THIS GAME PUTS TOTAL WAR NAVAL BATTLES TO SHAME! - Ultimate Admiral: Age of Sail 2022 Review
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Total War naval battles are a pretty divisive topic of discussion. In Rome 2 and Attila they were arguably straight up broken with ramming spam and the AI having no idea what it was doing, in Empire and Napoleon it was a lot of fun mainly because it actually worked as intended, and in Shogun 2 Fall of the Samurai Naval Warfare actually shined through as being one of the most beloved features.
Naval Warfare in general is an area not really touched a lot in video games especially in the Victorian era with your mighty ship of the lines and Spanish galleons and massive armadas of ships, but in this video today I’d like to spotlight a game that actually does it really well.
Ultimate Admiral: Age of Sail is a game set in the American War of Independence, that does Naval Warfare superbly and combines that with some epic land battles as well in a series of campaigns that in my honest opinion is quite tactical and so much fun. In today’s video I’ll be running through all the features of this brilliant game, why the naval aspect of is everything Total War naval battles should have been and why you definitely need to give it a try!
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good to see a review that acknowledges the fact that this game was made by darth behind darthmod :) too many reviews of this game simply say "oh this game is just a total war clone" well, it's made by a modder for empire so that kinda makes sense :D!
I personally like Ultimate Admiral: Age of Sail as its focuses on an era of history, not too many games do right. But let me tell you, boy can this game be a hard one! if you don't get the right upgrades and expand your fleet and number of marines then you quickly become screwed. Since this is more of a number of scenarios/missions, then you really need to manage your money and resources on getting the right upgrades/new ships at the right time.
I like ultimate admiral dreadnoughts somewhat more due to the fact that its campaign is more open and more like total war. And also just the fact that you can build and design huge ships of steel in that game makes it a joy to play. Looking forward to your thoughts on that game :)
Given that TW Engine 3 was designed with gunpowder in mind, it makes sense that naval battles worked in Empire and Napoleon because cannon salvos dominated the combat side. Come Rome II and Attila you have an era of combat that the Engine was not really designed for (ie boarding, ramming and what not, with a lot of features missing, like breaking rows etc). And since CA gave up with naval combat post Warhammer, it isn't really a surprise to beat CA in naval combat design 😆😁
didn't know the Darthmod guy was behind that game, cool info
YES. One of my favorite games is finally getting some Total War community love. Few things are more fun than tricking out your ships/crews and watching the fireworks.
Ive played pretty much all of the Ultimate games. I even have Dreadnaught even though its still not fully released. My only problem with this one is that the tutorials are garbage as far as the campaign goes and building up your fleet. That is something I just havent gotten the hang of because I am always broke. Probably on me as I havent played a ton of the game
If only it had a dynamic campaign and not set missions
Call MicroProse.
Yeah kinda wish it had a campaign map like Total War.
I feel like Darth and Co are probably working up to that with their games.
If only there was a pirate game like this that focused on naval battles, it would be perfect
There is one,it’s called naval action
No trading or have to become friends with the governors?
Just play the American campaign.
You’re mission is basically to steal anything that isn’t tied down.
@@orest395 yeah just do missions for silver,buy ships the part that I dislike is 1:I think every 3 or so month there’s a server wipe and you have restart and 2:grinding and there no longer being a peace server
Nice, too bad it’s on pc, one day
Trouble is AOS is not open world, it's one sequence of scenario's, no other route you can go, looking forward to The American War of Independence, is from what I have read a open world, looking forward to it.
Victorian era "“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
It is not the first video from this channel that I have heard that mistake made
Empire: Total War takes place in the 18th century, meaning before the Victorian era, one could call it the Georgian era, no, not after George Washington, but after three Hanoverian kings all called George. but really most people call it "the age of enlightenment" and the flowing era "the industrial age" instead of the Victorian era.
so to conclude the time period, with the massive ship of the line, and Spanish galleons IS NPOT THE ICTORIAN ERA.
I was going to comment this too
What we want in next generation total war: Naval battles like Ultimate Admira and Massive battles like Ultimate Epic Battle Simulator.
I have it in my Steam Library and already played and passed British Campaign. I have lots of books covering naval warfare in the age of sail and beyond. Unfortunately there is a gap on naval strategy games but I think game-labs did well with Age of Sail and Dreadnoughts. I was tempted to get Naval Action but the bad reviews put me off.
