her grown responsibility. He didn’t want to tempt her so he got one for himself. Just because she is own diet doesn’t mean he needs to be. We are responsible for our own health and habits.
Yeah he's being supportive to her desire to lose weight by avoiding pastries, but that's not enough, he has to either deny himself sneak around because she's too fragile to see him eat something. Such BS.
Story 1: NTA. That is a far more restrained response than most would've given or would agree was deserved.
not proud of it but there is a good chance if I were the OP my wife would need to come visit me for the next few years at a state run institution
He should be an adult and.....eat the pastry in the car to spare her feelings? Or maybe since SHE is the one complaining and wanting to get back to her baseline weight, SHE should be the GD adult and learn how to get over it. Let's be real, as soon as he came up with a logical reason why he didn't get her one, she swapped the narrative and still made him out to be he ass because he got one for himself and DARED to bring it inside in front of her.
Last Story: the moment “opening the marriage” comes up, it should be taken as wanting a divorce. Called it that the wife wanted to close it again once OP found someone he liked.
And she’ll want the marriage to remain open on her end only
It is so so so weird? I don't get these people?
I get when there at the beginn already go with an open relasionship but ..just be like "lets open it".
Second time hearing this story in the past 24 hours. And I still feel that it is foolish beyond measure to think you can take what seemed to be a solid monogamous relationship and open it to additional people and keep it stable. You need to work this out BEFORE the marriage, not well into it.
Or...
Wife messed around and now she's finding out. Likely thought hubby wouldn't be able to find anything other than occasional one night stands, and when he found a stable second woman, she's getting jealous. I'd divorce her rather than close the relationship up again.
They can absolutely work so I disagree with the comment where opening them should immediately result divorce, and those accusing her of cheating first, those are just justice Boner assumptions to get an extra feel good Boner from the story. This one came with an ultimatum though, that's where it went wrong.
Working open marriage (which is rare) is for sex only. Going dates with your fwbs will never work.
I'd guess most Reddit stories isn't sex only but "i want to see if there's something better but my marriage is backup"
OP should have gone divorce when wife asked this, and he really should divorce.
"He has found someone who makes him happy" ..and that isn't wife so why he'd stay married?
S1: it always amazes me as youngest child who was pretty much left on my own. You guys were being babied and coddled for being born last? OP’s SIL is a monster their parents created
Yeah, I'm the youngest but both my parents were working when I came along but my mum was sahm when my older sister was born. So my older sister got a lot of attention from the start and that continued throughout our childhoods for some reason - I think maybe my mother was more bonded with her because they spent more time together in the start.
I wasn't the "baby of the family" I was the after-thought
Wife opened Pandora's Box. You can't shut it and put stuff back in now. Too late.
Story 1: if anything OP you were way too nice. She’s been insulting your wife since before you met her. You sat there and watch this woman constantly make horrible comment after horrible comment. Then we get to this point where she publicly in private, disrespected your wife and prayed that you would keep getting miscarriages. If that was me she wouldn’t have left the house without crying.
To me Op is only an AH for not telling Karley off sooner and being too nice about it. I honestly think if Karley did what she did to anyone else, she would have a broken nose and a RO
Why are they still having anything to do with her?
@@Kayenne54 OPs wife doesn’t want to go NC. In the update, OP hopes she will eventually and she is beginning therapy
She would’ve left that house in an ambulance
She constantly says she's going to cut out junk. He listens and he's still in trouble? That's bs
That was a no-win situation! I think I would have eaten it in the car, or said it was for both of us!
_"Oh, I'm sorry, I thought with your diet and all you wouldn't want a pastry."_
"You never think of me! I hate you!"
_"Here you go, honey! I got you a pastry just like you wanted!"_
"You're sabotaging my diet and all my efforts to lose weight! I hate you!"
The wife who tried to "help" by holding a door, simply try walking into her - gently.
Final Story: NTA. So what I’m hearing is she was just thinking about herself and now that she has even the slightest competition she’s feeling bad about the arrangement SHE brought up.
Last story open marriage requires more and better communcation and honesty. It also requires that both parties agree to the concept.
A relationship between two people is complex to navigate. The more people involved, the exponentially more complicated it gets.
Story 4: OP NTA: Only advice is leave now, this is classic emotional abuse, projecting and manipulation.
