WOW the Rubicon's have so much more attack, a very dynamic and alive sound = fantastic sound. You can really hear the quality upgrade. Easily worth paying more for.
Opticon is brighter and light weight vocal and Rubicon is more Deep and little bit more warm and drag the voice out more clear but overall opticon is the Winner...
this is by far the best demo ive heard in youtube,hope someday I get a chance to hear those expensive speakers you own. I know youre a rich dude..respect to you from Philippines:)
Great comparison! Obviously the Opticon is a very good speaker. But in this comparison, when you switched to the Opticon, it was almost like you put a varm blanket over the Rubicon... Impressive clartity and punch in the Rubicon!
yes I think so as well. One thing probably not audible here is the Rubicons are also better in projecting a space and its respective placement within the soundstage. one thing I liked better on the Opticon is it is more forgiving and a bit more forward vocals. But I think the Rubicons are worth twice the Opticons giving improvements in all areas.
@@Val_Smith they have a slightly different sound sig in the highs and mids. my friend who has auditioned both preferred his r2 over the r6. The r6 with the ribbon will have a more relaxed presentation compared to the r2.
@@mykeldg the autoswitch, was gonna ask about Rubicon LCR. But I guess treble wise should be the same. By the way I own Dali ikons but use them with a receiver right now for home theatre.
The Opticon has a fuller mid-range but relatively lacking on the highs, the Rubicon is better balanced! Both sound fantastic and I would be grateful if I had either!!!
For the price - Opticons are no brainers ! Terrific sound from such a small speaker !!! But, truth to be told - Rubicons sound better ! Np doubt about it. Thus, based on sound Rubicons are winner here ! Based on value - Opticons are irreproachable !
I could hear the video maker sniffling in the video indicating they were perhaps too close to the microphone which is both good (it indicates the video is from the listener's point of view/location) and bad (it shows that the recording was/may have been negatively influenced by reflections off his/her head, chest and stomach). There is nothing stating what microphone was used to record this, nor what equipment and wires it passed from the microphone through. In the Vocal section near the videos end I could hear what seemed to be a far clearer, warmer and wider midrange from the Rubicon models (the Opticon models sounded much more brightened and forceful in their reproduction of the midrange vocals), but who's to say that's fact when all else I wrote is so. Then we have to add-in the extreme sound compression RUclips uses and everything goes from possibly bad, to far worse. I recommend stating what recording hardware you are using and them providing a hyperlink to an online copy of your actual recording so the RUclips compression can be eliminated! That's a smart and ideal way to provide such testing results. I don't intend to sound as though I was intending to insult your work. I am only recommending ways you can improve it substantially for your viewers! I hope it helps you and you benefit from it. Respectfully, David
Rubicon's are more open and more lively, without sounding sharp. Opticon's have slightly closed chest and slightly boxier sound. Both are enjoayble and easy to live with !
Rubicon 2 bas seslerde kesinlikle daha iyi. Tiz seslerde pek fark yok. Burada önemli olan dinleyicinin bu hoparlörleri hangi amaçla alması gerektiğidir. Eğer soft-slow bir Treble müzik dinleyicisi ise Opticon kesinlikle yeterlidir. Hard bass rock ağırlıklı müzikler dinleyecekse Rubicon en iyi seçim olacaktır...
I have the Opticon’s 2 and absolutely love them but I wish that sometimes the top end would be a bit more extended. I love the midrange and the bass ( the bass is not overpowering and boomy ). They play all music types well and they are very forgiving. Does the bass get too overpowering with the Rubicon’s and how does the top end differ from the Opticons? I get a bit of a subtle idea watching your video but would like your personal opinion! Keep up the good work :)
the Rubicons are a big step up from the Opticons IMO. Closer to the epicons. Highs are more detailed but also more coherent (opticon highs is more scratchy). Midrange is clearer, more fleshed out. Bass is deeper and more controlled. WIth Rubicon I feel like everything is more refined controlled and coherent. While on the opticons I seems like the frequencies are mixing together -- though may sound more forgiving.