I played a lot of Naval Action from 2016-2019. The naval battles are top notch. What kills the game is the extremely time consuming grind for materials and mods for crafting, and the constant ganking from Players that seems to live their life inside the game.
I wish that they would create a DLC that’s set in the 1600s. I think it would give many more creative opportunities because pirates really ruled the waves in teh Caribbean at that point, less so in the late 1700s and early 1800s.
It's so annoying how games focus on fake random points in the era and never take time to study the RICH history of the Naval world.
The 17th century (1600-1699) to few who study it, is one of the most beautiful design eras by a mile. With what the 1700s excell in with the military Ship of the line era, the 1600s excell completely in the best dressed ship era. Designs from really any period from 1600 to 1699 are incredible, the Spanish Treasure ship fleet of the 1500s was a stunning fleet, but it sort of goes before the main pirate age and so I unfortunately and with great sadness, have to remove it from discussion. It would be 1630-1730 that definied the era of pillaging pirates and the power of the british that eventually swamped their culture and their ships. They better stay at sea because there would be 3 Man O' Wars waiting for them in any American, Caribbean, British, African, and Indian Harbor. Something funny about the mid 1700s with the HMS Victory, renowned hero ship of the Trafalgar battle of 1802, is that the HMS V was not the largest ship in many regards, but more importantly not large by comparison to much of any other large ship. Every Man O' War was around the same size and similar design thankfully (so to tell one apart; such as aftcastle differences and royal ornaments) and the differences in length was often a foot difference. The Swedish ship Vasa of 1628 is only a few inches shorter than the HMS Victory, and 20 feet narrower which makes perfect sense for the stronghold allure of design the back of ships had in the 17th century before broadening out. I'm not knocking the royal british crown, but If I were the King of Great Britian! I would 100, no, 200% decked out my 1st Rate of the line, SHIP of the line, feared by everyone across the seas. I would have made it just slightly broader, longer, and thrown some bright gold lining in-between the black and yellow signature stripes, along with ornamentation that refrences the Royal Throne because by god is it tacky looking today sitting in Portsmouth. Some big yellow front badge and a heavily understated aft castle back balcony. I want that head battery vessel decked out. It's almost a disgrace that the royal navy has gone WITH progress, from Chandeliers on water in the 1650s, to...utilitarian Bumblebees on blood water by the 1750s. I'm going to draw a redesign of the HMS Victory because it sort of makes me sad that THAT is meant to be the best, most impressive ship in the world.
Thanks for the great review Terminator. I love the age of sail and I played with the thought of buying Ultimate Admiral: Age of Sail for a long time now. Time to just dew it! :D
I hope Darth and his team will develop a similar game with a pirate/caribbean setting!
We got Modders making games now.
There new Rev. War game will be awesome too. Full campaign with supply line management
Oh hell yes!
That’s the problem with games designers designing games they normally would t be interested in. Best games are enthusiasts of the genre.
Except these guys made a living hell out of the aforementioned Naval Action...
Being a nit picker but the last three battles at 5:00 (Cape St Vincent, Nile, Trafalgar) are the French Revolutionary Wars (which at some point segued into the Napoleonic Wars) sometime after the American War of Independence ended. It was a hectic time :D
Good review though, thankyou - had been unaware of this game until now. Sinking Boney’s ships while Vivaldi hums out of speakers?? A reason to wear a bicorne?? I’ll get myself over to Steam :D
first ship I ever saw was the USS Silversides, and been hooked ever since... this looks like everything I been hunting for
They should have done this game the way they did dreadnoughts, or maybe that's their next project, I just want to customize my ships the way you can in dreadnoughts
If you’re naval warfare and have some money, buy the DLC. The only bad thing about it, is the length of the campaign, it’s fast. But overall it’s pretty fun, compared to the default scenario
Need a new global, empire total war game thats polished with focus of trade, resources and conquering.
I mean rome 2 engine has naval siege feature... if darth is to be recruited be CA for his passion in modding games. Empire 2 total war with this mix of ultimate age + total war would be a dream of many naval lovers
Ultimate General will be the staple of Strategy in the future and it will kick "Total Arcade war" to the curb.
Lil bro used ac rogue for the thumbnail and thought we wouldnt notice
This game is so good i'd pirated it then bought 2 copies 1 for me and 1 for my friend. It really needs a campaign map but this is definitely what Empire should have been!
