Beating EVERY PS2 Game #64: Shin Megami Tensei 3 Nocturne
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Today on Beating EVERY PS2 Game, I beat game #64, Shin Megami Tensei 3 Nocturne. What a wonderful, crazy, dark, delightful game. I honestly mean it. I may not think the game is that difficult, but it was so good I'm now on a mission to play all of the other SMT games! Enjoy!
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I dont think many people (who are younger like me) realize how many interesting games there are that aren't culturally relevant/ mainstream or new
I love your content ❤
Thank you so much! There are so many games I don’t even know about having grown up with the system, and we’re gonna see so many more! Good ones, bad ones, hilariously bad ones, I cant wait
@@PS2orDieagreed man I was born in 79 and luckily had older brothers so I was pretty much born with a joystick in my hands. I STILL find games for all the systems I grew up with sometimes. Which is awesome!
1:21:07 The remaster is pretty barebones but it has the option of letting you choose the skills during fusion, that alone makes it a far less annoying experience.
I’ve been told that! That sounds so nice, I’ll never forget the 3 hours total of just menuing for the right abilities…
@@PS2orDie Sadly Atlus only dropped random inheritance after the PS2 era so there's a lot of rerolling in your future. At least the DDS games don't have a fusion system and let you pick what you want from a skill tree.
@@hngdmanDDS is so good too, as much as I love Nocturne DDS just really hits the spot for me in a way that I didn't know I needed
Absolutely top tier gaming content. You are such a great narrator. I'm so glad I found this channel. Excellent job man!
That really means a lot! I feel I’ve gotten better narrating over the past year and a half, although I’ve been a bit self conscious about it. You definitely gave me more courage!
Yes featuring Dante from the devil may cry series
Devil may cry 2 specifically!
For any kids wondering, this is the game series Pokemon got its collecting monsters, evolving, and breeding from. It’s a much darker more adult themed series, and unlike Pokémon it has been evolving. The definitive version of Shin Megami TensI 5 Vengeance just dropped on all modern consoles and PC if you want to see what becomes of the series
That’s right! SMT 5 Vengence is also great and definitely worth it. Thanks for the info!
the dificulty is proportional by how you endure dungeons and how you understand buffs and debuff works, the game is challenging (some bosses in tde are very BS) but its pretty okay most of the times
Yeah the more you’re able to understand the systems in place, the easier it is to exploit them. Although, you need to understand how to do that too, you could understand the press turn system all you want but you’ll have to get creative to make it work for you! Really the reason I say it’s not that hard is to hopefully convince someone who’s always been afraid to try the game since most people say it’s very very difficult. So yeah, there’s definitely some challenge here, but even a little advice can make it easier to play!
Figured I'd put in some corrections/info you wouldn't necessarily know without diving deeper:
Resistances (aka reduced damage) don't take away additional turn icons, the attack has to miss or deal no damage. And if the target either drains or repels the attack, the attacker loses all press turns
The "acting wildly" thing is determined by which Magatama you have equipped. Each have a pool of effects it can give you
During a full moon, you generally can't recruit demons, but the demon races that normally don't understand you (Haunt, Foul, and Ooze) can be spoken to then. It also allows you to perform a sacrificial fusion where after you selct your first two demons, you can out in a third and have that demon's exp carried over to the fused demon. This normally doesn't change what demon you're making, but there are a few "secret" combinations that require you to fuse and sacrifice specific demons.
The moon phase also determines the odds of finding the rare item in treasure chests, full moon means you're guaranteed to find the good item otherwise there's a chance you'll just find a Life Stone.
Lastly, the each moon phase slightly changes the Elementals and Mitama sold at the gem store (he might sell one that's higher level and with additional skills)
Figured I'd also mention you create your own elementals and mitama. Two demons of the same race/lineage creates an elemental, and two elementals create a mitama
@@Paws42 This is super helpful and I really appreciate it!
From what i remember, the amala network did have a system - something about the streams of magatsuhi flowing on the ground, the lowest stream was the correct path i think. And the fiends are needed to be defeated for the canon ending
Ah ok that makes sense, I’ll use this next time I play!
