Story #1: Stay with the uncle!! If you stay with your parents, they will make you the built in babysitter while she's off at college having a good time. And where is the baby daddy?? Why can't she stay with him? Your uncle is your best choice and go to your grandparents or with your uncle over summer break!
That may be the least-bad solution for OP under the circumstances. OP is going to have to work hard for scholarships because I have a hunch whatever college fund the parents may have set aside for him is going to get used up by the sister and her offspring
S1 - 10 bucks says the sister will be pregnant again within 1 year. Back at college. Parents watching kids. Not enough common sense to use contraception.
How do we know if she was taught about contraption. The country has back tracked to if we don't talk about sex they won't have it. The hate that this poor girl is getting is disgusting. Yes OP is having difficulties with the pregnancy too. But damn people are harsh.
Story 3: OP needs a lawyer ASAP. Assuming it's an actual trust fund, it has a pretty specific set of rules for how that money needs to be used / can be accessed. If the mom can't account for it being spent according to those rules, she's in trouble. Unfortunately if it was set up as a more generic investment or savings fund there's likely nothing that can be done.
100%. Also babies cry, like a lot. I would leave but then again I didn't have many friends in school. The parents have already picked the sister over him so it's not like they can unask him to leave. The rejection isn't going away regardless if you move or not.
@lorilancaster5917 Complaining can work, tank their reputation before you leave. You can bet the parents will come up with a BS excuse to cover this up so for all intents and purposes please tell the truth before you have to leave
Yep better to leave but he really needs to spread the word around as to why he's being shipped off. No need to let his parents frame in a way that they and big sis come out looking golden. It will probably suck to be living with the grandparents but it will suck less than being a live in sitter. There's no way he'll avoid cleaning up after the baby if he's in his parents' house.
Story 4: Your mother has joined a cult, you need to protect your daughter now, before she marries her off to the cult leader. Zero contact till she is out of the cult for at least 12 months.
End times story: my father used to talk about this to me when I was a kid (and continues to try to talk to me about it today) and it has absolutely traumatized me and I have sleepless nights about it 20 years later.. It’s literally my biggest fear, and my dad (to this day) doesn’t understand why this wasn’t appropriate…. Please don’t talk about this to children, it really is traumatic…
Story 2: "She says "does it matter?"" It obviously does which is why she lied about it. A partner who lied to you once will lie to you again. Don't be with someone who will lie to you because there's no trust there..
She's 17 and a child herself. What is screwed up is that she most likely didn't have a choice in having the baby. The parents can't throw her out and if she doesn't finish high school then she and the baby will never be able to survive. While they need to figure it out she shouldn't be abandoned either.
Story 3: OP you need a lawyer now. You need to serve your parents, for any documentation about the trust and your lawyer needs to figure out what if any rules/laws were broken. It sounds to me like your parents used your trust-fund for their mortgage and luxuries for themselves.
Story1: NTA. OP is actually being punished for his sister's mistakes. He's being sent away as if he did something wrong. They aren't doing it to spare him. They are doing it to have one less mouth to feed and so he's not in the way. They see him as an extra burden to deal with and don't care about his feelings or well-being on this matter. He's not being selfish to not want to be kicked out of his own home and sent across the country. The parents are making it very clear he's unwanted. Usually its younger girls who get punished for their older sisters' misbehavior. My mother was essentially grounded until she was 18 because two of her older sisters got pregnant. I've had friends who were grounded bc their sisters got knocked up. I do disagree that the sister should be sent away because she got knocked up. She's still a minor and doesn't have the impulse control of an adult. Clearly the parents didn't teach her about protection or being responsible. But sending the OP away is also wrong. The parents suck.
Probably a lot more than that, frankly. I'd be No Contact at 18 if my parents had tried to pull such a stunt. Of course, my mother would have dropped Sissy off in front of Planned Parenthood the moment it became clear Sissy was planning to stay.
S3: If, as OPs dad says, "Family is more important than money", he shouldn't have any problem with paying OP back the money to keep the family together then.
Story3: NTA. Not only should OP keep her daughter away from her mother, she may need to get a restraining order. Sounds like the mom joined one of those death cults or something. She's unhinged. Born Agains can be bad enough but believing the end times are nigh is a sign of things going bad fast. If the daughter has school then OP needs to let the school know that grandma isn't allowed access to the child. The other family members siding with the mother can pound sand. This is dangerous crap to be teaching to a young child and it's the sort of thing that leads to problems with differentiating fact from fiction later in life. It starts with the mom indoctrinating the kid and then she starts taking the kid to church meetings and eventually offers her up to the cult leader. Or at least starts teaching her things that are usually damaging the the self esteem of females. Probably one of those things where they say females are inferior and must be subservient. and if the mother will indoctrinate the child against OP's will, she will do other things that undermine OP's parenting. OP does not need someone undermining her as a parent. Time to find a new babysitter and block the mother.
Story 5: NTA, your half-brother needed therapy as a child to fix this. The fact it has ignored till now, means it will likely never improve, since they can not force him into therapy anymore. They want to take action 20 plus years to late.
It seems likely that as a kid he was pushed too hard to 'love' his 'new siblings.' Too many step-families seem to do this rather than letting relationships grow organically.
You're allowed to have a past and all, but if it were a man who lied to a woman in order to manipulate her into marriage and save his own reputation nobody would even consider defending him. The fact she lied to Op proves she refuses to be held accountable for or face the consequences of her actions. Screw off with your double standards, "It was in the past" my ass. Acting like if a man said "Yeah I paid women for intimacy and I exploited them to get what I want but it's in the past" was actually an acceptable argument.
Right! A past makes a person who they ste. If it didn't, how you were raised would have no effect on ANYTHING you do as an adult, moral compass, trauma, etc. He'll if my brothers was out here paying for it, I'd side eye them cause, umm.... People can do whatever they want with their bodies, but when you plan to be in a serious relationship, be upfront about it so the person can make a well-informed decision. No one cares about the number unless it's crazy. They care about being lied to.
1: Threaten to call CPS if your parents keep pressing you to leave your home to accommodate your pregnant sister😠 2: Given your reaction, I can see why she didn’t tell you about her past🙁 3: Your mother stole from you. Get a lawyer and sue her! 4: This sounds like some kind of Jim Jones thing. Don’t let your daughter spend anymore time with your mother😟 5: Your parents didn’t want to know this, something that often happens within a blended family😒
Story 2: The problem isn't her past the problem is she lied by omission by not telling OP about it, maybe it's the only thing they didn't tell OP maybe there's more that they left out, OP will never know, and because they left such a big part of their past out OP isn't sure they can trust their partner anymore, that's why lying by omission is so bad, it makes people wonder what else you're leaving out.
She did also lie by commission, by telling OP she had one ex when she considered the sugar baby situations to be relationships! And she did it for years, too. It definitely would make me worry what else she's been lying about!