@@mykeldg Do you find the highs overbearing or fatiguing with the Rubicon's? Is bass boomy ? That's what I would be afraid of... Sadly, there is no way for me to audition these speakers so I would have to make a blind buy based on reviews or videos like yours.
@@capdec9398 not at all. for the highs, I find them more refined than the opticons and less fatiguing than metal domes and the one specifically from the special 40. but that is after giving them space to breath. see my comparison here before and after room treatment. ruclips.net/video/VdeZvQaNxkU/видео.html for the bass, I find them very quick and nimble more than all of my other speakers. if anything, I tend to increase the bass more on the amp's tone control.
that said, I really like the sound signature of Dali, so it really depends on your room, equipment and taste. the Rubicons have an elevated treble but for some reason I find them appropriately bright while still not sounding harsh. they have this coherence & fluidity that lets them get away with it. even on the Special 40 being warmer, I found it more fatiguing for some reason.
One question: Do you use the same microphone and in the same configuration (EQ-Settings) for both recordings? Did your amplifier had the same settings for both recordings? Thank you!
I think yes. I haven't heard the 2100 but based on the specs, its 160W @4ohms which is more than enough. The Amp im using in this demo is only 60W @ 4ohms and it sounds quite nice already.
For me, yes. Especially if you like the dali sound signature and have good warm amplification. Still cant find a replacement for the rubicons after 3+ years of ownership. And ive tried dynaudio s40 and kef r300 which are higher priced.
Hello,if I have the option to buy Opticon 2 for 450€ do you think when it is that big of a €€€ diference it is worth it to buy opticon 2? I curently own opticon 1 but they are a bit small for my room
Seems like a good price. If you didn't think much of an improvement, you could resell and get much of your money back. Looking at frequency charts and reviews, while they will sound bigger than Opticon 1s (which I also own), the bass seems to roll off similarly with a bit more bass in mid bass region, 50 - 100 Hz relative to rest of curve adding some warmth. Just a bit harder to drive than 1s. I really wouldn't pay much more for a vinyl wrap speaker either. If its the MK2 version, I think it will sound a bit different looking at the frequency curve which has greater dips and peaks.
@@nc3419 I bought them for 400€ 5 days ago. First impressions are,they sound biger,they fill my room easier,they dont strugle at higer volume. Bass could be more puncy. But I am running it on yamaha R303D reciver. I have it.for 5 years now,but for my new living room i am thinking based on reviews maybe i should get marantz pm6007. Some say the go well together
@@timotimatosevic5207 Good price. I prefer Marantz sound over Yamaha myself and run my Opticon 1s on a Keces E40. Also have a Hegel h160 but the little amp sounds fantastic. As long as speakers don't dip below 4 ohms, than heat buildup is a concern, as I had with Menuet SE which looked nice but was too refined, cut out too much detail but did have outstanding resolution. The Opticon 1s hit it right and it will be my nearfield speaker. More detail giving up just a bit less than what the Menuet improves upon in some areas and easier to drive.
@@nc3419 Do you have any recomendation what should i get to drive them easier? Would pm6007 be enough or should i look for something else. I am not the brightess when it comes to amp and what do the specs mean. I am looking for something with a punch :)
Hello, Are Rubicon better than Option speakers and why? Rubicon 8 vs Opticon 8? I am thinking about getting a pair of Rubicon 8 and pairing it with a Hegel H590 Integrated amplifier. Do you think this combination will work perfect together. Thanks.
Absolutely r8 with the hegel would be incredible. Regarding opticon vs rubicon, they sound different, opticon is more mellow with a bit rolled off topend and warmer midrange, less defined bass. Rubicon is just better in every way - more holographic, deeper tighter bass, more 3d soundstage with lots of air, very revealing topend.