Wow bro this is an insane journey good luck🤯
Haha thanks! It’s gonna be a long one…but I’m ready for it
Everytime I get a notification about a new video or stream, it makes me want to get a PS2 and find my favorite games again ❤ (I'm so hyped for all the DBZ games)
Ah a DBZ enthusiast! Which is your favorite? I am not the greatest at those games so it might be rocky, but hopefully I’ll beat them
@PS2orDie definitely budakai tenkaichi 3! So many memories with it. But pretty much all the budakai games where good. I believe there's actually a new one coming out finally 😭
I remember picking this game up on a whim because I thought the cover looked cool and because I'm from Europe it had the classic meme badge on the front "featuring Dante from The devil may cry series" lol one of my best blind purchases
Haha awesome! What a weird tie in that ended up being pretty cool
So glad I was informed of this channel 😅 I'm gonna need to get back to SMT 3 HD (PS4) and chip away at that Platinum after I wrap up the just released SMT 5 Vengeance on PS5 (so good now that it isn't stuck on the Stinky Switch 😂 4k and ESPECIALLY 60fps does the game a world of good 👌)
CAN'T WAIT for you to do Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2, Devil Summoner Raidou 1 & 2 and definitely Persona 4 (just saw that you've already done Persona 3 FES so I'll check that vid out after this one) these are easily 6 of the BEST games ever made on the PS2, right up there with Sony's own 1st Party Output during that Generation.
This is awesome, good luck on the long journey playing through the PS2 Library... I've got all the PS2 Games I'll ever truly want/play but I still enjoy actively game hunting for more PS2 Gems whenever I can.
Ooohhh I’m playing vengence on the switch! I see you’re enjoying the 4k version, jealous!
I’m so excited to play them. I’m saving up for the ENTIRE SMT collection on the console and when I get them (which is soon) I’ll have an SMT extravaganza where I play them all in a row! It’ll be a great time
I really appreciate it, this challenge has been wonderful and I’m so glad to meet so many cool people. There’s going to be so many good games to find along the way, after we wade through the bad ones of course
@@PS2orDie Glad you're playing the newer games as well 😁 To be fair, I also grabbed it on Switch for the Collection (I own every Atlus game Physically across PS4/PS5/Switch cause I'm such a big fanboy of them haha) and it's great there too of course 😁
If you haven't already (and have access) I'd highly recommend grabbing SMT 4 on the 3DS, I personally think it's their overall best SMT Game in terms of all the aspects combined (Story/Characters/Music/Lore etc.) and these days I'd even say I'd rank it above any of the Persona games too (got my start like a lot of people with the Persona games, P3 back on the PS2 to be exact)
Assuming you're in the US (going off your voice/accent 😅) you can grab a Physical Copy and play it, the 3DS is Region Locked unfortunately and the game only ever released Digitally on the eShop here in Australia and the rest of the PAL Regions (though it was always CHEAP as hell, it was also released like 2 Years later here for whatever reason) which means it is now lost to time since Nintendo shut the 3DS/Wii U eShop down a couple months back... Thankfully I still have my New 3DS XL and the game/DLCs downloaded, even imported a US Physical copy to add to my shelf/collection cause I love the game so much 👌
Ose is actually supposed to be a leopard. I think people see him as a cheetah because of his kinda lean scrawny build. The model in this game also has the wrong head shape and his fur spots aren't detailed enough, but they fixed that in later games. In SMT4 and Persona 5 he has a much more leopard-like head and his fur is detailed enough to see that he has rosettes instead of plain spots.
Haha yeah I figured he wasn’t a cheetah but he looked close enough I made the joke about Action 52 Cheetahman. I appreciate it though! Many will see him as one, the more you know!
Pretty obvious it’s a leopard? Easy to see in smt v too where there’s tons in area 3.
Jesus dude… you are insane. So keen
Hey, if this is insanity, I’m cool with it
@@PS2orDie me too 😂 I’ll be along for the ride. I love series like this. I do fests of consoles on streams where I do like 3-6 games in a row from that console but this is a whole new level! There’s a guy doing every n64 game currently, has been for a few years now.
One of the best games the PS2 has to offer, though I would like to correct you that Nocturne was considered a financial failure (to Atlus) selling only 270k rather than the expected 350k
But the reason why people found Nocturne difficult is the lack of usage buffs and debuffs as that's what make's Nocturnes battle's unique as there's more strategy besides throwing attacks till the thing is dead.
Battles make you think.
Really hope you get to Digital Devil Saga since I think it's more interesting than Nocturne story and gameplay wise.
Oh wow, my bad! Thanks for correcting me, i never looked at the sales figures. I suppose the cult following is to blame! Nah, it’s a fantastic game, and I’m glad it makes you think. I love rpgs with a bit of depth.
Also, absolutely I will be playing DDS. I have a goal running on my stream for ALL the SMT games, once we reach it (probably soonish) I’ll buy all of the games and play them in a row! It’ll be an SMT extravaganza!
