HORRIBLE cylinder porting... Stihl 026 036 OEM cylinders RUINED!!! Eye-opener 100%
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Here is some good advice to anyone getting into this game that someone gave to me...
"Make sure you would be okay with anything you send out ending up on RUclips for everyone to see..."
😳 that isn't even port work, that's taking out so much material he's saving it as scrap to pay for his bath salt addiction.
😂😂
hahahaha
I would be surprised if it even ran just looking at the intake alone 🤦♂️
@@ChippyOutdoors the 026 didn't
@@johnscustomsaws 🤦♂️
John knows when he’s been outclassed…we still love ya buddy🤣
If the builder doesn't make it right I would put him on blast because he doesn't deserve to wreck cylinders anymore! Because if the person wrecks stuff like that on someone else's dollar then they deserve to be put on blast!
I will trust me
I’d out that guy. Who knows how many more people he’s screwed. There’s absolutely no need to protect and cover this guy.
Yeah I'm giving him the opportunity to make it right... im a business and I am already stepping into a "unprotected zone" by putting the video up but im sick of it
put it this way... his favorite animal is a SABRE TOOTH tiger... and he builds SAWS ....
I bet I know who it is
Is that because of his lisp??
@@coltermoore9217you just ousted him….
This is why you're a valuable channel. It's respectable to not completely ruin the guy, but at the same time, people have to go other places when you and some of the other best builders are too busy... So some people will inevitably go to a shotty guy and be absolutely pissed they didnt know who it was.
For all we know, this could have been his work... People who talk as vile as he did here are NOT the professional they claim to be. This guy projects his own crap onto others and blames them for behaviors he exhibits. Psychology 101, demonstrated plain as day...
Large ports do not always create more and efficient flow. Maintaining fast airflow while increasing some volume is what gets you big power, atleast in the car hot rodding world. I have no experience with two strokes so trying to learn from these saw shop guys like John
Good on you John, there needs to be a standard when porting cylinders, especially oem cylinder. Porting isn’t for everyone
Thanks John. I recon the hole in the intake is to help increase the boundary layer, to improve air flow
To quote the Simpsons ''It looks like it's been hacked by a blind woodsman.''
😂😂
Great video, you should tell who it is so someone else doesn't get screwed.
I know you want to be professional but I would like to know the builder so not to ever use them. Ssyinb that I appreciate your professionalism and would try to get you to do my work. Thx for the videos and your time.
Same
Love the muskrat bathsalt thing. You taught me the most in this one. Exactly what not to do when porting. Somebody should take that guys tools from him and let him make more burgers at McDonald's. 👊
Psychological twist to the story... It was his work, and that's why he wouldn't rat the guy out...
PUT HIM ON BLAST!!!!! The people wanna know!!!
"Put the dremel down and step away from the cylinder" That's some of the worst, no, that IS the worst I've ever seen. Absolutely shameful work. It's really hard to imagine this guy has been doing this for a while. Looks like a childs first attempt.
My first attempt wasn't that bad
Yea exactly.
@@cajun3197 🧐
Ya I agree kinda odd from someone who has done for while . Apparently doesn't learn
Now I'm really gonna be sick! 😳🤢🤮🤣😂🤙🏾🤙🏻
That's absolutely atrocious- not only a waste of good cylinders but a complete violation of ethics and decency. I have a small saw business and do some porting work, rebuilds, repair etc. I would be embarrassed and hopefully shamed out of business for allowing that work to pass mustard under any circumstances. Good for you for continuing to show others that GOOD and decent people are still possible to find in the saw world through your work. Wayyyy too many scammers in this business, from sellers to porters.
here in europe, we have piston & cylinder "meteor" brand, from italien manufacturer, they are high quality set, maybe better than oem sometimes, and much cheaper than oem, but much pricer than chinese manufacturer ( approximately 120$ for a piston/cylinder kit for any chainsaw). For me, rework cylinders holes is a bad idea, because chainsaw are open-air cooling, and it cause wreaking on long term use.
No it doesnt lol
Well......now I'm dying to know who did that trash lol
I would like to see the saw after you port them like a comparison. Keep up they good work can't wait to see what's next. And please fix those saws for that poor guy. Lol
I can't save the 026 cylinder and the 036 is borderline but I should be able to salvage it
I think my boxer could do better. If he doesn’t cough up for new cylinders he should be shamed. And he should be ashamed of his work. Good on you for trying to help them out. Keep up the good work.