So the Rubicon 6/8 are brighter than Opticon 6/8 (sharper treble and less weighted midrange)? Not good :/ Currently I have Opticon 6 (with Kimber 8TC) and in my opinion they sound very detailed, but too sharp and lacking a dense midrange, especially with rock. I really like the spaciousness of the Dali, so I was hoping that the higher model (Rubicon) had a better (smoother) treble.
HI please see this sound comparison, it is Opticon 6 vs Rubicon 6. I guess it is close enough and R8 would just be more bass: ruclips.net/video/e4-GPjdUstM/видео.html
@@mykeldgHi friend, the comparison you shown was between Rubicon 6 vs Calisto 6. Not Rubicon 6 vs Opticon 6. Actually, I need the feedback for Rubicon 8 vs Opticon 8. Thanks anyway.
my guess is, the only diff would be bass extension and subtle more air from the ribbon. it ultimately depends on your room size. I think opticon 2s are if you have a room smaller than 15sqm
Its okay with the rubicon but I definitely think a better amp in the $1500 upwards are more suitable for the rubicons. Find an amp that has rich mids and strong bass like Nadc388, hegel h190, denon pma2500, rega elex roksan caspian, etc
it must be my recording its not accurate enough or pls also try listening using neutral headphones. there is a significant difference between the 2 in real life.
@@fahy01 ive had opticon 6 after oberon 3. The lows were insane. Tight. Supirior to oberon 3 and 7. But never did buy the opticon 2. It sounded much clearer and neater in the shop though. With lots of low. Now owning the oberon 9.
@@DaveBais Opticon 2 would also be more resolving. I had the Oberon 1s and thought they were little better than Spector 1s. Lacked a bit of dynamic range and a bit too laid back, someting about soundtracks that could have been better. My Opticon 1s do it better for me in mids and highs, more detail and resolution and just forward enough to enjoy movies, vg on music as well but a livelier/more exciting speaker may be preferred with some music, though I find it vg overall, even in a good sized 27sq m room in comparison, though with less mid bass. I have Triangle Zetas and go back and forth between them. The Opticons are the more detailed and resovling but the zetas have more midbass and excitement. Both fun to listen to. Opticon 2 (MK1 or 2) is tempting but not at higher prices, especially new. At that price, Dali should have at least used real wood veneer.
antonio inacio conceicao reis reis Rubicon is the only speaker that completely won over the opticons by a large margin. Its a bit brighter though but you get tons of detail, bass heft, depth. I recommend if you can buy it used for less than 1600 eur in Europe than getting a more expensive amp for the opticons.
@@antonioinacioconceicaoreis9004 i honestly think its better if you sell the opticons and buy a used rubicon 2. your cost will only be less than a 900 euros and the upgrade in sound is larger than upgrading your amp. but i haven't heard the Roksan so maybe its a great upgrade as well but at a higher cost. But I think the opticons warm sound and vocals is sometimes preferable. Rubicon can sometimes be too clear and clean.
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The Rubicon 2 are incredible. But they cost three times as much as Opticon 2 (old version, superseded by the Mk2) on rebate in some outlets.
Rubicon 2 more vibrant, soundstage is larger
WOW the Rubicon's have so much more attack, a very dynamic and alive sound = fantastic sound. You can really hear the quality upgrade. Easily worth paying more for.
YESS!
Opticon is brighter and light weight vocal and Rubicon is more Deep and little bit more warm and drag the voice out more clear but overall opticon is the Winner...
this is by far the best demo ive heard in youtube,hope someday I get a chance to hear those expensive speakers you own. I know youre a rich dude..respect to you from Philippines:)
Their are not that expsensive,but they are good
Great comparison! Obviously the Opticon is a very good speaker. But in this comparison, when you switched to the Opticon, it was almost like you put a varm blanket over the Rubicon... Impressive clartity and punch in the Rubicon!
Dali Rubicon 2!