Let's be honest it is about her actual past as much as it is the lying. We have got to stop pretending these sugar baby situations are anything other than prostitution by a different name. Let's be real she was sleeping with all three of those guys while they were paying for her. OP doesn't know if she used protection, had a termination that could possibly effect her future fertility, or if she had or has one or more STDs. She didn't just rob him of informed consent, she possibly put his health at risk, depending on how close the beginning of their relationship (if you can call it that) it was. Even if she says there was a buffer of years how can he take her word for it since she's seemingly had zero issues lying to him for over 5 yrs nor does she seem remorseful at all for it.
@margaretjohnson6259 Where did I say that? Shows you don't listen to what men are saying either, promiscuity isn't to be celebrated by either party. This myth that men have always had dozens of women is hysterically idiotic. Vast majority of men throughout history have NEVER been ultra successful in that arena. People like yourself that continue to peddle this ridiculous narrative that men are as promiscuous as women despite the fact that women have ALWAYS held the keys to sex is hilariously hypocritical. You continue to conflate the behavior of the top 1% of men with the behavior of the majority of us despite going apoplectic when men do the same to women painting them with same broad brush. Who's the real hypocrite here.
She lied to you and did so in order to manipulate and get what she wanted. She blew up all your trust in seconds. If she had no issues with her actions then she would've been completely honest. I would struggle to get past knowing my partner lied to me our whole relationship.
Amazing how people call him the idiot. His wife was basically a prostitute and I can well understand why he would never have dated her. I’d hate to have a DIL who was an ex 304.
@@wplains No basically about, sugar babies ARE prostitutes. It's exchanging sex for monetary gain that's the very definition of the world's oldest profession. She didn't just rob him of informed consent she could've very also put his health at risk if she was still sleeping with all these guys up until she met OP. There's no guarantees she's not STILL engaging with this behavior. There was a very successful spinal surgeon, absolute gigachad, tall, fit, very good looking, & at the top of his field. Not long after getting married found out his beauty queen bride was actually an escort & never stopped. She got arrested in a vice sting operation.
When men sleep around it's fine but when women sleep around they're whores? Because that's what the story and these comments sound like to me. Hypocrites, all of you. Lying is one thing, op has every right to be upset about that, but saying someone is too loose to love... smh.
Cultist grandma: Excellent momma bear, OP! Spiritual abuse is REAL, but is usually not taken seriously. Religion, like sexuality, must be discussed with children in AGE-APPROPRIATE terms, and, like sex, there are certain religious topics which shouldn't be discussed with kids until they're old enough to understand. Among these are things like the "apocalypse," "sacrifice," and especially "hell." I was introduced to these things at way too young of an age and it messed me up both mentally and spiritually for decades (im okay now, tho, and i even still believe in God😊). Religious freedom is one thing, but using God's wrath to threaten one's children, or grandchildren, should be worth a CPS intervention.
It's pretty significant to hold back that you were a prostitute from your spouse. People...change, but she robbed the OP the information he needed to make a well-informed decision about who he wanted to spend his life with. I've been there and it's really a bothersome thing that eats away at you for years.
@@KadeStringer2.0 So you don't care what a person did before they met you? Drug dealer, murderer, rapist, philanderer, prostitute? None of that matters?
@@KadeStringer2.0 That's the same mindset that cheaters use when they are caught years after they cheated. Of course the past matters, otherwise she would have been up front about it.
Why is it that in stories like #1 the people put "you should think about family not the money" on the person who is least greedy and who doesn't screw over family members? It says a lot that the mother doesn't even tell OP where the money is, just that "oh honey, unlike your siblings, you won't even need the money that would help you build your future". Even if OP was a crayon-eating idiot (which they clearly are not) that money is needed to secure their life.
Story 1: if OP stays how does the familial relationship recover from the fact that his parents wanted to throw him away Story 3: sounds like bro and dad were the biggest beneficiaries of the trust.
EXACTLY!!! OP doesn't know if she used protection, had a termination that could possibly effect her future fertility, or if she had or has one or more STDs. She didn't just rob him of informed consent, she possibly put his health at risk, depending on how close the beginning of their relationship (if you can call it that) it was. Even if she says there was a buffer of years how can he take her word for it since she's seemingly had zero issues lying to him for over 5 yrs nor does she seem remorseful at all for it. There's no guarantee that she's not still engaging witb this behavior. It baffles me how women say the past doesn't matter for themselves but would absolutely judge a womanizer. This society is cooked.
@@bhart3321"She was in open, different relationships. That means she's a cheater and a liar and full of STDs!" You're the man women run from. Stay miserable
Story 2- the wife slept with people for money and was basically a hokr. She took his right away. There is a difference between having a bf and just going around town with men for money He also had ASKED her and she lied. She cant be trusted. He needs a divorce
@@ghostdragon5735the ones that get expensive items are the ones that tend to do that though. The fact she had multiple expensive items from multiple guys lets us make an educated guess which she was.
Because "DoN't ShAmE wOmEn" I'm sorry sugar babies aka prostitutes should be shamed. She knew it would be a possible deal breaker & she robbed him of informed consent. Do you think if the genders were reversed & the husband was a gigolo would anyone be blaming the OP, nooope they'd be telling her to run cuz he exposed her to god knows what but hey it's perfectly ok for a woman to do the same to a man right.
Story 2- Op's wife needs to own her past. She doesn't even have to say it was a sugar baby past, but just say she liked rich guys when she was young because she grew up without money (if that is true). But she KNEW that past did not align with Op's morals, so she decided to dig herself in deeper and lie on top of it. I personally wouldn't care, but Op DOES, and that is all that is important. He will probably file for divorce. I don't think counseling will allow them to continue. It may make him more understanding of why she did it, but the lying is too much, and for such a long time.
or i mean its none of his fucking buisiness? was he there during the time? no, does it have anything to do with him no, for we all know her sugar daddies were old men who literally wanted compny not all of them are fucknig the sugar daddies,
Yeah, if The Baby Mama is gonna be at home, then The Opie should *want* to be elsewhere, else he'll get drafted into being an unpaid babysitter while The Baby Mama goes 304ing around at will.
I suspect this is another case where the parents tried to force a relationship, even though the half-brother is 10 years older than OP. We're just seeing it from the POV of the new half-sibs. This sounds like the flip side of one of those posts where the poster says "AITA because I told my father and step-mother I don't want my half-sibs at my wedding?"
Story 2: Let's be honest it is about her actual past as much as it is the lying. We have got to stop pretending these sugar baby situations are anything other than prostitution by a different name. Let's be real she was sleeping with all three of those guys while they were paying for her. OP doesn't know if she used protection, had a termination that could possibly effect her future fertility, or if she had or has one or more STDs. She didn't just rob him of informed consent, she possibly put his health at risk, depending on how close the beginning of their relationship (if you can call it that) it was. Even if she says there was a buffer of years how can he take her word for it since she's seemingly had zero issues lying to him for their entire relationship nor does she seem remorseful at all about doing it.