I've portet my first cylinder last weekend. I thought that it looks like mine, but this is wild.
I really really wish we knew so we didn't send something to him..... 🙄
Agreed!
Yep I think this person should be made famous so no one uses him and gets ripped off
I wanna know who it is
@@FishFind3000 Seriously me as well!
Hi John,
it will be awesome, if you make a tutorial on the 026 porting and muffler... please, please :)
Thanks man. You can do my cylinders anytime. Your work speaks for it self. You build a real bad ass saw. I love the black plastic. Nice. Love your channel.
i get not blasting a mo fo!! but you can’t let more people go to that porter!! your going to have to find a tactful way to get his name out there for that shitty of work, to keep others from getting ripped off brother!!!
That’s what I thought at first, but it looks like he’s waiting to see if the guy makes it right with the customer. I get that. He will be DONE if not, I can personally promise you that👍🏻
@@IndianaDoug thats the way to do it brother!!!
@@IndianaDoug or maybe he wants them to get taken care of and then blast them guy. If he gets his name ruined he would have no reason to make things right. Get the people there money and parts back then ruin his name.
Im 58 and been a mecanic my entire lifeand i see it every day. I see so many wana be mecanics . My grandfather was a mechanic my father was a mechanic and both taught me one thing if you don't know exactly what you are doing don't do it . I take pride in my work and am the best at what i do and would never screw up a customers stuff and say i did make a mistake i go above and behond to correct that mistake. These so called porting jobs look like something a 3 year old would do .
I was and still am technically a mechanic for over 20 years and man I have seen some shit brother I know you have too... I have more examples of some fine work I will show you guys... this one the guy doesn't care if I mention his name
I think most of us would appreciate you giving us a heads up on who to stay away from. This is hack work and I'd hate to be the customer who paid for a butcher job. That 026 was so bad even the trash can didn't want it😝.
that 26 was the worst i have ever seen... i have seen a lot of horrible work tho and i might be outing the dude cuz he aint making it right so stay tuned... damn shame
@@johnscustomsaws hold people responsible. Show no mercy.
When you pitched that junk jug, it was so bad it wasn`t even trashcan worthy. I do like the smooth finish on the exhaust port, nice job.
Nope, In my industry we oust the crap. The people deserve to know.
Hey John, that guy will create his own demise without you mentioning his name.. I've said it before, your workmanship is second to none.. I have been porting for fun on my own saws for a few years now and my first few jugs were better than that guys.. Having been self employed for almost 30 years in construction I know what over booked can do for quality.. Quality can never suffer, that is your name on that work.. The best saw builders are always a bit late on deadlines, I'll take late over substandard any day.. Much appreciated John, keep em comin.. SLANT'E
I'm across the other side of the world, but for some reason ironhorse rings a bell. 🤔
That would be my guess as well.
Full send! 😂😂😂
The envy is real🤣
@Justagearhead 100%👆
That's what my hack job would look like if I ported! Your cylinder looks way better.
The hole on the intake is probably for extra airflow lol. It's disgusting that someone sends out saws in that state.
That's part of the OVERDRIVE SYSTEM! 🙄😳🤗🤣😂🤙🏾
Yup, that’s just some very poor work that the guy did. NO doubt about it.
Good show on your part for being the professional that YOU are👍
My 5 year old could do better work honestly
What are talking about he did his best,come on give the some credit..😳🙄🤔🤥💩🤭🤫🤣😂🤙🏾
If you hear of more people getting ripped off, you need to let people know so they can stay away from this guy...
Its not right people wasting their hard earned money on BS like that
That guy needs to get exposed that way people don't get ripped off that's some of the shittiest work I've seen
@@andrewotero1972 i will make another video where I can show the company they came from because they already went under... I have seen work like this before more than you would believe... I didn't realize it was new to you guys to see work that terrible... ive seen dozens of shit hack job cylinders
I will definitely show you guys that this isn't actually that rare to see absolutely terrible port work... I have more examples and with the guys sticker right on the saw and they are probably worse than these... maybe not the 026 that's gotta be the worst I have ever seen actually
@@johnscustomsaws it sucks to see people getting rip off !! Try to stay warm!!! Snow day = shop time!