Through my audio system, the Rubicon is noticeably more clear, more definition on the male vocal. Better impact and clarity on percussion.
yes I think so as well. One thing probably not audible here is the Rubicons are also better in projecting a space and its respective placement within the soundstage. one thing I liked better on the Opticon is it is more forgiving and a bit more forward vocals. But I think the Rubicons are worth twice the Opticons giving improvements in all areas.
@@mykeldg Do you think Rubicon 2 is better than Rubicon Oct witch have additional ribbon tweeter?
@@Val_Smith they have a slightly different sound sig in the highs and mids. my friend who has auditioned both preferred his r2 over the r6. The r6 with the ribbon will have a more relaxed presentation compared to the r2.
@@mykeldg the autoswitch, was gonna ask about Rubicon LCR. But I guess treble wise should be the same. By the way I own Dali ikons but use them with a receiver right now for home theatre.
pretty good... but did the volume change between speakers? Your daughter is fun to watch... good music makes her active, very good age.
Opticon - analog sound, Rubicon - digital.
The Opticon has a fuller mid-range but relatively lacking on the highs, the Rubicon is better balanced! Both sound fantastic and I would be grateful if I had either!!!
just paid today for dali opticon mk2 2 will pair with denon x4800h and sonly oled. waiting eagerly
For the price - Opticons are no brainers ! Terrific sound from such a small speaker !!! But, truth to be told - Rubicons sound better ! Np doubt about it. Thus, based on sound Rubicons are winner here ! Based on value - Opticons are irreproachable !
Excellent video and effective comparison, for once with a acoustic treatment of the room. how do you record the sound?
I can tell opticon is more bright and detail sound. thumbs up for opticon.
The BEST, Opticon2, for me.
Rubicon, clearly audible.
I could hear the video maker sniffling in the video indicating they were perhaps too close to the microphone which is both good (it indicates the video is from the listener's point of view/location) and bad (it shows that the recording was/may have been negatively influenced by reflections off his/her head, chest and stomach). There is nothing stating what microphone was used to record this, nor what equipment and wires it passed from the microphone through.
In the Vocal section near the videos end I could hear what seemed to be a far clearer, warmer and wider midrange from the Rubicon models (the Opticon models sounded much more brightened and forceful in their reproduction of the midrange vocals), but who's to say that's fact when all else I wrote is so. Then we have to add-in the extreme sound compression RUclips uses and everything goes from possibly bad, to far worse.
I recommend stating what recording hardware you are using and them providing a hyperlink to an online copy of your actual recording so the RUclips compression can be eliminated! That's a smart and ideal way to provide such testing results.
I don't intend to sound as though I was intending to insult your work. I am only recommending ways you can improve it substantially for your viewers! I hope it helps you and you benefit from it.
Respectfully,
David
no offense taken! this is just a quick and dirty recording using an iphone held by hand. so yes not very accurate and just for the fun of it.
Rubicon's are more open and more lively, without sounding sharp. Opticon's have slightly closed chest and slightly boxier sound. Both are enjoayble and easy to live with !
Какая прикольная девочка! : )
Very similar. It’s very difficult to choose.
Rubicon 2 bas seslerde kesinlikle daha iyi. Tiz seslerde pek fark yok. Burada önemli olan dinleyicinin bu hoparlörleri hangi amaçla alması gerektiğidir. Eğer soft-slow bir Treble müzik dinleyicisi ise Opticon kesinlikle yeterlidir. Hard bass rock ağırlıklı müzikler dinleyecekse Rubicon en iyi seçim olacaktır...
Dali Rubicon 2 играютнемного лучше, но цена более чем в два раза выше.
Свен за 870 рублей похуже
at my headphones ) I like how Opticons 2 is sound. this is my choice. but bouth is great really
How do Dalis go with marantz?
Especially with old series 68, 7000, 7200, 8000?