She didn't put his health more at risk. Thats so stupid it hurts. She's not more likely to get pregnant screwing three guys once a week than one guy three times a week. If he cared about STDs, he could have gotten a test. You just like to judge women for how they have to survive
Story 1: Based lil' bro politely saying that his older sister is smart but has no sense XDD NTA, good lord. No OP should not have to move cross-country because his sister got pregnant! Sis and baby can share her room. OP will be college age by the time baby is old enough to get their own room, this is a non-issue room-wise.
My aunty Ishbell set up education trusts for me and my sisters. As she was a lawyers she locked it into an offshore bank and nobody but us and rhe law firm could communicate about it. If we wanted school we got school. If there was any left at age 25 we got it delivered to our banks
Story about trust fund stolen my mom. 1) it’s illegal to steal the funds 2) son is liable for the money taken and he should have been sent a k1. the IRS could come after him for those funds as disbursement from a trust is taxable
The comments to the first story is ridiculous. They know why the sister is staying. No child should be kicked out, and their desire to punish a 17 year old is weird. The simple answer is that no baby needs a room of their own
Story 2. Last commenter is toxic, abusive ve and dishonest. Were i op id now not have much trust, as much as anything because she has said she will lie/withold if she thinksher actions will have consequences. How can you trust after that?
Religious mom story, I'm a Christian and what you definitely should NOT do is jump straight into talk of the end times with a CHILD who has no prior history with church and your religion. That's fearmongering. Don't do that, for goodness sake. Even if the child had grown up with that religious background you should be teaching in a child-safe manner, not scaring the daylights out of them.
Story2: What the mother did was actually criminal. She stole that money and used it for a purpose other than intended. OP could go to the police and report the theft as well as sue the crap out of her mother for however much was in there. But an attorney would cost money so she would also have to sue for legal fees. The mother just wanted to spend that $ for herself and she's now gaslighting OP. NTA. If family is more important than money then the parents should pay OP back every single dime that was stolen from her trust fund plus interest. I'm guessing the brother's trust fund wasn't pilfered if he's siding with the parents. At the very least they should have asked OP. I'm wondering if this $ was spent before she was 25 or after it was supposed to go to her. Either way it's still wrong and criminal. Sounds like the mother chose money over OP. I hope OP presses charges and sues the crap out of the parents (the father is obviously complicit). I'd absolutely go completely NC with them regardless at this point because they think it's OK to steal from OP. It really sucks when parents do this to their kids. My best friend had an entire house stolen from him by his Mom. She somehow illegally had his name and his father's name taken off of it even though it was left to him. She was never married to his father. But the records only show the house in her name now. To make matters worse, she even tricked him into sinking a bunch of time and $$$ into it by telling him she'd sign it over to him if he fixed it up. She hadn't paid taxes on it and it had become a meth house. The floors fell out and it should have been condemned. We helped him pay off the back taxes, keep paying the new property taxes, and fix the place up to be nice. Then she decided to renege and is moving into it. I think she still expects him to pay the bills even though he and his wife moved out. All of the agreements were verbal so he has nothing in writing to take to court.
1-NTA but you need to think about being a live in babysitter. I'd be moving to grandmas and blocking the parents. 2-YTA 3-NTA. Time to straighten mom out with a lawsuit to reclaim that money! 4-NTA You need to shut that crap down ASAP! Find another sitter and don't let mom near your daughter without supervision! 5-NTA rents are full on delulu.
Why is the second OP TA? Not wanting to date, let alone marry, a prostitute is a very reasonable boundary. His marriage is based on a lie. I thought Reddit hated liars?
Ugh kid the money was to raise you then the money was used on you. It may or may not been intended for college or a house but ultimately if it was used on you then mom in the clear but there seems to be a possibility money was routed to bro. If that the case op, full speed ahead! Sue , make issues, yada! If bro got any money that should have been directed to you but wasn’t yeah makes them regret that they bleeped around and found out!
Story 1.....I'd just look at my parents and tell them you know shipping me off is child abandonment and CPS will take both Sister and her baby if I notify them right.
You are being ridiculous. It is not abandonment. He is being sent to live with relatives due to the situation. He is being being provided with a home and care. Just not the one he prefers. CPS will laugh at you.
@@SPJPapasan I'm the grandparent who had two of my grandkids sent to live with me and guess what their parents rights were TERMINATED for ABANDONMENT....if your child lives with someone else and they are financially providing for them for a period of 6 months it is legally considered ABANDONMENT. Shocker you can't just hand off your kids like they are a puppy.
I'm not going to trust anyone that grills me on my previous relationships, That line of questioning is the first red flag when it comes to them being insecure.
It’s not her previous relationships, it’s her previous work history. She was a prostitute. She exchanged sexual favors for monetary gain. The fact that that monetary gain was in the form of expensive goods and services rather than direct cash payments is immaterial. It’s not insecure to say that a history of sex work is a hard no. There’s no red flag on his part.
@@naoko7184 not all of them sleep witrh the people, you can be a sugar baby and just go on dates with people for the company, any bets if its was turned around people wouldnt say shit if the guy wasa a gigolo
Exactly. I knew my late wife was sexually active before she met me but we discussed our previous relationships as soon as we started getting serious about our relationship. I decided that as long as we were faithful to each other that previous relationships didn't matter.
It absolutely does matter. Having sex in loving relationships is not the same as prostitution. It's showing that money is more important to her than love and her own physical health.
That is BS. People don't have to justify not wanting to be with someone becuse of thier past. that's not point. She knew OP wouldn't have even dated her, if knew she was a sex worker. thatshe 's why tired to gaslight him. If it was abouther cheating in the past , there would've been only NTAs. The BS of calling not wanting to date a ex-sex worker, A"punishment". This is emtrapment . Only people full of crap would say "Everything is based on the fact she broke your deal breaker. she lied so that Op would be with her for years. So how dare he say the truth out loud.". A truth they both knew. You can tell someone is full crap when go " it shouldn't be a big, and no one should care", at the instead of finding someone that will not care, he/she tries to shame the people that do into not caring a deal breaker ,lie about it or both(in this post).
S2: A woman’s past matters, it tells you about her values and future. It is proven that women with high body counts have difficulty pair bonding and can more easily cheat.
@@ghostdragon5735Absolutely. You can substitute man for every place it says woman in the comment and it is just as true. It’s just that in this particular case the liar was a woman, so the comment says woman.
But she was correct that had you known the full extent of her past you would not have continued the relationship! So she was right in her assumption fyi!
If she would have told him the truth from the start she would not have put herself in the position of having him judge her for her past! She lied… by omission! Should she leave… would be her choice but she is still the blame for what is happening!