@@andrewotero1972 so i have been letting people know to watch out for any SABRE TOOTH tigers especially if they run CUSTOM SAWS ... i hope that helps to warn you from getting bit...
Got a new sub here! i like your work. hobbyist automotive porter. ill go binge watch more of your stuff. Thanks!
Wow im actually motivated to have a go at my cheep Chinese cylinder now.
I would not want to be around "a pissed off muskrat on bath salts".
What goes around comes around…. Great vids man!
You should reveal who did this so no one else gets screwed by this individual.
Iron horse.
Bro . . . Out him. We don’t want to send a saw to this dude not knowing
I get sometimes not always getting your mark when your learning how to port cylinders or acidentally slipping or snagging a ring but thats bad. Not gonna lie ive been ripped off like that before so ive been learning to port my own saws and my customers saws so that they dont get ripped off either
Great video people that do shit work like that are the reason I don't have my 036 pro done it is virtually a new old saw that works great have a good day be safe and keep up the quality it shows and it pays.
If I were to try my hand at cyl. Porting. That's actually how I imagined my first couple to look like.
Literally aluminum garbage "the carbon catch special ". Helen kellers school of Porting !
Wow.... thanks for showing that.
Enjoy your videos, hope the guy in question pays you to do the work correctly otherwise he should be identified as the "Hack" in question. Thank you for doing the video
Pissed off muskrat on bath-salts hahaha love it
Get em John it’s lovey how things play out sometimes
I've personally had this done to me brand new 562xp builder was highly recommended ruined a literally brand new saw never fired looked like he used a cold chisel to port it wish I could post pics. Guy wanted me to trade for a used saw to make it right haha.
That sucks... its a lot more common than people realize... ive seen it so many times its sickening... hope you got something sorted out at least... 562s are rippers
Hi John. Im new to your channel and love your builds man . I would love to see a before and after comparison video on one of your builds. I think it would be a hit.
I've done videos like that but I will definitely do more
@@johnscustomsaws , awesome 🤘
That hole is the intake boot impulse line volcano crater vent turbo stack
" got a muskrat all fucked up and on Bath salts ! " lmao
Stealing oem 200t parts is grounds for dismisal... id be at his front door showing him how country folks roll
I would name and shame him if he's been dissing you.keep up the good work
For $29.95 you could have the same port work! 🤣
No half sends around here 😂😂😂
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From a novice porter. I'm speechless.
Wow, I’ve never ported a cylinder in my life but I reckon I could do a better Job than that just from watching your videos………if I had the tools to do it that is
you could do a better job with a hammer and chisel my man... that 026 is the worst i have ever seen and that is coming from a guy that has seen some real gems lol
@@johnscustomsaws I’ll give it a try 😂
I think a hammer will be just fine! Just beat the shit out of it!😳🙄🥺🤣😂🤙🏾
Porting too thin casting walls will lead to cracks . No , DON'T port too thin . And the texture to the port job of that clown is RIDICULOUS .
Question: were these jugs put back on the saws after porting? Surely the customer saw his saws run before paying the “builder” 🤷🏻♂️
These cylinders look like they are freshly ground and have not been run yet.
They were not ran obviously... another reason I have a problem with it... not test running the saws to check your work is unacceptable... selling "as-is" is a shady way to do business
@@johnscustomsaws ahhh ok, I think I understand, so the customer tried to go back to the “builder” but he essentially said as-is/too bad? That all kinds of messed up😳 like sue in court type stuff.
@@IndianaDoug yeah he got the same "copy and paste" message as other guys that have had this same result and they can't really do shit unfortunately because they are agreeing that there are no guarantees before the job is done so its the ultimate scam
We know you do great work man, but you got a lot of catching up to do apparently! Hahaha
I like how your intake has that arrow looking thing idk what to call it I’m not going to lie man I know nothing when it comes down to basic porting I just squat an shit an pray it don’t hit my foot I seriously would like to Lear but I’ve ruined 2 066 cylinders 1st hanging a ring 2nd I went to far so I kinda ran out of funds
It’s about weight reduction too…duh!!! J, you are still learning.
