People who confuse simplicity for lack of depth look at Under Falling Skies and scoff at it and miss out on one of the most loaded boxes for the cost I've ever seen. Marvel United hits that same balance of simple presentation and mechanics, with massive amounts of depth.
3 года назад+2
agreed, but to each their own if they’re happy as long as they don’t rain on other peoples happiness.
Gongrats on getting a shout out from Boardgameco and being one of his top 10 for Kickstarter content in his latest video. Keep up with the amazing work.
3 года назад+1
Well that's a nice thing to wake up to! Thanks for mentioning it, otherwise I might not have known!
As father your input here is what sold me. Being able to play with my kids but also enjoy with gaming friends is a huge selling point for me. Once you get this KS I hope you do a video to tell us what the kids enjoyed in this version of the game versus the last one.
3 года назад+1
definitely! I will for sure do that. though....they’re not that nuanced yet either!
People confuse simplicity for lack of depth. This game has SO MUCH DEPTH POTENTIAL which is evident by the small tweaks allowing for HUGE gameplay variation, hence the skyscraper full of content they're able to produce with very little additional components or iconography required.
Such a great campaign for an X-Men fan. After I got my Marvel United Pledge and played about ten times in just a week, it was clear that I would back this one two as the variability is the main fun about this game. It's simple and easy to get to the table you're so right about that. My kids are loving it and just watching at those new characters we're all so excited. Going to stay out of the expansions though except for one of two, thinking about getting Deadpool as well now just to make some money out of it next year 😁🤷♂️
Do your kids know the X-Men characters? For a lighter game that I see people often play with their kids, I wonder if kids will know or care about these lesser known Stretch Goal characters
3 года назад+1
@@MrScrawnjuan just the basics. But after playing like marvel legendary my 7 year olds favorites include Old Man Logan for example for some unexplainable reason. So hard to account for their taste at all! He also loves Iron Fist because of his special attack name in MU
The fact that my 6 year old son has asked to play the first version everyday since i got it and that i love X-Men means i am all in. Next question is do i go back and get the older stuff too. Not sure yet.
I’m in but I’m waffling constantly on what to get. Maybe you are right about splitting the cost. Do I pledge for the 100 then use the pledge manager to get the all in and pay the difference? Also. You made no mention of the plastic tokens. I feel the cardboard ones from MU are great so I’m not getting them.
What's so interesting in the Phoenix Five expansion? Between that and First Class I feel like we are just getting rehashing of characters over and over.
The simpler it is, the easier it to teach and the easier to hit the table. I didn't back the previous one but by surprise everyone loves it. Theme and being able to hit the table are my priority! Do you think this game loses its "fun" after a while? Do you find yourself wanted to play a certain character? The limited variety of symbols kinda hold me back. I really want all characters to be unique. You think the X-MAN might do better in uniqueness than the previous campaign?
3 года назад
yes for sure x-men will be better. will it get old? just like anything else if you play it to death. how many games would that be though for something like this? a lot. price per play for me is where I’m sold too. I just like the choosing randomly. kinda like how we never purposefully choose the market cards in Aeons End in order to try to game the game or get a big advantage.
@ Awesome! Thank you for clearing out my doubts. You might not be working for CMON but I am "ALL-IN" because of you! I am worried because its CMON. I find some of their games just meh but people buy into it and hype it because of the brand. I love X-man more than marvel and would love to have a X-man game in my collection. Replayability, theme and easy to bring it to the table are my priority so your words reassure that
My biggest debate is because the stretch goal promos from the previous campaign are locked in the ultimate bundle. I’m glad I even have the chance to buy them but it’s expensive. I also want Thor, Black Panther, and Spider-Man, but not their expansions. ....Also the storage complaints you had in your other video. I’m still going back and forth. Lastly, the amount of other games I could buy with the money that this costs. I even wonder if I should buy those other games and just get my superhero fix in video games for much less money. So many choices.....😩
3 года назад
I know..I mean worse case scenario (to play devils advocate), I don't think it will sell on the secondary market for less, if even less than an additional 50-100% cost but it's a lot of money to have tied up at the same time for that long
Does anybody know if I can play with the classic expansions from the first game if I only have the core box from X-men? Would love the sinister six but can't get the first core box here.. 😕
I was thinking the 100 pledge , sinister 6 , infinity gauntlet, Phoenix five, to me they add so many heroes like Zombicide with recycled abilities they all feel the same . The Enemies seem to be the variety in cmon games . I just don’t know if the card board locations are worth it ?? I’ve never played the game .