Thx
I have the Opticon’s 2 and absolutely love them but I wish that sometimes the top end would be a bit more extended. I love the midrange and the bass ( the bass is not overpowering and boomy ). They play all music types well and they are very forgiving. Does the bass get too overpowering with the Rubicon’s and how does the top end differ from the Opticons? I get a bit of a subtle idea watching your video but would like your personal opinion! Keep up the good work :)
the Rubicons are a big step up from the Opticons IMO. Closer to the epicons. Highs are more detailed but also more coherent (opticon highs is more scratchy). Midrange is clearer, more fleshed out. Bass is deeper and more controlled. WIth Rubicon I feel like everything is more refined controlled and coherent. While on the opticons I seems like the frequencies are mixing together -- though may sound more forgiving.
@@mykeldg Do you find the highs overbearing or fatiguing with the Rubicon's? Is bass boomy ? That's what I would be afraid of... Sadly, there is no way for me to audition these speakers so I would have to make a blind buy based on reviews or videos like yours.
@@capdec9398 not at all. for the highs, I find them more refined than the opticons and less fatiguing than metal domes and the one specifically from the special 40. but that is after giving them space to breath. see my comparison here before and after room treatment. ruclips.net/video/VdeZvQaNxkU/видео.html for the bass, I find them very quick and nimble more than all of my other speakers. if anything, I tend to increase the bass more on the amp's tone control.
that said, I really like the sound signature of Dali, so it really depends on your room, equipment and taste. the Rubicons have an elevated treble but for some reason I find them appropriately bright while still not sounding harsh. they have this coherence & fluidity that lets them get away with it. even on the Special 40 being warmer, I found it more fatiguing for some reason.
Good comparison.
I couldn't listen to Rubicon , I was laughing !!! 🙃🤣🤣😉
Can you give me the title of the piece you use for the "jazz" part? Thanks!
Very close eachother, Rubicon a bit loud then Opticon..both are excellent
One question: Do you use the same microphone and in the same configuration (EQ-Settings) for both recordings? Did your amplifier had the same settings for both recordings? Thank you!
yes pretty much. Room, Amp, source, recorder, stays constant. (and no EQ used)
Hello, Any experiences with Dali Rubicon 2C and sound hub? Thanks.
what a dancer
Que rico suena ...Rubicon 2
Who is the second song by the female singer by and what is it called please?
Добрый день! Как вы думаете Rubicon 2 хорошо споется с Yamaha 2100?
I think yes. I haven't heard the 2100 but based on the specs, its 160W @4ohms which is more than enough. The Amp im using in this demo is only 60W @ 4ohms and it sounds quite nice already.
LoL, that kid is better than the speakers!!
haha! yes!
Looking at Rubicon 2 as well as Neat Petities but can't audition. Any thoughts or experiences anyone?
Sorry haven’t heard the neats my guess is they have completely diff sound sig
@@mykeldg I'm sure they do. Probably less impactful bass and more extended highs is my guess. Supposedly these have a rich midrange also.
Bought the opticon 2 mk1 for 500. Tempted to buy the rubicons for 1200. Worth it?
For me, yes. Especially if you like the dali sound signature and have good warm amplification. Still cant find a replacement for the rubicons after 3+ years of ownership. And ive tried dynaudio s40 and kef r300 which are higher priced.
I am considering opticon 5 in 25m2 room,sitting 3,2 from them and they are apart 2m any thoughts??
If apartment, then no, if house then yes, sure they should be provide good sound - at least in theory.
would dali oberon 5 towers sound as good as the opticon 2 ?
probably not. but they will probably be good at other areas like bass, soundstage and dynamics due to the much larger size & more drivers.
but Opticons have depth and scene and denser voice body
In the vocals song the are pretty close
Hello,if I have the option to buy Opticon 2 for 450€ do you think when it is that big of a €€€ diference it is worth it to buy opticon 2?
I curently own opticon 1 but they are a bit small for my room
Seems like a good price. If you didn't think much of an improvement, you could resell and get much of your money back. Looking at frequency charts and reviews, while they will sound bigger than Opticon 1s (which I also own), the bass seems to roll off similarly with a bit more bass in mid bass region, 50 - 100 Hz relative to rest of curve adding some warmth. Just a bit harder to drive than 1s. I really wouldn't pay much more for a vinyl wrap speaker either. If its the MK2 version, I think it will sound a bit different looking at the frequency curve which has greater dips and peaks.