Really enjoying your channel. It’s nice to see a guy showing and explaining what he does and why he does it. Keep up the excellent work. 👍🏼
There are so many you tube “saw porters” out there making unreal claims and putting out a total garbage product. I’ve personally been involved in helping to rectify their garbage and have also been on the receiving end of the garbage. It’s just sickening and so flustering.
Im gonna do another video from a company that went out of business so I dont have to protect any "code" and they are straight up gnarly
@@johnscustomsaws I’m 99% sure I know who you’re referencing. If it’s who I’m thinking of they were located not far from me. I had actually emailed them asking for prices on several items for a customers saw. I never got a reply. Guess we dodged a bullet.
I’m located in southern Ontario. Just curious John, roughly where you’re located?
@@CFBsaws im in Minnesota... there are so many hack job saw porting outfits its crazy... the other guy was "Saber saws" or something similar to that but he went under
@@johnscustomsaws I was thinking of gnarly chainsaw co.
@@CFBsawsagain I gotta be careful with what I say but I know about 37,000 people that have "allegedly" gotten ripped off by some gnarly dude... all I know 😬
I've ported one saw, and I knew right away that the port jobs on those cylinders were total bull$hit. Whoever that is should be exposed. Guys are spending their hard earned money on that thinking they're getting a great product for a great price.
Yet another reason why I much prefer engines that put out in stock form to those that need the die-grinder, precious things. Meeting emissions specs a big plus too, for us air-breathers. Pass.
Personally, since I'm not confortable practicing porting on a cylinder, I would just go for a very conservative porting, or I would just go for a muffler port polishing, instead of ruining an oem cylinder that way; or at least to experiment a bit I would try on cheap chinese cylinders, not on oem, or quality aftermarket parts... People are crazy sometimes🤷🏻♂️
Edit: at least since I do a lot of repair on aluminum casting I would be able to fix that shit, but it's probably not worth my time
Hey John is a stihl 28” light bar too much for a stock 362 doing some bucking?
They can run a 25” without issue but any bigger and oiling becomes an issue.
Custom stuff right there. Perhaps maybe said person should take a seat and take notes.
Your blowing up John
I just noticed that Holy shit lol... I was sick for a few days and all the sudden I got a video with 80k views and its just some random video 🤦♂️ no nitrous saw or expansion chamber nothing like that... just a random nothing special video... man RUclips is crazy brother
@@johnscustomsaws I love it!
Mcdouble 😂😂thats one impressive 1121 cylinder 🤷🤦♂️
Did you put a vane in that intake?
do you do huskys to or just stilts
A muskrat on bath salts. ;0 Wow Mabey a beaver on bath salts ported it. Thats some Mcshitty work. aww babys first die grinder.
The other problem is that cylinders with coatings either should be left alone or let a known pro do it
Thats got to be steel donkeys work thats the nickname i give him.his porting is absolutley shocking.
#1 - It's 1 thing to be professional Re someone else's porting but if this guy STOLE parts outta someone's saw, swapped-down to inferior aftermarkets, that's straight-up textbook theft, it's not "nice not to put him on blast" it's nice not to file legal charges....I'm the last to ever advocate talking-ill but if I'm understanding that right it's not even about the silly craftsmanship w/ a grinder it's legitimate theft/fraudulent business practices that everyone should be lucky enough to know to avoid IMO.
#2 - "Starts on the transfers and gives-up" yup sadly looks like he forgot or didn't care... I'd say that that itself betrays a flawed-approach to transfer-porting in general though, I'd LOVE your advice on this (as a newb w/o a right-angle grinder so only lowers & tunnels on my menu's ;D ), but I'd NEVER just "do 1 side's lower" in its entirety, I move "in pieces" / by area, from each side back&forth, to ensure EVEN-NESS in my transfers....I cannot help but think that uneven transfers are SIGNIFICANTLY more serious an affect (negatively) on the engine than *any* possible gains from the intervention, being dead-on symmetrical is requisite (and why I don't bother trying to 'touch up' my uppers w/ a regular dremel anymore, I just enhance their flow via their tunnels & back-end depth, not window shape...even the 100mm shaft bits, cut to 70mm to just-barely fit, have too much wobble to be used effectively, can show the ruined jugs to prove I did try!!)
#3- ROFL at the 'bath salt muskrat' that's totally in my vocabulary now!!