@richrosegold610 she lied about who she was??? He doesn't need to be with anyone that was a prostitute. Past or not he doesn't need to stay and if its okay to have that past than she can find someone else to be with who would be okay with said past, since its not a big deal apparently. People are allowed to have their own opinions and morals.
st 2: sugar, babies and sugar daddies don’t always have a sexual relationship. That’s why she said it was like a relationship not that they were in a relationship. Sometimes the older man or older woman just want someone young to talk to or just have around and they give them gifts. She might have had a sexual relationship with one of them hence the words she had one X that is not a lie, but to turn around and say, I would’ve never asked you out and then call her an escort when she was not an escort is irritating.
@@TailsFanThey’re different for the fact that work escorts you can have multiple clients at a time and it’s typically just for a night/short time. With sugar babies, most of them don’t want you seeing other sugar daddies (they don’t care so much if you have a boyfriend) and it’s longer term.
story 2. so the man can have all the lovers he wants, but a woman can't? since when? so she lied because men get so upset over a woman's past lovers and, frankly, she can do so much better than that numty husband of hers.
@@hannijr6120 what do you think being a wife was and still mostly is? selling herself to a man for money and security. until the 1970s women were the property of men in the usa. i guess you'd rather marry a woman who gave sex away for free.
I don't think that at 14 I'd like to be in a small house with a newborn. It sucks to move, I had to a lot. But better at the beginning of high school than the middle of it. Everyone is being very hard on the parents. Plus it's very important that the sister gets an education too or she'll never be able to support herself and the child. These situations are becoming common because of the current political climate.
Story #2: The wife did not lie. Sugar baby and daddies are a business transaction, not an emotional sexual relationship. I get why OP is upset but he is wrong to claim she lied to him.
People need to stop clutching their pearls about sex work. It's WORK. How do we know he's as innocent as he makes himself out to be? After all, we only have OP's word for it.
People are allowed to CHOOSE who they have relationships with. His boundary of not dating, let alone marrying, prostitutes is a very reasonable one. You may be perfectly willing to date sex workers - that’s fine, you do you. But you get to choose for yourself, not for others. They are free to make choices you don’t agree with, and do not deserve to be mocked for it. By lying to him she took away his ability to make choices that were in his best interest.
The past is the past doesn't matter, ok so does that mean if they've been convicted for a serious crime and spend time in prison does that mean that shouldn't matter. People are allowed to make decisions with all the information especially when it comes to picking a partner. By not telling him she lied by omission
@@juliearmfield2634Thank you! I'm not saying she should die alone. But her actions absolutely does matter. If reflects her values. Money is more important than love and her own physical health.
@@juliearmfield2634you got a point there . I had an ex who accused me of drugs and told on my sister for vaping. I just left her and I told her that what I do doesn’t matter and my can’t define . I also told her that I never did drugs . I didn’t told her that I vaped so she couldn’t used it against me.
She absolutely does have something to apologize for (but she won’t - she’ll play the victim). She conned him into marrying her. He is harmed because he wasted time and money on her and now she gets to take half his stuff when he divorces her. That makes her a POS.
S2) yta. Get over yourself dude. It's in the past. You married her now deal with it. Put your big boy pants on and realize that the past is in the past. I hope she divorces you
Story #1: Stay with the uncle!! If you stay with your parents, they will make you the built in babysitter while she's off at college having a good time. And where is the baby daddy?? Why can't she stay with him? Your uncle is your best choice and go to your grandparents or with your uncle over summer break!
That may be the least-bad solution for OP under the circumstances. OP is going to have to work hard for scholarships because I have a hunch whatever college fund the parents may have set aside for him is going to get used up by the sister and her offspring
@condorboss. What if the uncle sends him to Granny & Grandpa? I don't think the uncle wants OP either
S1 - 10 bucks says the sister will be pregnant again within 1 year. Back at college. Parents watching kids. Not enough common sense to use contraception.
How do we know if she was taught about contraption. The country has back tracked to if we don't talk about sex they won't have it. The hate that this poor girl is getting is disgusting. Yes OP is having difficulties with the pregnancy too. But damn people are harsh.
I'll raise you 20 that she won't graduate college
@@natashamwangi4890 I'll toss in another 20 that in 10 years she's fat has 4-5 kids and going from Boyfriend to Boyfriend whining about her life.
Story 3: This is inheritance fraud and extremely illegal
Family is more important than money. That’s why family shouldn’t steal it from each other.
Always call the cops. Even on your mom. Maybe especially on your mom. You're supposed to be able to trust your mom.
Yeah, it's ironic that she couldn't be 'trusted' for watching over a trust!
Story 3: OP needs a lawyer ASAP. Assuming it's an actual trust fund, it has a pretty specific set of rules for how that money needs to be used / can be accessed. If the mom can't account for it being spent according to those rules, she's in trouble. Unfortunately if it was set up as a more generic investment or savings fund there's likely nothing that can be done.
Trust fund story, speak to a lawyer. Your mother stole your money. She's a thief. NTA
OP was only an AH for posting this story first.
I'd have asked dear old dad , when he spouted off the old "Family" bullcrap, "then how come family wasn't important when you stole my money?".
@@Procrastinator1948because let’s face it, when the mom said bills she really meant trips and splurges
@@lorilancaster5917 OP is not an AH for wanting to be assured that they aren't going crazy for thinking what she did was wrong.
@@lorilancaster5917eh more like uninformed, they didn't even think about suing them as a option.
If op stay, op would be made as a babysitter. Better leave.
100%. Also babies cry, like a lot. I would leave but then again I didn't have many friends in school.
The parents have already picked the sister over him so it's not like they can unask him to leave. The rejection isn't going away regardless if you move or not.
And what would complaining to teachers and others accomplish? They aren’t abusing OP. They are just AHs.
@lorilancaster5917 Complaining can work, tank their reputation before you leave. You can bet the parents will come up with a BS excuse to cover this up so for all intents and purposes please tell the truth before you have to leave
Yep better to leave but he really needs to spread the word around as to why he's being shipped off. No need to let his parents frame in a way that they and big sis come out looking golden. It will probably suck to be living with the grandparents but it will suck less than being a live in sitter. There's no way he'll avoid cleaning up after the baby if he's in his parents' house.
@@lorilancaster5917 they are trying to make a minor homeless... getting cps/the cop involve is what complaining gonna do
Story 4: Your mother has joined a cult, you need to protect your daughter now, before she marries her off to the cult leader. Zero contact till she is out of the cult for at least 12 months.
End times story: my father used to talk about this to me when I was a kid (and continues to try to talk to me about it today) and it has absolutely traumatized me and I have sleepless nights about it 20 years later.. It’s literally my biggest fear, and my dad (to this day) doesn’t understand why this wasn’t appropriate….
Please don’t talk about this to children, it really is traumatic…
Fiduciary negligence is a felony. It’s shocking how many people don’t understand this when they steal funds from a trust.