Tbh, buffs and debuffs are incredibly useful in the vast majority of RPGs, the main difference in Nocturne and a number of other SMT titles is that leveling up doesn't make that big of a difference. I've found that a very large number of RPGs require no to minimal grinding if you properly utilize buffs and debuffs.
@@cruelcumber5317 I'm interested to see how the rest of the RPG's go. Maybe we can keep track of the games I can finish quickly assuming I can actually take advantage of those things!
You've come a long way, friend.
Thanks dude! It has been a long time, thanks for being here, I really appreciate it
@@PS2orDie Glad you still remember me :)
Awesome job defeating another game!
Thanks! It was a long game but I really liked it, on to Mega Man!
this makes me want to play the game again
It’s totally worth it!
I've heard so many horror stories about how difficult Nocturne was that it actually made me scared to keep playing, and by the time I finished it, I realized how full of BS everyone was, this game ain't that hard! I can certainly imagine it being tricky on Hard Mode, but on Normal? I was _steamrolling_ through the final dungeon! The final boss was a JOKE! Sure, I didn't fight Lucifer because I wanted the Freedom ending, but Kagutsuchi was a piece of cake.
While I believe the game can still be difficult for some, what I wanted most was to get newer people to play it, especially if they felt like it was too hard from all the videos about it. I’m glad you had exactly this experience, you got to play a really cool game even after you originally thought it might be too hard. Thanks for sharing!
As a long time smt fan(whise first atlus experience waa through etrian odyssey back in 2013) the difficulty is exaggerated and harder than it really is. Not saying the game is super easy, only a few bosses can mess you up even on normal like the riders, Skadi, or girimekalah and Noah(because of them being the only 2 that put. Awrench in your melee build). Most of the difficulty comes from breaking the habits you make in rpgs outside of megaten when og Strange Journey, earlygame smt 4 and persona 2 innocent sin seem harder in comparison.
@@KazShiro ah yeah that’s fair. I know RPG’s aren’t for everyone, especially some of the more obscure ones, but this one is so good I figured I would try and convince new players to join. It may be hard, but hopefully some advice would help them experience it!
The game can be very frustrating if you are playing it blind *and* it's your first MegaTen game. There is very little hand-holding, and you have to figure a lot out by time-consuming trial and error (in a game that's easily 80+ hours anyway). Like imagine reaching Matador where your only demon with rakukaja has a force weakness _and_ you don't even know the names of all of the buff/debuff spells, nor do you know which demons resist force or how to fuse them.
Yeah, outside of content that was added on well after vanilla SMT 3 (Fiends/Lucifer, especially in remaster since Lucifer was buffed in Raidou mode), I would agree. And even hard mode is mostly trivial outside of the occasional BS Mudo/Iron Claw crit ambush setting you back. Base game bosses just don't do much damage, nor do they handle any buff advantage well. As for Mot, well you can beat him in 1 turn by simply using the press turn system as intended (spam Bolt Storm).
Oh you feel hard mode is also not as difficult? I’m still interested in coming back to play through it and get the true demon ending in hard, maybe it’s not as daunting!
@@PS2orDieenemies do 2x damage and are supposed to have a slightly smarter AI. But the main difficulty bump is prices in shop are 3x than on normal lol
@@CykaBlyatAlex I do love a challenging rpg, thanks for the info!
@@PS2orDiein hard mode Lucifer has like 4x the hp and has a full heal that he uses at low hp
@@Vanity0666 Oh boy, that’s a scary sounding fight! I will attempt it one day!
Just received another copy of this for PS4 in the mail today, so the Algorithm certainly is omniscient & based!
Also, yes, the game is NOT HARD if you’ve grown up playing Dragon Quest or even just Pokèmon (Red & Blue for me) but if you came in from P5 or something that piss easy? It might be a challenge 🤷🏽♂️
Ah another SMT enjoyer! It may have been my first, but damn I’m ready to play the rest of them on ps2!
@@PS2orDie if you liked/loved this one, you’re just gonna completely enjoy Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2! Those are games that deserve to be “remastered” or just outright remade for modern consoles just like Nocturne!
Can’t wait to see the videos!
@@yeez13 well good news, it might be soon that I’m able to buy EVERY SMT game for the ps2 and when I do, I’ll play them all in a row!