There is a big difference between a professional and someone that can do it. I wonder how many expensive off the shelf 461-2,,660 etc have gone down this road. That would be a super suck on a brand new $$1500 saw.
A lot, everyone with a dremel is a porter.
I am 63 a trained mechanic and that porting is not that like all the me too guys think. There seems to be no method to all the madness.I can make a stock saw run so fast and hard and strong I won't put a unlimited coil on it because I don't need the Extra wear and tear.
New shirt for ya. "Compression Matters" coming soon!
You got a real purdy exhaust hole there bud
WOW 😳...that's terrible someone would charge money for that kinda work..what a POS 🤙🏻🪓😎
Hell, I could do better than that with hand files, and I don’t even do port work🤣🤣🤣
@@IndianaDoug 🧐😂
Should expose him so that no one else get the same thing
Do you sell ms260 ported cylinders?
😂 a pissed off muskrat on bath salts let loose on a cylinder head
Can you recommend any saws that are mostly metal? I want to restore and paint one real nice, feels wrong painting plastic though.
You would have to find an older saw im thinking... the newer saws are almost all plastic
Stihl 041 farm boss, homelite super ez, homelite super xl
The old Stihl 020 av was completely metal I believe.
MCCULLOCH 10-10! I restore them all the time. Parts are plentiful
@@glennpupino4890 I actually just brought an Mcculloch mini mac 30 to do a bit of work on…. Super cheap which is nice.
No you are not professional for not calling him out, you're an enabler. By not making his name known all you are doing is protecting him from the consequences of his actions.
Put them on blast an honest mistke is 1 thing ripping people off is another
I’m new to porting saws can you just port the exhaust side and leave the intake and the others alone or do you have to port them aswell ?
Some saws need intake work and you nearly leave the exhaust side alone, some saws (Stihl 661, 200T) you do very little to the intake and work mostly on the exhaust. Just depends on the saw.
Pretty shit work on combustion chamber also....I'd really love to know who it was so knew who to send work to
Maybe that hole in the side of the intake is for injecting nitrous. 🤣
Did he ever come clean John ??
Man that’s some nasty ass work. Goes to prove some people have no sense of pride
That hole in the intake is a blue tooth Boost port..
A muscrat loose and on bath salts. 😂 😂 😂
You should put the guy out there. He knows he did shit work. He should suffer the consequences of his choices. The people are the ones that will suffer.
Is that chassis bare, treated metal? Have seen that finish in your vids & presumed it was a metal-tone coating, if you got a raw finish to work I'd greatly appreciate any details you could provide!! Would totally be on that (am guessing you probably just had the case apart and soaked it in solvent stripper....and I don't wanna take my case apart for that...hrrrmmm)
I love that my instinct was to watch this as my first video while doing a cylinder here, IE "ok port so that it's OK for camera" ROFL, you know how sometimes something can look bad on camera despite being fine by-finger (maybe that says something about over-reliance on the finger for smoothness-detection....though I doubt it....I'm pretty OCD here I even give my rings' edges the slightest rub with >400g paper before ever putting them in and am actually using "break in only" ring on my current build, to be swapped right out shortly so the Caber ring won't take as-much of the initial break-in loss, I *think* this'll help but who knows maybe the piston//cylinder are 'bedding-in to one another' and keeping the matching/beginning set is optimal...we'll see I'll be playing with both through the coming week!)
Thanks again for all the great vids, realllllly hoping there's a simple enough way of getting the crnakcase paint off w/o needing the case dissembled, I like your RIT video and I do RIT on all of my saws or most anyways, think you're the 1st person I've seen who's got more "flamboyant" (cool/dope/whatever) saws than my own, yours actually earn it in every way possible though it makes me feel like I have a lightning bolt sticker & muffler tip on a 4-banger Honda :P
Poor Oem cylinders especially the Mahle..😪
What's wrong with Mahle oem cylinders as they have made them for husqvarna and stihl on some of the best saws both companies ever made and the newer stuff that isn't mahle is junk
Wow just wow!!!!!
Maybe I've been far too critical of my port work🤔. Just so I have this right, this guy took money for this?
I know right, shit I would've paid em to NOT touch the saw!😳🙄💩🤭🤭🤫🤣😂🤙🏾