Perfect timing if this game is on steam summer sale right now! I mite get it now.
They also made Ultimate admiral dreadnought that the campaign still being worked on
feel like I have been waiting my whole life for this game
I wonder if it's possible for a ship to be boarded from both sides in this game? It always bugged me how ETW wouldn't allow that
You can!
Plot twist: This is not AI but the will of your pc challenging you because your are overheating him
The Ultimate General and Ultimate Admiral games are made by the guy behind the Darth mods made for the TW games. I wish one day he'll make a proper competitor to TW that puts CA to shame
And then there is Naval Action by the same people...
Just based on the UI you can tell that it was heavily inspired by Empire Total War. 😂
Will there come a AOS 2 or new maps? Superb game, played it and loved it!
My personal list of issues with the naval part of this game (I won't get into land stuff):
- Ships go at outrageous speeds for the time (you can get a frigate to 18knts or a first rate to 12+)
- Maneuverability of ships is lacking, movement feels flimsy.
- Chain shot doesn't hurt masts and hardly damage sails, it's kinda useless really.
- Ships can turn even when demasted (which is really annoying).
- Ships sink even if they are grounded.
- Ballistics are totally unrealistic, round shot flies way too slow (like really slow, a gun of the period could fire round shots at 400m/s on an almost parallel trajectory).
- Lack of ships (just 1 first rates, 1 second rate and 2 third rates) for a period that had an immense amount of ships and designs around there, this could be easily fixed not by commissioning new models but by doing some minor modifications to the existing ones, renaming them and giving them different stats, get that seems to be too much for the devs.
- Nations use ships that aren't theirs, you can see Spain sailing Ardent's or France sailing Victory's or Britain sailing Bucentaure's!
- One thing that I find really outrageous is that the Bucentaure class 2nd rate is somehow called "Barfleur Class", like why?? The model is obviously Bucentaure, Barfleur was a TOTALLY different ship and calling the flagship of the French navy at Trafalgar like a BRITISH ship is just an insult, and I'm not even French.
- Ships carry wrong gun loadouts, French and Spanish ships should carry 36pd instead of 32pd, and those should be French or Spanish guns, not British.
- Ships should carry long guns instead of medium.
- You can repair sinking ships or totally demasted ships with the required modification.
- Ships sink too often while in real life they surrendered before that, also ships should be able to eat a lot more gunfire before sinking, rn it is set so battles last less and ships end up sinking more.
- Ships can sail backwards at more than 5knts.
- The wind varies unrealistically.
And there probably might be more issues but I have to go back to work 😅
That frigate might be hydroplaning... As for the turning complaint, they could be using the anchors, improvised oars or whatever - as long as they don't spin like a top.
I wonder if anyone managed to mod the modder's game yet :)
I need to try this game and ultimate general again I loved it but I never got hooked
Do we know if there will be any expansions??? I'd really like to play a French campaign...
after Ultimate Admiral: Age of Sail was done and out of early acces, Darth and his team asked on social media on what game they wanted next. If people wanted a game set in the american war of independence or a game set during the napolonic wars. The vote went for the american war of independence.
This means that currenly the dev team is more focused on making 2 new game (ultimate admiral: dreadnoughts being one thats currenly in early acess and very much woth playing and the second which is in pre-production with is the game about the American war of independence)
a expansion focused on the french would be cool, but i think that a game where you play as napoleon during his conquests are more likely after the game set in the American war of independence is done. But that would take a least 2-3 years.
The music in this video is just a distraction. Instead of showing the same screens over and over, for 1 second each, maybe linger on a screen and explain what’s going on. It would help me get an idea of whether or not I would like the game.
Fair enough, I’ll take this onboard :)
Where’s the content you said was coming?
“This video will be the first in a series featuring the Ultimate Admiral/General games” @ 7:30
There is no freedom in the game though, you have to go where it tells you in campaign, if you can move freely then yes....a perfect game
Age of sail: Total War but with ships
in one of youre other videos you said you were from london. do u mean like england or ontario?
I'm surprised they went for this time period, I really can't imagine the Americans boasting a campaign's worth of naval craft
i am glad that dreadnoughts doesnt look remotely similar to whatever this game is, even though they are both in the Ultimate Admiral series...