Last story: every open relationship story is the same. Person peer pressured their SO because they want permission to cheat, thinking SO wooden or couldn’t find any partners. Then they do, people that make the person feel an adequate or jealous or angry that the SO far happier and saddest strangers than they ever did with them. Now they want to close the marriage, but it’s too late, and you have no one to blame but yourself.
OP you never wanted to open the marriage she threatened to divorce you, she doesn’t get to force you now that you’re having fun. And she doesn’t get to be mad or blame anyone else else but herself, it’s not your fault she can handle the idea of you doing the same thing.
That's because open relationships that Work don't need to come on Reddit to ask for advice. There are plenty out there including my own. So don't let stories like this colour your thoughts of them. The moment she uttered an ultimatum though, that's where it went wrong in this story.
@@blindbrad4719 Of course, just because yours works doesn't mean that the majority of them work.
@@akl2k7 you only think the majority don't work because you always hear about the negative ones on here, of which it is a small minority compared to how many go on in the world..
@@blindbrad4719but the idea for an open marriage needs to be a free and wanted choice for both people AND a genuine, empathetic discussion needs to occur beforehand.
@@D-me-dream-smp and why exactly does it have to happen before? have you never changed your mind about something? I also acknowledged that it has to be free and fair, that's why I stated it went wrong when the ultimatum was introduced.
When someone like that is losing weight, it's a dammed if you do, damned if you don't situation. You're damned if you get your partner anything, even something low-calorie or very small because you're sabotaging their diet. If you ask them if they want anything, you're tempting them and leading them astray. If you don't get them anything, "well, I can have one little treat without hurting my diet". And if you get something for yourself and don't tell your partner - because you deserve treats too, and you don't want to start a fight - you're wrong for "lying by omission". There is no winning with that kind of person. I've been there too many times - I don't play that bs game.
Op. My hubby has brain damage from the accident we were in over 11 years ago. And it takes about a year for me to get something in his head. Fingers crossed. Lol. But in the end he gets it. What is your wife's excuse? Ask her if she has ever had a traumatic brain injury in her life the next time she does this. She will be pissed off,but maybe she will finally get it.
Open marriage is stupid, doesn’t work, they’ll end up in divorce.
I always think that the person who suggests it always has the idea that they will have loads of relations while the partner stays home
I'm going to say that open marriages can work, but opening a marriage never works.
If the open relationship is discussed, agreed on, and begun at the start of / shortly into the relationship then it can work. This has to have no coercion or convincing involved to open the relationship though, if either partner is reluctant, it's a bad idea to open the relationship or (most of the time) continue the relationship.
Any time a partner seeks opening a relationship long after it's been established as exclusive, it's likely a sign the person wanting to open the relationship is already cheating or has planned to cheat.
@@vaseline69 That's 9 times out of 10 how it usually is: the person who suggested the idea doesn't think about the partner is worth anything unless they have them.
They are always shell-shocked when the partner either leaves or find a better partner, but especially both.
Open marriage can work but it requires a specific type of relationship.
Non-monogamy or polygamous relationships for one
And yes it can work. Just most people are insecure or don't want to deal with the problems a lifestyle brings.
@patrickdix772
You hit the nail on the head, dude
Story 1: OP was too kind with that “spoiled brat” comment. Of course he’s going to defend his wife! Karley needs to be institutionalized and her child is doomed with a mom like that
Pastry story:
NTA obviously! If gf says blah blah blah, then what is OP supposed to do, just assume that she didn’t mean it. Well that would be rude, RIGHT! But no, because Reddit is a man-hating platform, all men should just automatically know that they are wrong.
Story 2: The wife constantly blocking the door...is this some weird weaponized incompetence? Is she holding a grudge about something and this is her way of being passive aggressive? That she's still bringing it up several conversations later looks like a weird grudge.
Story 2: from a strictly logical point of view, how is anyone supposed to get in the door if you’re standing in front of it? You weren’t rude you were sick of her, making the same mistake over and over again as if she she’s not paying attention, and frankly, it shouldn’t be something you should have a grown woman.
Why the hell is it up to Op to be considered and not tempt his gf dietary when is helps herself in sweets? That’s pitiful, she’s responsible for her own dietary choices and restraints not her boyfriend just like other people are responsible for their managing their own mental illness?
Okay, word of advice, those who ask for “open relationship” is always ticket for divorce. The wife played herself here and won a dumb prize.