3 года назад
Check out a little bit of the gameplay in case you hadn't first just in case to make sure you like how it actually plays. The villains' "BAM" definitely overlaps significantly but way the villains win differs in each game except for the case of where if they ever run out of cards in their deck. I'm going to laminate mine so that's the reason I'm passing but I know that the stock they are made of isn't the most sturdy so I understand why people want them in the first place.
I'm backing at one dollar. I have the base game marvel united. I love the xmen, but holy moly are they bringing everything at this. how many add ons now? of course the deadpool add on has me geeking out
Do you think there is going to be an all in offer which inclused extra character Nightcrawler whom I guess lots of People are craving for + an All IN special price?
3 года назад
there will be, but how much savings? not as much as I’d probably like....
Next campaign will be Fantastic Four is what everyone is anticipating and hoping. SIlver Surfer, Firelord, Dr, Doom, Terrax, Gladiator, Annihilus, Super Skrull, Red Hulk and GALACTUS for finale piece of Marvel United Trilogy!!! To name a few.
3 года назад
Honestly. As much as I'd be interested in some of those...After this one I might be good?
Easy: It's CMON -> It's No Besides this I still don't like the style and it's much to expensive for what you get - gamewise not plastic-wise. But actually I'm very happy for each game that makes it easy to pass ;) So much good game around.
3 года назад
Agreed. lots of good games for all types nowadays!
I was all set. Then they added the sentinels expansion and I have no idea what to do. All in is not going to happen. Phoenix five as a theme has zero interest to me. Deadpool also has no interest. I’m wondering if blue and gold is redundant. Should I get one? But then I’ll miss out on the characters from the other. Argh
3 года назад
I think I might still be all in just also because if there are all the exclusives, resale will hold up too but agreed, Deadpool especially does nothing for me either
I’ll end up buying it all, which I planned from the beginning. Duplication of the characters is my only complaint but at least they play differently. My guess is three Wolverines (Base game, Weapon X and Old Man Logan) once campaign ends.
3 года назад
time will tell. maybe I should have used Deadpool’s lol
I'm backing nearly everything at the moment but waiting to see what the all in pledge costs. I went for the base pledge with United and was really happy with the content. My biggest issue with this one is the amount of duplications I understand its from different eras but there are so many other mutants out there. Also I was looking forward to deadwood but do I need 3 different ones hmmmm
3 года назад+1
Yeah not super excited by the deadpool expansion either
Damn woulda been awesome to see you in that Quackalope video. They have been doing a bunch of work together in the youtube boardgames community. Hope to see you in one in the future. This appeals to me more then the First one just because of the X-Men OG animation. I like this playmat more than the previous one. Crap... 🤔🤣
3 года назад+1
Collaboration is weird around these places. Hope to do some in the future, but I'm also not one good at actively seeking it out often so who knows when/where/who.
@ Yeah, I understand completely. I just got excited hearing the collaboration possibility with them. Your channel, Quackalope, and Board Game Co. Are the channels I watch the most. To know its even a possibility that you may all be in a video together intrigues me I must say. Something I will look forward to greatly if it happens. Like seeing the community on here growing together. You guys help voice our opinions and such. So I thank you greatly for it good sir. Keep doing what you do. I'll keep coming back with or without a collaborate be assured. 💯
The new playmat should be better than the original one. It should be doublesided and 1 side should be for more players all around the table. The other side should be for “solo” play when all players are on 1 side of the table. This is the reason backers from original MU with old mat complain.