If only games like this, actually came to console, again.. bring back the RTS..
Even the land battles are better than TW to be honest.
I actually loved Rome 2/ Attila sea battles 😀
I would buy it if I could play as Spanish and not only as a pirate
Games breeding games thanks to the concept of Modding. is may be the best thing happening to Pc gaming
I m not patient enough for this gsme
Darth Vader himself…?
Think you're mixing up the American Revolutionary War and the Napoleonic War.
Termninator ii think its urgent to do a video about the mods that enkeli released for rome 2 and after i called him out he tried to befriend me and he still asks for donations, right now they are all of them on the most popular list and it pains me to see this weirdo take credit for other ppls work
I know mate I’ve been seeing it as well. Problem is if I make videos about them more people will know about them and use them
You won't touch summer sale topics?
What make a video on it? I’ve done sale videos and they’re a bit boring to make to be honest.
You can check out my Total War sale videos from the last year though about what I think is and isn’t worth it
@@TheTerminatorGaming i mean sale about game something that similar to TW, i would love to watch if you make a compilation of them
I’ll have a think :)
@@TheTerminatorGaming haha sorry for being needy, love your videos as always
If only this was on mac like Civil War :/
The game is not at all realistic or accurate, particularly the ships of this era almost never sank as much as in game but surrendered
Check out War of Rights
Is there a sequel in development?
Now you could say there is... Although, more like a Naval Action's sequel
I can’t buy game,, no have sand box
I don't know about you, but having played this game myself, its a mixed bag.
1. The tutorials SUCK and only teach you so much.
2. The Land battles aren't grate, can be frustrating and are very exploitable since its just a matter of SPOTTING the enemy then you can freely pound them with artillery from a distance, then it just comes down to NUMBERS and sometimes when i swear my troops should win a melee charge THEY DONT for some reason.
3. OK the Navel battles are definitely the best part of the game, but again their are things the game just doesn't tell you. Like i don't know, HOW TO BRAKE MASTS? Which the AI seems to do constantly while your ships don't even at point blank range with the most accurate cannons.
4. Your always going to pick more money and fame in the RPG character screen, you NEED money for everything and if you take a ton of casualties (land battles mostly or a bad navel engagement) you will quickly find your self running out of cash and then its like "WTF am i supposed to do now?"
Some of this I agree with, I personally liked the tutorials because it felt to me like it explained everything new Darth did while keeping many other things very similar to how its done in TW. Like how to break masts for eg
@@TheTerminatorGaming Huh, ill have to check that. Overall its a good game, but not perfect. 8 out of 10 sounds about right.
"age of sail is being developed by the creator of the DarthMod"
that means that after 30 minutes of battle, the game will freeze
anno 1800 bring more the battle, i hope they can invest more in this game to make it better
Not sure about the graphics though. Looks very cartoonish to me.
Would you rather play Age of Sail vs Naval Action and why? For me Single player is a big no no, games like these need pvp areas, sense of other players and able to influence the economy, period..
Bruh, you were SO historically inaccurate in this video
NTW and ETW still has the best naval combat. I can replay TW for thousands of hours and age of sail you just play once
Ok it seems cool and those naval battles look like quite better than Total War Empire and Napoleon's but it's clear that Age of Sail relies heavily in total war mechanics and it's a 2021 video game. It should take credit that Empire and Napoleon stands this day with far better land battles and almost as good naval ones, despite being 12 years older.
Nah naval battles in empire are way inferior
Check out naval action
volleys look poor
Napoleon's much much better and impressive
Is there multiplayer?
Yeah, but it's not about sailing or ships, it's about "battles". I'd rather be on a real schooner, working for the East Indy company, or maybe mastering a slaver with a cruel whip!
The game 'Naval Action' better option?
: D
In total war and in total war-like games I find naval battle to be an absolute snooze fest if creator of Ultimate Admiral: Age of Sail focused more on ground battle/campaign game would be way better, now they are focusing only on naval battle with new game, and popularity of their games is going down ( I wonder why ? )
How it should be, let us modders make the good stuff, leave that total woke alone now, can’t give in to corporate franchise much anymore, too much of a carrot and stick from the triple A games now
USA isn't 20 years old and they manage to put them on the game to make it "anglo-english" as always.
Considering this game shares the same devs that butchered 'naval action', i'm not touching this game at all.
Lame click bait