Why is there a random guy juggling in the middle of the street? I would tell him to get the heck away from my car.
You don't want one of those hitting your windscreen!
S1: that’s those are you kids she’s talking about as well. My words would’ve cut like a jagged rusty knife.
5:50 or so - this person never heard the phrase "You make a better door than a window!" did she? Good lord, woman, THINK.
My mum.used to say that! Haven't heard it for a long time!
@@carolroberts4614 I was born in 1955. Mom never said it to me, but boy howdy I grew up hearing it from MANY people.
1953 for me. My younger sister was born in 55, we lost her 9 years ago. Mums had such funny sayings back then( we're British), and my sisters and I have kept some of them going.
I go in and out of businesses all day for work and it drives me NUTS when people actually hold me up longer than if I just went through the door myself because they don’t know how to do it properly. I’ll be half way through while easily pushing it open with my foot and someone will awkwardly lean back and stand in my way to try and pull it open completely. I appreciate the consideration but it pisses me off 😂
I'm with you! I have limited mobility and use a rollator. I cringe inside when I see someone on the other side of the glass door into the building where I work because most of the time they push the door open and hold it, but do not move out of the way making it very awkward for me to maneuver past them without making contact with them. And that's with a very wide door. With a standard sized house door, it would be so much worse!
Last story: If your partner says "I want to open the relationship", it's already ended.
The door story. My sister would do this so I would open the other Door and walk in.
Story 4: YTA comments, or and hear me out. OP can have his once a week pastry, eat it in the house that he pays for because he’s a grown man. And at most eat it in a different room from his wife to avoid temptation, but she still respect the fact that this is her diet not his,because they’re both adults Who shouldn’t have to cuddle each other. To me that sounds more dignify than sneaking treats like you’re a kid who stole a piece of candy.
And if she goes on and on about cutting out junk food so she can lose weight why would he ask her if she wants anything from the bakery? What does that make? “ hey I know you’re on a diet, but you want me to help you cheat by getting you junk food after you said you were cutting out”?
“Make a HOLE!” Works for moving humans and animals. Even my milling cats understand the concept. 😂
Story 1- sister is a spoiled little B- word but it’s not BRAT
The doorway thing might be a TikTok or movie reference of her moving when he kisses her or something
“you may enter if you tell me the password” ?
More like, "You shall not pass!"
@@eywine.7762 that sounds like a quote from a Monty Python movie or The Princess Bride
@@amethystanne4586 Actually, Lord of the Rings.
If someone blocks the way I would just stop on my tracks and wait for the person to notice and then ask if they can move.
I am that friend that doesn't drive.
I'm 37 and have a fun combo of trauma from accidents(yes plural) as a child and nerve damage that causes seizures. So I don't generally drive. I STILL went through the effort of getting my license in case of emergencies.
That being said, you know who's job it is to make sure I have reliable transportation? Not my SO's, not my BFF's, mine.
So many of these issues with entitlement could be solved with teaching about personal accountability from an early age.
My family had a phrase, "That sounds like a YOU problem." It was rarely said in malice, usually in jest or impatience, and never to kids until they started saying it themselves. But it was common from the Grandparents to the cousins and it works. It made us think harder about whatever we were complaining about and either find solutions we hadn't considered, or find an actual way our issue would impact others. Or even just admit we couldn't seem to do the thing by ourselves and need a bit of help, which is healthy in a different way.
Basically she's not a friend, she's a lazy leech.
Last story: He's TA for not letting her call her own bluff about the divorce when she brought it up the first time.
No he isn’t but you are for the comment
The pastry story. He'll ask her, she'll say no and then try to eat his when he gets home
Yup. The same as those that when asked about ordering anything will refuse repeatedly and then want to "nibble" off your plate ( get their grubby hands all over your food and oink either most of it or the best parts). Some people have never gotten a fork to the hand.
The pastry one is NAH. It's a basic miscommunication. Talk it out. My partner surprises me with croissants and other pastries because he knows I love bread. If he does it too often, I'll tell him to take a break for X weeks. He's trying to lose weight and if I'm out, I'll text/call ask if he wants something special I saw. He can determine if that's worth it. That's it. The OP can easily say "Sorry, honey, I thought you were cutting out all pastries and junk. Is this one time a week from this special place the exception? You tell me." And ask how she feels about him having junk in the house/eating it in front of her.