I'm hoping the all in is a good deal because I want to back everything in this and get the previous content but I'm afraid this will end up being 500 easy with the the amount of stuff already released. Having said all that, I'm planning on playing through the content and selling off the "samey" feeling heroes and box sets to recoup some money.
3 года назад+1
That's kinda my feeling fortunately or unfortunately with a few of the smaller expansions from the first ks
Disappointed with multiple iterations of the same character in this one (Cyclops, Beast, Storm, etc). The antihero and Super Villain gameplay concepts are cool, but it feels like they're running short on ideas when they throw in 3 (essentially 4) separate versions of Deapool, etc.
3 года назад
Yeah, that was a strange thing yesterday. The only way to make it solid would to be to make them all very distinctly different and.....I'm not sure I can see that happening.
I missed the first Kickstarter for Marvel United and have just the base game. I'm interested in picking up either the Sinister Six and/or Infinity Gauntlet expansion, but I have no real interest in X-Men. I'd be looking at over $100 plus shipping to get just one of those expansions since a base pledge for X-Men is required. For the weight of the game, the cost just isn't worth it to me.
3 года назад
Agreed. That makes sense not to do definitely then in that case.
As much as I would like to get this game, the cost is simply too much for me. I more Avengers fan and not X-Men and the most of the characters that I know are in add-ons. Unfortunately I missed first KS. If I wanted to get all, that would be around 450 USD plus shipping plus VAT (25%). edit: my kids love Marvel and that's the only reason I'm considering some options :)
3 года назад+1
Oof. Yeah that VAT has been killer lately on a lot of these bigger projects. I feel for you.
Same boat. I missed the first run and am more of an Avengers guy. Luckily one of our local game stores had some of the other expansions from the Avengers run to pick up. I'll probably just pick up the x-men base game when it hits retail.
Ugh....This is getting too expensive for me. As much as I would like to have most everything, I'm not sure I could justify it. I didn't get the last Kickstarter so I also want the Sinister Six and The Infinity Gauntlet.
3 года назад
Then don't. Lot's of overlap. Go for the most bang for your buck.
I went all in on marvel United and love the miniatures. But I really don’t need another of the same type of game that’s going to cost me $300-400 because of FOMO. I would rather spend my money on more games. Like monster hunter or Witcher or wild assent that is coming.
I resold United at a good price, so yes Is it better than United? Yes Is it a good game? Oh god no, it’s a children’s game with razor thin victory margins, not a good combo.
I hate to say it....but I agree. Seems more "LOOK AT THIS NEATO THING" rather than let's make the game better with better mechanics. But we'll see I guess. In for a penny, in for a pound at this point if I'm getting all the other expansions.
The new playmat is designed for both around the table and all on one side, so your preferred play style will work with this mat.
TIL. Sigh. My wallet did not need to know that.
People who confuse simplicity for lack of depth look at Under Falling Skies and scoff at it and miss out on one of the most loaded boxes for the cost I've ever seen. Marvel United hits that same balance of simple presentation and mechanics, with massive amounts of depth.
agreed, but to each their own if they’re happy as long as they don’t rain on other peoples happiness.
Gongrats on getting a shout out from Boardgameco and being one of his top 10 for Kickstarter content in his latest video. Keep up with the amazing work.
Well that's a nice thing to wake up to! Thanks for mentioning it, otherwise I might not have known!
They just changed Apocalypse to a purple Anti-Hero and added a set of hero cards for him to, The Horsemen of Apocalypse expansion.
more more more....
As father your input here is what sold me. Being able to play with my kids but also enjoy with gaming friends is a huge selling point for me. Once you get this KS I hope you do a video to tell us what the kids enjoyed in this version of the game versus the last one.
definitely! I will for sure do that. though....they’re not that nuanced yet either!