Disagree. The game is genuinely hard. Not hard if you have experience playing with advantages like weaknesses ect. Most people just over level for JRPGs. This is one of the rare ones where you can be mega over leveled and still get bodied
Also just wanna compliment your upload timing- New SMT game drops in a few days. Your video probably gonna slip right into the algorithm.
Fair enough! While I wasn’t necessarily thinking players wouldn’t understand advantages in combat, I do forget this knowledge is second nature to me. Maybe I have it easier in these situations. I appreciate it.
Also, I am very excited to get Vengence, honestly it was luck that I happened to release it so close!
That doesn't make it hard. That just means you have to actually use your brain instead of mindlessly grinding.
Finally
Pfft it was so long!
@@PS2orDie you think that’s bad? I probably thug out a good 6-10 hours recording plus another 4-8hr editing on weekends 😅
I never really thought Nocturne was super hard either myself.
Something funny I like to tell people while they're around halfway through the game and they're saying "alright I think I got past the hardest parts now, man this game kicked my ass but I really liked it", I then tell them that if they're on Normal mode, the game is halving all damage they take.
Yeah. The damage formula on Hard has damage work the same way for you and enemies, and on Normal your team takes half damage. It isn't the other way around, like a lot of people say it is! The game was designed for Hard first, then they realized "oh, shit, this is kinda fucked up" and made that Hard Mode, and created Normal.
No way. That’s crazy! I may come back one day and play through hard along with getting the true demon ending. That’ll humble me!
Currently doing my first playthrough of the game and of course my one friend that is a huge smt fan suggested i play on Hard and also im doing the true demon ending. I just beat metatron so im mostly towards the end, but this game definitely kicked my ass a couple times. Also ive played all the persona games on hard so i have at least some experience.
@@nazzify6417 Nice! Are you liking it? More or less than Persona?
@@PS2orDie I like just as much as persona but its definitely very different. Im actually planning on beating it today in time for the smt 5 pc release :)
@@nazzify6417 hell yes! I’m excited too! You’ll have to tell us what you think of it
SMT Nocturne is NOT hard and I'm tired of people saying it is bc it scares people from trying the game
It may still be hard for some, but this is exactly why I said this. Some may disagree, but I hope I’m able to persuade some new players to give this great game a chance!
True Demon Route is pretty tough, Beelzebub Fly and Lucifer can be bullshit at times
Especially if you don't have stuff like the Masakados magatama or big damage abilities like Charge + Freikugel
@@Vanity0666 oh there are still difficult parts of the game, but I feel in general it’s not so hard new players will give up
Its like fear and hunger if you know what you do you will break game in 2
U callin smt v harder? Lmao. I mean you’re right, smt v is brutal but 3 nocturne is hard as well.
i didnt beat it but Nocture is harder than most games but not by anything extreme . combat is not the difficulty but the dungions and level design. the game is fuking trolly. its a good game all and all but i would not say it was very FUN
What the hell is with the "RUN" option? that does not work, it never even once worked. Is it joke? If Run is a wasted turn your better to kill everything. it is based on the moon phase there is a high encounter rate.
PIXIE! outside of pokemon who keeps there very first monster?. She does not learn any new skills untill end game. You need to keep your STARTING Pixie if she is fused she is gone. you cant fuse another pixie its not the same. There is no way anyone knows this on a first playthough. the game is simpley trolly
Haha yeah the game has some interesting choices in the realm of fusion. So for me, I ran from most fights. There are times it fails, but I was able to run maybe 90% of the time successfully. As for pixie, I never used her after a few hours in so it never mattered to me. Although it’s very easy to just register her in the compendium and resummon her if needed.
It’s not an easy game for sure, but with a little advice from other players, it’s possible for anyone to beat it and enjoy it!
Demons dont run away
Hard mode has less than 10% chance to run unless you use Trafuri. On Normal it's 50% I think. As for the Pixie, she can evolve and can be fused, just don't dismiss her
@@lorispomari1880 oh wow! Yeah hard mode seems pretty challenging
If you feel the need to run you're already doing something wrong. Also why do you care about pixie?
So you didnt even beat the game lmao
Ah you’re right! I assume the developers accidentally fell and programmed this ending of the game, complete with credits, and mistakenly sent off hundreds of thousands of copies of the game before they could remove this error. What a crazy situation, I’ll be back to finish it soon. Hopefully I don’t make the same mistake again, I mean the true demon ending is what I want to avoid most. I heard if you get that ending, you get sent a letter of unrecognition that states as such.
I was just pulling your leg
@@pdiddy1515 haha you kidder! I try not to take things too seriously just in case, so I hope it came across as funny.