I learned to drive when I was 58 and moved from Brooklyn to Connecticut. I LOVE IT. I highly recommend she learn to drive no matter her age.
Pastry Story: NTA. She's been vocal about cutting out junk food/sweets, so it's understandable as to why OP wouldn't ask her. Asking her could just as equally set her off about how OP is "sabotaging her diet plans". And as for eating it at home, her weight loss journey is HER responsibility. That's like expecting your partner to give up everything just because you can't have it. It's not a fair expectation.
Friend needs to be driven to work story: OP loves being a doormat and is too stupid to dump the pushy, self-centered B-WORD.
I hope Op reads these comments and asks herself what her friend has done for her? This friendship feels very one sided.
Oh shut up
The pastry story is damned of you do damned if you dont cause if you dont she will go off like she did but if you do he will be blamed for ruining her dite or yelled at for tempting her i have someone like this in my life that dose this
Stoey 1: Karley is a narcissistic sociopath. Period. She is cruel. Mean. Vicious. NASTY! What she said was way more than the words of a "brat". She's no longer a spoiled teenager. She doesn't need "scolding". They should just go no contact.
NTA!!
Story 2: It's not "helpful" is she's actually blocking your way. You may not have needed to swear, but She. Was. In. Your. Way!
NTA.
Story 3: There's NO ONE at work she can go with? Really? She just HAS to ask OP's partner? She's never heard of Uber? She's a grown woman! She can find her own way to work! Plus, she's a good partner to protect her SO from her entitled co-worker!
NTA
Story 4: OP was a bit insensitive here. If he thought his girlfriend wouldn't want the pastry, he could have eaten his in the car.
Small YTA
Story 5: Oh, OP! You have clearly fallen into the trap that other people that have also fallen into when their spouses have pressured them into an open marriage. OP, the "open marriage" was NEVER meant to be open for YOU. Your wife was expecting to have her cake and eat it too while you sat at home alone. She didn't want or expect that you'd find someone to be with. The MOMENT she demanded that you agree to "open" the marriage, it was OVER! All that was left was the crying and swearing, and hiring of attorneys.
NTA
Story 1: You were being kind by calling her a brat. I would have used a different word, the one that starts with a b ends with a h😏
Story 2: Is your wife doing this deliberately in order to upset you? It sure sounds like it. How can she expect you to go through the entrance when she’s standing in the way!😠
Story 3: Is there a mass transit system in your city? Tell your friend to find out and stop bothering you😒
Story 4: It’s hard to stay on a diet when your partner isn’t watching what they eat😢
Story 5: Why is it that the partner who comes up with the idea of “open marriage” wants to close the marriage when they see what a good time their partner is having🙂
story 5: she didn't want an open marriage for him. she wanted to cheat guilt free
story 3: reminds me of a story I heard a while back where op's mother was giving a co-worker a ride to work and home every day. one day co-worker b asked op if she'd be nice to give her and her daughter a ride home from hospital the daughter was in. the little girl ended up throwing up in the car and her mother was very apologetic to op and offered money to clean the car and gas. op's mother understood the little girl was sick and said no to the money, but the co-worker who always had a free ride took some of the money for herself because she felt it was compensation for op's mother driving to the hospital and being late at dropping her off. In the end op's mother told her to start taking public transportation to work, and began giving car rides to co-worker b who btw began giving her gas money and was far nicer than co-worker ... as for the little girl, she recovered from her illness
@@Jerseybytes2 I just love it when the good folks win☺️
Pastry story: Why didn't it occur to anyone that the best option would've been to SHARE the cinnamon roll? You each get your sugar rush at half the calories! Besides, the secret to successful weight loss isn't eliminating your favorite foods, it's being more judicious in how much you eat. One cinnamon roll a week isn't going to make anyone fat...a cinnamon roll every day just might.
Going forward, it is best for OP to allow his partner agency over her food choices, and the polite and thoughtful thing to do would be to call her to ask if she wants a treat. Still NTA, though, since he was still trying to be thoughtful if misguided.
OP LISTENED TO HIS PARTNER! Wow, now he has to pay the price of the internet (man-hating) is now going to tell him everything he SHOULD have done. Y’all are too much, and need to realize that she made a statement and couldn’t hold to it, so she took it out on him and so are the rest of you.