@@nc3419 I bought them for 400€ 5 days ago. First impressions are,they sound biger,they fill my room easier,they dont strugle at higer volume. Bass could be more puncy. But I am running it on yamaha R303D reciver. I have it.for 5 years now,but for my new living room i am thinking based on reviews maybe i should get marantz pm6007. Some say the go well together
@@timotimatosevic5207 Good price. I prefer Marantz sound over Yamaha myself and run my Opticon 1s on a Keces E40. Also have a Hegel h160 but the little amp sounds fantastic. As long as speakers don't dip below 4 ohms, than heat buildup is a concern, as I had with Menuet SE which looked nice but was too refined, cut out too much detail but did have outstanding resolution. The Opticon 1s hit it right and it will be my nearfield speaker. More detail giving up just a bit less than what the Menuet improves upon in some areas and easier to drive.
@@nc3419 Do you have any recomendation what should i get to drive them easier? Would pm6007 be enough or should i look for something else. I am not the brightess when it comes to amp and what do the specs mean. I am looking for something with a punch :)
how are you liking the opticon 2s ?@@timotimatosevic5207
Hello, Are Rubicon better than Option speakers and why? Rubicon 8 vs Opticon 8? I am thinking about getting a pair of Rubicon 8 and pairing it with a Hegel H590 Integrated amplifier. Do you think this combination will work perfect together. Thanks.
Absolutely r8 with the hegel would be incredible. Regarding opticon vs rubicon, they sound different, opticon is more mellow with a bit rolled off topend and warmer midrange, less defined bass. Rubicon is just better in every way - more holographic, deeper tighter bass, more 3d soundstage with lots of air, very revealing topend.
@@mykeldg Thanks for reaching out. Much appreciated !!
@@mykeldg Hello, Please recommend a pair of speaker stands for Rubicon 2 and can these be bolted to the speaker stand?
So the Rubicon 6/8 are brighter than Opticon 6/8 (sharper treble and less weighted midrange)? Not good :/ Currently I have Opticon 6 (with Kimber 8TC) and in my opinion they sound very detailed, but too sharp and lacking a dense midrange, especially with rock. I really like the spaciousness of the Dali, so I was hoping that the higher model (Rubicon) had a better (smoother) treble.
@@djtaboret Thanks for reaching out. Are you saying R8 is better than Opticon 8?
is it opticon looks less aggressive on trebles
Anyone tried both Opticon 8 and Rubicon 8? Is there a vast difference between these 2 series, as Rubicon 8 price is double of Opticon 8 ? Thank you
HI please see this sound comparison, it is Opticon 6 vs Rubicon 6. I guess it is close enough and R8 would just be more bass: ruclips.net/video/e4-GPjdUstM/видео.html
@@mykeldgHi friend, the comparison you shown was between Rubicon 6 vs Calisto 6. Not Rubicon 6 vs Opticon 6. Actually, I need the feedback for Rubicon 8 vs Opticon 8. Thanks anyway.
Is it possible to compare Opticon 2 and 6 MK2 ? I know it isn't the same size but just to have an idea...
my guess is, the only diff would be bass extension and subtle more air from the ribbon. it ultimately depends on your room size. I think opticon 2s are if you have a room smaller than 15sqm
@@mykeldg Hi ! My room is around 30 sqm, I'm thinking about opticon 6 MK2...
Pls advise can onkyo 9150 keep up with Rubicon 2 as it is budget amp.Tnx
Its okay with the rubicon but I definitely think a better amp in the $1500 upwards are more suitable for the rubicons. Find an amp that has rich mids and strong bass like Nadc388, hegel h190, denon pma2500, rega elex roksan caspian, etc
@@mykeldg Tnx but as I understood it is good amp for a start.