@ That's great, my kiddos are on the same level :)
People confuse simplicity for lack of depth. This game has SO MUCH DEPTH POTENTIAL which is evident by the small tweaks allowing for HUGE gameplay variation, hence the skyscraper full of content they're able to produce with very little additional components or iconography required.
agreed
Such a great campaign for an X-Men fan. After I got my Marvel United Pledge and played about ten times in just a week, it was clear that I would back this one two as the variability is the main fun about this game. It's simple and easy to get to the table you're so right about that. My kids are loving it and just watching at those new characters we're all so excited. Going to stay out of the expansions though except for one of two, thinking about getting Deadpool as well now just to make some money out of it next year 😁🤷♂️
agreed
Do your kids know the X-Men characters? For a lighter game that I see people often play with their kids, I wonder if kids will know or care about these lesser known Stretch Goal characters
@@MrScrawnjuan just the basics. But after playing like marvel legendary my 7 year olds favorites include Old Man Logan for example for some unexplainable reason. So hard to account for their taste at all! He also loves Iron Fist because of his special attack name in MU
@ awesome. Was more just kind of a thought I had not having kids myself
Ha, you were right on 4 Wolverines/Logans
I know! my son was super excited to FINALLY see Old Man Logan (one of his favs)....me less so with it being pledge locked....
The fact that my 6 year old son has asked to play the first version everyday since i got it and that i love X-Men means i am all in. Next question is do i go back and get the older stuff too. Not sure yet.
5 & 7 here. agree that it’s a hit with them!
I’m in but I’m waffling constantly on what to get. Maybe you are right about splitting the cost. Do I pledge for the 100 then use the pledge manager to get the all in and pay the difference?
Also. You made no mention of the plastic tokens. I feel the cardboard ones from MU are great so I’m not getting them.
agree on the tokens
What's so interesting in the Phoenix Five expansion? Between that and First Class I feel like we are just getting rehashing of characters over and over.
campaign mode between all 5 with ramifications
The simpler it is, the easier it to teach and the easier to hit the table.
I didn't back the previous one but by surprise everyone loves it.
Theme and being able to hit the table are my priority!
Do you think this game loses its "fun" after a while? Do you find yourself wanted to play a certain character?
The limited variety of symbols kinda hold me back. I really want all characters to be unique.
You think the X-MAN might do better in uniqueness than the previous campaign?
yes for sure x-men will be better. will it get old? just like anything else if you play it to death. how many games would that be though for something like this? a lot. price per play for me is where I’m sold too. I just like the choosing randomly. kinda like how we never purposefully choose the market cards in Aeons End in order to try to game the game or get a big advantage.
@ Awesome! Thank you for clearing out my doubts. You might not be working for CMON but I am "ALL-IN" because of you!
I am worried because its CMON. I find some of their games just meh but people buy into it and hype it because of the brand.
I love X-man more than marvel and would love to have a X-man game in my collection. Replayability, theme and easy to bring it to the table are my priority so your words reassure that
The apocalypse pledge is a given, the addon struggle is real.
too true
My biggest debate is because the stretch goal promos from the previous campaign are locked in the ultimate bundle. I’m glad I even have the chance to buy them but it’s expensive. I also want Thor, Black Panther, and Spider-Man, but not their expansions.
....Also the storage complaints you had in your other video. I’m still going back and forth.
Lastly, the amount of other games I could buy with the money that this costs. I even wonder if I should buy those other games and just get my superhero fix in video games for much less money.
So many choices.....😩
I know..I mean worse case scenario (to play devils advocate), I don't think it will sell on the secondary market for less, if even less than an additional 50-100% cost but it's a lot of money to have tied up at the same time for that long
You might be interested in the playmat as it's double sided with the flip side having the location cards facing the same side
I think this is the top comment of things I missed! I have to consider it now!
"Call me Liege Nostradamus." - hahaha. Watched this 3 times and that made me laugh every time.
thanks! I was hoping someone would catch that!