I think it’s hilarious. How bullies switch to victims so fast. I’m sorry, but somebody says that crap to my wife and they’re going to get a face full of fist. I don’t care who it is. You don’t talk like that to the person I love, especially if they’ve done nothing wrong. I would’ve gone so far as to say “you prayed for us to lose our kid, well, I guess karma knew who to hit!“
Weight loss story: NTA. It may not be about the pastry, but she still needs to be held accountable to the diet she chose. If that means no pastry, it means no pastry, and also means she doesn't get the option to say yes. This was a no-win situation for OP, she should never have gotten mad at him for getting himself a treat if his own eating habits allow for it. Plus, it's only 10 pounds. GF only needs two months tops to lose it, she can deal with the temptation.
8:00 What is with the juggler on the zebra crossing?
Busking or panhandling
Story 2: NTA. A kind action done wrong can become a cruel action. She needs to act like she cares if this is helpful to you.
The friend who needs a ride to work, can't drive, did she share the fuel cost for the last year? If no, you know where you stand
Story #1 Calling Karley a spoiled brat is way too light. She should have been shut down.
Wait...the husband was cruel for calling out the sister but it is ok for the sister to make all these horrible comments throughout the years . Am I crazy to think people are just accepting the cruel behavior of this vile sister because it is normal but get all work up when the husband tries to defend his wife?
Last story: open marriage is always the end.
NTA. if your partner is on a diet DO NOT eat goodies in front of them. it's cruel. we should be helping our partners.
Eating it at home & without asking first is thoughtless. It's so hard to resist but harder still when your partner is right there enjoying a treat!!! Respect how hard it can be. Eat treats privately or ask. Or both.
Pastry story- nta. She said she wanted to go on a diet, so op respected that. How is he an AH for not wanting to go on a diet, maybe she should learn to control herself and not blame others for HER issues
Story 3: NTA. I actually recently had this exact same problem, I didn’t have a ride to work. That being said I completely understood that this was on me and me alone. Your friend is using you.
'why does she not drive' I will say about that some people just can't drive and don't do it because they know they will be a danger on the road the person sounds like they like to be driven though is she even paying gas money?
S1: i would have been harsher. Hard c word.
OP NTA. It is really sweet to open and hold the door for someone else. But like you said the way your wife doesn't make any sense at all and it is crazy that she doesn't understand that. What she is doing is not holding the door or is being helpful since no one can go in or out the door way with her standing in the way. You tried to tell her and how to do it properly but she refuses so she can't be surprised that you have had enough. Had it been anyone else they would tell her to, "Get out of the way!! MOVE!!!" I wouldn't loose sleep over it or Apologize. What she has been doing isn't helpful but rude.
'Bakery Booboo': OP *should've called* and asked if she wanted anything - if not cake, maybe some fresh bread...then he's homefree.
Instead, he brought the fresh-baked sweetroll right into their house, the way *he always does* when he gets *them both something.*
Oof... 🤦🏼♀️
2nd story... He should just march on full body check into her when she is blocking the way. She will learn fast enough.
Quit shaming this guy. She's a big baby
Story 1: NTA. Oh Hun, you’ve got a long way to go before you catch up with her level of cruelty. Get this witch out of your life.
Last story. As soon as my husband brought up an open marriage, I would have contacted a lawyer immediately. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. When will people learn.
Pastry: get counseling on how to support your partner, and incidentally learn a bunch about yourself.
I agree with the comments on Story 1. NTA, and OP should’ve gone even further.
Story 1: NTA If the shoe fits as the saying goes you called it as you saw it
Quickest way to ruin a marriage is to “open” it. The one who opens the relationship loses….since she’s not getting ran thru like a tunnel…then you are the problem…pathetic
If OP had asked if partner wanted a pastry she would have been mad that he made her think of pastries and want one thereby being unsupportive of her efforts and completely undermining her goals and they might as well call it quits right here because anyone that would eat pastry while someone else isn't about this time OP's brain starts to explode 🤯😱🥀
Story 3. Did the friend ever pay OP money towards petrol/ travel costs? If not, she's a user. Because when you have a job like that, after getting it, you would naturally thing about moving closer to minimise travel costs.
First story: I would have called her much much much worse. The fact that so many have allowed her to say and be that awful towards her own sister and this is the first time OP let alone ANYONE else ever said anything scathing towards her!? I woulda called her a full on cvnt !!