Story 2: "She says "does it matter?"" It obviously does which is why she lied about it. A partner who lied to you once will lie to you again. Don't be with someone who will lie to you because there's no trust there..
Supportive? OP is 14. Why do they need to be supportive? She screwed up, not OP.
She's 17 and a child herself. What is screwed up is that she most likely didn't have a choice in having the baby. The parents can't throw her out and if she doesn't finish high school then she and the baby will never be able to survive. While they need to figure it out she shouldn't be abandoned either.
OP not being supportive is not the equivalent of abandonment. He has zero obligations here.
Story 3: OP you need a lawyer now. You need to serve your parents, for any documentation about the trust and your lawyer needs to figure out what if any rules/laws were broken. It sounds to me like your parents used your trust-fund for their mortgage and luxuries for themselves.
Story1: NTA. OP is actually being punished for his sister's mistakes. He's being sent away as if he did something wrong. They aren't doing it to spare him. They are doing it to have one less mouth to feed and so he's not in the way. They see him as an extra burden to deal with and don't care about his feelings or well-being on this matter. He's not being selfish to not want to be kicked out of his own home and sent across the country. The parents are making it very clear he's unwanted. Usually its younger girls who get punished for their older sisters' misbehavior. My mother was essentially grounded until she was 18 because two of her older sisters got pregnant. I've had friends who were grounded bc their sisters got knocked up. I do disagree that the sister should be sent away because she got knocked up. She's still a minor and doesn't have the impulse control of an adult. Clearly the parents didn't teach her about protection or being responsible. But sending the OP away is also wrong. The parents suck.
Story 1 their golden child is giving them a grandchild
Story 3: File a lawsuit
Story 1. OPs parents are willing to lose 4 years of their child's life for OPs sister and her baby. There is no going back if that decision is made.
Probably a lot more than that, frankly. I'd be No Contact at 18 if my parents had tried to pull such a stunt. Of course, my mother would have dropped Sissy off in front of Planned Parenthood the moment it became clear Sissy was planning to stay.
It's more than 4 years. They don't plan on seeing OP ever again.
S3: If, as OPs dad says, "Family is more important than money", he shouldn't have any problem with paying OP back the money to keep the family together then.
He’s 27 and married. He’s not a child.
Story3: NTA. Not only should OP keep her daughter away from her mother, she may need to get a restraining order. Sounds like the mom joined one of those death cults or something. She's unhinged. Born Agains can be bad enough but believing the end times are nigh is a sign of things going bad fast. If the daughter has school then OP needs to let the school know that grandma isn't allowed access to the child. The other family members siding with the mother can pound sand. This is dangerous crap to be teaching to a young child and it's the sort of thing that leads to problems with differentiating fact from fiction later in life. It starts with the mom indoctrinating the kid and then she starts taking the kid to church meetings and eventually offers her up to the cult leader. Or at least starts teaching her things that are usually damaging the the self esteem of females. Probably one of those things where they say females are inferior and must be subservient. and if the mother will indoctrinate the child against OP's will, she will do other things that undermine OP's parenting. OP does not need someone undermining her as a parent. Time to find a new babysitter and block the mother.
Story 5: NTA, your half-brother needed therapy as a child to fix this. The fact it has ignored till now, means it will likely never improve, since they can not force him into therapy anymore. They want to take action 20 plus years to late.
It seems likely that as a kid he was pushed too hard to 'love' his 'new siblings.' Too many step-families seem to do this rather than letting relationships grow organically.
You're allowed to have a past and all, but if it were a man who lied to a woman in order to manipulate her into marriage and save his own reputation nobody would even consider defending him. The fact she lied to Op proves she refuses to be held accountable for or face the consequences of her actions.
Screw off with your double standards, "It was in the past" my ass. Acting like if a man said "Yeah I paid women for intimacy and I exploited them to get what I want but it's in the past" was actually an acceptable argument.
Right! A past makes a person who they ste. If it didn't, how you were raised would have no effect on ANYTHING you do as an adult, moral compass, trauma, etc. He'll if my brothers was out here paying for it, I'd side eye them cause, umm.... People can do whatever they want with their bodies, but when you plan to be in a serious relationship, be upfront about it so the person can make a well-informed decision. No one cares about the number unless it's crazy. They care about being lied to.
1: Threaten to call CPS if your parents keep pressing you to leave your home to accommodate your pregnant sister😠
2: Given your reaction, I can see why she didn’t tell you about her past🙁
3: Your mother stole from you. Get a lawyer and sue her!
4: This sounds like some kind of Jim Jones thing. Don’t let your daughter spend anymore time with your mother😟
5: Your parents didn’t want to know this, something that often happens within a blended family😒
Trust fund: You need to file charges and sue, sue, and sue!
Story 2: The problem isn't her past the problem is she lied by omission by not telling OP about it, maybe it's the only thing they didn't tell OP maybe there's more that they left out, OP will never know, and because they left such a big part of their past out OP isn't sure they can trust their partner anymore, that's why lying by omission is so bad, it makes people wonder what else you're leaving out.
She did also lie by commission, by telling OP she had one ex when she considered the sugar baby situations to be relationships! And she did it for years, too. It definitely would make me worry what else she's been lying about!
Let's be honest it is about her actual past as much as it is the lying. We have got to stop pretending these sugar baby situations are anything other than prostitution by a different name.
Let's be real she was sleeping with all three of those guys while they were paying for her. OP doesn't know if she used protection, had a termination that could possibly effect her future fertility, or if she had or has one or more STDs.
She didn't just rob him of informed consent, she possibly put his health at risk, depending on how close the beginning of their relationship (if you can call it that) it was. Even if she says there was a buffer of years how can he take her word for it since she's seemingly had zero issues lying to him for over 5 yrs nor does she seem remorseful at all for it.
why does it matter? how come women are supposed to be virgins, but men can cat around all they like? she deserves better than that man.
@@bhart3321 but HE can have a couple dozen love affairs and that's fine, right? good grief. double standard,.
@margaretjohnson6259 Where did I say that? Shows you don't listen to what men are saying either, promiscuity isn't to be celebrated by either party. This myth that men have always had dozens of women is hysterically idiotic.
Vast majority of men throughout history have NEVER been ultra successful in that arena. People like yourself that continue to peddle this ridiculous narrative that men are as promiscuous as women despite the fact that women have ALWAYS held the keys to sex is hilariously hypocritical.
You continue to conflate the behavior of the top 1% of men with the behavior of the majority of us despite going apoplectic when men do the same to women painting them with same broad brush. Who's the real hypocrite here.
S2: She’ll do anything? Total sugar baby mindset…
She lied to you and did so in order to manipulate and get what she wanted. She blew up all your trust in seconds. If she had no issues with her actions then she would've been completely honest. I would struggle to get past knowing my partner lied to me our whole relationship.