Does anybody know if I can play with the classic expansions from the first game if I only have the core box from X-men? Would love the sinister six but can't get the first core box here.. 😕
yeah shouldn’t be any problem I think
I was thinking the 100 pledge , sinister 6 , infinity gauntlet, Phoenix five, to me they add so many heroes like Zombicide with recycled abilities they all feel the same . The Enemies seem to be the variety in cmon games . I just don’t know if the card board locations are worth it ?? I’ve never played the game .
Check out a little bit of the gameplay in case you hadn't first just in case to make sure you like how it actually plays. The villains' "BAM" definitely overlaps significantly but way the villains win differs in each game except for the case of where if they ever run out of cards in their deck. I'm going to laminate mine so that's the reason I'm passing but I know that the stock they are made of isn't the most sturdy so I understand why people want them in the first place.
I'm backing at one dollar. I have the base game marvel united. I love the xmen, but holy moly are they bringing everything at this. how many add ons now? of course the deadpool add on has me geeking out
cue the updates from today.....😱
@ I know right? they just keep piling on! all for the low price of 300. lol
Do you think there is going to be an all in offer which inclused extra character Nightcrawler whom I guess lots of People are craving for + an All IN special price?
there will be, but how much savings? not as much as I’d probably like....
Yeah right lol. Either way, no way I'm going all in without Nightcrawler !
Im guessing you would be able to play infinity gauntlet and sinister six with the marvel characters without buying the marvel united core box?
Yup, shouldn't be a problem.
Next campaign will be Fantastic Four is what everyone is anticipating and hoping. SIlver Surfer, Firelord, Dr, Doom, Terrax, Gladiator, Annihilus, Super Skrull, Red Hulk and GALACTUS for finale piece of Marvel United Trilogy!!! To name a few.
Honestly. As much as I'd be interested in some of those...After this one I might be good?
@ True Xmen fan. I respect that. 👌
Well, now fantastic four is an expansion 😂
Easy: It's CMON -> It's No
Besides this I still don't like the style and it's much to expensive for what you get - gamewise not plastic-wise.
But actually I'm very happy for each game that makes it easy to pass ;) So much good game around.
Agreed. lots of good games for all types nowadays!
I was all set. Then they added the sentinels expansion and I have no idea what to do. All in is not going to happen. Phoenix five as a theme has zero interest to me. Deadpool also has no interest. I’m wondering if blue and gold is redundant. Should I get one? But then I’ll miss out on the characters from the other. Argh
I think I might still be all in just also because if there are all the exclusives, resale will hold up too but agreed, Deadpool especially does nothing for me either
I think I am feeling Apoc pledge + Blue + Gold + Phoenix Five + Playmat. Unless the All In is a really good deal...
Same here for the moment. Like u said... Unless a good deal for All In 😊
That is terribly tempting too. I hope for one more really really good expansion but that deadpool left me feeling...lackluster.
I’ll end up buying it all, which I planned from the beginning. Duplication of the characters is my only complaint but at least they play differently. My guess is three Wolverines (Base game, Weapon X and Old Man Logan) once campaign ends.
time will tell. maybe I should have used Deadpool’s lol
Why the Thanos expansion?
It's tougher by far, plus it adds a campaign(ish) sorta development for the end boss fight against Thanos via the infinity stones and power ups.
Honestly, personaly didnt have any interest in this campaign to begin with all together, but appreciate the info ypur giving anyhow boss.
Thanks! Do you and play stuff you like.
Great info thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
The playmat is double sided, so the reading upside down is not an issue with the new one anymore.
Oof. Wallet did not need to know that.
I'm backing nearly everything at the moment but waiting to see what the all in pledge costs.
I went for the base pledge with United and was really happy with the content. My biggest issue with this one is the amount of duplications
I understand its from different eras but there are so many other mutants out there. Also I was looking forward to deadwood but do I need 3 different ones hmmmm
Yeah not super excited by the deadpool expansion either
Damn woulda been awesome to see you in that Quackalope video. They have been doing a bunch of work together in the youtube boardgames community. Hope to see you in one in the future.