@@ZORANSKORIN yes it is. In fact i havent found a replacement for it yet. Its very decent if you have a small room
What is the Jazz song? Thanks
Grace Mahya - Come home baby
@@mykeldg Thanks!
@@simonwe use shazam
@@marcusaurelius2988 I already got the answer 10 months ago as you can see above
Please tell me the singer name and title of the second song
I think its Grace Mahya - Come Home baby
@@mykeldg
Thank you.I found out about youtube by searching Rubicon2. That's a good video.
I dont hear any difference at all there.. Both sound same and both are great.
it must be my recording its not accurate enough or pls also try listening using neutral headphones. there is a significant difference between the 2 in real life.
@@mykeldg So I assume it's the rubiconm which is much better, right?
The opticon and rubicon is the same size???
antonio inacio conceicao reis reis yes almost. Maybe rubicons are 10% larger
Hello sir,opticon sound better then oberon??
yes especially the mkII. more refined overall.
@@mykeldg Dali OPTICON 2 mk2 во всем лучше чем Dali OPTICON 2?
Try yao si ting song is good!!!
Would the opticon 2 be a major upgrade compared to oberon 3?
maybe if it is the opticon 2 mk II but I havent heard the oberons so it would be hard to say. opticon will sound more detailed and more refined.
@@mykeldg oke! Since the oberon got 7" woofers i dont want to loose bass.
@@DaveBais same dilemma here. Have Oberon 3 and considering used opticon 2 but I'm also afraid off losing Oberon's bass. Did u make the switch?
@@fahy01 ive had opticon 6 after oberon 3. The lows were insane. Tight. Supirior to oberon 3 and 7. But never did buy the opticon 2. It sounded much clearer and neater in the shop though. With lots of low. Now owning the oberon 9.
@@DaveBais Opticon 2 would also be more resolving. I had the Oberon 1s and thought they were little better than Spector 1s. Lacked a bit of dynamic range and a bit too laid back, someting about soundtracks that could have been better. My Opticon 1s do it better for me in mids and highs, more detail and resolution and just forward enough to enjoy movies, vg on music as well but a livelier/more exciting speaker may be preferred with some music, though I find it vg overall, even in a good sized 27sq m room in comparison, though with less mid bass. I have Triangle Zetas and go back and forth between them. The Opticons are the more detailed and resovling but the zetas have more midbass and excitement. Both fun to listen to. Opticon 2 (MK1 or 2) is tempting but not at higher prices, especially new. At that price, Dali should have at least used real wood veneer.
Rubicon2 승!
The second Song name???
lucio ferro Grace Mahya - come home baby
Mykeldg kef q 350 or dali which sounds best
Dali. Even kef r300 or ls50 meta dali wins easily. but depends, kef excels at imaging and strong bass
Dali Opticon 2 )) лучше играют! Глубины больше!
I guess rubicon better at bass
Rubicon 2x price Opticon hmm
and 3x in the US
@Hoy Sum it sounds significantly better to me...not sure it sounds twice as better (money wise)
Which is better???????
antonio inacio conceicao reis reis Rubicon is the only speaker that completely won over the opticons by a large margin. Its a bit brighter though but you get tons of detail, bass heft, depth. I recommend if you can buy it used for less than 1600 eur in Europe than getting a more expensive amp for the opticons.
@@mykeldg i go buy roksan caspian 2 for opticon 2
antonio inacio conceicao reis reis congrats on your new amp. Is there are large diff from cxa60?
@@mykeldg i dont have i want to buy!
@@antonioinacioconceicaoreis9004 i honestly think its better if you sell the opticons and buy a used rubicon 2. your cost will only be less than a 900 euros and the upgrade in sound is larger than upgrading your amp. but i haven't heard the Roksan so maybe its a great upgrade as well but at a higher cost. But I think the opticons warm sound and vocals is sometimes preferable. Rubicon can sometimes be too clear and clean.