Amazing how people call him the idiot. His wife was basically a prostitute and I can well understand why he would never have dated her. I’d hate to have a DIL who was an ex 304.
@@wplains No basically about, sugar babies ARE prostitutes. It's exchanging sex for monetary gain that's the very definition of the world's oldest profession.
She didn't just rob him of informed consent she could've very also put his health at risk if she was still sleeping with all these guys up until she met OP.
There's no guarantees she's not STILL engaging with this behavior. There was a very successful spinal surgeon, absolute gigachad, tall, fit, very good looking, & at the top of his field. Not long after getting married found out his beauty queen bride was actually an escort & never stopped. She got arrested in a vice sting operation.
@@wplainsYeah, garbage men usually understand garabge men
When men sleep around it's fine but when women sleep around they're whores? Because that's what the story and these comments sound like to me.
Hypocrites, all of you. Lying is one thing, op has every right to be upset about that, but saying someone is too loose to love... smh.
Cultist grandma: Excellent momma bear, OP! Spiritual abuse is REAL, but is usually not taken seriously. Religion, like sexuality, must be discussed with children in AGE-APPROPRIATE terms, and, like sex, there are certain religious topics which shouldn't be discussed with kids until they're old enough to understand. Among these are things like the "apocalypse," "sacrifice," and especially "hell." I was introduced to these things at way too young of an age and it messed me up both mentally and spiritually for decades (im okay now, tho, and i even still believe in God😊). Religious freedom is one thing, but using God's wrath to threaten one's children, or grandchildren, should be worth a CPS intervention.
Religious indoctrination is the original child abuse.
It's pretty significant to hold back that you were a prostitute from your spouse. People...change, but she robbed the OP the information he needed to make a well-informed decision about who he wanted to spend his life with.
I've been there and it's really a bothersome thing that eats away at you for years.
The past doesn’t matter
@@KadeStringer2.0 So you don't care what a person did before they met you? Drug dealer, murderer, rapist, philanderer, prostitute? None of that matters?
@@KadeStringer2.0 That's the same mindset that cheaters use when they are caught years after they cheated. Of course the past matters, otherwise she would have been up front about it.
@@KadeStringer2.0 Of course it matters. If it didn't she wouldn't have hid it.
And also if OP didn’t ask about the jewelry, would she have ever came clean?
2:55 Dude is upset he unknowingly married a prostitute and Reddit is giving him crap about it? Give me a break.
Women good men bad
dude needs to run, he has no idea if she quit or not
It matters because she hid from him. If it didn't matter she would not hide.
Oh please, there is nothing wrong with what she did. Dating and marriage is pretty much being an exclusive prostitute of one man.
@@AnHeCif she really believed that, why did she lie?
Also, prostitution is by all means, not exclusive.
Why is it that in stories like #1 the people put "you should think about family not the money" on the person who is least greedy and who doesn't screw over family members? It says a lot that the mother doesn't even tell OP where the money is, just that "oh honey, unlike your siblings, you won't even need the money that would help you build your future". Even if OP was a crayon-eating idiot (which they clearly are not) that money is needed to secure their life.
That's Story 3, not 1
That last commenter on #2 is quite the AH
Bro your uncle is going 'take you to see the place' and leave you there.
Story 1: if OP stays how does the familial relationship recover from the fact that his parents wanted to throw him away
Story 3: sounds like bro and dad were the biggest beneficiaries of the trust.
Flip the genders on the Sugar baby story. Clear NTA
EXACTLY!!! OP doesn't know if she used protection, had a termination that could possibly effect her future fertility, or if she had or has one or more STDs.
She didn't just rob him of informed consent, she possibly put his health at risk, depending on how close the beginning of their relationship (if you can call it that) it was. Even if she says there was a buffer of years how can he take her word for it since she's seemingly had zero issues lying to him for over 5 yrs nor does she seem remorseful at all for it.
There's no guarantee that she's not still engaging witb this behavior. It baffles me how women say the past doesn't matter for themselves but would absolutely judge a womanizer. This society is cooked.
@@bhart3321"She was in open, different relationships. That means she's a cheater and a liar and full of STDs!" You're the man women run from. Stay miserable
Story 2- the wife slept with people for money and was basically a hokr.
She took his right away. There is a difference between having a bf and just going around town with men for money
He also had ASKED her and she lied.
She cant be trusted.
He needs a divorce
Every time she picks up a jewelry she is thinking of one of the men she was in a 'relationship' with.
When she wears them, their there with op too.
You know sugar babies don’t all sleep around rugjtb
@@ghostdragon5735 Who cares? At best you are a pre paid gold digger.
@@ghostdragon5735the ones that get expensive items are the ones that tend to do that though. The fact she had multiple expensive items from multiple guys lets us make an educated guess which she was.
@@ghostdragon5735like if it was just one, we could say she just found one of those lonely old man that likes the company. But no it was multiple
Second story.. how is the man in the wrong in any way? At least there were some sane commenters
Because "DoN't ShAmE wOmEn" I'm sorry sugar babies aka prostitutes should be shamed. She knew it would be a possible deal breaker & she robbed him of informed consent. Do you think if the genders were reversed & the husband was a gigolo would anyone be blaming the OP, nooope they'd be telling her to run cuz he exposed her to god knows what but hey it's perfectly ok for a woman to do the same to a man right.
Story 2- Op's wife needs to own her past. She doesn't even have to say it was a sugar baby past, but just say she liked rich guys when she was young because she grew up without money (if that is true).
But she KNEW that past did not align with Op's morals, so she decided to dig herself in deeper and lie on top of it.
I personally wouldn't care, but Op DOES, and that is all that is important. He will probably file for divorce. I don't think counseling will allow them to continue. It may make him more understanding of why she did it, but the lying is too much, and for such a long time.
or i mean its none of his fucking buisiness? was he there during the time? no, does it have anything to do with him no, for we all know her sugar daddies were old men who literally wanted compny not all of them are fucknig the sugar daddies,
25-year-old: "My half siblings aren't my real family"
Parents: "What a silly little goober, I'm sure he'll grow out of it soon ☺️"
Yeah, if The Baby Mama is gonna be at home, then The Opie should *want* to be elsewhere, else he'll get drafted into being an unpaid babysitter while The Baby Mama goes 304ing around at will.
You get the negative vote for the last peart of the sentence. There is nothing in the story that indicates the girl is promiscuous. You are the AH.
Last story: Are they affair babies? because if both mom and dad are both this dense it makes me wonder why both kids have sense.
They ran out of the delulu lemonade. Now they’re sipping on the delulu punch
I don't think so, his mom died
But It seems that the brother never got propper grief counceling as a kid.