This appeals to me more then the First one just because of the X-Men OG animation. I like this playmat more than the previous one. Crap... 🤔🤣
Collaboration is weird around these places. Hope to do some in the future, but I'm also not one good at actively seeking it out often so who knows when/where/who.
@ Yeah, I understand completely. I just got excited hearing the collaboration possibility with them. Your channel, Quackalope, and Board Game Co. Are the channels I watch the most. To know its even a possibility that you may all be in a video together intrigues me I must say. Something I will look forward to greatly if it happens. Like seeing the community on here growing together. You guys help voice our opinions and such. So I thank you greatly for it good sir. Keep doing what you do. I'll keep coming back with or without a collaborate be assured. 💯
The new playmat should be better than the original one. It should be doublesided and 1 side should be for more players all around the table. The other side should be for “solo” play when all players are on 1 side of the table. This is the reason backers from original MU with old mat complain.
Agreed. Thanks!
I'm hoping the all in is a good deal because I want to back everything in this and get the previous content but I'm afraid this will end up being 500 easy with the the amount of stuff already released.
Having said all that, I'm planning on playing through the content and selling off the "samey" feeling heroes and box sets to recoup some money.
That's kinda my feeling fortunately or unfortunately with a few of the smaller expansions from the first ks
Disappointed with multiple iterations of the same character in this one (Cyclops, Beast, Storm, etc). The antihero and Super Villain gameplay concepts are cool, but it feels like they're running short on ideas when they throw in 3 (essentially 4) separate versions of Deapool, etc.
Yeah, that was a strange thing yesterday. The only way to make it solid would to be to make them all very distinctly different and.....I'm not sure I can see that happening.
I missed the first Kickstarter for Marvel United and have just the base game. I'm interested in picking up either the Sinister Six and/or Infinity Gauntlet expansion, but I have no real interest in X-Men. I'd be looking at over $100 plus shipping to get just one of those expansions since a base pledge for X-Men is required. For the weight of the game, the cost just isn't worth it to me.
Agreed. That makes sense not to do definitely then in that case.
As much as I would like to get this game, the cost is simply too much for me.
I more Avengers fan and not X-Men and the most of the characters that I know are in add-ons.
Unfortunately I missed first KS. If I wanted to get all, that would be around 450 USD plus shipping plus VAT (25%).
edit: my kids love Marvel and that's the only reason I'm considering some options :)
Oof. Yeah that VAT has been killer lately on a lot of these bigger projects. I feel for you.
Same boat. I missed the first run and am more of an Avengers guy. Luckily one of our local game stores had some of the other expansions from the Avengers run to pick up. I'll probably just pick up the x-men base game when it hits retail.
I wonder if Monster Hunter is doing “better” because the KS campaign is shorter. They reduced that lull period. I hope more campaigns are shorter.
Yeah, I like the 14-17 days window the best. The 7 or 30 extremes I'm not nearly as fond of.
Ugh....This is getting too expensive for me. As much as I would like to have most everything, I'm not sure I could justify it. I didn't get the last Kickstarter so I also want the Sinister Six and The Infinity Gauntlet.
Then don't. Lot's of overlap. Go for the most bang for your buck.
I went all in on marvel United and love the miniatures. But I really don’t need another of the same type of game that’s going to cost me $300-400 because of FOMO. I would rather spend my money on more games. Like monster hunter or Witcher or wild assent that is coming.
I hear that.
20:49 🙄 *unsubscribe* 😜🤭
I can’t resist sometimes
I resold United at a good price, so yes
Is it better than United? Yes
Is it a good game? Oh god no, it’s a children’s game with razor thin victory margins, not a good combo.
agree to disagree. to each there own
The Deadpool expansion is a let down.
Agreed
Why
I hate to say it....but I agree. Seems more "LOOK AT THIS NEATO THING" rather than let's make the game better with better mechanics. But we'll see I guess. In for a penny, in for a pound at this point if I'm getting all the other expansions.
I agree completely. Unfortunately stupid Deadpool is a fan favourite.