Story 1 - These people failed their children. They neglected Lauren to spoil karley. Karley needed intervention from a psychologist during her childhood. Karley sounds too unhinged to be a mom and I'd be petty enough to call in wellness checks. She needs to be medicated. Op and his wife need to stop letting this idiot walk into their lives.
Story 2 - she sounds..not too bright. Would this be a deal breaker for me? I think so if this keeps happening over and over. She's dumb or weaponizing incompetence. It just feels too deliberate.
Story 3 - NTA but op needs to beware of the pushover that's about to co-parent with her. If he can't say no to an adult he's going to be useless around the time children need to learn they won't always get their way just because they've upset. Op isn't going to have fun being the bad cop because her partner won't grow a spine.
Story 4 - NTA. She's crying over a pastry. Op doesn't need to secretly pig out on treats to preserve her feelings. She needs to get real. Just because she's on a diet doesn't mean the world goes on a diet too.
Story 5 - 🤦 what I gathered from op's wife's complaining, "I wanted you to stay home as my faithful simp. You weren't supposed to go out and find a girlfriend." Op needs to get a divorce and be with Amanda. This marriage has demoted itself to a sad joke.
I didn't get my driver's license until I was 23 because we didn't have the money to have a teen driver on the insurance, and after that I couldn't afford a car or insurance anyway with the minimum wage jobs I was working. Everyone has different reasons for not getting a license.
Pastry gate: OP said is GF was “talking” about cutting back. Key word: Talking
She obviously hadn’t started to do anything
He should have called to ask or gotten extras.
If she didn’t want any when he got home, that’s more for him. Simple
He went and got 1 thing and brought it home to eat in front of his GF 😂
Did stop to get something she might like from somewhere else 🤷🏾♂️
Pastry stor: NTA he couldn't win no matter what he did, brings a pastry home for herself without asking her he's horrible. Ask her if she wants a pastry/other food when he's getting himself one, well now he's sabotageing her weight loss journy and is a horrible partner. Grabs food for himself and eats it befor getting home and she finds out he's horrible so sneaking around behind her back. We all know with how she reacted to him getting himself a treat that this is exactly how should would react to all the other scenario's
Story 4: NTA. First off, I do get your GF, being denied a warm pastry is the worst. But you were being considerate about what she was going through and you don’t have to diet with her. That being said though, chow down in the car.
S1 How much abuse do you need before you cut contact? after a point the blame is on the op and partner for going back in to take more abuse
Ginger please, nta in the diet story. She said she cutting pastries out, lets just ignore her previous statements. Does this apply to other things like sex?
Story 2. Is she waiting on op to grab the door so she can move out of the way w/o it shutting on him?
Armchair diagnoses like the one with doorway story are annoying.
I was waiting for the inevitable "she might be autistic" comment
The comments may be ignorant, but they do mention mental/brain issues I'm not aware of.
Diet story NTA and the first commentor is absolutely gross. If this is your gf you need to leave. Because if you do get her something she's going to blame you for buying her one and not being supportive. Children here
Last story YTA for actually entertaining this idea. You should have said nothing and divorced her when she brought it up. Your wife is a hypocrite.
Ugh, apple danishes and cinnamon scrolls will always be my downfall
Boyfriend should have offered to split the pastry especially since it's a big one.
Then, she'll accuse him of sabotaging her diet!
He can't win with these obnoxious types!
Story 2: NTA for the issue at hand, but this is very strange. Wife is either doing it on purpose or needs to get checked out.
For the friend who needs a ride story, there are plenty of legitimate reasons why people never learn how to drive. Drivers ed in schools no longer teach them how to drive, its left up to the parents. If she grew up poor or with parwnts that just didnt have the time or an adequate vehicle then she never got that. So assuming a driving school is out of her budget its very reasonable that she just doesnt know how to drive.
Shes still the AH for expecting OP to rearrange her life to drive her, but I doubt she never learned to drive out of pure laziness.
Pastry story. I think he probably could have asked, but i do think he was in a losing situation either way.
Ugh! Save me from purposely incompetent people! Almost every able bodied person is capable of driving, they just don't want to. They've been coddled and enabled to disrupt other people's lives because they don't want to t6ake responsibility for their own transportation. NTA. She needs to grow up!
Also, OP your wife is a real life adult human being and making decisions for her isn't something you are qualified to do. YTA. You should have texted her.
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