@@HelleVirenfeldt well OP Parents will be in shocked when OP And brother are going get LNC with them
I suspect this is another case where the parents tried to force a relationship, even though the half-brother is 10 years older than OP. We're just seeing it from the POV of the new half-sibs. This sounds like the flip side of one of those posts where the poster says "AITA because I told my father and step-mother I don't want my half-sibs at my wedding?"
Story 2: Let's be honest it is about her actual past as much as it is the lying. We have got to stop pretending these sugar baby situations are anything other than prostitution by a different name.
Let's be real she was sleeping with all three of those guys while they were paying for her. OP doesn't know if she used protection, had a termination that could possibly effect her future fertility, or if she had or has one or more STDs.
She didn't just rob him of informed consent, she possibly put his health at risk, depending on how close the beginning of their relationship (if you can call it that) it was. Even if she says there was a buffer of years how can he take her word for it since she's seemingly had zero issues lying to him for their entire relationship nor does she seem remorseful at all about doing it.
She didn't put his health more at risk. Thats so stupid it hurts. She's not more likely to get pregnant screwing three guys once a week than one guy three times a week. If he cared about STDs, he could have gotten a test. You just like to judge women for how they have to survive
Story 1: Based lil' bro politely saying that his older sister is smart but has no sense XDD NTA, good lord. No OP should not have to move cross-country because his sister got pregnant! Sis and baby can share her room. OP will be college age by the time baby is old enough to get their own room, this is a non-issue room-wise.
Family is only family if they're fully accepted. Otherwise they're a headache mostly to the kids of the family
My aunty Ishbell set up education trusts for me and my sisters. As she was a lawyers she locked it into an offshore bank and nobody but us and rhe law firm could communicate about it. If we wanted school we got school. If there was any left at age 25 we got it delivered to our banks
"Family is more important than money" - ok so as I'm your family, you can give mr all your money.
Story about trust fund stolen my mom. 1) it’s illegal to steal the funds 2) son is liable for the money taken and he should have been sent a k1. the IRS could come after him for those funds as disbursement from a trust is taxable
Then he can come after Mom for the reimbursement for that, too! She already owes him for the trust
The comments to the first story is ridiculous. They know why the sister is staying. No child should be kicked out, and their desire to punish a 17 year old is weird. The simple answer is that no baby needs a room of their own
Did the mothers been done inheritances money of the siblings, I’m guessing no? OP should definitely to his mother because what she did was illegal.
Grandma/ cult: does anyone remember Jones Town?
Story 2. Last commenter is toxic, abusive ve and dishonest. Were i op id now not have much trust, as much as anything because she has said she will lie/withold if she thinksher actions will have consequences. How can you trust after that?
Religious mom story, I'm a Christian and what you definitely should NOT do is jump straight into talk of the end times with a CHILD who has no prior history with church and your religion. That's fearmongering. Don't do that, for goodness sake. Even if the child had grown up with that religious background you should be teaching in a child-safe manner, not scaring the daylights out of them.
That 1st story- I think the parents just don’t want him there. This feels like an excuse.
Religion story: NEVER underestimate Zeal of the Convert.
All the family is crazy .
The one story sounds like her mother's dealing with Jehovah's Witnesses
Story2: What the mother did was actually criminal. She stole that money and used it for a purpose other than intended. OP could go to the police and report the theft as well as sue the crap out of her mother for however much was in there. But an attorney would cost money so she would also have to sue for legal fees. The mother just wanted to spend that $ for herself and she's now gaslighting OP. NTA. If family is more important than money then the parents should pay OP back every single dime that was stolen from her trust fund plus interest. I'm guessing the brother's trust fund wasn't pilfered if he's siding with the parents. At the very least they should have asked OP. I'm wondering if this $ was spent before she was 25 or after it was supposed to go to her. Either way it's still wrong and criminal. Sounds like the mother chose money over OP. I hope OP presses charges and sues the crap out of the parents (the father is obviously complicit). I'd absolutely go completely NC with them regardless at this point because they think it's OK to steal from OP. It really sucks when parents do this to their kids. My best friend had an entire house stolen from him by his Mom. She somehow illegally had his name and his father's name taken off of it even though it was left to him. She was never married to his father. But the records only show the house in her name now. To make matters worse, she even tricked him into sinking a bunch of time and $$$ into it by telling him she'd sign it over to him if he fixed it up. She hadn't paid taxes on it and it had become a meth house. The floors fell out and it should have been condemned. We helped him pay off the back taxes, keep paying the new property taxes, and fix the place up to be nice. Then she decided to renege and is moving into it. I think she still expects him to pay the bills even though he and his wife moved out. All of the agreements were verbal so he has nothing in writing to take to court.
Wrong story
1-NTA but you need to think about being a live in babysitter. I'd be moving to grandmas and blocking the parents. 2-YTA 3-NTA. Time to straighten mom out with a lawsuit to reclaim that money! 4-NTA You need to shut that crap down ASAP! Find another sitter and don't let mom near your daughter without supervision! 5-NTA rents are full on delulu.
Wait what? How is story 2 YTA?
Where are people getting the idea that OP would be a live in baby sitter?
Why is the second OP TA? Not wanting to date, let alone marry, a prostitute is a very reasonable boundary. His marriage is based on a lie. I thought Reddit hated liars?
Ugh kid the money was to raise you then the money was used on you. It may or may not been intended for college or a house but ultimately if it was used on you then mom in the clear but there seems to be a possibility money was routed to bro. If that the case op, full speed ahead! Sue , make issues, yada! If bro got any money that should have been directed to you but wasn’t yeah makes them regret that they bleeped around and found out!
Story 3: NTA and op go and take action
Story 1.....I'd just look at my parents and tell them you know shipping me off is child abandonment and CPS will take both Sister and her baby if I notify them right.
i think his parents are doomed to failure at some point and CPS needs to be call
You are being ridiculous. It is not abandonment. He is being sent to live with relatives due to the situation. He is being being provided with a home and care. Just not the one he prefers. CPS will laugh at you.
@@SPJPapasan I'm the grandparent who had two of my grandkids sent to live with me and guess what their parents rights were TERMINATED for ABANDONMENT....if your child lives with someone else and they are financially providing for them for a period of 6 months it is legally considered ABANDONMENT. Shocker you can't just hand off your kids like they are a puppy.
@@taz598 I suspect that they were better off with you. Anyone who opens their home for a child in need has my respect.
I'm not going to trust anyone that grills me on my previous relationships, That line of questioning is the first red flag when it comes to them being insecure.
Then why did she lie to him? She could have just said I don't talk about my past or told him the truth. I think she messed up where trust comes in.
It’s not her previous relationships, it’s her previous work history. She was a prostitute. She exchanged sexual favors for monetary gain. The fact that that monetary gain was in the form of expensive goods and services rather than direct cash payments is immaterial. It’s not insecure to say that a history of sex work is a hard no. There’s no red flag on his part.
@@naoko7184 not all of them sleep witrh the people, you can be a sugar baby and just go on dates with people for the company, any bets if its was turned around people wouldnt say shit if the guy wasa a gigolo
Story 2: siiiiiiiigh, people have got to learn it's NOT the escort thing most people would be upset about, it's the LYING part people are upset out.
Exactly. I knew my late wife was sexually active before she met me but we discussed our previous relationships as soon as we started getting serious about our relationship. I decided that as long as we were faithful to each other that previous relationships didn't matter.
It absolutely does matter. Having sex in loving relationships is not the same as prostitution. It's showing that money is more important to her than love and her own physical health.
Proper term is prostitute :p
Wellllll... In this case OP pretty much stated he would not have dated her had he known 😆
That is BS. People don't have to justify not wanting to be with someone becuse of thier past. that's not point. She knew OP wouldn't have even dated her, if knew she was a sex worker. thatshe 's why tired to gaslight him. If it was abouther cheating in the past , there would've been only NTAs. The BS of calling not wanting to date a ex-sex worker, A"punishment". This is emtrapment . Only people full of crap would say "Everything is based on the fact she broke your deal breaker. she lied so that Op would be with her for years. So how dare he say the truth out loud.". A truth they both knew. You can tell someone is full crap when go " it shouldn't be a big, and no one should care", at the instead of finding someone that will not care, he/she tries to shame the people that do into not caring a deal breaker ,lie about it or both(in this post).
S2: A woman’s past matters, it tells you about her values and future. It is proven that women with high body counts have difficulty pair bonding and can more easily cheat.
Do you keep this energy for men?
Nah. Of course not. It's the woman's fault for slitting around, the fella is just "sowing his wild oats". The hypocrisy is nauseating.
@@ghostdragon5735Absolutely. You can substitute man for every place it says woman in the comment and it is just as true. It’s just that in this particular case the liar was a woman, so the comment says woman.
@Chucky, the guys sowing there oats is a small minority of men. Maybe 5% or so.
But she was correct that had you known the full extent of her past you would not have continued the relationship! So she was right in her assumption fyi!
And so? She took that possibility away from him by lying.
She took away his right to choose. He had a hard boundary (not dating sex workers) and she lied to manipulate him into marrying her.
early gang
Story 2 the wife should leave, Op does not love her. He will probably use the sugar baby thing as a weapon. He is not worth it.
You're blaming the victim.
@@quinton01 How is he the victim? In what way, shape or form does this even affect him? 🙄 Go somewhere with that noise.
If she would have told him the truth from the start she would not have put herself in the position of having him judge her for her past! She lied… by omission! Should she leave… would be her choice but she is still the blame for what is happening!
@richrosegold610 she lied about who she was??? He doesn't need to be with anyone that was a prostitute. Past or not he doesn't need to stay and if its okay to have that past than she can find someone else to be with who would be okay with said past, since its not a big deal apparently. People are allowed to have their own opinions and morals.
She is not worth is.
She is the hoker here not him
So what if HE was a pimp and she found out later
st 2: sugar, babies and sugar daddies don’t always have a sexual relationship. That’s why she said it was like a relationship not that they were in a relationship. Sometimes the older man or older woman just want someone young to talk to or just have around and they give them gifts. She might have had a sexual relationship with one of them hence the words she had one X that is not a lie, but to turn around and say, I would’ve never asked you out and then call her an escort when she was not an escort is irritating.
An escort isn't always sexual, either. A sugar baby IS an escort.
@@TailsFanThey’re different for the fact that work escorts you can have multiple clients at a time and it’s typically just for a night/short time. With sugar babies, most of them don’t want you seeing other sugar daddies (they don’t care so much if you have a boyfriend) and it’s longer term.
story 2. so the man can have all the lovers he wants, but a woman can't? since when? so she lied because men get so upset over a woman's past lovers and, frankly, she can do so much better than that numty husband of hers.
She was selling herself for money. She did not just have a telationship. Honey you can sell ypurself and find a man who have no self respect.
@@hannijr6120 what do you think being a wife was and still mostly is? selling herself to a man for money and security. until the 1970s women were the property of men in the usa. i guess you'd rather marry a woman who gave sex away for free.
I don't think that at 14 I'd like to be in a small house with a newborn. It sucks to move, I had to a lot. But better at the beginning of high school than the middle of it. Everyone is being very hard on the parents. Plus it's very important that the sister gets an education too or she'll never be able to support herself and the child.
These situations are becoming common because of the current political climate.
Tell me you're the mom without telling me you're the mom!
Story #2: The wife did not lie. Sugar baby and daddies are a business transaction, not an emotional sexual relationship. I get why OP is upset but he is wrong to claim she lied to him.
People need to stop clutching their pearls about sex work. It's WORK. How do we know he's as innocent as he makes himself out to be? After all, we only have OP's word for it.
I'm willing to bet he wasn't riding diiih for bracelets
@Witch_Pudding How do you know?
@@Chuckf66 i don't, but you don't lie about abot you job unless your ashamed. Sometimes escorts go above and beyond to get those jewels
People are allowed to CHOOSE who they have relationships with. His boundary of not dating, let alone marrying, prostitutes is a very reasonable one. You may be perfectly willing to date sex workers - that’s fine, you do you. But you get to choose for yourself, not for others. They are free to make choices you don’t agree with, and do not deserve to be mocked for it. By lying to him she took away his ability to make choices that were in his best interest.
Story 1: NTA and op isn’t in the wrong . Op say no
Story 2: op the past doesn’t matter and get over it .
The past is the past doesn't matter, ok so does that mean if they've been convicted for a serious crime and spend time in prison does that mean that shouldn't matter.
People are allowed to make decisions with all the information especially when it comes to picking a partner.
By not telling him she lied by omission
@@juliearmfield2634Thank you! I'm not saying she should die alone. But her actions absolutely does matter. If reflects her values. Money is more important than love and her own physical health.
@@juliearmfield2634you got a point there . I had an ex who accused me of drugs and told on my sister for vaping. I just left her and I told her that what I do doesn’t matter and my can’t define . I also told her that I never did drugs . I didn’t told her that I vaped so she couldn’t used it against me.
Sugar daddy story: dude your wife has nothing to apologize for. If her past is no go for you leave her then.
If her past isn't worth apologizing for why did she hide it?
he ASKED about her past and she lied.
If your spouse has lied you would forgive them?
She absolutely does have something to apologize for (but she won’t - she’ll play the victim). She conned him into marrying her. He is harmed because he wasted time and money on her and now she gets to take half his stuff when he divorces her. That makes her a POS.
S2, how come you don't get an attorney and file fraud charges. Make her prove how she spent the funds. Ffs don't let it go.
Wrong story
S2) yta. Get over yourself dude. It's in the past. You married her now deal with it. Put your big boy pants on and realize that the past is in the past. I hope she divorces you
He’s 27 and married. He’s not a child.